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Why Do Liberals Hate Trump?

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  5 years ago  •  47 comments

By:   John C. Goodman

Why Do Liberals Hate Trump?
Unlike most Republican leaders, Donald Trump is not a social conservative. He approves of gay marriage. He’s not particularly religious. He rarely goes to church. His personal life doesn’t seem to reflect Christian values. He fought racial and ethnic bias in Palm Beach (a historic bastion of prejudice) by opening his Mar-a-Lago facility to blacks and Jews who were excluded at other clubs and hotels. You could easily call that “progressive.” Donald Trump is also not an economic conservative.

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Liberals and Progressives hate Trump because he  is draining the swamp of them and their double standards.  He’s exposed the bi coastal secular progressives on the left for the frauds that they really are.  He is truly ruling over them on our working class behalf.


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The left hates Donald Trump.

Of course, they also hated Bush ‘41 and Bush ‘43 – to say nothing of Ronald Reagan.

But dislike of Trump has reached a whole new level of intensity. It’s off the charts.

It’s not easy to explain why.

Unlike most Republican leaders, Donald Trump is not a social conservative. He approves of gay marriage. He’s not particularly religious. He rarely goes to church. His personal life doesn’t seem to reflect Christian values. He fought racial and ethnic bias in Palm Beach (a historic bastion of prejudice) by  opening his Mar-a-Lago facility to blacks and Jews  who were excluded at other clubs and hotels. You could easily call that “progressive.”

Donald Trump is also not an economic conservative. Unlike other Republican leaders, he has been unwilling to rein in government spending and he has shown no interest in stemming rising federal debt. He has been unwilling to even discuss controlling entitlement spending  – especially Social Security and Medicare. He has no interest being an opponent of organized labor.

So, what riles the left so much about Trump?

In any intellectual debate, attacking the opponent’s beliefs is not the worst thing you can do. Far worse is destroying the myths people tell themselves to support their beliefs. That’s how Trump differs from traditional Republicans.

Throughout most of modern political history, Republicans have begun their debates with Democrats by saying, “We agree on goals but disagree on how to get there.”

That message sanctions the liberal’s world view. It says, “We approve of and agree with what you are trying to do. And we agree that you really are trying to do it. We just think your lack of understanding of economics and human nature is why your programs fail.”

Trump is not nearly so kind. In saying he wants to “drain the swamp” and in asking African Americans, “What have you got to lose?” he is challenging how liberals think about themselves. He’s asking voters to change how they think about liberalism as such. There is evidence this message is paying off.

By most accounts the reason Donald Trump is president is that blue collar workers in swing states voted for him. For a long time, Trump critics claimed that the reason for this behavior was racism – even though a lot of those same voters previously voted for Barack Obama. 

But racism can’t possibly be the reason for the surge in approval for Trump among blacks and Hispanics. Trump’s approval among nonwhite voters now ranges from  26% to 34% in four national polls . If that is sustained through Election Day, Trump could enjoy a 50-state sweep next November.

Something similar just happened in the British parliamentary elections, where the Conservative Party registered a sweeping victory over Labour – even winning in working class districts where they barely campaigned. Ex-miners, supermarket clerks, retired school teachers and health aides – all  trudged through stinging rain to vote against the very Labour Party that claimed to represent them.

The Tories now have the largest majority since Margaret Thatcher was elected in 1987 and Labour has sustained its worst defeat since 1935. The greatest fear of the American left is that the same thing will happen here.

Many people today who call themselves “liberal” are well off. Of the 25 wealthiest counties in the country,  16 voted for Barack Obama  in 2008. What do they have in common with blue collar workers in the Midwest? Nothing. What do they have in common with poor blacks and Hispanics who live nearby? Their interests are actually opposed. Rich liberals almost never want to send their own children to school with poor, minority children. Nor do they want them living next door.

That’s why  New York City  has one of the most segregated school systems in the country, and  San Francisco  and  Washington D.C.  are right up there as well. Government restrictions on low-income housing are a major reason for increasing homelessness. In fact,  nearly half the homeless population  in America lives in blue state, liberal California.

Most large cities today are run by Democrats. Poor black families in these cities are often relegated to the worst schools; they live in the worst housing; and they are subjected to the country’s worst environmental pollution.

So, Donald Trump is right to ask of black voters, “What have you got to lose?” The only puzzle is, why haven’t other Republicans been saying the same thing all these many years?

Readers who want to understand the roots of the American left’s dilemma should consult my Townhall editorial " What is Modern Liberalism? "

Beginning in the era of Franklin Roosevelt, Democrats told themselves and others that they were the party of the working class. Then, toward the end of the 20 th century, they began telling themselves and others they were also the party of the minorities. In reality, more often than not, they were the party of special interests.

Like the child who declared the emperor has no clothes, Donald Trump has emerged to call a myth a myth.

They hate him for that.








