Stark Raving Madness

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  4 months ago  •  159 comments


Stark Raving Madness
Speaker Pelosi: "An impeachment is not a pleasant experience. It can be divisive. We don't take any glee in this at all." Also Pelosi—hours later: "It's pretty exciting to have the role, to be here at this time.

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Don't be surprised by the possible accusations as the House holds a key hearing Monday. The House Judiciary Committee report released Saturday hints throughout that President Trump might have committed treason against the United States. The report outlines the dems case against the President. Thus far every attempt to take down this President has failed and now they shoot wildly, making more outrageous & unproven claims. 

Now it seems that the radicals running the House Judiciary Committee intend to falsely accuse the President of the ultimate crime. Maybe this is why we've been hearing all these leftist tools talking of "Putin." To just make a random hateful accusation is beyond the pale. Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler and the anti-American squad should all be censured. 

The House Judiciary Committee report redefines "treason" to include what it calls “betrayal,” and declares: “Although the Framers did not intend impeachment for good faith disagreements on matters of diplomacy, they were explicit that betrayal of the Nation through schemes with foreign powers justified that remedy.”

In other words they are telling us that a quid pro quo with the Ukraine = treason.

Of course normal human beings don't believe that, but hate-filled progressives will keep repeating it until we are all totally repulsed by them. We will find out more tomorrow as Jerry Nadler deliberately scheduled the proceedings dealing with the so called "evidence for impeachment" to conflict with the Justice Department's IG Report, which is being released tomorrow. Nadler & Pelosi are crafty that way. Let's not forget that only last week we witnessed Adam Schiff s ubpoena & release the call records of attorneys, Congressmen & journalists.

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In the meantime public opinion is starting to turn against them:

An Emerson poll released two weeks ago found support for impeachment has dropped from 48% to 43% since October, while opposition to impeachment has risen from 44% to 45%.

Independents stand out in the shift, with 49% opposing impeachment and only 34% supporting impeachment. In October, 48% of independents supported impeachment and 39% opposed.

https://emersonpolling.reportablenews.com/pr/november-national-poll-support-for-impeachment-declines-biden-and-sanders-lead-democratic-primary




And then there is this:


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Today CNN host Dana Bash, in a rare moment of acting like a journalist, put Chairman Nadler on the spot and Nadler showed even CNN's dwindling followers what he's made of:

Bash: “I want you to listen to something you said during the impeachment of Bill Clinton in 1998.”

“They must never be a narrowly voted impeachment or an impeachment substantially supported by one of our major political parties and largely opposed by the other. Such an impeachment would lack legitimacy and produce divisiveness and bitterness in our politics for years to come,” Nadler said in the 1998 clip.

Bash: “So right now you’re moving forward against impeachment without support from one Congressional Republican. Is it fair to say that this impeachment, in your words back then, will provide divisiveness and bitterness for years to come?”

Nadler: “No, I think that what puts bitterness and divisiveness into our politics is the conduct of the president who questions the patriotism of people who don’t agree with him, who calls political opponents human scum, who talks about the fake press, who derides the judiciary, who attacks all of our Democratic institutions”

Bash: “So you are willing to impeach the president with no Republican votes, correct?”

Nadler: “We’re going to impeach the president".... “If we impeach the president, we’ll impeach him on adequate and urgent grounds to defend our Democratic Republic.”

Bash: “And if there are no Republican votes — so be it?”

Nadler: “It is up to them if they want to be patriots or partisans"

Beyond the hypocrisy note the slip of the tongue where Nadler says we are going to impeach then in the next breathe corrects himself with "if we impeach".   These are disgusting human beings who have no business serving in congress. Let's see to it that they are voted out in 2020.


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Vic Eldred
1  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

IG Report tomorrow.....That's the real story 

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House madness will only be background noise.



Rules of civility are in effect

 
 
 
Ender
1.1  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago

Which they are already saying is going to be nothing.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @1.1    4 months ago
Which they are already saying is going to be nothing.

"They" being those who's lawyers had the right of review and who have been leaking everything to the media?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @1.1    4 months ago
Which they are already saying is going to be nothing.

Well, we'll soon find out about the IG report, but Barr and Durham are just getting started.

After all this drama Trump will not be removed from office, and the Dems like an electable candidate.

Good luck going forward.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
1.1.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    4 months ago
Well, we'll soon find out about the IG report,

late-breaking news. from the NYtimes

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/us/politics/ig-report-steele-dossier.html

WASHINGTON — Attorney General William P. Barr recently approved making public new details about a former F.B.I. informant at the heart of conservatives’ allegations about the Russia investigation, deciding to release information that had been blacked out in a highly anticipated inspector general’s report due out on Monday.

A representative from the office of the Justice Department inspector general, Michael E. Horowitz, told the former F.B.I. informant, Christopher Steele, on Sunday that the Justice Department had decided to allow for the release of the information, two people briefed on the situation said late on Sunday.

