Ukrainian efforts to sabotage Trump backfire
By: By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN
Donald Trump wasn’t the only presidential candidate whose campaign was boosted by officials of a former Soviet bloc country.
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation found.
A Ukrainian-American operative who was consulting for the Democratic National Committee met with top officials in the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington in an effort to expose ties between Trump, top campaign aide Paul Manafort and Russia, according to people with direct knowledge of the situation.
The Ukrainian efforts had an impact in the race, helping to force Manafort’s resignation and advancing the narrative that Trump’s campaign was deeply connected to Ukraine’s foe to the east, Russia. But they were far less concerted or centrally directed than Russia’s alleged hacking and dissemination of Democratic emails.
Russia’s effort was personally directed by Russian President Vladimir Putin, involved the country’s military and foreign intelligence services, according to U.S. intelligence officials. They reportedly briefed Trump last week on the possibility that Russian operatives might have compromising information on the president-elect. And at a Senate hearing last week on the hacking, Director of National Intelligence James Clapper said “I don't think we've ever encountered a more aggressive or direct campaign to interfere in our election process than we've seen in this case.”
There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election. And President Petro Poroshenko’s administration, along with the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington, insists that Ukraine stayed neutral in the race.
Yet Politico’s investigation found evidence of Ukrainian government involvement in the race that appears to strain diplomatic protocol dictating that governments refrain from engaging in one another’s elections.
Russia’s meddling has sparked outrage from the American body politic. The U.S. intelligence community undertook the rare move of publicizing its findings on the matter, and President Barack Obama took several steps to officially retaliate, while members of Congress continue pushing for more investigations into the hacking and a harder line against Russia, which was already viewed in Washington as America’s leading foreign adversary.
Ukraine, on the other hand, has traditionally enjoyed strong relations with U.S. administrations. Its officials worry that could change under Trump, whose team has privately expressed sentiments ranging from ambivalence to deep skepticism about Poroshenko’s regime, while sounding unusually friendly notes about Putin’s regime.
Poroshenko is scrambling to alter that dynamic, recently signing a $50,000-a-month contract with a well-connected GOP-linked Washington lobbying firm to set up meetings with U.S. government officials “to strengthen U.S.-Ukrainian relations.”
Revelations about Ukraine’s anti-Trump efforts could further set back those efforts.
“Things seem to be going from bad to worse for Ukraine,” said David A. Merkel, a senior fellow at the Atlantic Council who helped oversee U.S. relations with Russia and Ukraine while working in George W. Bush’s State Department and National Security Council.
Merkel, who has served as an election observer in Ukrainian presidential elections dating back to 1993, noted there’s some irony in Ukraine and Russia taking opposite sides in the 2016 presidential race, given that past Ukrainian elections were widely viewed in Washington’s foreign policy community as proxy wars between the U.S. and Russia.
“Now, it seems that a U.S. election may have been seen as a surrogate battle by those in Kiev and Moscow,” Merkel said.
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The Ukrainian antipathy for Trump’s team — and alignment with Clinton’s — can be traced back to late 2013. That’s when the country’s president, Viktor Yanukovych, whom Manafort had been advising, abruptly backed out of a European Union pact linked to anti-corruption reforms. Instead, Yanukovych entered into a multibillion-dollar bailout agreement with Russia, sparking protests across Ukraine and prompting Yanukovych to flee the country to Russia under Putin’s protection.
In the ensuing crisis, Russian troops moved into the Ukrainian territory of Crimea, and Manafort dropped off the radar.
Manafort’s work for Yanukovych caught the attention of a veteran Democratic operative named Alexandra Chalupa, who had worked in the White House Office of Public Liaison during the Clinton administration. Chalupa went on to work as a staffer, then as a consultant, for Democratic National Committee. The DNC paid her $412,000 from 2004 to June 2016, according to Federal Election Commission records, though she also was paid by other clients during that time, including Democratic campaigns and the DNC’s arm for engaging expatriate Democrats around the world.
A daughter of Ukrainian immigrants who maintains strong ties to the Ukrainian-American diaspora and the U.S. Embassy in Ukraine, Chalupa, a lawyer by training, in 2014 was doing pro bono work for another client interested in the Ukrainian crisis and began researching Manafort’s role in Yanukovych’s rise, as well as his ties to the pro-Russian oligarchs who funded Yanukovych’s political party.
In an interview this month, Chalupa told Politico she had developed a network of sources in Kiev and Washington, including investigative journalists, government officials and private intelligence operatives. While her consulting work at the DNC this past election cycle centered on mobilizing ethnic communities — including Ukrainian-Americans — she said that, when Trump’s unlikely presidential campaign began surging in late 2015, she began focusing more on the research, and expanded it to include Trump’s ties to Russia, as well.
She occasionally shared her findings with officials from the DNC and Clinton’s campaign, Chalupa said. In January 2016 — months before Manafort had taken any role in Trump’s campaign — Chalupa told a senior DNC official that, when it came to Trump’s campaign, “I felt there was a Russia connection,” Chalupa recalled. “And that, if there was, that we can expect Paul Manafort to be involved in this election,” said Chalupa, who at the time also was warning leaders in the Ukrainian-American community that Manafort was “Putin’s political brain for manipulating U.S. foreign policy and elections.”
She said she shared her concern with Ukraine’s ambassador to the U.S., Valeriy Chaly, and one of his top aides, Oksana Shulyar, during a March 2016 meeting at the Ukrainian Embassy. According to someone briefed on the meeting, Chaly said that Manafort was very much on his radar, but that he wasn’t particularly concerned about the operative’s ties to Trump since he didn’t believe Trump stood much of a chance of winning the GOP nomination, let alone the presidency.
