A Memorable State of the Union Address

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  8 months ago  •  266 comments


A Memorable State of the Union Address
“America’s enemies are on the run, America’s fortunes are on the rise, and America’s future is blazing bright,

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Last night President Donald Trump delivered a memorable State of the Union Address. Truly one of the best Iv'e heard. In highlighting his first term achievements and moving on to second term priorities, I heard the President reach out beyond his base of support.The first portion of his speech dealt with the prosperous economy, correctly pointed out that the unemployment rate was the lowest in half a century. He made new proposals on health care and railed against the illegal sanctuary cities/states and asked for strong legislation to punish such defiance of federal immigration law.

He spoke of his commitment to better schools and school choice.

Foreign policy and trade were also addressed and the President reaffirmed his conviction to bring troops home."It is not our function to serve other nations as a law enforcement agency,” he said.


He also unveiled many unique surprises. H e introduced Rush Limbaugh, (who just revealed that he had cancer)  and had Melania Trump put the medal on Limbaugh right there in the first lady’s box. He introduced a variety of figures, some with tragic stories, others a source of inspiration. 

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The lone distraction to the impressive speech were the disrespectful obnoxious actions of the Speaker sitting behind the President. She read and shuffled papers as he spoke and like many democrats in the audience refused to stand while others were standing and cheering. As a matter of fact many Republican members greeted the President with chants of "4 more years."

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The President rightly snubbed the Speaker on the way out


Here is the text of the speech:

PRESIDENT TRUMP: Thank you very much. Thank you. Thank you very much.

Madam Speaker, Mr. Vice President, members of Congress, the first lady of the United States — (applause) — and my fellow citizens:

Three years ago, we launched the great American comeback. Tonight, I stand before you to share the incredible results. Jobs are booming, incomes are soaring, poverty is plummeting, crime is falling, confidence is surging, and our country is thriving and highly respected again. (Applause.) America’s enemies are on the run, America’s fortunes are on the rise, and America’s future is blazing bright.

The years of economic decay are over. (Applause.) The days of our country being used, taken advantage of, and even scorned by other nations are long behind us. (Applause.) Gone, too, are the broken promises, jobless recoveries, tired platitudes and constant excuses for the depletion of American wealth, power and prestige.

In just three short years, we have shattered the mentality of American decline, and we have rejected the downsizing of America’s destiny. We have totally rejected the downsizing. We are moving forward at a pace that was unimaginable just a short time ago, and we are never, ever going back. (Applause.)

I am thrilled to report to you tonight that our economy is the best it has ever been. Our military is completely rebuilt, with its power being unmatched anywhere in the world — and it’s not even close. Our borders are secure. Our families are flourishing. Our values are renewed. Our pride is restored. And for all of these reasons, I say to the people of our great country and to the members of Congress: The state of our Union is stronger than ever before. (Applause.)

The vision I will lay out this evening demonstrates how we are building the world’s most prosperous and inclusive society — one where every citizen can join in America’s unparalleled success and where every community can take part in America’s extraordinary rise.

From the instant I took office, I moved rapidly to revive the U.S. economy — slashing a record number of job-killing regulations, enacting historic and record-setting tax cuts, and fighting for fair and reciprocal trade agreements. (Applause.) Our agenda is relentlessly pro-worker, pro-family, pro-growth, and, most of all, pro-American. (Applause.) Thank you. We are advancing with unbridled optimism and lifting our citizens of every race, color, religion and creed very, very high.

Since my election, we have created seven million new jobs — five million more than government experts projected during the previous administration. (Applause.)

The unemployment rate is the lowest in over half a century. (Applause.) And very incredibly, the average unemployment rate under my administration is lower than any administration in the history of our country. (Applause.) True. If we hadn’t reversed the failed economic policies of the previous administration, the world would not now be witnessing this great economic success. (Applause.)

The unemployment rate for African-Americans, Hispanic Americans and Asian-Americans has reached the lowest levels in history. (Applause.) African-American youth unemployment has reached an all-time low. (Applause.) African-American poverty has declined to the lowest rate ever recorded. (Applause.)

The unemployment rate for women reached the lowest level in almost 70 years. And, last year, women filled 72 percent of all new jobs added. (Applause.)

The veterans unemployment rate dropped to a record low. (Applause.) The unemployment rate for disabled Americans has reached an all-time low. (Applause.)

Workers without a high school diploma have achieved the lowest unemployment rate recorded in U.S. history. (Applause.) A record number of young Americans are now employed. (Applause.)

