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In defense of Christian nationalism

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  4 years ago  •  25 comments

By:   Brian Fischer One News Now

In defense of Christian nationalism
I am a Christian nationalist because the Founders were. The Founders established a nation grounded and rooted in Christianity, Christian principles, and a Christian worldview. They enshrined their view of what a Christian nation looks like in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution. While Christian nationalism is condemned and dismissed by some as a thinly disguised form of white supremacy, it is impossible that that could be the case. The ringing declaration of the Founders was...

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America was founded by a Christian people who created a secular government based on Christian principles and a belief in a creator God who authored our human rights.  


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America’s Constitution is shot through with the thinking of Christian statesmen who shared a deep-dyed view of the world, soaked deeply in the Bible. And if you believe in a God who is the Creator of all men who are made in the image and likeness of God, you are a Christian nationalist.

I am a Christian nationalist because the Founders were.

The Founders established a nation grounded and rooted in Christianity, Christian principles, and a Christian worldview. They enshrined their view of what a Christian nation looks like in the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution.

While Christian nationalism is condemned and dismissed by some as a thinly disguised form of white supremacy, it is impossible that that could be the case. The ringing declaration of the Founders was that “all men,” every last one of them, regardless of race or ethnicity, have received certain non-negotiable human rights from their Creator.

The Founders called these rights “inalienable,” which means they are so profound and so basic that no man and no government has the moral authority to take them away. Human beings are “created equal,” and because they have been created by God and have received these rights from God, every government has a sacred duty to protect them.

These rights do not come to men from government but from God. This means no government on the face of the earth has the moral authority to deprive any of its citizens of any one of these rights. Rather, government – every government – has the solemn obligation to use its God-ordained power to safeguard and guarantee and “secure” these rights to their populace.

I use the term “constitutionalist” synonymously with “Christian nationalist,” because our constitution is the constitution of a Christian nation, and could only be the constitution of a Christian nation. Our Constitution is shot through, warp and woof, with the thinking of Christian statesmen who shared a deep-dyed view of the world, soaked deeply in the Bible.

There is a God, the Founders affirm, who is the Creator with a capital “C,” the God who is revealed in the very first verse of the Christian Bible. This God is the Creator of “the heavens and the earth,” everything that exists in the universe. One practical outworking of this foundational truth is that an American constitutionalist must oppose the theory of Darwinian evolution with every fiber of his being. A man cannot affirm the Constitution itself without at the same time standing athwart evolution shouting “Stop!”

The highest expression of His creative power is man. “God created man in his own image, after our likeness” (Genesis 1:26). Man, and not any member of the animal kingdom, is the pinnacle of God’s artistry. He is not an intruder in the environment but rather God’s vice-regent with benevolent authority over everything God has made: “Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth” (Genesis 1:26).

And there is a profound reason civil rights are not granted to animals in the Constitution: they are not, as man is, created in the image of God. All these truths about man are revealed in the first chapter of the Bible and inform and shape our Constitution.

So, my friend, whether you know it or not, if you believe in a God who is the Creator of all men who are made in the image and likeness of God, you are a Christian nationalist. If you believe that our rights come from Him and not from our government, you are a constitutionalist. And you may stand proudly in the lineage of the men who founded our nation and our Constitution upon the Rock. Welcome to the club.



Bryan Fischer hosts “Focal Point with Bryan Fischer” every weekday on AFR Talk ( American Family Radio ) from 1:00 – 2:00 p.m. (Central). He  is author of  The Boy to Man Book: Preparing Your Son for Manhood .




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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

I use the term “constitutionalist” synonymously with “Christian nationalist,” because our constitution is the constitution of a Christian nation, and could only be the constitution of a Christian nation. Our Constitution is shot through, warp and woof, with the thinking of Christian statesmen who shared a deep-dyed view of the world, soaked deeply in the Bible.

There is a God, the Founders affirm, who is the Creator with a capital “C,” the God who is revealed in the very first verse of the Christian Bible. This God is the Creator of “the heavens and the earth,” everything that exists in the universe. One practical outworking of this foundational truth is that an American constitutionalist must oppose the theory of Darwinian evolution with every fiber of his being. A man cannot affirm the Constitution itself without at the same time standing athwart evolution shouting “Stop!”

