Gabbard suing Clinton for defamation over 'Russian asset' comments

  
Via:  Vic Eldred  •  8 months ago  •  142 comments

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Gabbard suing Clinton for defamation over 'Russian asset' comments
"She's the favorite of the Russians, they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she's also a Russian asset. Yeah, she's a Russian asset, I mean totally. They know they can't win without a third party candidate," Clinton said.

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Rep.  Tulsi Gabbard  (D-Hawaii) is suing  Hillary Clinton  for defamation over the former secretary of state's remarks on a podcast characterizing the Democratic presidential candidate as a Russian asset.

Gabbard filed the defamation lawsuit Wednesday in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York. 

Gabbard’s lawyers allege that Clinton’s comments have “smeared” Gabbard’s “political and personal reputation.” 

“Tulsi Gabbard is a loyal American civil servant who has also dedicated her life to protecting the safety of all Americans,” Gabbard’s lawyer Brian Dunne said in a statement.

“Rep. Gabbard’s presidential campaign continues to gain momentum, but she has seen her political and personal reputation smeared and her candidacy intentionally damaged by Clinton’s malicious and demonstrably false remarks.”

In a podcast recorded in October but released in November, Clinton said she thought Republicans were "grooming" a Democratic presidential candidate for a third-party bid. She also described the candidate as a favorite of the Russians.

Clinton did not name the candidate but it was clear she was speaking about Gabbard.

"They're also going to do third party. I'm not making any predictions, but I think they've got their eye on somebody who's currently in the Democratic primary and are grooming her to be the third-party candidate," Clinton said.

"She's the favorite of the Russians, they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she's also a Russian asset. Yeah, she's a Russian asset, I mean totally. They know they can't win without a third party candidate," Clinton said.

Stein was the Green Party candidate in the 2016 presidential election. Stein said the idea she is a Russian asset is an unhinged conspiracy theory in an  op-ed for the Guardian.


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Vic Eldred
1  seeder  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

Finally people are being held accountable for smearing others


Rules of civility apply

Trump is completely off topic

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    8 months ago

Hilarious. As if any judge wouldn't throw this thing out on the face of it. I'm no fan of Hillary and personally think she should go hide in a closet for a few years, but this is just stupid.

"Clinton did not name the candidate"

Yeah, that's kind of key when claiming "defamation".

To claim that it was "clear" who she was talking about is a bunch of malarkey. This is beyond spurious. As if Tulsi could win some damages, which she can't actually prove, on what amounts to someone skirting the CoC. It's ridiculous. Anyone thinking this will lead to some sort of accountability are delusional. This is just a desperate attempt for Tulsi to rally centrist Republicans who hate Hillary but dislike Trump as well but can't see themselves voting for a Bernie or Warren.

 
 
 
Sunshine
1.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    8 months ago
To claim that it was "clear" who she was talking about is a bunch of malarkey.

Who was she talking about?

"She's the favorite of the Russians, they have a bunch of sites and bots and other ways of supporting her so far, and that's assuming Jill Stein will give it up, which she might not, because she's also a Russian asset. Yeah, she's a Russian asset, I mean totally. They know they can't win without a third party candidate," Clinton said.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    8 months ago
Anyone thinking this will lead to some sort of accountability are delusional.

Didn't they say the same of Nick Sandman?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sunshine @1.1.1    8 months ago
Who was she talking about?

Well, from a legal perspective, it could have been any of the women still running at that time.

Can you prove it was Tulsi she was referencing? Because her lawyer is going to have to do that if they have even a smidgen of chance of not getting thrown out on their ear. Jill Stein actually has a better case than Tulsi which is why this is even more hilarious.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    8 months ago
Didn't they say the same of Nick Sandman?

I have no clue who "they" are or who Nick Sandman is, I guess I'll have to look him up.

Looked him up. Nick Sandmann, the student the Covington case. Obviously, that case was fairly clear since CNN went too far before getting all the facts and were using his name and image. That's quite far from the Tulsi lawsuit.

 
 
 
Sunshine
1.1.5  Sunshine  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.3    8 months ago
Well, from a legal perspective,

Well I guess they can bring Hillary in and ask her, should clear things up. jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sunshine
1.1.7  Sunshine  replied to    8 months ago
She is the master of senility,

True, she will say it was herself. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.9  Tessylo  replied to    8 months ago

Prove it!

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.1.10  Tacos!  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    8 months ago

They don’t seem to be denying it real hard. Hillary’s spokesman confirmed it at the time.