Under the last administration, more than 10 million people were added to the food stamp rolls. Under my administration, seven million Americans have come off food stamps, and 10 million people have been lifted off of welfare. (Applause.)
In eight years under the last administration, over 300,000 working-age people dropped out of the work force. In just three years of my administration, 3.5 million people — working-age people — have joined the work force. (Applause.)

Since my election, the net worth of the bottom half of wage earners has increased by 47 percent — three times faster than the increase for the top 1 percent. (Applause.) After decades of flat and falling incomes, wages are rising fast — and, wonderfully, they are rising fastest for low-income workers, who have seen a 16 percent pay increase since my election. (Applause.) This is a blue-collar boom. (Applause.)

Real median household income is now at the highest level ever recorded. (Applause.)

Since my election, U.S. stock markets have soared 70 percent, adding more than $12 trillion to our nation’s wealth, transcending anything anyone believed was possible. This is a record. It is something that every country in the world is looking up to. They admire. (Applause.) Consumer confidence has just reached amazing new highs.

All of those millions of people with 401(k)s and pensions are doing far better than they have ever done before with increases of 60, 70, 80, 90 and 100 percent, and even more.

Jobs and investments are pouring into 9,000 previously neglected neighborhoods thanks to Opportunity zones, a plan spearheaded by Senator Tim Scott as part of our great Republican tax cuts. (Applause.) In other words, wealthy people and companies are pouring money into poor neighborhoods or areas that haven’t seen investment in many decades, creating jobs, energy, and excitement. (Applause.) This is the first time that these deserving communities have seen anything like this. It’s all working.

Opportunity zones are helping Americans like Army veteran Tony Rankins from Cincinnati, Ohio. After struggling with drug addiction, Tony lost his job, his house and his family. He was homeless. But then Tony found a construction company that invests in opportunity zones. He is now a top tradesman, drug-free, reunited with his family, and he is here tonight. Tony, keep up the great work. Tony. (Applause.) Thank you, Tony.

Our roaring economy has, for the first time ever, given many former prisoners the ability to get a great job and a fresh start. This second chance at life is made possible because we passed landmark criminal justice reform into law. Everybody said that criminal justice reform couldn’t be done, but I got it done, and the people in this room got it done. (Applause.)
Thanks to our bold regulatory reduction campaign, the United States has become the No. 1 producer of oil and natural gas anywhere in the world, by far. (Applause.) With the tremendous progress we have made over the past three years, America is now energy independent, and energy jobs, like so many other elements of our country, are at a record high. (Applause.) We are doing numbers that no one would have thought possible just three years ago.

Likewise, we are restoring our nation’s manufacturing might, even though predictions were, as you all know, that this could never, ever be done. After losing 60,000 factories under the previous two administrations, America has now gained 12,000 new factories under my administration, with thousands upon thousands of plants and factories being planned or being built. (Applause.) Companies are not leaving; they are coming back to the U.S.A. (Applause.) The fact is that everybody wants to be where the action is, and the United States of America is indeed the place where the action is. (Applause.)

One of the biggest promises I made to the American people was to replace the disastrous NAFTA trade deal. (Applause.) In fact, unfair trade is perhaps the single biggest reason that I decided to run for President. Following NAFTA’s adoption, our nation lost one in four manufacturing jobs. Many politicians came and went, pledging to change or replace NAFTA, only to do so, and then absolutely nothing happened. But unlike so many who came before me, I keep my promises. We did our job. (Applause.)


Six days ago, I replaced NAFTA and signed the brand-new U.S.-Mexico-Canada Agreement into law. The U.S.M.C.A. will create nearly 100,000 new high-paying American auto jobs, and massively boost exports for our farmers, ranchers, and factory workers. (Applause.) It will also bring trade with Mexico and Canada to a much higher level, but also to be a much greater degree of fairness and reciprocity. We will have that: fairness and reciprocity. And I say that, finally, because it’s been many, many years that we were treated fairly on trade. (Applause.)

This is the first major trade deal in many years to earn the strong backing of America’s labor unions. (Applause.)

I also promised our citizens that I would impose tariffs to confront China’s massive theft of America’s jobs. Our strategy has worked. Days ago, we signed the groundbreaking new agreement with China that will defend our workers, protect our intellectual property, bring billions and billions of dollars into our treasury, and open vast new markets for products made and grown right here in the U.S.A. (Applause.)

For decades, China has taken advantage of the United States. Now we have changed that, but, at the same time, we have perhaps the best relationship we’ve ever had with China, including with President Xi. They respect what we’ve done because, quite frankly, they could never really believe that they were able to get away with what they were doing year after year, decade after decade, without someone in our country stepping up and saying, “That’s enough.” (Applause.) Now we want to rebuild our country, and that’s exactly what we’re doing. We are rebuilding our country.

