Why Would Putin Need Trump? He Already Has Democrats on His Side

  
Via:  Heartland American  •  2 weeks ago  •  24 comments

By:   Bernard Kerik

Why Would Putin Need Trump? He Already Has Democrats on His Side
Vladimir Putin couldn’t hope for a better ally than the Democrat Party — obsessed with impeachment, the Democrats have done more to undermine our democracy than the Kremlin ever could.

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It is the democrats that Putin is using to disrupt American democracy and cause discord here.  Democrats, not Trump are the party of dictatorship.  


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Vladimir Putin couldn’t hope for a better ally than the Democrat Party — obsessed with impeachment, the Democrats have done more to undermine our democracy than the Kremlin ever could.

For the past three years, Donald Trump’s political opponents have made it their primary mission to overturn the result of the 2016 election, vowing to remove the president from office “ by any means necessary .”

Their crusade started with a lengthy investigation into the Trump Campaign that sought to uncover evidence of “collusion” between Donald Trump’s aides and Russian officials. The Democrats were certain that their team of biased investigators led by Special Counsel Robert Mueller would give them the ammunition they needed to impeach the president — and, as an added bonus, galvanize public hostility toward Russia in the process.

But after two years,  more than  2,800 subpoenas, nearly 500 search warrants, and 500 witness interviews, Mueller’s long-awaited “bombshell” was that there  wasn’t  any collusion with Russia.

The Democrats were crestfallen, but they soon came up with another plan. This time, they would use an alleged  partisan operative  posing as a concerned “whistleblower” to accuse President Trump of colluding with another Eastern European country, Ukraine, despite the fact that they had even less evidence to substantiate this outrageous claim than they did for the Russiagate hoax.

Make no mistake, the ongoing impeachment inquisition is taking a severe toll on our democratic institutions. By weaponizing and politicizing impeachment, the Democrat Party has turned a grave constitutional process into a partisan game that threatens to permanently divide the entire country.

To make matters worse, some Democrats are now  waging war  against the Electoral College, seeking to delegitimize that sacred constitutional process because they think it will benefit their party politically.

Former National Security Council staffer Fiona Hill — whom the Democrats expected to be a star witness during a recent impeachment hearing — even  admitted  that Hillary Clinton’s repeated criticism of the Electoral College helps Russia spread disinformation about the U.S.

When asked if Clinton’s remarks about the 2016 election “play into [Putin’s] narrative ... that our elections are somehow rigged and shouldn’t be trusted,” Hill replied with a resounding “yes.”

Of course, every Russia expert knows that our longtime rival has consistently sought to undermine the U.S. government and interfere with our elections throughout the past century. Putin has routinely criticized American elections for both propaganda purposes and diplomatic leverage, arguing that the U.S. is not a genuinely democratic country. “There is no true democracy there,” he  said  in 2014, using the Electoral College to underscore his point.

The one thing that neither Putin nor the Democrats ever acknowledge, though, is that the Electoral College actually makes it harder for foreign governments to influence U.S. elections. As President Trump likes to  point out , it’s much easier to compete for a simple majority of the nationwide vote than to craft — and effectively communicate — a message that appeals to enough people in enough places to deliver an Electoral College victory.

To the mountains of evidence debunking the left’s conspiracy theories about President Trump’s non-existent link with Russia, add one more: the Kremlin has a far more reliable ally in Washington. Putin doesn't need any more help undermining our democracy — the Democrat Party is already doing a better job of that than Russian internet trolls ever could.

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Heartland American
1  seeder  Heartland American    2 weeks ago
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Prominent Democratic presidential hopefuls universally accuse President Donald Trump of ruling like a dictator. They then promise that if elected, they themselves will govern in the same manner.

Irony and self-awareness are apparently dead in the Democratic Party.

Sen. Bernie Sanders, D-Vt., who identifies himself as a democratic socialist, accused the Trump administration of exhibiting  signs of "totalitarianism " after the president was in office less than a month — and after nearly three years Sanders’ opinion hasn’t changed.

Yet on Tuesday he wrote Major League Baseball commissioner Robert Manfred, blasting the league’s decision to cut 42 minor league teams for various reasons.

"Let’s be clear. Your proposal to slash the number of minor league teams has nothing to do with what is good for baseball, but it has everything to do with greed,"  he wrote .

Sanders, an apparent authority on "what is good for baseball," also denounced the income disparity between minor and major league players.