Tulsi Gabbard files $50 million defamation suit against Hillary Clinton over "Russian asset" comment

The day after the episode aired, Clinton's spokesman Nick Merrill was pressed about whether the comments were about Gabbard and replied, "If the nesting doll fits."
 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.11  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.10    8 months ago

So neither Hillary or her spokesman actually used her name, but we're to "assume" that's who she meant?

Besides, Tulsi has as much evidence that she was damaged by Hillary's 'skirting of the CoC' as we have the Russian propaganda effected the 2016 election. While some may say "Well just look at the numbers that dropped right after Russia released all those stolen emails", but that's not enough to actually conclusively prove causality. I do believe Russian meddling had an effect, but I know I can't prove it without being able to bring in tens of thousands of witnesses who absolutely confirm they were for Hillary until they saw the leaked emails or some Russian bot ads. Same with Tulsi, she's going to have to prove in court that she was actually politically, financially, emotionally or physically harmed by Hillary's non-specific comments that did not actually name her. That is going to be an impossible lift, which is why it's obvious this is just a grab for attention. Even the amount they are suing for makes it clear this is nothing but an appeal to Hillary haters. I have to give her credit though, it obviously worked. Look at how many of you are jumping to her defense, it's hilarious.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to    8 months ago
And she would be right, Hers was the only campaign that worked with Russia in the last election, there is documented proof of this.

It's really sad to see some are still so delusional. I have to assume you're still waiting for them to excavate under the pizza parlor because you just "know!" there's a sex dungeon down there, right? But all that's really off topic isn't it, just more deflect and distract.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1    8 months ago

What the right wants from Tulsi Gabbard is that she run for president as an independent.  That is where their interest in her begins and ends. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.15  Tessylo  replied to    8 months ago

GOP operatives were the ones that contacted and contracted Steele to glean foreign intel on Trump.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.10    8 months ago

'The day after the episode aired, Clinton's spokesman Nick Merrill was pressed about whether the comments were about Gabbard and replied, "If the nesting doll fits."

That doesn't say that Hillary named Gabbard.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.10    8 months ago
'The day after the episode aired, Clinton's spokesman Nick Merrill was pressed about whether the comments were about Gabbard and replied, "If the nesting doll fits."

So it was untrue when you said her spokesman confirmed it then.

Got it!

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.11    8 months ago
'Same with Tulsi, she's going to have to prove in court that she was actually politically, financially, emotionally or physically harmed by Hillary's non-specific comments that did not actually name her. That is going to be an impossible lift, which is why it's obvious this is just a grab for attention. Even the amount they are suing for makes it clear this is nothing but an appeal to Hillary haters. I have to give her credit though, it obviously worked. Look at how many of you are jumping to her defense, it's hilarious.'

Right on the money there DP, as usual.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.19  Dismayed Patriot  replied to    8 months ago
Only the most ignorant don't know this.

Hilarious. So a MotherJones story a week before the election that doesn't actually release the Steele dossier, just hints of it's existence. It said "A Veteran Spy Has Given the FBI Information Alleging a Russian Operation to Cultivate Donald Trump". That's all you've got? That's why you believe Hillary worked with the Russians? Wow, that's pretty sad. I almost feel sorry for you.

It's funny to see some cling to this as some evidence that Hillary tried to sway the election with the Steele dossier which wasn't actually made public till January 2017, long after the election, while they completely ignore, deflect and distract from the actual known campaign by the Russians to get dishonest Donald elected. Russia illegally hacked US voter databased in 22 States, they hacked private US citizens and stole emails and released them publicly with the intent of hurting the party they didn't want to win the 2016 election because they believed it would be to their benefit to get Trump elected. They spent $1.25 million a month in fake ads that looked like they were domestic social media but were just regurgitating Russian State media propaganda. Putin himself admitted he used Russian government assets to assist dirty Donald in the campaign.

“President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?” 

“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.” - slimy piece of shit murderer Vladimir Putin July 18, 2018

To continue to deny the facts and evidence of obvious Russian aid to dirty Donald while clinging to some thread of conspiracy so that you can continue your hate for "the left" is just sad and borders on insanity.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.21  Tessylo  replied to    8 months ago

Speaking of delusional . . . . . 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.1.23  Dismayed Patriot  replied to    8 months ago
Steele was paid by Hillary to work with the Russians....PERIOD!

More nonsensical bullshit. Steele was paid, initially by Republicans and later by the Clinton campaign, to gather intel on the Russians and their numerous contacts and connections to the Trump campaign. The fact that you're trying to twist and distort this is proof your claims are nothing but hilariously unfounded fantasy conspiracy theories most likely provided to you through dishonest right wing media who got it from their surreptitious masters at RT and Sputnik. You're still swimming in Putin's manufactured delusion and it's really getting sad to watch.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.24  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.19    8 months ago
“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.”