The highest expression of His creative power is man. “God created man in his own image, after our likeness” (Genesis 1:26). Man, and not any member of the animal kingdom, is the pinnacle of God’s artistry. He is not an intruder in the environment but rather God’s vice-regent with benevolent authority over everything God has made: “Let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth” (Genesis 1:26).

And there is a profound reason civil rights are not granted to animals in the Constitution: they are not, as man is, created in the image of God. All these truths about man are revealed in the first chapter of the Bible and inform and shape our Constitution.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago

America was founded by a moral and just Christian people who created a secular government based on Christian principles and a devout belief in a creator God who authored our human rights and said that no government had a right to take away.  

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.1  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    4 years ago

Guess I gotta drag this out again.

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Gordy327
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1.1.2  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    4 years ago

Demonstrably false. You wont find that idea or notion anywhere in the Constitution. Just the opposite really. I defy you to prove otherwise!

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.2  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago

religious organizations that promote unamerican and unconstitutional ideologies, such as inequality, need to have their tax exempt status permanently revoked.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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2  bbl-1    4 years ago

Christian Nationalism?  Really? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @2    4 years ago

Yes really.  Read the article for a more full understanding of that reality.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
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2.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    4 years ago

I did.  I reiterate.  Christian Nationalism?  Really?  Are we talking Inquisition?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.1    4 years ago

If you really read it, you’d know that that is not remotely what this is about at all.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.1    4 years ago

Where outside of your own mind did you come up with any idea of an inquisition from your reading of the seeded article?  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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2.2  Gordy327  replied to  bbl-1 @2    4 years ago

More like christain dominionism.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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2.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  Gordy327 @2.2    4 years ago

Perhaps.  Except with Dominionism, Inquisition would provide its purity.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

....New York students prayed each day: “Almighty God, we acknowledge our dependence on Thee and beg Thy blessing over us, our parents, our teachers, and our nation.” A benign prayer, perhaps, but it still underscored our belief in God’s providence and sovereignty.

Do we not in the Pledge of Allegiance still say: “One nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all”?

The fact of the matter is that, despite many efforts to remove prayer from our schools and the public square, we cannot remove prayer from the history of the United States.

In 1789, President George Washington made this public proclamation:

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"Whereas, it is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor – and whereas both Houses of Congress have by their joint Committee requested me 'to recommend to the people of the United States a Day of public thanksgiving and prayer, to be observed by acknowledging with grateful hearts the many signal favors of Almighty God’ … I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the People of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being.”

The result of that proclamation was the creation of an event we celebrated a couple of months ago called Thanksgiving. Yet what I find just as remarkable is that the proclamation was ratified by both houses of Congress.

Today our houses are divided like never before, especially with the impeachment proceedings against President Trump. Ironically, the one thing members of both parties in Congress still agree on is to begin their sessions in the House and Senate with an opening prayer.

Can you imagine if they came together and prayed for the future of America? I believe God would hear that prayer and we could have a much-needed healing in America.

Such a prayer wouldn’t be out of character for America.

For one, our Founding Fathers assumed the majority of Americans believed in Jesus, but those who didn’t weren’t treated any differently. This is because our nation was forged out of religious freedom.

And just as America had great Founding Fathers – such as George Washington, John Adams, Thomas Jefferson and Benjamin Franklin – we also had a spiritual Founding Father: a man named George Whitefield.

Whitefield was an evangelist from England who preached the gospel to the colonists. Historians believe that by the time his ministry was completed, 80 percent of the colonists had heard him.

Whitefield’s ministry sparked a spiritual awakening across the 13 colonies. Untold thousands believed, and it was in the soil of virtue and morality that the seeds of liberty could be planted.

Patrick Henry, another Founding Father, is believed to have once remarked: “It cannot be emphasized too strongly or too often that this great nation was founded, not by religionists, but by Christians; not on religions, but on the Gospel of Jesus Christ. For this very reason peoples of other faiths have been afforded asylum, prosperity, and freedom of worship here.”

Sadly, it is the lack of this virtue and morality that is the root of so many of our current problems.

We need more prayer in America today, and not just in our schools, but in our courts, culture and in our personal lives overall. More than 50 percent of Americans pray and believe that God hears and answers those prayers. However, a recent survey revealed that Americans who believe in God or prayer hit an all-time low in 2014.

