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The Fall of a Media Icon

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  4 years ago  •  137 comments


The Fall of a Media Icon
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Once upon a time there was a lawyer who represented a porn star. He became a media darling not because he representing a porn star, but because he was representing her in a case against a President the media despised. In the case of the porn star he sought to invalidate a nondisclosure agreement involving the President. I never understood how one can simply violate an agreement in which the person has already accepted payment for their silence. I guess my instincts were right - he lost that one big time. A federal judge dismissed the defamation lawsuit and ordered the infamous "Stormy" Daniels to pay President Trump's legal fees. That fact, like many others, got lost along the way. It seems the cocky lawyer, who threatened to take down a President, had become a beloved figure by the left wing media.

The lawyer became a household name. His name was Michael Avenatti and his road to stardom was paved with his attacks on the President via various legal issues from Stormy Daniels to Michael Cohen. In the end he was exposed as a devious liar, but prior to his downfall, he was heralded as the man who would take down Trump!



The media even fancied him as a presidential candidate!  It seems the only media outlet not to be taken in was Fox News. As a matter of fact it was Fox's own Tucker Carlson who challenged him to come on his show. Tucker had already been describing him as " the creepy porn lawyer. " Avenatti accepted and it didn't go well for Avenatti. Funny, how easy it is to stand up to a bully. Well done Tucker! Fox News can stand tall at a time when American journalism no longer exists in certain places.



In 2018, during the Kavanaugh hearings, Avenatti announced that he had a client who made additional allegations against Kavanaugh, as both a witness and a victim of his inappropriate behavior, and that she would soon come forward publicly. She turned out to be yet another of the false accusers rolled out during the democrats scheme to defame & topple Judicial nominee Brett Kavanaugh.

Thus began the fall of America's most vocal celebrity lawyer. To date Michael Avenatti has been indicted on charges of extortion, fraud, and embezzlement - including stealing millions from a paraplegic client. Prosecutors maintain that Avenatti continued to engage in criminal acts even after his indictment.

But what of the media which once had him appearing on TV on an almost daily basis?  They worshiped the man because of all the mean spirited things he said about the President. Now they are silent. Avenatti's once infamous boast's against the President and his son are hard to find on the internet. It's like he never existed.

Avenatti will get the justice he earned, but what of the liberal media?

Where is their reckoning?


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

Fame can be fleeting!


Rules of Civility apply

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2  Tessylo    4 years ago

How is Avanetti a 'media icon'?  Excuse me, a 'left wing media icon'

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2    4 years ago

I refer you to the film in the article.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1    4 years ago

I will not watch Tucker squinty Carlson

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.1    4 years ago

So you don't listen to things that make you uncomfortable?  I understand.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.2    4 years ago

Listening to lies does make me uncomfortable.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.3    4 years ago

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Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.3  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @2    4 years ago
How is Avanetti a 'media icon'?  Excuse me, a 'left wing media icon'

CNN, MSNBC Have Given Stormy Daniels Lawyer Michael Avenatti $175 Million in Earned Media

108 appearances by Avenatti on MSNBC and CNN over a 64-day period from March 7 to May 10

108 appearances. In only two months. There aren’t even 108  days in two months! Worth $175 million. That’s how.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
2.3.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Tacos! @2.3    4 years ago

And that's not counting his appearances on left wing broadcast networks. 

Published   April 11 

The Media Research Center has  determined  that Avenatti made a whopping 254 television appearances over the course of a year

Avenatti appeared most frequently on CNN, which welcomed him an astonishing 121 times. MSNBC also had a high tally, having him on 108 times. He made 24 appearances on broadcast news; 12 on ABC, seven on CBS and five on NBC.

Avenatti appeared on Fox News twice.

Roughly 70 percent of his television appearances took place between March and June of 2018 as his client’s legal battle with the president repeatedly made headlines.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3  Tessylo    4 years ago

How is that the press 'hates' tRump for reporting the truth?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3    4 years ago

Are you now saying that Trump reports the truth?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    4 years ago

I meant to say that how is that the press hates the 'president' when the press reports the truth/video/quotes, etc. that the 'president' spouts?