Mr. Steele was given no details about the information itself, nor was he told how it would affect the report’s portrayal of him, the people said. Mr. Horowitz is expected to be critical of Mr. Steele, a British former spy who compiled a dossier of salacious, unverified information about President Trump. F.B.I. officials relied to some degree on the dossier to seek a court order for a wiretap of a former Trump campaign adviser , and the president’s allies have seized on the issue to make broad claims about the sprawling Russia investigation.

The notice to Mr. Steele on the eve of the report’s release was highly unusual. Like the other witnesses interviewed for the inspector general’s report, Mr. Steele had earlier reviewed the findings that are pertinent to him, and he was given a chance to comment on them. In this case, Mr. Horowitz’s office did not detail for him the additional information and gave him no opportunity to respond for the report to be released on Monday.


 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    4 months ago

So this IG report will be nothing but just wait until Barr and Durham are done?

Gee this sounds familiar.  

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Tessylo
1.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @1.1.3    4 months ago

We know Barr's resume was the 4 page 'summary' of the Mueller report.

This report Barr will release is how he keeps his job.  

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
1.1.6  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    4 months ago

in this case, barr removed redactions

how is that hiding something?.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.4    4 months ago
So this IG report will be nothing but just wait until Barr and Durham are done? Gee this sounds familiar.  

Sounds quite a bit like the impeachment proceedings.  Molehill turned into a mountain.

 
 
 
Ender
1.1.8  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    4 months ago

Could not make out what you were trying to say.

 
 
 
Ender
1.1.9  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.2    4 months ago

Barr is a whack job that thinks presidential powers are untouchable. He thinks a president is a king while in office.

He has a history of cleaning up after republican presidents and had a hand in giving pardons to the people involved in the Iran-Contra affairs. 

Funny that the people that supposedly want to drain the swamp are happy and put all their faith in a man that has a history of covering things up and getting people off.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago

Treason is what this administration is guilty of.  Stark raving madness, describes this 'president' and his supporters very well.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    4 months ago

Wishing dosen't make it so.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    4 months ago

The truth.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    4 months ago

Can you handle the truth?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.3    4 months ago
The supporters of this 'president' obviously cannot.  
 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    4 months ago
Treason is what this administration is guilty of.

People claiming that nonsense clearly have no understanding of what treason actually is.

And it shows!

 
 
 
It Is ME
1.2.6  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.5    4 months ago
treason

"Professional Politician" Hillary "Clinton"..... being defeated by a "Non-Professional Politician" Donald "Trump" ! jrSmiley_103_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.2.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.5    4 months ago
People claiming that nonsense clearly have no understanding of what treason actually is.

Sure they do.

Treason: noun.   The crime of saying mean things on Twitter, especially when those things offend very angry, emotional leftists.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.7    4 months ago

Can I ask you a question? Why do you support a known liar, crook, bigot , and moron to be president of the United States?  Are you proud of that?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
1.2.9  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.8    4 months ago
Can I ask you a question?

Only if I can ask you one in return.

Why do you support a known liar, crook, bigot , and moron to be president of the United States?  Are you proud of that?

As we've discussed repeatedly, I don't support Trump.  I voted against the Yankee Asshole.

I oppose idiotic fuckwittery.  I oppose brainless hysteria.  I heap scorn and derision on anyone who is so pathetically weak that they let their emotions override their reason.  That includes those who are so out of control that they declare anyone who falls short of their own level of hysteria to be some sort of enemy. 

Such people are dangers to modern civilization and should be ostracized from the community like the lepers of old, lest spread their disease to others.  Unlike lepers, these are disgusting, sickly people who eagerly choose this infection and then wallow in their own emotional illness because they lack the fortitude to choose reason.

So your turn.

Why do you allow your hatred of a man who has almost no influence on your daily life to drive you to such an emotional state that you abandon those things you would otherwise hold dear?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    4 months ago
That's the real story 

The real story is the insatiable imaginations of right wing conspiracy theorists. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3    4 months ago
The real story is the insatiable imaginations of right wing conspiracy theorists. 

Let's see, nearly all of the FBI executives who handled the Russia/Trump counter intelligence investigation have left the bureau. Some have been fired. Others have resigned under intense scrutiny. Several have become the subject of federal investigations themselves, and two have joined CNN as legal analysts.

So much for a conspiracy theory

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.3.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.1    4 months ago

Lets face it. It doesnt matter (to you) what the IG says. Conspiracy theories, old and new, will cover it all.  That is taken for granted. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.2    4 months ago

I'd say that's a given.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.2    4 months ago
It doesnt matter (to you) what the IG says.

It matters when he makes a criminal referral. I guess people at the Justice Department don't.  

The IG is very limited in what he can look at. It's the Durham investigation that I'm focused on.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.3.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.4    4 months ago

You were focused on the IG report until you werent, is that it? lol. 