"While Minor League Baseball players make as little as $1,160 a month . . .  and are denied overtime pay, the 20 wealthiest Major League Baseball owners have a combined net worth of more than $50 billion," Sanders, who also wants to tax the wealth of America’s wealthiest families, continued.

As Twitchy editor/writer  Greg Pollowitz put it , "That’s a nice league you got there. It would really be a shame if something happened to it."

Similarly, Sen. Elizabeth Warren, D-Mass., claimed Trump  " sounded like some two-bit dictator "  when he’d accepted the Republican Party’s presidential nomination in July 2016.

Like Sanders, she still harbors that view.

Yet Warren proposes that the federal government take over every American’s healthcare decision with her Medicare for All proposal, and completely rewire and control the U.S. economy with the Green New Deal.

In late September, Sen. Kamala Harris, D-Calif., called for the president’s removal for being dictatorial.

"Trump's no better than any other dictator when it comes to using the resources of the people, and in the name of the people, for self-aggrandizement and for personal benefit,"  the 2020 presidential hopeful tweeted .

"He's gotta go."

But talk about being dictatorial. Late last week  Harris told a group of supporters that she would use a presidential decree if necessary to lower prescription drug prices, and if pharmaceuticals refused to comply, "I will snatch their patent so we can take over."

When an audience member asked "can we do that?" Harris replied, "Yes, we can do that! We just need the will to do that."

At the September ABC-Univision Democratic presidential debate, moderator Jorge Ramos asked Sanders how his brand of socialism differed from that of Venezuelan dictator Nicolas Maduro, who also identifies as a socialist.

"You admit that Venezuela does not have free elections, but still, you refuse to call Nicolás Maduro a dictator,"  Ramos said . "Can you explain why? And what are the main differences between your kind of socialism and the one being imposed in Venezuela, Cuba, and Nicaragua?" Ramos asked. 

Sanders rejected any notion that there was a similarity and said that "anybody who does what Maduro does is a vicious tyrant."

He added, "To equate what goes on in Venezuela to what I believe is extremely unfair."

Sanders never really answered the question, preferring to dance around it.

But it was actually a fair question, and one that should be asked of Sanders and all major Democratic presidential candidates who swing too far to the left.

Socialism is about who controls the assets, the means of production and the industries in a given economy.

It’s allowing a central government to determine how, where, when, and even if you’re going to be treated for a given ailment.

It’s telling you that if you’re someone’s idea of being too successful, a central government has the power to remove a chunk of your wealth and give it to someone more "worthy."

It’s dictating how a professional sports league will conduct its business, who it drafts, how much it will pay.

It’s allowing a central authority to tell you how you’ll consume energy, what kind and how many vehicles you may own, how to build your home, and where to set your thermostat.

It’s telling private drug companies that if they don’t sell their product at the price the government sets, they’ll take away their patents.

It’s telling hunters, sport shooters and anyone who wants to protect his home, his life, and the lives of his family, what kind of weapon he can use and what capacity magazine he can insert in his firearm. If he exceeds those parameters, the government may confiscate his weapons against his will.

But no, comparing Sanders and others to Maduro would be "unfair."

Trump’s the real dictator, and don’t you forget it. Just ask them.   https://www.newsmax.com/michaeldorstewitz/baseball-manfred-maduro/2019/11/27/id/943665/

 
 
 
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Heartland American
2.5  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  bbl-1 @2    one week ago

To the mountains of evidence debunking the left’s conspiracy theories about President Trump’s non-existent link with Russia, add one more: the Kremlin has a far more reliable ally in Washington. Putin doesn't need any more help undermining our democracy — the Democrat Party is already doing a better job of that than Russian internet trolls ever could. https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/7305/why-would-putin-need-trump-he-already-has-democrats-on-his-side?g=73

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.5.1  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Heartland American @2.5    one week ago

This is something that so obvious that it hurts.  The description and the seeds of discord that were sewn by the Russians and Ukrainians in the last election was precisely their objective and those folks couldn’t have thought of a better scenario in 1 million years, this whole impeachment circus has become a freaking Putin wet dream. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
3  seeder  Heartland American    2 weeks ago

Make no mistake, the ongoing impeachment inquisition is taking a severe toll on our democratic institutions. By weaponizing and politicizing impeachment, the Democrat Party has turned a grave constitutional process into a partisan game that threatens to permanently divide the entire country.

To make matters worse, some Democrats are now   waging war   against the Electoral College, seeking to delegitimize that sacred constitutional process because they think it will benefit their party politically.