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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

Trump is not nearly so kind. In saying he wants to “drain the swamp” and in asking African Americans, “What have you got to lose?” he is challenging how liberals think about themselves. He’s asking voters to change how they think about liberalism as such. There is evidence this message is paying off.

By most accounts the reason Donald Trump is president is that blue collar workers in swing states voted for him. For a long time, Trump critics claimed that the reason for this behavior was racism – even though a lot of those same voters previously voted for Barack Obama. 

But racism can’t possibly be the reason for the surge in approval for Trump among blacks and Hispanics. Trump’s approval among nonwhite voters now ranges from  26% to 34% in four national polls . If that is sustained through Election Day, Trump could enjoy a 50-state sweep next November.

Something similar just happened in the British parliamentary elections, where the Conservative Party registered a sweeping victory over Labour – even winning in working class districts where they barely campaigned. Ex-miners, supermarket clerks, retired school teachers and health aides – all  trudged through stinging rain to vote against the very Labour Party that claimed to represent them.

The Tories now have the largest majority since Margaret Thatcher was elected in 1987 and Labour has sustained its worst defeat since 1935. The greatest fear of the American left is that the same thing will happen here.

Many people today who call themselves “liberal” are well off. Of the 25 wealthiest counties in the country, 16 voted for Barack Obama  in 2008. What do they have in common with blue collar workers in the Midwest? Nothing. What do they have in common with poor blacks and Hispanics who live nearby? Their interests are actually opposed. Rich liberals almost never want to send their own children to school with poor, minority children. Nor do they want them living next door.

That’s why  New York City  has one of the most segregated school systems in the country, and  San Francisco  and  Washington D.C.  are right up there as well. Government restrictions on low-income housing are a major reason for increasing homelessness. In fact,  nearly half the homeless population  in America lives in blue state, liberal California.

Most large cities today are run by Democrats. Poor black families in these cities are often relegated to the worst schools; they live in the worst housing; and they are subjected to the country’s worst environmental pollution.

So, Donald Trump is right to ask of black voters, “What have you got to lose?” The only puzzle is, why haven’t other Republicans been saying the same thing all these many years?

Readers who want to understand the roots of the American left’s dilemma should consult my Townhall editorial " What is Modern Liberalism? "  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

This was going on before Donald Trump famously came down the elevator. We have forgotten that progressives gave George W Bush a rough ride too, though nothing in comparison to what has been done to Trump, his family and those around him. I can live with the hate, it's their actions and the power they hold which is way beyond what is acceptable. These hate-filled animals have not only subjected the country to their inauguration day hysterics via protests and riots, but have used the power of government in violating citizens civil liberties and the msm to smear decent people, elected officials to obstruct the President's agenda and most recently to bring Acts of Impeachment against him based on nothing but cliche's.

Somehow we all missed this cancer growing within our society. It began on university campus's and it has grown, culminating in the election of Barak Obama. The left thought the nation had been permanently transformed. They expected to win in 2016. How dare the deplorable middle class try to stop them!!! Progressives even voted for Trump in the primaries thinking he was unelectable. Some Republicans thought so too. A funny thing happened though. All those decent hard working Americans, who had been left behind for over 25 years, heard Donald Trump speak. He spoke directly to them. He meant what he said and they knew it.

America was saved on a November night in 2016.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    5 years ago

Saved is exactly the right way to describe what happened that night.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    5 years ago

Because he's a fucking moron. 

5 words summed it up for you. Next. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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2.2  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

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The Magic 8 Ball
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2.3  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago
Because he's a fucking moron

and living rent-free in your head.

just curious.

what is it like to have a "moron beat the entire leftwing politico?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.3    5 years ago

I think we just saw his expression of his bruised feelings about that.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.3    5 years ago

Let’s not forget the great favor he did for America by defeating the wicked witch Hillary.  He deserves the medal of from for that.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.3.3  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.2    5 years ago

losing a chess game and calling the winner a moron?

means the looser is not too bright at all... LOL

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.3.4  JohnRussell  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.3.3    5 years ago
means the looser is not too bright at all... LOL

Definition of losing   =    misstating facts about losers and losing while misspelling the word "looser" .  (The word loser is spelled loser. )

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.3.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.3.3    5 years ago
losing a chess game and calling the winner a moron?