You mean like a reset button?  Or ignoring the invasion of Crimea or refusing to arm the Ukraine because Russia was needed for an Iran deal?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.25  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.1.23    8 months ago
Steele was paid, initially by Republicans

He was never paid by Republicans! 

Prove it!

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.26  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.25    8 months ago

You  need to disprove it Vic.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.28  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.26    8 months ago

You made the claim - BACK IT UP!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
1.1.29  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.25    8 months ago
He was never paid by Republicans!

This is a good example of how pervasive fake news is among progressives.  That Steele was hired by the DNC/Clinton's through Fusion GPS in  June of 2016  has been proven countless times on this site. A two second Google search will confirm that from mainstream  liberal sources. But some dishonest progressives liked the talking point that Steele was hired by Republicans so much  they conflated two projects and ignored the inconvenient fact that Steele wasn't hired until June, after  the Republican project ended. They rightly trusted their gullible readers wouldn't look at the underlying facts and a lie was born.  It's kept alive on trashy far left sites to be repeated ad nauseam by people who get their news from left wing clickbait.  The lie is so pervasive that it's reached the tipping point where the devoted progressives simply parrot it without thinking about it.  They think it must be true because so many progressives believe it to be.

You can prove he wasn't paid by Republicans today and tomorrow someone here will claim he was. The truth is really irrelevant to them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.30  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.29    8 months ago
The truth is really irrelevant to them. 

They conflated two seperate things and they did that long ago. They just latch onto a talking point and they keep repeating it over & over.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.32  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.28    8 months ago

No, you told DP to Prove it!  

You need to disprove it.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.33  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.32    8 months ago

Listen to yourself

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.1.34  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.17    8 months ago

"If the nesting doll fits" is a clearly Russian spin on "if the shoe fits."

You don't understand that idiom, eh? OK, back to school time, I guess. From Merriam-Webster (famous publisher of dictionaries . . . you do know what a dictionary, is, I hope)

if the shoe fits

idiom
variants: or if the shoe fits, wear it

Definition of if the shoe fits

US
used to say that something said or suggested about a person is true and that the person should accept it as true"Are you calling me a cheater?" "Well, if the shoe fits, wear it."
Get it now?
 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.35  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @1.1.34    8 months ago

I know/knew exactly what it meant.

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Kathleen
2  Kathleen    8 months ago

Sometimes words can come back and bite you in the ass.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3  Tessylo    8 months ago

Truth isn't defamation.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3    8 months ago

Are you going to prove that Gabbard is a Russian asset?

I'm all ears!

 
 
 
Tacos!
3.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @3    8 months ago

Truth is a defense to a defamation charge, but you have to actually supply some. Just calling it “truth” doesn’t make it so.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @3.2    8 months ago

Just saying it's not so, doesn't make it not so.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
3.2.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.1    8 months ago

We’re all just giddy with excitement because we can’t wait for you to bring out your “truth” that Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  Tacos! @3.2.2    8 months ago
We’re all just giddy with excitement because we can’t wait for you to bring out your “truth” that Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset. 

Best load up on supplies.

That is going to be one HELL of a long wait.

 
 
 
Sparty On
4  Sparty On    8 months ago

She better get her kit ready to defend herself and i'm not talking about in court

 
 
 
evilgenius
5  evilgenius    8 months ago

No one cares about these two except Russian bots and propaganda mongers.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilgenius @5    8 months ago

You obviously care because you are emulating Clinton and smearing all of us.

 
 
 
evilgenius
5.1.1  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    8 months ago
You obviously care because you are emulating Clinton and smearing all of us.

No, just looking to see which propaganda monger is busy today. Two faced muckrakers keep saying they want Clinton to go away, but then keep bringing her up every time she farts. It's sad.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2  Tessylo  replied to  evilgenius @5    8 months ago
'No one cares about these two except Russian bots and propaganda mongers.'

BINGO!

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2.2  Tessylo  replied to    8 months ago

Lying corrupt bitch, this seed isn't about the 'president'.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  evilgenius @5    8 months ago
No one cares about these two except Russian bots and propaganda mongers.

Boom chakalaka!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6  JohnRussell    8 months ago

I think Clinton would probably win this suit, although I personally couldnt care less. 

Tulsi Gabbard is an interesting personality. She is said to be very ambitious, and has a background that includes being a member in what is described as a religious cult . 