The only way Durham will find anything is if Barr rigs it. Which is not out of the realm of possibility by the way. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.3.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.5    4 months ago
You were focused on the IG report until you werent, is that it? lol.

I'm still interested in it, John, even though all those being investigated got to leak out all their BS, thanks to their being granted a right to review the material.


The only way Durham will find anything is if Barr rigs it. 

Oh that's right - try and discredit it. You afraid those rotten scum bags will get caught?


BTW, from Mark Meadows:

"I just got out of a nearly 2 hour briefing on the IG report. It is deeply disturbing. Some former FBI and DOJ officials are about to have some serious explaining to do. More details to come shortly."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.3.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.6    4 months ago

I dont believe in far right conspiracy theories , although thanks to people like some of those we see on NT , there is an endless supply of them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.3.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.7    4 months ago
I dont believe in far right conspiracy theories

Your'e like those who didn't believe Christ.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.3.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.6    4 months ago


Of applications for warrants to spy on US citizen Carter Page, IG says "numerous instances in which factual representations in those applications were inaccurate, incomplete, or unsupported by appropriate documentation."

 
 
 
Dulay
1.3.10  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3.9    4 months ago

What are you quoting Vic? 

 
 
 
bbl-1
2  bbl-1    4 months ago

Stark raving madness?  Really?

Incandescent light bulbs, toilet flushing, "Stable genius" thing, "I've got the biggest brain" thing and "Putin likes me."  Now that is stark.

 
 
 
Ender
2.1  Ender  replied to  bbl-1 @2    4 months ago

The true madness is the trump enablers.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ender @2.1    4 months ago

Yup and they keep posting the same debunked lies over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Ender @2.1    4 months ago
The true madness is the trump enablers.

There are millions of us and the numbers are continuing to grow.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    4 months ago

'There are millions of us and the numbers are continuing to grow.'

No, they're shrinking.  

It's just that all that stark raving madness or batshit craziness really stands out.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  bbl-1 @2    4 months ago
"I've got the biggest brain"

The biggest of a few things

 
 
 
Tacos!
3  Tacos!    4 months ago
“It is up to them if they want to be patriots or partisans"

Wooooow! What an asshole.

Remember when ohhh . . . about day before yesterday or so . . . When Democrats thought the “patriot” meant the same thing as “fascist?” Whatever’s convenient in the moment, I guess.

 
 
 
Ronin2
3.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tacos! @3    4 months ago

Nadler proceeded that with this

No, I think that what puts bitterness and divisiveness into our politics is the conduct of the president who questions the patriotism of people who don’t agree with him

Do these morons even listen to themselves? He is guilty of the very thing he is accusing Trump of.

I know, I know; but Trruuummmmppppp!!!!!!

Hopefully the Democrats will get the beat down in the upcoming elections they more than deserve.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @3    4 months ago
Wooooow! What an asshole.

A Grade A.


Remember when ohhh . . . about day before yesterday or so . . . When Democrats thought the “patriot” meant the same thing as “fascist?”

Come to think of it, I do!  I recall leftist professors making excuses for Joe Stalin and Mao and most of all those memorable days when they defended draft dodgers and those moving to Canada. They also feel deeply in love with "Che" Guevara and Fidel Castro. Suddenly, we are to believe that they are wrapped in the flag they used to burn.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
3.2.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2    4 months ago

And this aiding and abetting thingy??  Cuba, Iran, Iraq, Egypt, Nicaragua, Panama, Vietnam, Philippines and others that the U.S.government/CIA/State Department "assisted" in regime change?  Wonder why those President's weren't "Impeached"????

 
 
 
The People's Fish
3.2.2  The People's Fish  replied to  1stwarrior @3.2.1    4 months ago

Ukraine was bagging cash for the opposition party. You know the answer.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  1stwarrior @3.2.1    4 months ago

One could argue that a US president aided in the rise of the Shah of Iran while another US president was complicit in his demise. JFK definitely gave the Ok to the coup that got Ngo Dinh Diem assassinated. You are 100% right. Those were far more serious than asking for an announcement of an investigation.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.3    4 months ago

Did Kennedy ask a South Vietnamese official to help him win re-election? 

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.2.5  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.4    4 months ago
Did Kennedy ask a South Vietnamese official to help him win re-election?

Did he ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.4    4 months ago

Neither did Trump, However even if Trump had the intention of using information on Joe Biden to win an election it would pale in comparison to being involved in a coup that brought down a foreign leader.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.6    4 months ago

'it would pale in comparison to being involved in a coup that brought down a foreign leader.'

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1stwarrior
3.2.8  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.4    4 months ago

Wow John - just shows you're not as old as you try to make yourself out to be.

No, JFK inserted troops in Vietnam to help CHANGE A REGIME - little bit more stronger than winning a "re-election".

Jeezzzz.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  It Is ME @3.2.5    4 months ago
Did he ?