That was not an uncommon view at the time, and, perhaps as a result, Trump’s ties to Russia — let alone Manafort’s — were not the subject of much attention.
That all started to change just four days after Chalupa’s meeting at the embassy, when it was reported that Trump had in fact hired Manafort, suggesting that Chalupa may have been on to something. She quickly found herself in high demand. The day after Manafort’s hiring was revealed, she briefed the DNC’s communications staff on Manafort, Trump and their ties to Russia, according to an operative familiar with the situation.
A former DNC staffer described the exchange as an “informal conversation,” saying “‘briefing’ makes it sound way too formal,” and adding, “We were not directing or driving her work on this.” Yet, the former DNC staffer and the operative familiar with the situation agreed that with the DNC’s encouragement, Chalupa asked embassy staff to try to arrange an interview in which Poroshenko might discuss Manafort’s ties to Yanukovych.
While the embassy declined that request, officials there became “helpful” in Chalupa’s efforts, she said, explaining that she traded information and leads with them. “If I asked a question, they would provide guidance, or if there was someone I needed to follow up with.” But she stressed, “There were no documents given, nothing like that.”
Chalupa said the embassy also worked directly with reporters researching Trump, Manafort and Russia to point them in the right directions. She added, though, “they were being very protective and not speaking to the press as much as they should have. I think they were being careful because their situation was that they had to be very, very careful because they could not pick sides. It’s a political issue, and they didn’t want to get involved politically because they couldn’t.”
Shulyar vehemently denied working with reporters or with Chalupa on anything related to Trump or Manafort, explaining “we were stormed by many reporters to comment on this subject, but our clear and adamant position was not to give any comment [and] not to interfere into the campaign affairs.”
Both Shulyar and Chalupa said the purpose of their initial meeting was to organize a June reception at the embassy to promote Ukraine. According to the embassy’s website, the event highlighted female Ukrainian leaders, featuring speeches by Ukrainian parliamentarian Hanna Hopko, who discussed “Ukraine’s fight against the Russian aggression in Donbas,” and longtime Hillary Clinton confidante Melanne Verveer, who worked for Clinton in the State Department and was a vocal surrogate during the presidential campaign.
Shulyar said her work with Chalupa “didn’t involve the campaign,” and she specifically stressed that “We have never worked to research and disseminate damaging information about Donald Trump and Paul Manafort.”
But Andrii Telizhenko, who worked as a political officer in the Ukrainian Embassy under Shulyar, said she instructed him to help Chalupa research connections between Trump, Manafort and Russia. “Oksana said that if I had any information, or knew other people who did, then I should contact Chalupa,” recalled Telizhenko, who is now a political consultant in Kiev. “They were coordinating an investigation with the Hillary team on Paul Manafort with Alexandra Chalupa,” he said, adding “Oksana was keeping it all quiet,” but “the embassy worked very closely with” Chalupa.
In fact, sources familiar with the effort say that Shulyar specifically called Telizhenko into a meeting with Chalupa to provide an update on an American media outlet’s ongoing investigation into Manafort.
Telizhenko recalled that Chalupa told him and Shulyar that, “If we can get enough information on Paul [Manafort] or Trump’s involvement with Russia, she can get a hearing in Congress by September.”
Chalupa confirmed that, a week after Manafort’s hiring was announced, she discussed the possibility of a congressional investigation with a foreign policy legislative assistant in the office of Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-Ohio), who co-chairs the Congressional Ukrainian Caucus. But, Chalupa said, “It didn’t go anywhere.”
Asked about the effort, the Kaptur legislative assistant called it a “touchy subject” in an internal email to colleagues that was accidentally forwarded to Politico.
Kaptur’s office later emailed an official statement explaining that the lawmaker is backing a bill to create an independent commission to investigate “possible outside interference in our elections.” The office added “at this time, the evidence related to this matter points to Russia, but Congresswoman Kaptur is concerned with any evidence of foreign entities interfering in our elections.”
Almost as quickly as Chalupa’s efforts attracted the attention of the Ukrainian Embassy and Democrats, she also found herself the subject of some unwanted attention from overseas.
Within a few weeks of her initial meeting at the embassy with Shulyar and Chaly, Chalupa on April 20 received the first of what became a series of messages from the administrators of her private Yahoo email account, warning her that “state-sponsored actors” were trying to hack into her emails.
She kept up her crusade, appearing on a panel a week after the initial hacking message to discuss her research on Manafort with a group of Ukrainian investigative journalists gathered at the Library of Congress for a program sponsored by a U.S. congressional agency called the Open World Leadership Center.
Center spokeswoman Maura Shelden stressed that her group is nonpartisan and ensures “that our delegations hear from both sides of the aisle, receiving bipartisan information.” She said the Ukrainian journalists in subsequent days met with Republican officials in North Carolina and elsewhere. And she said that, before the Library of Congress event, “Open World’s program manager for Ukraine did contact Chalupa to advise her that Open World is a nonpartisan agency of the Congress.”
Chalupa, though, indicated in an email that was later hacked and released by WikiLeaks that the Open World Leadership Center “put me on the program to speak specifically about Paul Manafort.”
In the email, which was sent in early May to then-DNC communications director Luis Miranda, Chalupa noted that she had extended an invitation to the Library of Congress forum to veteran Washington investigative reporter Michael Isikoff. Two days before the event, he had published a story for Yahoo News revealing the unraveling of a $26 million deal between Manafort and a Russian oligarch related to a telecommunications venture in Ukraine. And Chalupa wrote in the email she’d been “working with for the past few weeks” with Isikoff “and connected him to the Ukrainians” at the event.