I think she falls into that part of the political spectrum occupied by people like Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and Glenn Greenwald.  In other words , anti-establishment , but neither strictly speaking liberal or conservative.  It is the politics of personal ego. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago
I think Clinton would probably win this suit

Don't forget CNN settled with Sandman.

I think she falls into that part of the political spectrum occupied by people like Edward Snowden, Julian Assange, and Glenn Greenwald.  In other words , anti-establishment , but neither strictly speaking liberal or conservative. 

I'd call her a moderate. 

Obviously, Clinton was petrified of Gabbard running as an independent. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    8 months ago

I'd call her a Russian asset, not a moderate.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.1    8 months ago

Of course, you can't defend that slur

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.1    8 months ago
I'd call her a

Yes, you’d call her whatever Hillary told you call her. Clearly.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.3    8 months ago

Nonsense.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
6.2  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago
Tulsi Gabbard is an interesting personality. She is said to be very ambitious, and has a background that includes being a member in what is described as a religious cult

Tulsi Gabbard is a member of a religious cult, JR?  She is a Hindu. Hinduism is one of the dominant religions in the world. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.3  Tacos!  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago
She is said to be very ambitious

Uh. So?

and has a background that includes being a member in what is described as a religious cult

Boy you will say anything about someone who's not 100% on board with you politically, huh? Religious cult?

 
 
 
Jasper2529
6.3.1  Jasper2529  replied to  Tacos! @6.3    8 months ago
Religious cult?

John is referring to her early childhood upbringing in the Science of Identity Foundation. He omitted that Tulsi Gabbard has been a Hindu since she was a teenager.

Gabbard was raised in a multicultural household. [25] [26]   She is of mixed ethnicity, including Asian, Polynesian, and Caucasian descent. [27]   Her mother was born in   Indiana   and grew up in   Michigan . [28]   Her father was born in   American Samoa   and lived in Hawaii and Florida as a child; [23] [29]   he is of   Samoan   and European ancestry. [30] Gabbard grew up in the   Science of Identity Foundation   community [31]   and fully embraced the  Hindu  faith as a teenager. [21] [32] [33]  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsi_Gabbard

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.3.2  Tacos!  replied to  Jasper2529 @6.3.1    8 months ago
John is referring to her early childhood upbringing in the Science of Identity Foundation. He omitted that Tulsi Gabbard has been a Hindu since she was a teenager.

How is any of that either 1) her fault or 2) relevant to her deserving respect today?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7  1stwarrior    8 months ago

Hillary is starting to get more vocal about the "candidates" - she doesn't "trust" Sanders - Gabbard is a Russian asset.

Her house is going to start falling with her open mouth and closed mind over just the elections.  Wonder why?  Could it be that she's trying to prove that she's still relevant in the political world?

Lady, you've not got it anymore - learn from that.

 
 
 
Tacos!
8  Tacos!    8 months ago

It’s about time someone started pushing back on this crap. Gabbard has done nothing to deserve that kind of accusation. If the other candidates had a little more integrity, they would have said something.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9  XDm9mm    8 months ago

I'm waiting for Clinton to cry "we not only left the White House broke, but in debt!"

Well Hilly, by the time Tulsi is finished with you, you just might be in debt yet one more time.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
9.1  Tacos!  replied to  XDm9mm @9    8 months ago

Next, it’ll be that she lost the 2016 election because of something Tulsi Gabbard did.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tacos! @9.1    8 months ago
Next, it’ll be that she lost the 2016 election because of something Tulsi Gabbard did.

I think Clinton made that implication by referencing Jill Stein, who did run as a third party candidate in 2016!  That's why she linked them.

 
 
 
Texan1211
9.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.1    8 months ago

Always cracks me up when people start whining about third party candidates. Like giving people more choices is what cost Abuela.

Sounds like more people with a brain who realized Abuela wasn't good for the country.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.1.3  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.2    8 months ago

Of the many people who still can't come to grips with Trump's 2016 victory, Hillary Clinton marks every single person or event that might have cost her that election. Ironically, the forces she unleashed to defeat Trump still haunt us all to this very day.

 
 
 
Sunshine
9.1.4  Sunshine  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.3    8 months ago
Hillary Clinton marks every single person or event that might have cost her that election. I

She will go to her grave a bitter old person.

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.3    8 months ago
'Ironically, the forces she unleashed to defeat Trump still haunt us all to this very day.'