As we restore — (applause) — American leadership throughout the world, we are once again standing up for freedom in our hemisphere. (Applause.) That’s why my administration reversed the failing policies of the previous administration on Cuba. (Applause.)

We are supporting the hopes of Cubans, Nicaraguans, and Venezuelans to restore democracy. The United States is leading a 59-nation diplomatic coalition against the socialist dictator of Venezuela, Nicolás Maduro. (Applause.) Maduro is an illegitimate ruler, a tyrant who brutalizes his people. But Maduro’s grip on tyranny will be smashed and broken.

Here this evening is a very brave man who carries with him the hopes, dreams, and aspirations of all Venezuelans. Joining us in the gallery is the true and legitimate president of Venezuela, Juan Guaidó. (Applause.) Mr. President, please take this message back to your homeland. (Applause.) Thank you, Mr. President. Great honor. Thank you very much.

Please take this message back that all Americans are united with the Venezuelan people in their righteous struggle for freedom. Thank you very much, Mr. President. (Applause.) Thank you very much.

Socialism destroys nations. But always remember: Freedom unifies the soul. (Applause.)

To safeguard American liberty, we have invested a record-breaking $2.2 trillion in the United States military. (Applause.) We have purchased the finest planes, missiles, rockets, ships and every other form of military equipment, and it’s all made right here in the USA. (Applause.)

We are also getting our allies, finally, to help pay their fair share. (Applause.) I have raised contributions from the other NATO members by more than $400 billion, and the number of Allies meeting their minimum obligations has more than doubled.

And just weeks ago, for the first time since President Truman established the Air Force more than 70 years earlier, we created a brand-new branch of the United States Armed Forces. It’s called the Space Force. (Applause.) Very important.

In the gallery tonight, we have a young gentleman. And what he wants so badly — 13 years old — Iain Lanphier. He’s an eighth grader from Arizona. Iain, please stand up.

Iain has always dreamed of going to space. He was the first in his class and among the youngest at an aviation academy. He aspires to go to the Air Force Academy, and then he has his eye on the Space Force. As Iain says, “Most people look up at space. I want to look down on the world.” (Laughter and applause.)

But sitting behind Iain tonight is his greatest hero of them all. Charles McGee was born in Cleveland, Ohio, one century ago. Charles is one of the last surviving Tuskegee Airmen — the first black fighter pilots — and he also happens to be Iain’s great-grandfather. (Applause.) Incredible story.

After more than 130 combat missions in World War II, he came back home to a country still struggling for civil rights and went on to serve America in Korea and Vietnam. On Dec. 7th, Charles celebrated his 100th birthday. (Applause.) A few weeks ago, I signed a bill promoting Charles McGee to Brigadier General. And earlier today, I pinned the stars on his shoulders in the Oval Office. General McGee, our nation salutes you. Thank you, sir. (Applause.)

From the pilgrims to the Founders, from the soldiers at Valley Forge to the marchers at Selma, and from President Lincoln to the Rev. Martin Luther King, Americans have always rejected limits on our children’s future.

Members of Congress, we must never forget that the only victories that matter in Washington are victories that deliver for the American people. (Applause.) The people are the heart of our country, their dreams are the soul of our country, and their love is what powers and sustains our country. We must always remember that our job is to put America first. (Applause.)

The next step forward in building an inclusive society is making sure that every young American gets a great education and the opportunity to achieve the American Dream. Yet, for too long, countless American children have been trapped in failing government schools. To rescue these students, 18 states have created school choice in the form of Opportunity Scholarships. The programs are so popular that tens of thousands of students remain on a waiting list.

One of those students is Janiyah Davis, a fourth grader from Philadelphia. Janiyah. (Applause.) Janiyah’s mom, Stephanie, is a single parent. She would do anything to give her daughter a better future. But last year, that future was put further out of reach when Pennsylvania’s governor vetoed legislation to expand school choice to 50,000 children.

Janiyah and Stephanie are in the gallery. Stephanie, thank you so much for being here with your beautiful daughter. Thank you very much. (Applause.)

But, Janiyah, I have some good news for you, because I am pleased to inform you that your long wait is over. I can proudly announce tonight that an Opportunity Scholarship has become available, it’s going to you, and you will soon be heading to the school of your choice. (Applause.)

Now I call on Congress to give one million American children the same opportunity Janiyah has just received. Pass the Education Freedom Scholarships and Opportunities Act — because no parent should be forced to send their child to a failing government school. (Applause.)