See that's what they do. They aren't satisfied with the quid pro quo being exposed. Then then have to embellish it to say the President was trying to interfere in the 2020 election. What Hunter Biden did differs from what Joe Biden did. Joe Biden got a prosecutor fired. He admitted it. That's all there is to Joe Biden's involvement. We all know it. Progressives have to build on that with what others were thinking and trying to do.

Hunter Biden was a POS who was being used by Burisma for protection. Joe Biden wanted to protect his son. End of story.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.2.10  It Is ME  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.2.9    4 months ago
End of story.

Liberal types NEVER want a story ended. They'd lose votes if that happened.

Liberal types are the Best of the Best authors of the..... "Never Ending Story" !

If the story "Ends", they sell books no more ! jrSmiley_54_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.2.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  It Is ME @3.2.10    4 months ago
If the story "Ends", they sell books no more

Bedtime stories

 
 
 
Kavika
3.2.12  Kavika   replied to  1stwarrior @3.2.8    4 months ago

JFK never added combat troops to Vietnam he called them advisors. 

That Vietnam thing really went well, didn't it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.2.13  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @3.2.8    4 months ago

One is legitimate foreign policy (even if proven wrong by history) and the other is asking a foreign government to influence a US election.  Not remotely comparable. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
3.2.14  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.13    4 months ago

"LEGITIMATE" foreign policy means we are allowed to go into any country we wish and change leadership because we don't agree with their ideas/policy of government???  Oh yeah - forgot - just ask the Native Americans how beneficial that was.

Yes John - TOTALLY comparable.  So, you are saying that it was fine that your Aunt allowed the CIA and State Department to overthrow and dismantle the Nicaraguan government - the Libyan government - and the Bushes and their predecessors could "rearrange" governments of the ME???

Sounds to me like you're really approving of FORCEABLE change over diplomatic change.

Chicago rubbing off on ya, eh???  J/K.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.2.15  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @3.2.14    4 months ago

Trump asking the president of a foreign country to investigate someone Trump is running for U.S. president against is not legitimate foreign policy. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
4  Kathleen    4 months ago

She is such a flaky women. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kathleen @4    4 months ago
She is such a flaky women.

She claims to be a Catholic who prays for the President every day!  And she said it with a straight face!

Forget about her heritage - she is a disgrace to that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    4 months ago
She claims to be a Catholic who prays for the President every day!

I'm sure that she is praying that he will change for the better. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    4 months ago

I have a bridge in Brooklyn you might be interested in. I'll give it to you for practically nothing.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5  Paula Bartholomew    4 months ago

I will be sooooo glad when all of this is over.

 
 
 
Kathleen
5.1  Kathleen  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5    4 months ago

I will be too, it’s just a big mess.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Kathleen @5.1    4 months ago

It's up to us to end it!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6  JohnRussell    4 months ago

When Trump asked Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden 

"The other thing, there’s a lot of talk about Biden’s son, that (Joe) Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. (Joe) Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it ... It sounds horrible to me."

as soon as Trump said that he had committed an impeachable offense. In their hearts everyone knows this,  but the charade that he is the real victim is carried out by those who dont care what he does. 

 
 
 
Ender
6.1  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @6    4 months ago

They know, they just don't care.

 
 
 
Ronin2
6.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @6.1    4 months ago

No more than the left cares about Joe Biden being guilty of the very thing Trump is being accused of. Unlike Trump, Biden had the audacity to brag about it; and throw Obama under the bus as well.

If Biden wins the presidency we will see how eager the left is to eat one of their own. They might even get their wish to impeach someone before they assume the presidency.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.1    4 months ago

Biden and his son aren't guilty of anything.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @6.1    4 months ago
They know

You don't even know.   Your'e waiting to find out what the impeachable offense is like everyone else.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.2    4 months ago
Biden and his son aren't guilty of anything.  

Nope, don't look over there!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.1    4 months ago
No more than the left cares about Joe Biden being guilty of the very thing Trump is being accused of.

It's not only Biden. Many Presidents have had quid pro quo's in the course of diplomatic relations. What would pallets of cash for Iran's cooperation mean?

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.4    4 months ago

No, they're not guilty of anything.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.6    4 months ago

Then neither is the President. It's called "the shoes on the other foot test"

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.7    4 months ago

No, Joe Biden and his son not being guilty doesn't mean this 'president' isn't guilty.

That makes no sense.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.5    4 months ago
'What would pallets of cash for Iran's cooperation mean?'

That debunked nonsense again?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.9    4 months ago

Are you saying it didn't happen?

 
 
 
Ender
6.1.11  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.1    4 months ago

Talk about spin. I should not expect anything else.

Dems bad, repubs flawless, in some demented alternate reality.

Funny that Mulvaney admitted on tv what you all still deny.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6    4 months ago
as soon as Trump said that he had committed an impeachable offense.

And the impeachable offense is?

You wouldn't need to wait to find out what Nadler says it is if it was valid.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2    4 months ago

I dont need to wait for Nadler. One of the constitutional experts at the hearing last week said exactly that Trump's very ask of an investigation of Biden by a foreign government is a violation of federal campaign laws and is an impeachable offense.  You cannot ask for a thing of value from a foreign government in connection with a US election. 