What 'forces' were those?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.5    8 months ago

The Steele Dossier and all that flowed out of it

 
 
 
Kathleen
9.1.7  Kathleen  replied to  Sunshine @9.1.4    8 months ago

She was devastated over the election loss. Something she will never get over. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.6    8 months ago

GOP operatives were the ones that contacted and contracted Steele to glean foreign intel on Trump.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
9.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.8    8 months ago
GOP operatives were the ones that contacted and contracted Steel to glean foreign intel on Trump.

And then dropped it only to be picked up by Mrs. Clinton's campaign.

You must have timed out with your comment but it's okay. It was easy to finish and help you out. You're welcome.

And no they did NOT contact Steele. It was Fusion GPS that he "worked" for that the Clinton campaign contacted after it basically garnered no interest by the GOP "operatives".

 
 
 
r.t..b...
9.1.10  r.t..b...  replied to  Kathleen @9.1.7    8 months ago
Something she will never get over.

Agreed. Time to cut your losses, step off the stage and focus on your grandchildren. The Clinton name, agree or disagree, is now toxic in their party's efforts going forward...just look how often it is invoked in justifying the current administration's escapades, right down to defining the Senate rules in this 'trial'.

 
 
 
Ender
9.1.11  Ender  replied to  r.t..b... @9.1.10    8 months ago

What gets me is just when I think she faded into the background she brings herself right back on to the stage. She refuses to fade gracefully into the night.

 
 
 
pat wilson
9.1.12  pat wilson  replied to  Ender @9.1.11    8 months ago

She needs to get TFO

 
 
 
r.t..b...
9.1.13  r.t..b...  replied to  Ender @9.1.11    8 months ago
What gets me is just when I think she faded into the background she brings herself right back on to the stage

I think Kathleen hit the nail on the head in saying losing to trump, destined to become the nadir of presidential candidates and administrations, was incomprehensible to her...and thus the selfish need to cast aspersion on everyone and everything.

 
 
 
Kathleen
9.1.14  Kathleen  replied to  r.t..b... @9.1.10    8 months ago

Hi rtb, 

That’s what I was thinking, she should spend her golden years with her family. She should stay out of politics ( retire completely) and enjoy the time she has left.

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1.9    8 months ago

You didn't help me in any way.  You never have, never will.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.1.16  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.8    8 months ago
GOP operatives were the ones that contacted and contracted Steele to glean foreign intel on Trump.

False...Prove it!

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.17  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.16    8 months ago

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Ender
12  Ender    8 months ago

So taking a play from Nunes...

Funny that the right wing use to be for tort reform and tamping down on frivolous lawsuits. Now they cheer on any, everyone suing.

 
 
 
Tessylo
13  Tessylo    8 months ago

Funny how Gabbard wasn't named but she is assuming it's about her.  Must be true.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
13.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @13    8 months ago
Funny how Gabbard wasn't named but she is assuming it's about her.

Oh ya, Clinton was talking about someone else/s

 
 
 
Tacos!
13.2  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @13    8 months ago

Hillary’s spokesman confirmed it at the time.

 
 
 
Tessylo
13.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @13.2    8 months ago

No he didn't.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
13.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @13.2.1    8 months ago
In a recent interview, Clinton didn't mention Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard of Hawaii by name, but said she believes one candidate is "the favorite of the Russians."  Asked if the former secretary of state was referring to Gabbard, Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill said, "If the nesting doll fits..." He later tweeted that Clinton was referring to the GOP grooming Gabbard, not Russians.

Excellent walk back. Must have found his suicide note on his computer. Point remains.. and then...........

"From the day I announced my candidacy, there has been a concerted campaign to destroy my reputation. We wondered who was behind it and why. Now we know — it was always you, through your proxies and powerful allies in the corporate media and war machine, afraid of the threat I pose," she added in subsequent tweets, challenging the 2016 Democratic nominee to enter the 2020 race.
"It is now clear that this primary is between you and me. Don't cowardly hide behind your proxies. Join the race directly," the congresswoman tweeted.
Merrill responded within minutes, saying, "Divisive language filled with vitriol and conspiracy theories? Can’t imagine a better proof point than this."

Thus basically admitting that she was the one. And then the walk back..........again.