Calling an opponents tantrum where they flip the chess board over in a fit of rage "winning" is a perspective only a complete dumb shit who knows nothing about chess could have.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.3.2    5 years ago

That should be medal of freedom for that.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.4    5 years ago

Thanks for the spelling lesson.  Did it make up for the fact that Hillary was the sore loser?  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.3.8  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.4    5 years ago
Definition of losing   = 

See Democrats from 2016 to present.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @2    5 years ago

No, that was #44 and he’s being erased from the federal record.  Judge by judge, law by law, regulation by regulation. 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.5.1  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.5    5 years ago
 Judge by judge, law by law

that is a fact.

breaking: the obamacare "mandate was just ruled unconstitutional and with no funding mechanism, the whole law is probably done for.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.5.3  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to    5 years ago

the day that law was passed I said it would never survive the courts.  it all has been fun to watch but now the final blow is coming.

ya know... for a news site everyone here seems to miss the good stuff. I guess they are too busy with "orangeman bad to notice things like obamacare being crushed... LOL

 
 
 
katrix
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2.5.4  katrix  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.5.3    5 years ago

While I realize that getting healthy people to participate is the only way to manage the risk, I couldn't understand how the mandate and fines were ruled to be constitutional in the first place.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.5.5  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.5.1    5 years ago

"breaking" news would not be an article that is 12 months old.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.5.6  Texan1211  replied to  katrix @2.5.4    5 years ago
I couldn't understand how the mandate and fines were ruled to be constitutional in the first place.

Pretty simple, really. The Obama Administration argued that the "fines" were really taxes--despite assuring the American public that they were NOT tax increases--before the law was challenged in court.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.5.7  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.5.3    5 years ago

On the other hand, when the individual mandate was found unconstitutional last week, the ACA is still on the state court, SCOTUS merry go round.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.5.8  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.5    5 years ago
"breaking" news would not be an article that is 12 months old.

my bad, wrong link.

I had not had my coffee yet and was doing several things at once. too many tabs at once... LOL

try this one.

or this one.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.5.9  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  katrix @2.5.4    5 years ago
While I realize that getting healthy people to participate

all they had to do was treat healthcare like the dept of education.

apply an income tax, distribute that money to the states and let the states handle their own healthcare.

that would have been perfectly constitutional - while removing insurance companies and their profits all together  (which is why they didn't go that route)

I have never figured out why the left wanted to enslave us to insurance companies for life.  boggles my mind.

cheers :)

 

 
 
 
lib50
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2.5.10  lib50  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @2.5.8    5 years ago

Have to laugh at that, I did same thing the other day when my internet kept going out, wrote a beautiful answer to (probably one of your) questions and it was posted on the wrong seed.  Had to delete it and just gave up that day it was so frustrating.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
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2.5.11  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  lib50 @2.5.10    5 years ago
wrote a beautiful answer to (probably one of your) questions and it was posted on the wrong seed. 

I have done that too... LOL

is good fun :)

 
 
 
katrix
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2.5.12  katrix  replied to  Texan1211 @2.5.6    5 years ago
The Obama Administration argued that the "fines" were really taxes

I get that, but I don't understand why the court agreed.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.5.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.5    5 years ago

The 5th district Court of appeals just recently upheld the older ruling.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.5.14  Texan1211  replied to  katrix @2.5.12    5 years ago

Blame Democrats--they alone passed the bill. Maybe if they had read it thoroughly before passing? Or maybe the Constitutional "experts" could have seen that forcing Americans to buy a product from private companies might be too much of a stretch?

What cracks me up most is Democrats didn't mind govt. telling you, no, forcing you, to buy a product from one of those big, bad insurance companies they all railed against.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.5.15  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.5.13    5 years ago

That would be apparent by the 4 links that Magic 8 Ball and I already posted,

would it not?

Thanks for paying attention to the thread /s

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.5.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.15    5 years ago

You can be civil or simply pollute someone else’s seeds.  Lose the tude.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.5.17  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.5.16    5 years ago

Oh my,  WWJD?

Apparently civility and pollution are in the eye of the beholder.

.

I hope you and your family have a wonderful Holy Day celebrating Christmas.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.5.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.17    5 years ago

Anyone asking WWJD should ask Him themselves.  As to WWJD, I own shares in that ETF as well as BIBL.  My family had a nice politics free day together celebrating the birth on earth of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
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2.5.19  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.5.18    5 years ago

It's a shame you could not practice that on Christmas day as well.

Oh well...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.5.20  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @2.5.19    5 years ago

Actually if you’d been paying attention you would have noticed that my Christmas Eve seed and both Christmas Day seeds were Christmas related.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4  Jeremy Retired in NC    5 years ago
Why Do Liberals Hate Trump?

Because he was the new guy and has beaten them and all of their childish tactics every day since.  They didn't get all the stuff the Democrats promised and they have been acting like spoiled little shits ever since.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4    5 years ago

Like the child who declared the emperor has no clothes, Donald Trump has emerged to call a myth a myth.

They hate him for that.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    5 years ago

Donald Trump doesnt even know what the word myth means. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    5 years ago

How’s your. Trump hating Seed going?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.2    5 years ago

then you agree he doesnt know the meaning of the word "myth" , since you tried to change the subject. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.3    5 years ago

I agree with you about nothing when it comes to politics.  Trump knew all the secular progressive left myths to crack wide open and exactly how to do it.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1.6    5 years ago

How are your Trump hating seeds going now?  

 
 

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