Isikoff, who accompanied Chalupa to a reception at the Ukrainian Embassy immediately after the Library of Congress event, declined to comment.
Chalupa further indicated in her hacked May email to the DNC that she had additional sensitive information about Manafort that she intended to share “offline” with Miranda and DNC research director Lauren Dillon, including “a big Trump component you and Lauren need to be aware of that will hit in next few weeks and something I’m working on you should be aware of.” Explaining that she didn’t feel comfortable sharing the intel over email, Chalupa attached a screenshot of a warning from Yahoo administrators about “state-sponsored” hacking on her account, explaining, “Since I started digging into Manafort these messages have been a daily occurrence on my yahoo account despite changing my password often.”
Dillon and Miranda declined to comment.
A DNC official stressed that Chalupa was a consultant paid to do outreach for the party’s political department, not a researcher. She undertook her investigations into Trump, Manafort and Russia on her own, and the party did not incorporate her findings in its dossiers on the subjects, the official said, stressing that the DNC had been building robust research books on Trump and his ties to Russia long before Chalupa began sounding alarms.
Nonetheless, Chalupa’s hacked email reportedly escalated concerns among top party officials, hardening their conclusion that Russia likely was behind the cyber intrusions with which the party was only then beginning to grapple.
Chalupa left the DNC after the Democratic convention in late July to focus fulltime on her research into Manafort, Trump and Russia. She said she provided off-the-record information and guidance to “a lot of journalists” working on stories related to Manafort and Trump’s Russia connections, despite what she described as escalating harassment.
About a month-and-a-half after Chalupa first started receiving hacking alerts, someone broke into her car outside the Northwest Washington home where she lives with her husband and three young daughters, she said. They “rampaged it, basically, but didn’t take anything valuable — left money, sunglasses, $1,200 worth of golf clubs,” she said, explaining she didn’t file a police report after that incident because she didn’t connect it to her research and the hacking.
But by the time a similar vehicle break-in occurred involving two family cars, she was convinced that it was a Russia-linked intimidation campaign. The police report on the latter break-in noted that “both vehicles were unlocked by an unknown person and the interior was ransacked, with papers and the garage openers scattered throughout the cars. Nothing was taken from the vehicles.”
Then, early in the morning on another day, a woman “wearing white flowers in her hair” tried to break into her family’s home at 1:30 a.m., Chalupa said. Shulyar told Chalupa that the mysterious incident bore some of the hallmarks of intimidation campaigns used against foreigners in Russia, according to Chalupa.
“This is something that they do to U.S. diplomats, they do it to Ukrainians. Like, this is how they operate. They break into people’s homes. They harass people. They’re theatrical about it,” Chalupa said. “They must have seen when I was writing to the DNC staff, outlining who Manafort was, pulling articles, saying why it was significant, and painting the bigger picture.”
In a Yahoo News story naming Chalupa as one of 16 “ordinary people” who “shaped the 2016 election,” Isikoff wrote that after Chalupa left the DNC, FBI agents investigating the hacking questioned her and examined her laptop and smartphone.
Chalupa this month told Politico that, as her research and role in the election started becoming more public, she began receiving death threats, along with continued alerts of state-sponsored hacking. But she said, “None of this has scared me off.”
While it’s not uncommon for outside operatives to serve as intermediaries between governments and reporters, one of the more damaging Russia-related stories for the Trump campaign — and certainly for Manafort — can be traced more directly to the Ukrainian government.
Documents released by an independent Ukrainian government agency — and publicized by a parliamentarian — appeared to show $12.7 million in cash payments that were earmarked for Manafort by the Russia-aligned party of the deposed former president, Yanukovych.
The New York Times, in the August story revealing the ledgers’ existence, reported that the payments earmarked for Manafort were “a focus” of an investigation by Ukrainian anti-corruption officials, while CNN reported days later that the FBI was pursuing an overlapping inquiry.
Clinton’s campaign seized on the story to advance Democrats’ argument that Trump’s campaign was closely linked to Russia. The ledger represented “more troubling connections between Donald Trump’s team and pro-Kremlin elements in Ukraine,” Robby Mook, Clinton’s campaign manager, said in a statement. He demanded that Trump “disclose campaign chair Paul Manafort’s and all other campaign employees’ and advisers’ ties to Russian or pro-Kremlin entities, including whether any of Trump’s employees or advisers are currently representing and or being paid by them.”
A former Ukrainian investigative journalist and current parliamentarian named Serhiy Leshchenko, who was elected in 2014 as part of Poroshenko’s party, held a news conference to highlight the ledgers, and to urge Ukrainian and American law enforcement to aggressively investigate Manafort.
“I believe and understand the basis of these payments are totally against the law — we have the proof from these books,” Leshchenko said during the news conference, which attracted international media coverage. “If Mr. Manafort denies any allegations, I think he has to be interrogated into this case and prove his position that he was not involved in any misconduct on the territory of Ukraine,” Leshchenko added.
Manafort denied receiving any off-books cash from Yanukovych’s Party of Regions, and said that he had never been contacted about the ledger by Ukrainian or American investigators, later telling POLITICO “I was just caught in the crossfire.”
According to a series of memos reportedly compiled for Trump’s opponents by a former British intelligence agent, Yanukovych, in a secret meeting with Putin on the day after the Times published its report, admitted that he had authorized “substantial kickback payments to Manafort.” But according to the report, which was published Tuesday by BuzzFeed but remains unverified. Yanukovych assured Putin “that there was no documentary trail left behind which could provide clear evidence of this” — an alleged statement that seemed to implicitly question the authenticity of the ledger.