My hope is that we will remember America was a nation born out of prayer....  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4  Dismayed Patriot    4 years ago
" The Founders established a nation grounded and rooted in Christianity"

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

"While Christian nationalism is condemned and dismissed by some as a thinly disguised form of white supremacy, it is impossible that that could be the case. The ringing declaration of the Founders was that “all men,” every last one of them, regardless of race or ethnicity, have received certain non-negotiable human rights from their Creator."

And yet they all owned slaves. But "that's impossible!" you say? Our founders were full of contradictions.

"The Founders called these rights “inalienable,” which means they are so profound and so basic that no man and no government has the moral authority to take them away."

And yet they were, at that time, taking them away from slaves.

" Jefferson, in his forecast, had anticipated this (slavery), as the "rock upon which the old Union would split." He was right. What was conjecture with him, is now a realized fact. But whether he fully comprehended the great truth upon which that rock stood and stands, may be doubted. The prevailing ideas entertained by him and most of the leading statesmen at the time of the formation of the old Constitution were, that the enslavement of the African was in violation of the laws of nature ; that it was wrong in principle, socially, morally and politically. It was an evil they knew not well how to deal with ; but the general opinion of the men of that day was, that, somehow or other, in the order of Providence, the institution would be evanescent and pass away." - Vice President of the Confederacy Alexander Stephens

" Human beings are “created equal,” and because they have been created by God and have received these rights from God, every government has a sacred duty to protect them."

And yet even today many Republican legislators have tried to disenfranchise minority voters and have been undeniably caught by the courts doing so.

"In its ruling,  the appeals court said  the law was intentionally designed to discriminate against black people."

"North Carolina Republican legislators had requested data on voting patterns by race and, with that data in hand, drafted a law that would "target African-Americans with almost surgical precision," the court said.

These rights do not come to men from government but from God.

The declaration of independence does proclaim a right to declare your own government if you feel the current government " becomes destructive of these ends". However, to do so as they were implying meant getting a majority of Americans to agree with you, not just become a minority insurgent fighting against the current government through violent means. Even if conservatives, as they see it, are backed into the corner by the majority who doesn't really give a shit about their rural problems and wouldn't mind forgetting they even exist, that still doesn't give them the right to fight back violently.

I use the term “constitutionalist” synonymously with “Christian nationalist,” because our constitution is the constitution of a Christian nation

Seriously? WTFart?

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."

"There is a God, the Founders affirm, who is the Creator with a capital “C,” the God who is revealed in the very first verse of the Christian Bible."

OMFartingGoodeness, they did not in any way shape or form. This is some of the most ridiculous nonsense I've ever read. It borders on hysterical.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    4 years ago

Someone didn’t read the Declaration of Independence or any of George Washington’s speeches, proclamations, or prayers.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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4.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.1    4 years ago

And someone else didn't read the writings of James Madison, Thomas Jefferson, or John Adams, not to mention relevant SCOUTS decisions in that regard.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    4 years ago
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January 16 is Religious Freedom Day. It marks the anniversary of the passage of Thomas Jefferson’s Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, the precursor language of our First Amendment guarantee of religious freedom. This American ideal was born on Biblical soil. Freedom is impossible without faith. This is as true today as in the times of our founding. John Adams, the principal author of our Bill of Rights said:

The general principles on which the fathers achieved independence, were … the general principles of Christianity … Now I will avow, that I then believed, and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God; and that those principles of liberty are as unalterable as human nature and our terrestrial, mundane system …

Questions of faith are the questions of life. That is why religious freedom is known as our first freedom, listed first as the First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution. If we lose our religious freedom, we lose our freedoms.

President Donald J. Trump understands this, and he has been a champion of religious freedom since his first day in office. Just today the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) is proposingrules to further implement President Trump’s 2018 Executive Order removing regulatory burdens on religious organizations and ensuring they are treated equally under the law within the agency’s programs.

This is important work that will never get much attention in the mainstream media, but which protects people of faith from being forced to do the government’s bidding when it comes to things that violate their conscience, like abortion — a favorite area where the left wants to force pro-life people to actively engage in supporting.

Yesterday, the Office of Management and Budget (OMB) issued a memo aimed at protecting religious freedom in government grants at all levels. OMB Acting Director Russ Vought (himself a victim of religious discrimination) said, “No longer will faith-based organizations be bullied by the government, which has not done enough to ensure that religious groups are not discriminated against when receiving federal resources.”