You have to be an IDIOT to think that Trump was concerned about "corruption" in Ukraine when he asked Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden.  And he did ask Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden specifically. Would you like me to quote it for you again Vic?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.1    4 months ago

It is not an impeachable offense, but do pursue it. This hate filled quest must play out until it ends with democrats losing everything. I'm with ya, John.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.2    4 months ago

Every time you seed an article about this we learn that you are not familiar with the facts. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.2    4 months ago

Of course it's an impeachable offense.  This 'president' is committing one impeachable offense after another.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6.2.3    4 months ago

You always have so much substance for us that you need to launch another personal attack.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.4    4 months ago
This 'president' is committing one impeachable offense after another.  

Yet you can't name it for us.

 
 
 
lib50
6.2.7  lib50  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.6    4 months ago

We are watching impeachment hearings and you don't even know the articles talked about?  I know Trumpers don't want to hear what he's done, but if you want to discuss impeachment you ought to at least know what they are talking about.   Willfully obtuse isn't a good look.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  lib50 @6.2.7    4 months ago
We are watching impeachment hearings and you don't even know the articles talked about?

Apparently, neither do you.  John says "abuse of power." What say you?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
6.2.9  Greg Jones  replied to  lib50 @6.2.7    4 months ago

I haven't watched a minute of these biased "hearings", because I know how the whole shebang will end.

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.10  katrix  replied to  Greg Jones @6.2.9    4 months ago
I haven't watched a minute of these biased "hearings", because I know how the whole shebang will end.

And you don't want facts to get in the way of the conspiracy theories.

 
 
 
lib50
6.2.11  lib50  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.8    4 months ago

Abuse of power is an impeachable offense.  So is obstruction of justice.  So is bribery.  So is extortion.

 
 
 
MUVA
6.2.12  MUVA  replied to  lib50 @6.2.11    4 months ago

None of those things happen I see disappointment in your future.

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.2.13  Sunshine  replied to  lib50 @6.2.11    4 months ago
Abuse of power is an impeachable offense.  So is obstruction of justice.  So is bribery.  So is extortion.

Blah blah.

What happend to  RUSSIA RUSSIA ? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
1stwarrior
6.3  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @6    4 months ago

"(Joe) Biden stopped the prosecution"  and "(Joe) Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution"

Little Joe's being let go scott free for AIDING AND ABETTING by withholding $1.5 BILLION dollars in aid that Congress had already approved.

 
 
 
lib50
6.3.1  lib50  replied to  1stwarrior @6.3    4 months ago

See, that is not true.  Biden was doing the business of the USA and our allies removing a corrupt Ukrainian prosecutor who was NOT investigating corruption.  Biden wasn't doing anything on his personal behalf, he was acting in his official capacity.  The Burisma crap has already been investigated and nothing was there.  If we are going to look at political spawn that is something that needs to include the Trump family and others in congress, senate and appointees.  Nothing to do with the impeachment except as an excuse to go after Biden and deflect from Trump's crimes.  Republicans are taking Putin's lies and using them to defend Trump at the expense of OUR country and the Ukraine and the benefit to Russia.  Allowing them to dodge responsibility for interfering in 2016 and allowing them to continue right now and into 2020. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
6.3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  lib50 @6.3.1    4 months ago

Biden and his son have yet to be investigated.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

This morning democrats will try to pin an impeachable offense on the President of the United States.

Right now some leftist demonstrator is making noise and has to be removed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7    4 months ago

Some Trump nut in the audience jumped up at the start of the impeachment hearing today and began screaming "we voted for Donald Trump" 

Sir, we dont need to hear about your personal mistakes. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    4 months ago

Is that what you heard?  I heard "He abused his power".  Too bad Nadler isn't trying to persuade anybody. Instead he keeps talking to the hate-filled wing of his despicable party

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    4 months ago

You were wrong again Vic. video

https://twitter.com/RebeccaRKaplan/status/1204041926133112832?s=20

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Already a lively day at the ⁦
impeachment hearing this morning as a protester disrupts ⁦ ⁩’s opening statement to excoriate Democrats for trying to impeach Trump.
 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.1    4 months ago

[delete]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.2    4 months ago

Oh, great we finally have a protester who isn't a leftist. Thank Kaplan & Nadler for getting the audio out there.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.3    4 months ago
Trump supporters are a total embarrassment to this country. 