The scrutiny around the ledgers — combined with that from other stories about his Ukraine work — proved too much, and he stepped down from the Trump campaign less than a week after the Times story.
At the time, Leshchenko suggested that his motivation was partly to undermine Trump. “For me, it was important to show not only the corruption aspect, but that he is [a] pro-Russian candidate who can break the geopolitical balance in the world,” Leshchenko told the Financial Times about two weeks after his news conference. The newspaper noted that Trump’s candidacy had spurred “Kiev’s wider political leadership to do something they would never have attempted before: intervene, however indirectly, in a U.S. election,” and the story quoted Leshchenko asserting that the majority of Ukraine’s politicians are “on Hillary Clinton’s side.”
But by this month, Leshchenko was seeking to recast his motivation, telling Politico, “I didn’t care who won the U.S. elections. This was a decision for the American voters to decide.” His goal in highlighting the ledgers, he said was “to raise these issues on a political level and emphasize the importance of the investigation.”
In a series of answers provided to Politico, a spokesman for Poroshenko distanced his administration from both Leshchenko’s efforts and those of the agency that reLeshchenko Leshchenko leased the ledgers, The National Anti-Corruption Bureau of Ukraine. It was created in 2014 as a condition for Ukraine to receive aid from the U.S. and the European Union, and it signed an evidence-sharing agreement with the FBI in late June — less than a month and a half before it released the ledgers.
The bureau is “fully independent,” the Poroshenko spokesman said, adding that when it came to the presidential administration there was “no targeted action against Manafort.” He added “as to Serhiy Leshchenko, he positions himself as a representative of internal opposition in the Bloc of Petro Poroshenko’s faction, despite [the fact that] he belongs to the faction,” the spokesman said, adding, “it was about him personally who pushed [the anti-corruption bureau] to proceed with investigation on Manafort.”
But an operative who has worked extensively in Ukraine, including as an adviser to Poroshenko, said it was highly unlikely that either Leshchenko or the anti-corruption bureau would have pushed the issue without at least tacit approval from Poroshenko or his closest allies.
“It was something that Poroshenko was probably aware of and could have stopped if he wanted to,” said the operative.
And, almost immediately after Trump’s stunning victory over Clinton, questions began mounting about the investigations into the ledgers — and the ledgers themselves.
An official with the anti-corruption bureau told a Ukrainian newspaper, “Mr. Manafort does not have a role in this case.”
And, while the anti-corruption bureau told Politico late last month that a “general investigation [is] still ongoing” of the ledger, it said Manafort is not a target of the investigation. “As he is not the Ukrainian citizen, [the anti-corruption bureau] by the law couldn’t investigate him personally,” the bureau said in a statement.
Some Poroshenko critics have gone further, suggesting that the bureau is backing away from investigating because the ledgers might have been doctored or even forged.
Valentyn Nalyvaichenko, a Ukrainian former diplomat who served as the country’s head of security under Poroshenko but is now affiliated with a leading opponent of Poroshenko, said it was fishy that “only one part of the black ledger appeared.” He asked, “Where is the handwriting analysis?” and said it was “crazy” to announce an investigation based on the ledgers. He met last month in Washington with Trump allies, and said, “of course they all recognize that our [anti-corruption bureau] intervened in the presidential campaign.”
And in an interview this week, Manafort, who re-emerged as an informal advisor to Trump after Election Day, suggested that the ledgers were inauthentic and called their publication “a politically motivated false attack on me. My role as a paid consultant was public. There was nothing off the books, but the way that this was presented tried to make it look shady.”
He added that he felt particularly wronged by efforts to cast his work in Ukraine as pro-Russian, arguing “all my efforts were focused on helping Ukraine move into Europe and the West.” He specifically cited his work on denuclearizing the country and on the European Union trade and political pact that Yanukovych spurned before fleeing to Russia. “In no case was I ever involved in anything that would be contrary to U.S. interests,” Manafort said.
Yet Russia seemed to come to the defense of Manafort and Trump last month, when a spokeswoman for Russia’s Foreign Ministry charged that the Ukrainian government used the ledgers as a political weapon.
“Ukraine seriously complicated the work of Trump’s election campaign headquarters by planting information according to which Paul Manafort, Trump’s campaign chairman, allegedly accepted money from Ukrainian oligarchs,” Maria Zakharova said at a news briefing, according to a transcript of her remarks posted on the Foreign Ministry’s website. “All of you have heard this remarkable story,” she told assembled reporters.
Beyond any efforts to sabotage Trump, Ukrainian officials didn’t exactly extend a hand of friendship to the GOP nominee during the campaign.
The ambassador, Chaly, penned an op-ed for The Hill, in which he chastised Trump for a confusing series of statements in which the GOP candidate at one point expressed a willingness to consider recognizing Russia’s annexation of the Ukrainian territory of Crimea as legitimate. The op-ed made some in the embassy uneasy, sources said.
“That was like too close for comfort, even for them,” said Chalupa. “That was something that was as risky as they were going to be.”
Former Ukrainian Prime Minister Arseny Yatseniuk warned on Facebook that Trump had “challenged the very values of the free world.”
Ukraine’s minister of internal affairs, Arsen Avakov, piled on, trashing Trump on Twitter in July as a “clown” and asserting that Trump is “an even bigger danger to the US than terrorism.”
Avakov, in a Facebook post, lashed out at Trump for his confusing Crimea comments, calling the assessment the “diagnosis of a dangerous misfit,” according to a translated screenshot featured in one media report, though he later deleted the post. He called Trump “dangerous for Ukraine and the US” and noted that Manafort worked with Yanukovych when the former Ukrainian leader “fled to Russia through Crimea. Where would Manafort lead Trump?”