CORRECTION (Oct. 24, 2019: 11:50 a.m. ET): An earlier version of this article mischaracterized Clinton's remark about a Democratic candidate being groomed to be a third-party candidate, an apparent reference to Gabbard. A close reading of Clinton's remark indicates that she was referring to Republicans as doing the grooming, not Russians. This interpretation was confirmed by a Clinton aide. The article and the headline have been changed to reflect this interpretation. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/hillary-clinton-says-russia-grooming-3rd-party-candidate-u-s-n1068786
 
 
 
Tessylo
13.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @13.2.2    8 months ago

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bbl-1
14  bbl-1    8 months ago

The most interesting thing about being a 'Russian Asset' is the fact that many are unaware of being used.  Not always though, ask the Kurds and how a Russian asset was used on them.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
15  Dean Moriarty    8 months ago

I'm not fan of Clinton but support protecting freedom of speech. I don't like the idea that one can be sued for speaking their mind. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
15.1  bbl-1  replied to  Dean Moriarty @15    8 months ago

Agree.  Unless the 'speaker' is fomenting lies or untruths knowingly.  Can not accept that lie speech is free speech.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
15.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bbl-1 @15.1    8 months ago
knowingly

Very true. Not only would Tulsi have to prove Hillary meant her when she made her comment, and that she was personally, provably damaged by the comments, she'd also have to prove Hillary knowingly made false statements against her. The entire civil claim is ridiculous and completely without merit, intended only for half wits and morons who foam at the mouth with hatred toward Hillary and believe every lie they've ever heard about her. Tulsi is just making a grab for those centrist Republicans who hate Hillary with a passion but can also no longer stomach dishonest Donald, but can't see themselves voting for a Bernie or Warren.

 
 
 
Ender
15.2  Ender  replied to  Dean Moriarty @15    8 months ago

Agreed.

Ok, third time this month I voted up a conservative.   Haha

It is starting to seem like people that willingly want to be in the public eye think they should be shielded from criticism.

 
 
 
Sparty On
15.3  Sparty On  replied to  Dean Moriarty @15    8 months ago
I don't like the idea that one can be sued for speaking their mind. 

That horse left the barn long long ago.  

Tort reform is needed very badly in the US but as long as congress if full of lawyers, it ain't gonna happen.

And that's all she wrote .....

 
 
 
Split Personality
16  Split Personality    8 months ago
“Rep. Gabbard’s presidential campaign continues to gain momentum...

Straight to dead last or next to last in almost every poll. Hovered between 1 and 2% now 0% on many polls.

She had her shot on the big stage and failed to rally Democrats or even Republicans

with her comments.  But.....Hillary!!!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
16.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @16    8 months ago

What does Gabbard's poll numbers have to do with the article?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
16.1.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @16.1    8 months ago
What does Gabbard's poll numbers have to do with the article?

It has everything to do with it. She is clearly blaming Hillary for her polling numbers and whatever else she can throw out there.

Gabbard’s lawyers allege that Clinton’s comments have “smeared” Gabbard’s “political and personal reputation.” 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
16.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @16.1.1    8 months ago
She is clearly blaming Hillary for her polling numbers and whatever else she can throw out there.

Oh, is that what it is? Then she must think that the Clinton statement had a retroactive effect since her polling numbers have been like that for a while.


Gabbard’s lawyers allege that Clinton’s comments have “smeared” Gabbard’s “political and personal reputation.” 

Being called a "Russian asset" would have that effect

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
16.1.3  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @16.1.2    8 months ago
Then she must think that the Clinton statement had a retroactive effect since her polling numbers have been like that for a while.

Then it seems a little silly to sue since her numbers had nowhere to go but up.

 
 
 
Split Personality
16.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @16.1.3    8 months ago

Yep, she needed any attention, good or bad.  But she couldn't turn a pig's ear into a silk purse, eh?

Instead she files a lawsuit ala Devin Nunes. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
16.1.5  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @16.1.2    8 months ago
Being called a "Russian asset" would have that effect

Good grief man, were you this sympathetic when Mr. Trump attacked one GOP primary candidate after another

with insults.  Were you supportive of Mr trump attacking Ted Cruz's father and Mrs. Cruz let alone attacking Ted personally?

“How can Ted Cruz be an Evangelical Christian when he lies so much and is so dishonest?” “You are the single biggest liar. You probably are worse than Jeb Bush,” Trump told Cruz at a primary debate on Feb. 13. “Nasty guy. Now I know why he doesn’t have one endorsement from any of his colleagues.”

Eventually Ted & Donald made up, wrote it all off to nasty politics.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
16.1.6  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @16.1.3    8 months ago
Then it seems a little silly to sue since her numbers had nowhere to go but up.

Then maybe your theory doesn't make sense.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
16.1.7  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @16.1.4    8 months ago
Yep, she needed any attention, good or bad. 

Well Bernie Sanders doesn't need any attention - he's a contender and what did Hillary recently say about him?