Keep saying it John. Keep reminding them why they must get out and vote!



trump-battleground-states-LV-10-31-19-62

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.5    4 months ago

Since 2017 Trump's existence as president has resulted in subpar performance by Republican candidates in the vast majority of contested elections across the country. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.6    4 months ago

Keep telling yourself that John. Anytime you want to wager on the 2020 election just let me know.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.6    4 months ago

There have been a lot of tight races between republicons and democrats since 2017.  That tells us a lot.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.8    4 months ago

I'm sure John will want to get into the details of those!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.9    4 months ago

Your seeds are becoming more and more irrelevant as this thing goes along.  Now your defense of Trump is that you think he's going to win the election. Yikes. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.10    4 months ago

You guys failed to prove your case & no amount of arrogant lectures from Dem donors can change that.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
7.1.12  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.10    4 months ago
Your seeds are becoming more and more irrelevant as this thing goes along. 

What as apposed to yours that have been irrelevant since I came to NT? Russia... Russia.... Russia. Collusion...Obstruction But Hillaryious Hillary got the popular vote.

Nadler is a joke just like a majority of the Democrat leadership and their lemmings are to dumb to see it.

We do not now have the evidence sorted out and everything to do an impeachment. Before you impeach somebody you have to persuade the American public that it ought to happen. You have to persuade enough of the opposition party voters, the President Donald Trump voters.
– Jerry Nadler
 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  KDMichigan @7.1.12    4 months ago

One thing always stands out about your comments. They are fact free. 

We do hear a lot about Hillaryous though.  Someone who was last relevant over three years ago. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

Let's see we have two lawyers, films and signs with talking points!  If only they could spoon feed the American public with BS?

When you have obvious impeachable offenses, you don't have to put on such a show. Nothing meets the Constitutional criteria for impeachment. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    4 months ago
The word “corruption” never even appeared in either of President Trump’s calls with President Zelensky,  despite the fact his advisors encouraged him to raise the issue in his communications with the Ukrainian president, and handing him talking points reminding him to raise the issue." https://www.justsecurity.org/67658/seven-outright-falsehoods-in-gop-staff-report-on-impeachment/
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1    4 months ago

John, iv'e never disputed a quid pro quo. It simply dosen't rise to an impeachable offense.

Again, Please tell me what the Articles of Impeachment will be???

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.1    4 months ago

There was an entire scheme to with hold the aid as a quid pro quo, not just a few words on a phone call. 

Trump abuses the power of his office. He is not fit to be president of the United States. Not remotely fit. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.2    4 months ago

Abuse of Power?  Does that fall under any of the 4 criteria for impeachment?



There was an entire scheme to with hold the aid 

In a largely overlooked portion of his testimony, one of the Democrats’ star witnesses stated that the National Security Council found that the 55-day pause in U.S. military aid to Ukraine was   lawful .

“There was an opinion, legal opinion, rendered that   the hold was legal ,” Army Lieutenant Colonel Alexander Vindman told the House Intelligence Committee on November 19."

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/legal-actions-led-to-trumps-impeachment/?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    4 months ago
There was an entire scheme to with hold the aid





"Trump told Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky by phone, “ I would like you to do us a favor ” and examine alleged Ukrainian interference in the 2016 election, what he suspected to be Ukrainian hacking of DNC computers (atop Russian skullduggery), and corruption accusations against the Bidens.   This request   conformed to America’s Treaty with Ukraine on Mutual Legal Assistance in Criminal Matters. President Clinton signed this pact in July 1998. The Senate ratified it in October 2000.

  The U.S. and Ukraine agreed to “ provide mutual assistance   … in connection with the investigation, prosecution, and prevention of offenses, and in proceedings related to criminal matters.”


https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/12/legal-actions-led-to-trumps-impeachment/?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.4    4 months ago
The word “corruption” never even appeared in either of President Trump’s calls with President Zelensky,  despite the fact his advisors encouraged him to raise the issue in his communications with the Ukrainian president, and handing him talking points reminding him to raise the issue." https://www.justsecurity.org/67658/seven-outright-falsehoods-in-gop-staff-report-on-impeachment/

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.5    4 months ago

So what?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.4    4 months ago

Why didnt Trump suggest that the US Senate investigate Biden?  If he's so concerned with what Biden did in Ukraine he surely would have done that. 

His scheme was entirely for political purposes. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.6    4 months ago

LOL. 

 
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.7    4 months ago
Why didnt Trump suggest that the US Senate investigate Biden? 

The US Senate?  To conduct an investigation? The agreement we have with the Ukraine for aid, demands that they clean up their act. That includes "The black ledger", Burisma  and Alexandra Chalupa!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.9    4 months ago

Citing polls is not a defense against abuse of office charges. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.11    4 months ago

That's going to be it - "abuse of power"?   That's hilarious!

He like every other president has the right to conduct his own foreign policy, just like Obama did.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.12    4 months ago

He does not have the right to ask a foreign government to investigate his election opponents. 

Whether you like it or not, Joe Biden was an election opponent of Trump's on July 25th. Both had official campaigns for the office of president of the United States. 

This is not in dispute Vic.  The only question is if any Republicans and erstwhile Trump supporters are going to care. 

Throw independents in there too, since a lot of them seem to be against impeachment. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.11    4 months ago
Citing polls is not a defense against abuse of office charges. 