Every young person should have a safe and secure environment in which to learn and to grow. For this reason, our magnificent first lady has launched the Be Best initiative to advance a safe, healthy, supportive and drug-free life for the next generation — online, in school and in our communities. Thank you, Melania, for your extraordinary love and profound care for America’s children. Thank you very much. (Applause.)

My administration is determined to give our citizens the opportunities they need regardless of age or background. Through our Pledge to American Workers, over 400 companies will also provide new jobs and education opportunities to almost 15 million Americans.

My budget also contains an exciting vision for our nation’s high schools. Tonight, I ask Congress to support our students and back my plan to offer vocational and technical education in every single high school in America. (Applause.)

To expand equal opportunity, I am also proud that we achieved record and permanent funding for our nation’s historically black colleges and universities. (Applause.)

A good life for American families also requires the most affordable, innovative, and high-quality health care system on Earth. Before I took office, health insurance premiums had more than doubled in just five years. I moved quickly to provide affordable alternatives. Our new plans are up to 60 percent less expensive — and better. (Applause.)

I’ve also made an ironclad pledge to American families: We will always protect patients with pre-existing conditions. (Applause). And we will always protect your Medicare and we will always protect your Social Security. Always. (Applause.)

The American patient should never be blindsided by medical bills. That is why I signed an executive order requiring price transparency. (Applause.) Many experts believe that transparency, which will go into full effect at the beginning of next year, will be even bigger than health care reform. (Applause.) It will save families massive amounts of money for substantially better care.

But as we work to improve Americans’ health care, there are those who want to take away your health care, take away your doctor, and abolish private insurance entirely.

AUDIENCE: Booo —

THE PRESIDENT: One hundred thirty-two lawmakers in this room have endorsed legislation to impose a socialist takeover of our health care system, wiping out the private health insurance plans of 180 million very happy Americans. To those watching at home tonight, I want you to know: We will never let socialism destroy American health care. (Applause.)

Over 130 legislators in this chamber have endorsed legislation that would bankrupt our nation by providing free taxpayer-funded health care to millions of illegal aliens, forcing taxpayers to subsidize free care for anyone in the world who unlawfully crosses our borders. These proposals would raid the Medicare benefits of our seniors and that our seniors depend on, while acting as a powerful lure for illegal immigration. That is what is happening in California and other states. Their systems are totally out of control, costing taxpayers vast and unaffordable amounts of money.

If forcing American taxpayers to provide unlimited free health care to illegal aliens sounds fair to you, then stand with the radical left. But if you believe that we should defend American patients and American seniors, then stand with me and pass legislation to prohibit free government health care for illegal aliens. (Applause.)

This will be a tremendous boon to our already very strongly guarded southern border where, as we speak, a long, tall and very powerful wall is being built. (Applause.) We have now completed over 100 miles and have over 500 miles fully completed in a very short period of time. Early next year, we will have substantially more than 500 miles completed.

My administration is also taking on the big pharmaceutical companies. We have approved a record number of affordable generic drugs, and medicines are being approved by the F.D.A. at a faster clip than ever before. (Applause.) And I was pleased to announce last year that, for the first time in 51 years, the cost of prescription drugs actually went down. (Applause.)

And working together, Congress can reduce drug prices substantially from current levels. I’ve been speaking to Senator Chuck Grassley of Iowa and others in Congress in order to get something on drug pricing done, and done quickly and properly. I’m calling for bipartisan legislation that achieves the goal of dramatically lowering prescription drug prices. Get a bill on my desk, and I will sign it into law immediately. (Applause.)

AUDIENCE: H.R.3! H.R.3! H.R.3!

With unyielding commitment, we are curbing the opioid epidemic. Drug overdose deaths declined for the first time in nearly 30 years. (Applause.) Among the states hardest hit, Ohio is down 22 percent, Pennsylvania is down 18 percent, Wisconsin is down 10 percent — and we will not quit until we have beaten the opioid epidemic once and for all. (Applause.)

Protecting Americans’ health also means fighting infectious diseases. We are coordinating with the Chinese government and working closely together on the coronavirus outbreak in China. My administration will take all necessary steps to safeguard our citizens from this threat.

We have launched ambitious new initiatives to substantially improve care for Americans with kidney disease, Alzheimer’s, and those struggling with mental health. And because Congress was so good as to fund my request, new cures for childhood cancer, and we will eradicate the AIDS epidemic in America by the end of this decade. (Applause.)

Almost every American family knows the pain when a loved one is diagnosed with a serious illness. Here tonight is a special man, beloved by millions of Americans who just received a Stage 4 advanced cancer diagnosis. This is not good news, but what is good news is that he is the greatest fighter and winner that you will ever meet. Rush Limbaugh, thank you for your decades of tireless devotion to our country. (Applause.)