You knew exactly what I meant.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.1    4 years ago

Just asking.  I'm inquisitive like you are.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4  Sean Treacy    4 years ago

Avenetti is one of those things that get flushed down the progressive memory hole.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5  Tessylo    4 years ago

'In the end he was exposed as a devious liar'

You mean the 'president'?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
6  It Is ME    4 years ago

Avenatti, Parnas….etc....jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

Liberal/Left types, do hang their hats on some GREAT folks to sooth their TDS, don't they ! 

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
8  The Magic 8 Ball    4 years ago

is he still running for president?  LOL

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
8.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @8    4 years ago

I kind of knew when he was predicting that Don Jr was going to jail, that it would be Avenatti who was destined for a steel cage.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9  JohnRussell    4 years ago

The world has moved on from Michael Avenatti, quite a while ago actually. 

Not a surprise that right wing extremists,  who are active members of the demented cult of Trump, would try and make something significant out of whats left of any interest in Avenatti. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @9    4 years ago

Amen!

Keep digging up the past, to deflect from this 'president's impeachment and wrongdoing and lies.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.3  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9    4 years ago

Looners on the left are quick to move on from all things that have blown up in their collective faces like Stormy Daniels, Avenatti and every other hoax they’ve tried to pull.    They have to if they want to protect their fake narratives

Your attempts at resisting/denying the truth are childlike in nature.    You are fooling no one.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @9.3    4 years ago

Your'e just upset because Stormy Daniels told the world that Trump's dick was smaller than average and shaped like a mushroom.   Too disillusioning. 

Ok Sparty, go back through my comments and find one where I say Avenatti is the second coming and will solve all the country's problems and should be our national leader.   I'll wait right here. 

His usefulness was in his willingness to get dirty and harsh with Trump. Big deal. 

When it turned out he was a crook like Trump too , it ended his usefulness. When was the last time you saw a "progressive" bringing up Avenatti?  A year ago?

Dont embarrass yourself any further. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    4 years ago
it ended his usefulness. When was the last time you saw a "progressive" bringing up Avenatti?  A year ago?

So you do admit that progressives are willing to get in bed with anything to destroy Trump? Be it Avenatti or Iran!  And yes, that was part of my point - progressives have stopped bringing up Avenatti. They would like us all to forget it.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.2    4 years ago

The difference between progressives and right wingers is when someone is shown to be a scum bag the progressives drop him. 

When someone is shown to the right wingers to be a scumbag they elect him president. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.3    4 years ago
The difference between progressives and right wingers is when someone is shown to be a scum bag the progressives drop him. 

You mean like Ted Kennedy?


When someone is shown to the right wingers to be a scumbag they elect him president. 

We vote for what's best for this country, not on identity politics and envy....that's the difference

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.3.5  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    4 years ago

Lol, I’m not the one who should be embarrassed John.    Your body of work here speaks for itself for anyone who has paid a modicum of attention to it

Hate on brother, hate on.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
9.3.6  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.3    4 years ago
The difference between progressives and right wingers is when someone is shown to be a scum bag the progressives drop him. 

Lizzy's still around, and running for President of this country too ! jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.3.7  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.3    4 years ago

Most progressives have their heads shoved so squarely up their rear ends they haven’t seen the light of day for years.

Progressive = Fascist in training

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.3.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.2    4 years ago

He was forgotten by us, until y'all brought him up.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.5    4 years ago

I'm not the Trump supporter between the two of us.  

All I have done is show the truth about the asshole that you support to be president of the United States.  You are the one with the problem. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @9.3.8    4 years ago

Your'e welcome

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
9.3.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.4    4 years ago

Vic, when Trump says he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose a vote, he is thinking of you. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.3.12  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.9    4 years ago

No problems here.   None at all.     I’m so happy these days I could be whistling zippity do da day out my rear end

Life is good John, sorry you appear to not be enjoying it.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
9.3.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.7    4 years ago
Progressive = Fascist in training

What total bullshit. Apparently you've either forgotten or never learned what fascism actually is.

Fascism: noun - a political philosophy, movement, or regime that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.

The white nationalism and support for the wannabe dictator dishonest Donald are far closer to the definition of fascism than progressives who want justice and equality for all.