The Department of Education is also taking serious steps to protect religious freedom and clarify the First Amendment’s protection of prayer in public schools. Secretary of Education Betsy DeVos said in a statement:

Our actions today will protect the constitutional rights of students, teachers, and faith-based institutions. The Department’s efforts will level the playing field between religious and non-religious organizations competing for federal grants, as well as protect First Amendment freedoms on campus and the religious liberty of faith-based institutions. I proudly share President Trump’s commitment to religious freedom and the First Amendment.

And that is just what the president has done recently. The president has also stood strong against the Johnson Amendment which has been used for decades to try to silence pastors’ political and cultural engagement. He has stood strong against anti-Semitism. He has also promoted religious freedom abroad.

The president issued a proclamationtoday saying:

[W]e reaffirm our commitment to protecting the precious and fundamental right of religious freedom, both at home and abroad.  Our Founders entrusted the American people with a responsibility to protect religious liberty so that our Nation may stand as a bright beacon for the rest of the world.  Today, we remain committed to that sacred endeavor and strive to support those around the world who still struggle under oppressive regimes that impose restrictions on freedom of religion.

Let us continue to pray for the President as he stands for religious freedom and let us support these efforts that are to the benefit of all freedom-loving peoples around the world, not just Christian or religious people.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2    4 years ago

The concerned women for America are exactly right . 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    4 years ago

Whoever said anything about us rural and exurban populations of Heartland America resorting to violence? Did you think that the 2016 election and the revival of middle America was a violent thing?  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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5  Tacos!    4 years ago

Whoever wields power should be moral so that justice and compassion may prevail. So if power is concentrated in a dictator or king, I would want a moral leader. If it is concentrated in the people, be it democracy, republicanism, or communism, then the people should be a moral people. I don’t think this requires that they be Christian. Specific religious dogma seems unnecessary, though I can see why some people would desire it. 

I think the founders saw value in the people being a moral people, but they knew that in reality, they often weren’t. Thus we have a system loaded with checks and balances to protect us all from ourselves.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @5    4 years ago

Well said.  Several founders said our government they created would not survive if we ceased to be a moral people.  

 
 
 
Gordy327
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5.1.1  Gordy327  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    4 years ago
Several founders said our government they created would not survive if we ceased to be a moral people.  

Morality is subjective. 

 
 
 
Drakkonis
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6  Drakkonis    4 years ago

HA, I think you should reconsider about Christian Nationalism. Jesus did not task us with creating political structures. He tasked us with bringing the Good News to everyone. Christian Nationalism is dangerous because it becomes the goal and the focus, not Jesus. It would be a false idol. If Jesus had wanted us to create Christian nations he would have said so. If you really want a Christian nation, you don't do it from the top down. You do it from the bottom up by sharing the Good News and living your life in such a manner as to attract others to Christ. 

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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7  Steve Ott    4 years ago

New excuses for a bad idea

Numerically, the United States is a predominantly Christian nation. That's a factual statement—just like the statement that historically, Christianity has been a major force in our public life. But to call the United States a "Christian nation" is an assertion of ideology, not fact—particularly coming from the same corner that produces efforts to legislate religious beliefs about homosexuality or abortion.

The Republican Party's apparent embrace of such attitudes is troubling. It lends credence to the notion that our war against radical Islamic terrorism is a religious war. And it alienates many Americans who support the Republican values of limited government and strong defense but also regard the separation of church and state as a bedrock American principle, not a "myth."

Conservative Nationalists, Not Immigrants, Are Having Trouble Assimilating in America

That conservatives are preaching a full-scale abandonment of America's bedrock commitments to capitalism, democracy, religious pluralism, and individual liberty shows that even as they accuse immigrants of not assimilating in America, they themselves are dissimilating from America.

The vast majority of immigrants believe in America's fundamental promise. If conservatives don't, then they are the real problem. Immigrants may or may not be increasing littering in America, but conservatives are trashing it.

While christian nationalists may be "constitutionalists" (whatever that may mean) it does not necessarily follow that all "constitutionalists" are christian. Nor does if follow that if you believe in a God who is the Creator of all men who are made in the image and likeness of God, you are a Christian nationalist. That is far too sweeping a statement.

Even the website doesn't really say what it is, only what it is against. And apparently hasn't found anything to be against since 2017. Best I can tell, it simply a few who want to enforce some kind of orthodoxy on the nation, and all I can really say to that is, god help us all.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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7.1  pat wilson  replied to  Steve Ott @7    4 years ago

Amen.

 
 

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