"You know, basically, [the Russians] were like, hey, let's do everything we can to elect Donald Trump," Hillary explained to Stern. "Those are words. And they also said Bernie Sanders, but, you know, that's for another day."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronsonstocking/2019/12/05/hillary-clinton-hints-bernie-sanders-might-be-a-russian-asset-n2557570

"He was in Congress for years. He had one senator support him," Clinton said in the four-part documentary,  according to The Hollywood Reporter.  "Nobody likes him, nobody wants to work with him, he got nothing done. He was a career politician. It's all just baloney, and I feel so bad that people got sucked into it."

https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton-nobody-likes-my-wife-likes-me-2020-1


Any theories on that?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
16.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Split Personality @16    8 months ago

You may not want to tout those figures very much as, if her true conviction is to become POTUS is there, she just may well run as an Indie. I suggest the left pay attention to that fact. They may drive her inadvertently into doing just that.

 
 
 
Split Personality
16.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @16.2    8 months ago

And that, friend Just Jim, is exactly what Clinton predicted would happen, isn't it?

3rd parties bled off 6% of the electorate, over 7 million votes and 7 EC votes in 2016.

Gabbard recently announced she would not seek a 5th term in the House in order to focus on the primary race

( or a 3rd party run )

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
16.2.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Split Personality @16.2.1    8 months ago
And that, friend Just Jim, is exactly what Clinton predicted would happen, isn't it?

Oh, what a genius?  She must be...to walk away from so many scandals unscathed!

Too bad the genius called half the country "deplorable"

 
 
 
Split Personality
16.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @16.2.2    8 months ago

Too bad the genius called half the country "deplorable"

Wrong again. I guess that's what "identity politics" is all about, friend Vic,

“You know, to just be grossly generalistic, you could put half of Trump’s supporters into what I call the basket of deplorables. Right?” Clinton said. “The racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic—you name it. And unfortunately there are people like that. And he has lifted them up.”

She said the other half of Trump’s supporters “feel that the government has let them down” and are “desperate for change.”

https://time.com/4486502/hillary-clinton-basket-of-deplorables-transcript/

So, no, not half of the country, probably not even half of a half of the country did she besmirch,

but it appears that many more were butthurt by the politically inept comments.

Present company excluded, of course.

 
 
 
Ronin2
16.2.4  Ronin2  replied to  Split Personality @16.2.3    8 months ago

Unfortunately her supporters picked up the whole stupid "deplorables" comment and used it to describe anyone that supported Trump. She did nothing to correct them; or stop it.

So yes, she did, and does believe that 1/2 the country are "deplorables".

 
 
 
lib50
17  lib50    8 months ago

I wish Hillary had just kept it zipped, but she is free to say what she wants.  I look forward to the lawsuit, getting Tulsi's Russian connections and their fondness for her out there is important for Americans to know about .  Russia likes her for a reason whether she knows about it or not.  The more we all know about it the less likely it is their interference will be effective.  Such as putting their bots on top of her defense on social media.  And into gop talking points.  Exhibit 1:  this seed

Look here, Tulsi has same policies preferences as Putin and Trump.  No wonder they keep pushing her.

https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11/23/tulsi-gabbard-only-democratic-candidate-russia-views-favorably.html

Hawaii congresswoman and 2020 hopeful Tulsi Gabbard is the only Democratic presidential candidate that Russia views favorably, according to new data from the Foreign Policy Research Institute.

Former FBI agent Clint Watts, who led the study, said Gabbard is “a great opportunity” for Russia because her rhetoric is similar to the Kremlin’s, particularly when it comes to U.S. foreign policy .

The data shows that 46 percent of Russian “mentions” of Gabbard were favorable since January, while just 10 percent were unfavorable – by far making her Putin’s favorite Democrat in the race.

Former vice president Joe Biden, on the other hand, appears to be Russia’s least favorite candidate.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/05/20/politics/tulsi-gabbard-fake-news-russia/index.html

Democratic presidential candidate Rep. Tulsi Gabbard on Sunday characterized a recent critical report about her campaign as "fake news," invoking a defense oft-used by President Donald Trump to attack the credibility of negative press coverage.