"(Kim Jong Un) speaks and his people sit up at attention,I want my people to do the same." - Donald J Trump

“Anybody wants to come in. Dictators? It’s OK. Come on in. Whatever’s good for the United States. We want to help our people,” - Donald J Trump

“With all of the Fake News coming out of NBC and the Networks, at what point is it appropriate to challenge their License?” - Donald J Trump

Most Trump supporters = experienced fascists.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.11    4 years ago
when Trump says he could shoot someone in the middle of Fifth Avenue and not lose a vote, he is thinking of you. 

But John, the people he really hooked with that one were people like you. You have quoted that line many times. It really got to you. It's like when Barak Obama called his grandmother "a typical white person." I could never dismiss it

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.3.13    4 years ago

Could you give us the link where your definition came from?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.3.16  Ender  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.11    4 years ago

512

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.3.17  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.14    4 years ago

The shooting folks on 5th avenue quote is like the "Trump loves the poorly educated"--like Democrats don't or something?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @9.3.17    4 years ago

They can quote him verbatim. Iv'e never seen anything like it. It's even beyond the people who like to quote the Bible. Progressives will be forever linked to Donald Trump!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.3.19  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.3.13    4 years ago

Ah but history tells us a different story.

Historically speaking Fascism has been a type hyper nationalism that rejects individual liberty.    Rejecting individual liberty?    That’s progressive territory not conservative.

Fascism has usually been hostile to religion.    More progressive territory not conservative.  

Mussolini, arguably the original Fascist, more or less invented the totalitarism of Fascism.     Working towards a society where everybody belonged, where everyone was taken care of, where everything was inside the state and nothing was outside of the state.     Sounds like a progressive to me

The only BS here is the supposition that progressives can’t have fascist tendencies.    They can and do.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
9.3.20  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.10    4 years ago

'Your'e welcome

For what?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.3.21  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.19    4 years ago
Historically speaking Fascism has been a type hyper nationalism

And which side is promoting hyper nationalism....

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
9.3.22  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.15    4 years ago
Could you give us the link where your definition came from?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.23  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.3.22    4 years ago

Thanks

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
9.3.25  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ender @9.3.21    4 years ago
And which side is promoting hyper nationalism....

Sadly, they're apparently not able to self reflect. Many are the blind, stuffed in a sack of stupid shoved inside dishonest Donald's voluminous rectum. They're like a Trumpduckin...

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.3.26  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @9.3.21    4 years ago

That’s largely fabricated in the TDS ridden mind but give me call when a brown shirt knocks on your door.    I’ll be the first person there to defend you.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.3.27  Sparty On  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.3.25    4 years ago

Sadly The TDS ridden just can’t seem to shake the butthurt.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.28  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @9.3.21    4 years ago

Nationalism is best described as an identification with one's own nation and support for its interests, especially to the exclusion or detriment of the interests of other nations.

Does anyone want to debate that?

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
9.3.29  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.3.25    4 years ago
Sadly, they're apparently not able to self reflect.

I need help ! jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

Tell us how YOU do it ? jrSmiley_32_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.3.30  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.26    4 years ago
Nationalism and patriotism both show the relationship of an individual towards his or her nation. The two are often confused and frequently believed to mean the same thing. However, there is a vast difference between nationalism and patriotism.

Nationalism means to give more importance to unity by way of a cultural background, including language and heritage. Patriotism pertains to the love for a nation, with more emphasis on values and beliefs.

When talking about nationalism and patriotism, one cannot avoid the famous quotation by   George Orwell , who said that nationalism is ‘the worst enemy of peace’. According to him, nationalism is a feeling that one’s country is superior to another in all respects, while patriotism is merely a feeling of admiration for a way of life. These concepts show that patriotism is passive by nature and nationalism can be a little aggressive.

Patriotism is based on affection and nationalism is rooted in rivalry and resentment. One can say that nationalism is militant by nature and patriotism is based on peace.

Most nationalists assume that their country is better than any other, whereas patriots believe that their country is one of the best and can be improved in many ways. Patriots tend to believe in friendly relations with other countries while some nationalists don’t.

In patriotism, people all over the world are considered equal but   nationalism   implies that only the people belonging to one’s own country should be considered one’s equal.