Former National Security Council staffer Fiona Hill — whom the Democrats expected to be a star witness during a recent impeachment hearing — even  admitted   that Hillary Clinton’s repeated criticism of the Electoral College helps Russia spread disinformation about the U.S.

When asked if Clinton’s remarks about the 2016 election “play into [Putin’s] narrative ... that our elections are somehow rigged and shouldn’t be trusted,” Hill replied with a resounding “yes.”

Of course, every Russia expert knows that our longtime rival has consistently sought to undermine the U.S. government and interfere with our elections throughout the past century. Putin has routinely criticized American elections for both propaganda purposes and diplomatic leverage, arguing that the U.S. is not a genuinely democratic country. “There is no true democracy there,” he   said   in 2014, using the Electoral College to underscore his point.

The one thing that neither Putin nor the Democrats ever acknowledge, though, is that the Electoral College actually makes it harder for foreign governments to influence U.S. elections. As President Trump likes to   point out  , it’s much easier to compete for a simple majority of the nationwide vote than to craft — and effectively communicate — a message that appeals to enough people in enough places to deliver an Electoral College victory.   https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/7305/why-would-putin-need-trump-he-already-has-democrats-on-his-side#cm1210031

 
 
 
Heartland American
4  seeder  Heartland American    2 weeks ago

Prominent Democratic presidential hopefuls universally accuse President Donald Trump of ruling like a dictator. They then promise that if elected, they themselves will govern in the same manner.

Irony and self-awareness are apparently dead in the Democratic Party.   https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/7305/why-would-putin-need-trump-he-already-has-democrats-on-his-side#cm1210031

 
 
 
arkpdx
5  arkpdx    one week ago

I think you may have struck a nerve!  

That is what happens when you seed/publish the truth!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  arkpdx @5    one week ago
I think you may have struck a nerve!  

Why? Because no one else is commenting on this monumentally moronic seed and equally idiotic premise? I can only assume most people saw through it like the cheap right wing tin foil hat conspiracy theory fantasy trash that it is.

I'm sure most Republicans would also look back at their impeachment of President Clinton and say "Yeah, I guess we were damaging our political institutions by weaponizing and politicizing impeachment...". Of course not! They were cheering impeachment on for the President who would dare lie about consensual sex!

Now we have a President caught holding back hundreds of millions of congressionally approved military aid and a white house meeting from a foreign ally on the condition that they publicly announce their own investigation into one of President Trumps political rivals and claim they were opening an investigation into the already debunked conspiracy theory of some Ukrainian government involvement in the 2016 election hacking.

"You don’t even have to be convicted of a crime to lose your job in this constitutional republic if this body determines that your conduct as a public official is clearly out of bounds in your role. Impeachment is not about punishment. Impeachment is about cleansing the office. Impeachment is about restoring honor and integrity to the office." - Senator Lindsey Graham January 1999

Preach Lindsey, preach! But will Republicans listen? Of course not. Not even Lindsey will take his own advice. Trump has clearly debased the honor and integrity of the office of President. He lies hourly, he cozies up with foreign enemies and despots, saying he and Kim Jon Un "fell in love", believes a Russian authoritarian who assassinates dissenters, defectors, political opponents over our own intelligence services, unilaterally withdrew leaving our Kurdish allies to die by the thousands in the inevitable Turkish invasion all after one phone call with Erdogan. Trump has disrespected gold star families, been accused of sexual assault by more than two dozen different women, is the known "unindicted co-conspirator in a campaign finance fraud case where his co-conspirator is already serving time, has had dozens of people around him from his campaign and onward who have plead guilty, been convicted or indicted of lying to investigators about their ties to Russian operatives, Putin himself said he directed Russian assets to help Trump win in 2016, it's not even in doubt anymore by anyone with a functioning brain.

“President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?” - reporter Jeff Mason

Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.” - Vladimir Putin

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.1  arkpdx  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1    one week ago

More proof I was right. Thanks!

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  arkpdx @5    one week ago

The truth is anathema to democrats.  

 
 
 
katrix
5.2.1  katrix  replied to  Heartland American @5.2    one week ago
The truth is anathema to democrats.  

Says the guy who just posted something about how we should be nice to each other starting this month, and yet who does nothing but slam Democrats and seed lies.

Someone who tries to convince everyone that humans have only been around for 6000 years and seeds every conspiracy theory Fox promotes probably shouldn't be whining about others' truthfulness.

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.2.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  katrix @5.2.1    one week ago

So when were you all planning to be nice to Trump and his supporters?  

 
 
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