The Trump-Ukraine relationship grew even more fraught in September with reports that the GOP nominee had snubbed Poroshenko on the sidelines of the United Nations General Assembly in New York, where the Ukrainian president tried to meet both major party candidates, but scored only a meeting with Clinton.
Telizhenko, the former embassy staffer, said that, during the primaries, Chaly, the country’s ambassador in Washington, had actually instructed the embassy not to reach out to Trump’s campaign, even as it was engaging with those of Clinton and Trump’s leading GOP rival, Ted Cruz.
“We had an order not to talk to the Trump team, because he was critical of Ukraine and the government and his critical position on Crimea and the conflict,” said Telizhenko. “I was yelled at when I proposed to talk to Trump,” he said, adding, “The ambassador said not to get involved — Hillary is going to win.”
This account was confirmed by Nalyvaichenko, the former diplomat and security chief now affiliated with a Poroshenko opponent, who said, “The Ukrainian authorities closed all doors and windows — this is from the Ukrainian side.” He called the strategy “bad and short-sighted.”
Andriy Artemenko, a Ukrainian parliamentarian associated with a conservative opposition party, did meet with Trump’s team during the campaign and said he personally offered to set up similar meetings for Chaly but was rebuffed.
“It was clear that they were supporting Hillary Clinton’s candidacy,” Artemenko said. “They did everything from organizing meetings with the Clinton team, to publicly supporting her, to criticizing Trump. … I think that they simply didn’t meet because they thought that Hillary would win.”
Shulyar rejected the characterizations that the embassy had a ban on interacting with Trump, instead explaining that it “had different diplomats assigned for dealing with different teams tailoring the content and messaging. So it was not an instruction to abstain from the engagement but rather an internal discipline for diplomats not to get involved into a field she or he was not assigned to, but where another colleague was involved.”
And she pointed out that Chaly traveled to the GOP convention in Cleveland in late July and met with members of Trump’s foreign policy team “to highlight the importance of Ukraine and the support of it by the U.S.”
Despite the outreach, Trump’s campaign in Cleveland gutted a proposed amendment to the Republican Party platform that called for the U.S. to provide “lethal defensive weapons” for Ukraine to defend itself against Russian incursion, backers of the measure charged.
The outreach ramped up after Trump’s victory. Shulyar pointed out that Poroshenko was among the first foreign leaders to call to congratulate Trump. And she said that, since Election Day, Chaly has met with close Trump allies, including Sens. Jeff Sessions, Trump’s nominee for attorney general, and Bob Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, while the ambassador accompanied Ivanna Klympush-Tsintsadze, Ukraine’s vice prime minister for European and Euro-Atlantic integration, to a round of Washington meetings with Rep. Tom Marino (R-Pa.), an early Trump backer, and Jim DeMint, president of The Heritage Foundation, which played a prominent role in Trump’s transition.
Many Ukrainian officials and operatives and their American allies see Trump’s inauguration this month as an existential threat to the country, made worse, they admit, by the dissemination of the secret ledger, the antagonistic social media posts and the perception that the embassy meddled against — or at least shut out — Trump.
“It’s really bad. The [Poroshenko] administration right now is trying to re-coordinate communications,” said Telizhenko, adding, “The Trump organization doesn’t want to talk to our administration at all.”
During Nalyvaichenko’s trip to Washington last month, he detected lingering ill will toward Ukraine from some, and lack of interest from others, he recalled. “Ukraine is not on the top of the list, not even the middle,” he said.
Poroshenko’s allies are scrambling to figure out how to build a relationship with Trump, who is known for harboring and prosecuting grudges for years.
A delegation of Ukrainian parliamentarians allied with Poroshenko last month traveled to Washington partly to try to make inroads with the Trump transition team, but they were unable to secure a meeting, according to a Washington foreign policy operative familiar with the trip. And operatives in Washington and Kiev say that after the election, Poroshenko met in Kiev with top executives from the Washington lobbying firm BGR — including Ed Rogers and Lester Munson — about how to navigate the Trump regime.
Weeks later, BGR reported to the Department of Justice that the government of Ukraine would pay the firm $50,000 a month to “provide strategic public relations and government affairs counsel,” including “outreach to U.S. government officials, non-government organizations, members of the media and other individuals.”
Firm spokesman Jeffrey Birnbaum suggested that “pro-Putin oligarchs” were already trying to sow doubts about BGR’s work with Poroshenko. While the firm maintains close relationships with GOP congressional leaders, several of its principals were dismissive or sharply critical of Trump during the GOP primary, which could limit their effectiveness lobbying the new administration.
The Poroshenko regime’s standing with Trump is considered so dire that the president’s allies after the election actually reached out to make amends with — and even seek assistance from — Manafort, according to two operatives familiar with Ukraine’s efforts to make inroads with Trump.
Meanwhile, Poroshenko’s rivals are seeking to capitalize on his dicey relationship with Trump’s team. Some are pressuring him to replace Chaly, a close ally of Poroshenko’s who is being blamed by critics in Kiev and Washington for implementing — if not engineering — the country’s anti-Trump efforts, according to Ukrainian and U.S. politicians and operatives interviewed for this story. They say that several potential Poroshenko opponents have been through Washington since the election seeking audiences of their own with Trump allies, though most have failed to do do so.
“None of the Ukrainians have any access to Trump — they are all desperate to get it, and are willing to pay big for it,” said one American consultant whose company recently met in Washington with Yuriy Boyko, a former vice prime minister under Yanukovych. Boyko, who like Yanukovych has a pro-Russian worldview, is considering a presidential campaign of his own, and his representatives offered “to pay a shit-ton of money” to get access to Trump and his inaugural events, according to the consultant.