Those polls prove my point about how dems are burying themselves with this impeachment quest.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.13    4 months ago
Whether you like it or not, Joe Biden was an election opponent of Trump's on July 25th. Both had official campaigns for the office of president of the United States. 

And whether you like it or not, Hillary Clinton was Donald Trump's opponent when her campaign used buffers to purchase dirt on Trump. That dirt known as the Steele Dossier was used by government officials to launch investigations of Trump & his campaign.
How about exchanging America’s most sensitive technology, including but not limited to nuclear missile and satellite technology, possibly in exchange for millions of dollars in campaign contributions?  (aka Chinagate)

You had no problem with that.  Again you fail to pass the shoes on the other foot test.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.15    4 months ago

Clinton , through a lawyers office, contracted for opposition research on Trump. At that time she was unaware of a "Steele Dossier".  Steele was also not a government official of a foreign country. 

By the way, point out where she stood on a stage and asked a foreign government to steal Trump's private emails or papers (as he did to her).  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.17  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.16    4 months ago
Clinton , through a lawyers office, contracted for opposition research on Trump.

Correct

At that time she was unaware of a "Steele Dossier".

And when she was aware of it they used it.

Steele was also not a government official of a foreign country. 

He was a former British Intelligence officer. Between 2014 and 2016, Steele created over 100 reports on Russian and Ukrainian issues, which were read within the US State Department. His information for the infamous Dossier supposedly came from Russian sources.


By the way, point out where she stood on a stage and asked a foreign government to steal Trump's private emails or papers (as he did to her).

That is a blatant lie:  Candidate Trump said “Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing, I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”

You know, the e-mails that Hillary had destroyed after they were subpoenaed, with Obama's FBI giving the man who destroyed them immunity from prosecution!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8.1.18  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.16    4 months ago
point out where she stood on a stage and asked a foreign government to steal Trump's private emails or papers (as he did to her).  

Emails that where on the server ceased by the federal Government after Hillarious Hillary deleted all the incriminating evidence?

256

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.19  JohnRussell  replied to  KDMichigan @8.1.18    4 months ago
Emails that where on the server ceased by the federal Government 

what does "ceased" mean ? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.15    4 months ago

Where did you come up with this 'the shoe is on the other foot test' malarkey?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.21  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.20    4 months ago

"malarkey" ?   Have you joined the Biden campaign?

For your info - the shoe on the other foot test comes from a distinguished liberal law professor.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.22  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.17    4 months ago

Vic, hours after Trump asked Russia to "find" Hillarys emails, operatives of the Russian government tried to hack her private computer system. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.1.23  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.22    4 months ago
hours after Trump asked Russia to "find" Hillarys emails, operatives of the Russian government tried to hack her private computer system. 

Gosh....that would mean Trump isn't as inept and Stupid as the Liberals try to make him out to be....huh !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.24  JohnRussell  replied to  It Is ME @8.1.23    4 months ago

Possibly, but it also means COLLUSION , lol. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.22    4 months ago
Vic, hours after Trump asked Russia to "find" Hillarys emails, operatives of the Russian government tried to hack her private computer system. 

John, you keep saying that. It dosen't change what Trump said nor does it change the fact that Russia tried to hack the GOP server as well!!!!!

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.1.26  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.24    4 months ago
Possibly, but it also means COLLUSION

Soooooo …… Possible..... "IS" Collusion ?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8.1.27  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @8.1.19    4 months ago
what does "ceased" mean ? 

Oh no JR you got me, I misused the wrong seized, thank god you now validated every left wing conspiracy post you ever posted with that catch.

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JohnRussell
8.1.28  JohnRussell  replied to  KDMichigan @8.1.27    4 months ago
I misused the wrong seized

"ceased" is not pronounced  "ceaze". 

But this is amusing. Keep going. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
9  Tessylo    4 months ago

He's been withholding aid to Lebanon since October.  

What's up with that?

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.1  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @9    4 months ago
He's been withholding aid to Lebanon since October.   What's up with that?

Ummmm….. Hezbollah ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Greg Jones
9.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @9    4 months ago

Isn't that the enemy?

 
 
 
It Is ME
10  It Is ME    4 months ago

“We’re going to impeach the president".... “If we impeach the president, we’ll impeach him on adequate and urgent grounds to defend our Democratic Republic.”

What Nadler, Pelosi and Schifty really mean:

"If we impeach the president, we’ll impeach him on adequate and urgent grounds to defend our own "Democrat" Election .

 
 
 
1stwarrior
10.1  1stwarrior  replied to  It Is ME @10    4 months ago

"defend our Democratic Republic.”

Sorry Nadler - guess you need to go back to your Civics 101 class in Kindergarden.

Interesting, especially since the U.S. is a CONSTITUTIONAL Republic, not a Democratic Republic.

 
 
 
It Is ME
10.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  1stwarrior @10.1    4 months ago
especially since the U.S. is a CONSTITUTIONAL Republic, not a Democratic Republic.