A patriotic person tends to tolerate criticism and tries to learn something new from it, but a nationalist cannot tolerate any criticism and considers it an insult.

Nationalism makes one to think only of one’s country’s virtues and not its deficiencies. Nationalism can also make one contemptuous of the virtues of other nations. Patriotism, on the other hand, pertains to value responsibilities rather than just valuing loyalty towards one’s own country.

Nationalism makes one try to find justification for mistakes made in the past, while patriotism enables people to understand both the shortcomings and improvements made.

Summary:

Patriot: Expresses the emotion of love towards his country in a passive way

Nationalist: Strives for independence and the interests and domination of a nation and expresses his love or concern for the country in an active political way.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.31  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @9.3.30    4 years ago

Obviously, that is an opinion piece. Can we have a link?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.3.32  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.3.31    4 years ago

Yes it is an opinion. Imo a very accurate one.

Link is first word.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
9.3.33  Sparty On  replied to  Ender @9.3.30    4 years ago
9.3.19
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
9.3.34  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @9.3.32    4 years ago
Yes it is an opinion.

I was wondering why you wouldn't simply return to Merriam-Webster, which gives a contrast of Patriotism vs Nationalism. BTW nobody here seems to think they are one in the same.

Imo a very accurate one.

Actually it puts Nationalism in a negative light. I wonder why?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
9.3.35  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  It Is ME @9.3.29    4 years ago
Tell us how YOU do it ?

It's not that hard. Just take a deep breathe, accept that Bill Clinton was a lying scum bag adulterer like many politicians, which in no way excuses other lying scum bag adulterers like dishonest Donald. Realize that you don't have to take sides, you can condemn them both as both are reprehensible bastards. Try and understand that you are the only one who should get to decide your own standards of morality, don't let others make those decisions for you, whether coming from the left or the right. Stop letting yourself be manipulated into defending worthless scum bags like Avenatti, Trump or Clinton due to some desperate desire to belong to one side or another. Condemn bullshit wherever it may rear its stinky brown head.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
9.3.36  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.3.35    4 years ago

So....Relax....Breath....and Not look at politics as a "Personal" thing, but look at "Politics" as a "Policy" thing ?

I think I've been doing that all this time. jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

How 'bout You ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
9.3.37  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  It Is ME @9.3.36    4 years ago
I think I've been doing that all this time

That's truly funny. I've been reading your comments for about two years now and I've never once gotten that impression.

 
 
 
It Is ME
Masters Guide
9.3.38  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.3.37    4 years ago
I've been reading your comments for about two years now and I've never once gotten that impression.

Soooooo…. you've read that I've been worried about Trumps "Past" personal Life, his "Tweets", and his demeanor as  President ?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
9.3.39  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    4 years ago
When was the last time you saw a "progressive" bringing up Avenatti?  A year ago?

The leftists are the ones who are being embarrassed by following fake and frivolous follies.

Everything they try blows up in the faces. Did you know that even if Trump was removed from office///

that he could legally run for reelection. .

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
9.3.40  KDMichigan  replied to  Ender @9.3.16    4 years ago

Yeah cute meme of something he never said, Isn't that a Nazi tactic, repeat a lie enough times until people actually start to believe it?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.3.41  Ender  replied to  KDMichigan @9.3.40    4 years ago

Why not? republicans do it all the time.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
Professor Quiet
9.4  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @9    4 years ago
The world has moved on from Michael Avenatti, quite a while ago actually. 

Then why is he still in the news?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
11  Tessylo    4 years ago

No one is taking up for him.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
11.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @11    4 years ago

So why are you defending him instead of criticizing him?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
13  Tessylo    4 years ago

Read #12 would indicate that you're taking up for the guy.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
14  author  Vic Eldred    4 years ago

Final thoughts:

Michael Avenatti, got what he deserved. As for the dishonest liberal media, which gave him a platform & promoted him, there have been no consequences. Everything they have done seems to be absolved with a simple retraction/apology.

There were two exceptions. One is CNN which has suffered a dramatic loss of viewership and has made a settlement with Nick Sandman amid other lawsuits.

The other - Fox News which has stood alone, never taken in by Avenatti or the Russia hoax.

Good night all

 
 

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