Appearing on ABC's "This Week," Gabbard was asked about her record on Russia by host George Stephanopoulos, who cited an article published last week by The Daily Beast titled "Tulsi Gabbard's Campaign Is Being Boosted by Putin Apologists."
The piece said her campaign was being "underwritten by some of the nation's leading Russophiles," citing donations from three supporters of the Kremlin and Russian President Vladimir Putin. The piece noted that Gabbard, who represents Hawaii, "is one of her party's more Russia-friendly voices in an era of deep Democratic suspicion of the country over its efforts to tip the 2016 election in favor" of Trump.
"You know, it's unfortunate that you're citing that article, George, because it's a whole lot of fake news," Gabbard said. "What I am focused on is what is in the best interest of the American people. What is in the best interest of our national security. Keeping the American people safe."
The congresswoman did not specify what in the article was "fake." Her campaign did not respond to CNN's request for comment on Monday.
Gabbard's use of the term "fake news" to dismiss the article echoed Trump's repeated use of the term to attack the credibility of negative coverage both he and his administration have received from various outlets.
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
17.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  lib50 @17    8 months ago
Russia likes her for a reason whether she knows about it or not. 

We have so many striving to protect us from Russia. One question: How did John Brennan know that Putin wanted Trump to win?  How did he know what was in Putin's mind?

 
 
 
Split Personality
17.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @17.1    8 months ago
One question: How did John Brennan know that Putin wanted Trump to win?  How did he know what was in Putin's mind?

They have people assigned at every intelligence bureau to watch RT and NTV media. jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
XDm9mm
17.2  XDm9mm  replied to  lib50 @17    8 months ago
I wish Hillary had just kept it zipped,

Never gonna happen....  at least as long as she has a breath in her body anyway.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
18  Jasper2529    8 months ago
In a podcast recorded in October but released in November, Clinton said she thought Republicans were "grooming" a Democratic presidential candidate for a third-party bid. She also described the candidate as a favorite of the Russians.

It seems that every few months, Hillary needs to insert herself into the headlines, because she still hasn't gotten over the fact that she's a loser.

In 2008, Obama took her out.

In the 2016 race she, along with her complicit DNC (Debbie Wasserman-Schultz and Donna Brazile) and left-wing media, were successful in destroying Bernie's chances, but she still couldn't win the presidency.

In the 2020 race, Hillary's trying to destroy not only Tulsi Gabbard but (again) Bernie Sanders. She even had to walk back her most recent attack on Bernie. What a stupid woman.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
19  JohnRussell    8 months ago

The ONLY reason any conservative or Republican is interested in Tulsi Gabbard is in the hope that she will run for president as an independent and suck a percentage or two of votes away from the Democratic candidate. 

Other than that, they couldnt care less about her. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
19.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @19    8 months ago

That's a fear of Hillary Clinton and establishment democrats. However it is extremely unlikely that Gabbard would run as an independent. I thought she was seeking VP status but I don't think she will be chosen by anyone other than Mike Bloomberg. 

I kind of see her becoming a cable news political analyst after all this is all over.

 
 
 
Ender
19.1.1  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @19.1    8 months ago

I don't see her ever being elected in Hawaii again.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
19.1.2  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ender @19.1.1    8 months ago

Elected? I thought I heard her say she wouldn't run again. I think she knows what she wants to do should she not get a shot at the bottom of the ticket.

 
 
 
Texan1211
19.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @19.1.1    8 months ago
I don't see her ever being elected in Hawaii again.

She isn't running again.

I think Democrats got one good whiff of her sanity and ran the other way.

 
 
 
Ender
19.1.4  Ender  replied to  Vic Eldred @19.1.2    8 months ago

Heard that before, the I am not going to run again. Especially when they know their meal ticket has expired.

 
 
 
Ender
19.1.5  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @19.1.3    8 months ago

Haha

Maybe they got a whiff of all the republican support she is getting and dropped her like a hot potato.

I am sure you all will embrace her into your fold...

 
 
 
Texan1211
19.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @19.1.5    8 months ago
I am sure you all will embrace her into your fold...

Yes, I am sure the GOP would love to have her join it.

Why not?

We are a tolerant bunch, after all.

Why are Democrats so hell-bent on getting her out and calling her a Russian agent or stooge?

 
 
 
Ender
19.1.7  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @19.1.6    8 months ago

I wouldn't say all are.

Imo her suing just puts her in a class with Nunes.

 
 
 
Texan1211
19.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @19    8 months ago
The ONLY reason any conservative or Republican is interested in Tulsi Gabbard is in the hope that she will run for president as an independent and suck a percentage or two of votes away from the Democratic candidate. 

Always cracks me up when people start whining about third party candidates. Like giving people more choices is what cost Abuela.

Sounds like more people with a brain who realized Abuela wasn't good for the country.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
19.2.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Texan1211 @19.2    8 months ago

Everyone is trying to figure out what Conservatives or Republicans think. I never realized we would be so influential!

BTW I'm so glad to see the party standing together.

 
 
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