The consultant turned down the work, explaining, “It sounded shady, and we don’t want to get in the middle of that kind of stuff.”
By KENNETH P. VOGEL and DAVID STERN 01/11/2017 05:05 AM EST
As you can see this vitally important piece was written in 2017. Republicans on the House Intelligence Committee used it as a point of reference when questioning State Department witnesses who seemed tone deaf as to why the President might want to find out what DNC operatives and Ukrainian officials were up to during the 2016 campaign.
I will leave it out for discussion for 24 hours before I file it away for the group.
As usual any provocative smearing of the President or his family will be deleted.
Accept that it's all pure bullshit.
"There’s little evidence of such a top-down effort by Ukraine. Longtime observers suggest that the rampant corruption, factionalism and economic struggles plaguing the country — not to mention its ongoing strife with Russia — would render it unable to pull off an ambitious covert interference campaign in another country’s election." - from the seeded article.
Way to go Republicans, falling for another Russian prank. But they weren't the smart one in the class anyway, so can we expect anything more from them? I think not. They simply need to be removed from their positions in the next election to let people with fully functional brains with no tin foil hats to run the country. We will be far better off than handing ourselves over to these delusional morons and religious conservatives who support them because they think them stupid enough to give in to their desired fantasy American theocracy.
Except it isn't. There is something, but of course the left wont acknowledge it.
Lmao the left has been screaming but Russia for three years and now it is Republicans that are falling for the Russian hoax.
You know this is going to get trashed by certain people. As an independent I support the investigation into President Trump but I also support the full investigation into all pieces of this. But when one side of the country has decided on a path before he even took the oath of office, it gets very old listening to the same old bitching. The partisan divide started several presidents ago and has only gotten worse, and as usual the country is the loser of the fight. Makes me glad that I will be retiring soon and will have the opportunity to be an ex-pat living somewhere else.
I know what to expect, but I need the unbiased observers to read the article and weigh the responses or lack thereof.
So everyone is against this 'president' who has done absolutely nothing wrong?
Progressives are not yet everyone.
We're the only ones who count.
So it would seem. Will the Whistleblower ever be allowed to testify?
Will Crooked donnie testify (one would think that he'd like to clear his "good" s/ name), or all the other people who are ignoring subpoenas?
He would have to be insane to testify in a partisan political process such as the one being run by Adam Schiff with no due process rights and an obvious will to impeach the President regardless of reason. As for the people ignoring subpoenas - the House Intelligence Committee needs only go to Court to settle the matter of executive privilege. They seem very unwilling to do that.
Excuse after excuse, that's all you've got.
And how about my question? Does the whistleblower testify?
Schiff controls how Republicans use their question time.
Schiff controls what gets released from his secret depositions.
Schiff shuts out witnesses who would contradict his one-sided narrative.
Because he is a pathological liar who is incapable of telling the truth, and who would perjure himself in the first minute.
No need.
For the indisputable reasons I have stated.
How about proving there was an impeachable offense or having the whistleblower testify?
Considering the attacks Trump is tweeting about him/her, I think it would be a bad idea. Talk about witness intimidation - Trump has that nailed down.
And it's really not necessary since all the other testimony and Trump's own transcripts are backing up everything the whistleblower said. Thank goodness not everyone in Trump's orbit is an unethical, lying, unpatriotic swamp toad who puts Trump above their country.
Maybe not now, but should the Senate have to hold a trial - HE WILL BE CALLED!
And he can just ignore the call, as Trump's toadies are doing. No reason to obey a Congressional subpoena according to Trump fans.
Will Trump be called as well?
Unfortunately, the WB doesn't have any executive privilege considerations. You can count on a Senate trial calling for the whistleblowers testimony. Something for Pelosi to consider.
Will Trump be called as well?
Only if necessary. It won't be up to Adam Schiff.
In your opinion, what would the whistleblower shed light on in terms of Trumps actions and behavior? Trump is being impeached for what HE did, and the whistleblowers information has been validated and added on to.
The Republicans want the whistleblower to appear so they can try and divert everyone's attention from Trump and his misdeeds.
There is no need to put this person's safety in jeopardy just so the right can cause a distraction.
There are no executive privilege considerations that justify Trump (the self proclaimed "most transparent person ever") telling his toadies not to testify - or those sycophants obeying him. Thank goodness not all of them are unpatriotic, as I mentioned earlier, so the truth is coming out and it's not pretty for Trump.
If it's OK for Trump's toadies to refuse to obey subpoenas, it's OK for everyone to do it. You can't have it both ways, and it's rather disappointing that you apparently think it should work that way.
Maybe. There are other questions that need to be answered. Both he and Schiff lied/withheld information about the whistleblower meeting with Schiff/his staff. I suspect the WB is well known to Schiff & the media and that they have known of him for a long time and that he has been a long time leaker. He is most likely from the NSC. We need to know more.
There is no need to put this person's safety in jeopardy just so the right can cause a distraction.
Actually, the claim of protecting his/her identity is the distraction!
He was intimidating that Ukranian ambassador while she was testifying.
He'd have the whistleblower taken care of like he did Epstein.
Like I said there is no need.
The whistleblower needs to be protected or else they'll wind up like Jeffrey Epstein.
P.S. I heard Anonymous was Barack Obama.
LOL!
FALSE
it's OK for everyone to do it. You can't have it both ways
I don't have it both ways. Eric Holder, the black supremacist stonewalled congress on the "Fast & Furious" scandal and was held in contempt and was later replaced by Obama as AG. Holder did it and I didn't hear from you then?