The "Constituent is not to be recognized at this time" ! jrSmiley_104_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
11  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

There is a rule that a witness may not defame the President.  What did I just hear?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    4 months ago

The truth is a defense against libel.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
11.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1    4 months ago

Nadler first claimed he was a witness then refused to have him sworn in and then said he wasn't a witness and he is gone and not coming back.  He broke House rules. And he will get away with it!


The truth

So far it's been underwhelming!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.1    4 months ago

Bad news Vic. Trump is guilty.  All the GOP games they want can not change that.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
11.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.2    4 months ago

He is? When can we expect a conviction?

 
 
 
It Is ME
11.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.2    4 months ago
Trump is guilty....

… on Sandys friends aunt telling her dad that his sisters boyfriend heard something from his 5th cousin that troubled him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
11.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @11    4 months ago
What did I just hear?

I don't know.  What did you just hear?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
11.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @11.2    4 months ago

Democratic counsel Barry Berke defamed the President as a witness. It is against House rules. Now he is asking questions

 
 
 
Tessylo
11.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.2.1    4 months ago

How did he defame the 'president' as a witness?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.2.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @11.2.2    4 months ago
How did he defame the 'president' as a witness?

He didn't. That fantasy whopper came straight out of the GOP talking point bonanza on Faux News.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
11.2.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.2.3    4 months ago

Maybe you should have listened to the minority members. Oh, that's right, shut then down and then seat your counsel as a witness and then have him walk up to the dais and grill his fellow witness.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.2.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.2.4    4 months ago
Oh, that's right, shut then down and then seat your counsel as a witness and then have him walk up to the dais and grill his fellow witness.

None of the "witnesses" today were there during the commission of the crime, they were attorneys for both parties. Trying to claim you can't call the fellow parties attorney because they were a "witness" to the preceding's previously is ridiculous. It's not as if the opposing sides attorney can be categorized the same way a mere witness to a crime might be. So it's obvious that the Democrats aren't calling someone who is actually "testifying" aka "I saw the defendant do 'etc.' ", they are merely testifying as to the process so far.

If I had someone who says they saw me pick my nose and eat it, tell the judges everything they saw, then they got up and were one of the judges, well obviously that would be improper. A witnesses testifying as to a crime being committed also being one of the judges of the crime? Totally improper. Now, if you're going to call one of the jurors from a grand jury and ask them to testify as to what they saw during the grand jury, why do we have a problem with this? He's not a partial party that supposedly saw the key event and thus could testify to something he didn't really see. The Democrat attorney was simply testifying as to what he saw during the testimony and procedural testimony, but that would effect in any way the actual State department employee testimony of the facts so far established.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12  Texan1211    4 months ago

This crap is going to cost Democrats dearly come election time.

And the best part is that they don't even know it yet!

 
 
 
It Is ME
13  It Is ME    4 months ago

"Stark Raving Madness "

Council for the democrats …. Burke....testifies as a witness (long drawn out "I Felt" speech) for the Democrats, then immediately jumps up to the Bench to become the Democrats bestest of all litigators to question witness's. jrSmiley_103_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
14  author  Vic Eldred    4 months ago

Final Thoughts

The hearing debacle

Today's journey into Jerry Nadler's dystopian reality show left us all angry and once again bitterly divided. The affront to human decency began with the openly partisan witness/counsel/interrogator Barry Berke calling the President of the United States a "clear & present danger." He then engaged in a 30 minute tirade from the witness chair, without ever being sworn in. He then got to grill his fellow witnesses for another 40 minutes or so before leaving the hearing room. 

We were then subjected to a day of bitter partisan bickering about the monstrous act the President committed, the rules adopted by Nadler for this particular hearing and the fact that Adam Schiff was not available for questioning. We were all left wondering what comes next as even Nadler dosen't seem to know. Unlike the powerful Articles of Impeachment which would have been used against Richard Nixon, we haven't got a clue as to what the Articles will be on this one.  One thing is for sure - as soon as Pelosi knows she has the votes - a vote on the Articles of Impeachment will be taken, as public support for impeachment is collapsing.


The IG Report (Part II)

The long awaited IG report was kind of a mixed bag for everyone. The big winner was Carter Page. He was totally exonerated. He was never a Russian agent nor should have he been used the way he was by the FBI.

We learned that the FBI left out vital information in order to keep getting warrants to spy on Page.

We learned that the FBI uned various informants to keep tabs on the Trump campaign.

FBI officials misled the FISA Court.

Most important of all - Both AG Barr and US Attorney Durham disagreed with some of the IG findings. That is totally understandable. IG Horowitz ran a very limited investigation into the DOJ only. He could not even interview those no longer working within the Department. Durham, on the other hand, has broad powers to investigate all the intelligence agencies and convene Grand Juries and prosecute individuals. He need not worry about colleagues within the DOJ or the disposition of liberal DC juries.

 
 
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