How did she know? And WTF is she doing checking her Twitter while in front of the committees?
So says Adam Schiff. He won't be making the call when it moves to the US Senate.
P.S. I heard Anonymous was Barack Obama.
Definitely somebody who shared his ideology
How dare the President recall her!!!!
We're the ones speaking Truth to Power.
That's not what/how it happened.
When was the last time progressives did that? Would it be in their early days? When they rioted at the DNC convention in Chicago and staged riots and spat on American soldiers coming home from Vietnam? No, progressives have never spoken truth.
Did Trump engage in ‘witness intimidation in real time’?
As a rule, I’m sympathetic to those who argue that Donald Trump’s tweets rarely constitute actual, legitimate news. There are, however, exceptions.
This morning, for example, former U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Marie Yovanovitch, who was ousted as part of Team Trump’s political scheme, testified publicly as part of the impeachment hearings on Capitol Hill. During her appearance, the president thought it’d be a good idea to publish a tweet, smearing her career in public service.
“Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad,” Trump wrote . “She started off in Somalia, how did that go? Then fast forward to Ukraine, where the new Ukrainian President spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors.”
House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) told the former ambassador about Trump’s missive and offered her a chance to respond.
Schiff wasted little time in shining a light on the obvious, asking Yovanovitch about the effects of Trump’s attacks on other witnesses and their willingness to come forward and expose wrongdoing. “Well, it’s very intimidating,” she replied.
The committee chairman added, “Well, I want to let you know, ambassador, that some of us here take witness intimidation very, very seriously.”
During a break in the proceedings, Schiff stopped to briefly speak with reporters.
It’s almost as if Trump wanted to add an article of impeachment against himself.
Though I didn’t see this myself, none other than Ken Starr reportedly appeared on Fox News soon after, and told viewers , “The president was not advised by counsel in deciding to do this tweet. Extraordinarily poor judgment…. Obviously this was quite injurious.”
Is it your posit that the Senate will conduct an investigation inquiry of their own? Wouldn't that shut down their BS about Trump didn't do anything wrong?
Rachel Maddow's toady aside, why did Schiff think it necessary to bring the comments to light in a Congressional inquiry? Seems he was the intimidator in this case.
To point out that Trump was trying to intimidate witnesses, duh.
Nope, tRump was the witness intimidator extraordinaire.
She wouldn't have known had he not brought it to the forefront and only after she left if then. Schiff was complacent plain and simple.
Phhhfft.
She wasn't intimidated in the least.
Well then Trump is more than welcome to assert it, he hasn't, has he Vic?
Over 7000 documents were released by Holder. Trump 0, DOJ 0, State 0, OMB 0.
False equivalency much?
That's your excuse for everything Trump does - that since he's too incompetent to succeed, it doesn't count? You really don't give a flying fuck that the President of the United States attempted to intimidate a witness who was testifying to Congress?
The GOP apparently is the party of anti-patriots these days. Fuck the country, just suck up to Trump all day. Pathetic.
Devolving to whataboutism. Priceless.
"He was intimidating that Ukranian ambassador while she was testifying"
Was she testifying or surfing the net? If she was testifying there is no way she could have been intimidated. If she was surfing the net, she was shirking her responsibilities as a witness.
Epstein looks more like a Clinton job to me. More their style.
Nope.
While she was testifying? How does that work? Did she have a Twitter feed going in front of her while she was speaking?
So Adam Schiff is the one intimidating a witness.
That is a completely false statement.
Oh, FFS.
Was the lady reading fucking tweets or testifying? Please don't insult my intelligence by pretending she was intimidated be a fucking tweet. That is ludicrous.
Yet another false statement. Keep whining because a GOPer is in the WH. I can take it--after all, it has been 3+ years and many are STILL fucking whining. Bunch of piss-poor losers still mad that their beloved Abuela blew a sure thing.
Where is the part in this opus that talks about Crowdstrike and the DNC server?
Oh, it's not in there because it never happened.
Trump's propaganda lie is that Russia didnt meddle in the 2016 election , but Ukraine did. There is not a single word in this article that supports THAT theory.
An American journalist discovered Paul Manafort's corruption and over time a few Ukrainians told her where to look for more information. This is being extrapolated by the bamboozlers into a "plot" against Trump during the campaign.
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That seems to be your strawman argument. The article only deals with the Ukraine's involvement in the 2016 election. Does that frighten you?
An American journalist discovered Paul Manafort's corruption and over time a few Ukrainians told her where to look for more information. This is being extrapolated by the bamboozlers into a "plot" against Trump during the campaign.
How did she "discover" Manafort's corruption? A few Ukrainians told her where to look? Tell us why? What about the DNC?
Strawman? It only deals with Ukraine? Your seed cites Russia 46 times Vic.
I find it utterly obtuse that the go to deflection has become 'But how did it all start and who exposed the corruption?'.
There is not a single word that supports that story
Try again:
Ukrainian government officials tried to help Hillary Clinton and undermine Trump by publicly questioning his fitness for office. They also disseminated documents implicating a top Trump aide in corruption and suggested they were investigating the matter, only to back away after the election. And they helped Clinton’s allies research damaging information on Trump and his advisers, a Politico investigation foun
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In other words the standard of progressives is to spread the Russiagate hoax without evidence and ignore the origins of both the Russia hoax and the Ukrainian involvement in the 2016 election?
The origins of the Russia investigation were Trump flunky George Papadopolous getting drunk in a bar and telling someone that Russia had hacked Clinton.
Astonishing how a seemingly intelligent man could continue calling it a hoax despite all the indictments and guilty pleas and such - including what just happened to Roger Stone - isn't it? And the Ukraine conspiracy theory has been debunked.
Denial is a powerful defense mechanism; it apparently makes its sufferers avoid any factual sources that would burst their bubble.
You mean Papadopolous being fed info from one CIA operative as another CIA operative appeared requesting the same info? Isn't that the way it's beginning to appear?
EXACTLY!
Don't you mean the oranges (tRump speak) of the investigation?
How many of those guilty pleas had anything to do with the Russia probe? As for the always boasting Stone - Do you really think he would have ever have been hauled into court if he had nothing to do with Trump? Would Manafort have been prosecuted as Public Enemy #1 for various personal issues if he wasn't briefly Trump's campaign manager? Let's call it what it is - an act of vengeance via the hate-filled progressives who had the power to do it!
If Stone only had a few more days he might even have claimed to have been on the grassy knoll on that fateful day in 1963!
Nope, it's called Truth to Power.
Everyone in this 'president's administration is complicit/guilty as hell.
Is that today's theme? I thought the focus group spelled out bribery. You are using the wrong phrase.
Let's call it what it is - some people with actual integrity doing their job to expose traitors and foreign interference in our elections, as opposed to Trump's toadies who put him above their country.
Your deep state conspiracy theories are destroying your ability to discern actual facts, unless they support your whacky theories. The conspiracy theorists show us every day that all the facts in the world won't change their minds ... just what Steve Bannon wanted. You'd make him proud.
Every single one of them.
You and your fellow travelers harp on the 'oranges' of the Russia probe. Well the 'oranges' of ALL of the guilty pleas was the fact that they were interviewed during the Russia probe and they LIED and/or their own crimes were uncovered.
I'm sure Trump and his cronies are proud of you. If anyone who's expected to lie to keep Trump out of trouble actually tells the truth, y'all turn on them like an animal eating its own children. No, I barely knew that man, even though I hired him and praised him.
Disgusting and anti-American.
It's been non-stop for three years. First it was recounts & attempts to change electoral votes, riots in Washington DC, then a fraudulent investigation and another and now impeachment based upon an inappropriate request for looking at those who attempted to defeat Trump's election. It's become an obsession....
"Then tossing both arms, with measureless imprecations he shouted out: "Aye, aye! and I’ll chase him round Good Hope, and round the Horn, and round the Norway Maelstrom, and round perdition’s flames before I give him up. And this is what ye have shipped for, men! to chase that white whale on both sides of land, and over all sides of earth, till he spouts black blood and rolls fin out. What say ye, men, will ye splice hands on it, now?"
I don't recall recounts and riots.
Michigan - recounts.
The Michigan recount was demanded by Flynn's fellow traveler, Jill Stein.
Don't care. It was a recount and that's what "wasn't remembered".
Fiona Hill deposition:
The only thing sabotaging Trump is Trump himself. The man is a paranoid, devoid of soul, responsibility and patriotism.
The only matter with Ukraine is corruption by the Russian oligarchs of which Manafort was the American point man. Follow the money. That is the only thing this is about.
Who is at the top in Ukraine? The lack of credible evidence of a state sponsored effort to meddle in the 2016 election is based upon an assumption that the power structure in Ukraine is controlled by the government. However, the strident demands for the Ukrainian government to be more aggressive toward investigating corruption suggests that the government is not at the top. The power structure in Ukraine is controlled by non-state entities. Joe Biden's quid pro quo demand provides clear evidence that the Ukrainian government is not at the top of the power structure.
Keep in mind that attempts to meddle by coordinating with the DNC will not be as transparent as attempting to work directly with a candidate's campaign. Financial filing requirements are different for party organizations than for candidates. And party organizations are less restricted in their activities than are candidates. That's why Hillary Clinton expended so much effort and money to obtain control over the party organization shortly after announcing her candidacy. The DNC isn't as constrained in it's engagement with private entities; even foreign oligarchs.
Focusing attention on Poroshenko is a smoke-and-mirrors distraction. The Poroshenko regime did not exert control over the oligarchs who control the real power in Ukraine. That's why Biden demanded removal of Viktor Shokin. There may not be evidence of a state sponsored effort to meddle in the election but that does not mean that Ukrainian oligarchs didn't meddle in the election. There's more to the story than is being told.
If you're unwilling to review what has occurred between 2014 and 2019 in Ukraine, I would be wasting my time replying.
Would that be a review of the pop media version of events? The pop media version of events is tainted by ideological propaganda promoting democracy through military confrontation.
The reality is that the West seized the opportunity presented by a populist protest to deliberately engage in destabilizing Ukraine and attempting to establish a puppet government. Russia responded in the only rational manner by annexing Crimea; Russia is not going to give up its naval bases on the Black Sea. The result has been a divided Ukraine fighting a quasi civil war. Ukrainian separatists are fighting for autonomy from Kiev just the Kurds have fought for autonomy. The United States is trying to do to Ukraine what Turkey is doing to Syria.
Could it also have been at the request of Biden's "friends" above to get Shokin away from all their kids???
Sorry - but what they have done is impeachable and they should all be replaced. Using your "Power" in the U.S.Fed government to get your kid a job paying $50K a MONTH????? Hell, what's her faces lil' darhlin' Chelsea only made $900K a year to run the "family" business.
You know that Kerry and Biden are no longer elected officials right?
Oh and you might want to review that Constitution thingy. Since Pelosi and Romney are in Congress, they CAN'T be impeached.
Now, tell me how it's all good that Trump and his children are shoveling money into their coffers...can we impeach Jared?
what difference does that make?