And, Rush, in recognition of all that you have done for our nation, the millions of people a day that you speak to and that you inspire, and all of the incredible work that you have done for charity, I am proud to announce tonight that you will be receiving our country’s highest civilian honor, the Presidential Medal of Freedom. (Applause.)

I will now ask the first lady of the United States to present you with the honor. Please. (Applause.)

(The Medal of Freedom is presented.) (Applause.)

Rush and Kathryn, congratulations. Thank you, Kathryn.

As we pray for all who are sick, we know that America is constantly achieving new medical breakthroughs. In 2017, doctors at St. Luke’s Hospital in Kansas City delivered one of the earliest premature babies ever to survive. Born at just 21 weeks and 6 days, and weighing less than a pound, Ellie Schneider was a born fighter. Through the skill of her doctors and the prayers of her parents, little Ellie kept on winning the battle of life. Today, Ellie is a strong, healthy two-year-old girl sitting with her amazing mother Robin in the Gallery. Ellie and Robin, we are glad to have you with us tonight. (Applause.)

Ellie reminds us that every child is a miracle of life. And thanks to modern medical wonders, 50 percent of very premature babies delivered at the hospital where Ellie was born now survive. It’s an incredible thing. Thank you very much. (Applause.)

Our goal should be to ensure that every baby has the best chance to thrive and grow just like Ellie. That is why I’m asking Congress to provide an additional $50 million to fund neonatal research for America’s youngest patients. (Applause.)

That is why I’m also calling upon members of Congress here tonight to pass legislation finally banning the late-term abortion of babies. (Applause.) Whether we are Republican, Democrat, or independent, surely we must all agree that every human life is a sacred gift from God.

As we support America’s moms and dads, I was recently proud to sign the law providing new parents in the federal work force paid family leave, serving as a model for the rest of the country. (Applause.)

Now I call on the Congress to pass the bipartisan Advancing Support for Working Families Act, extending family leave to mothers and fathers all across our nation. (Applause.)

Forty million American families have an average $2,200 extra thanks to our child tax credit. (Applause.) I’ve also overseen historic funding increases for high-quality child care, enabling 17 states to help more children, many of which have reduced or eliminated their waitlists altogether. (Applause.) And I sent Congress a plan with a vision to further expand access to high-quality child care, and urge you to act immediately. (Applause.)

To protect the environment, days ago I announced that the United States will join the One Trillion Trees Initiative, an ambitious effort to bring together government and private sector to plant new trees in America and all around the world. (Applause.)

We must also rebuild America’s infrastructure. (Applause.) I ask you to pass Senator John Barrasso’s highway bill to invest in new roads, bridges, and tunnels all across our land.

I’m also committed to ensuring that every citizen can have access to high-speed Internet, including and especially in rural America. (Applause.)

A better tomorrow for all Americans also requires us to keep America safe. That means supporting the men and women of law enforcement at every level, including our nation’s heroic ICE officers. (Applause.)

Last year, our brave ICE officers arrested more than 120,000 criminal aliens charged with nearly 10,000 burglaries, 5,000 sexual assaults, 45,000 violent assaults, and 2,000 murders.

Tragically, there are many cities in America where radical politicians have chosen to provide sanctuary for these criminal illegal aliens.

AUDIENCE: Booo —

THE PRESIDENT: In sanctuary cities, local officials order police to release dangerous criminal aliens to prey upon the public, instead of handing them over to ICE to be safely removed.

Just 29 days ago, a criminal alien freed by the sanctuary city of New York was charged with the brutal rape and murder of a 92-year-old woman. The killer had been previously arrested for assault, but under New York’s sanctuary policies, he was set free. If the city had honored ICE’s detainer request, his victim would still be alive today.

The state of California passed an outrageous law declaring their whole state to be a sanctuary for criminal illegal immigrants — a very terrible sanctuary — with catastrophic results.

Here is just one tragic example. In December 2018, California police detained an illegal alien with five prior arrests, including convictions for robbery and assault. But as required by California’s Sanctuary Law, local authorities released him.

Days later, the criminal alien went on a gruesome spree of deadly violence. He viciously shot one man going about his daily work. He approached a woman sitting in her car and shot her in the arm and in the chest. He walked into a convenience store and wildly fired his weapon. He hijacked a truck and smashed into vehicles, critically injuring innocent victims. One of the victims is — a terrible, terrible situation; died — 51-year-old American named Rocky Jones.



Rocky was at a gas station when this vile criminal fired eight bullets at him from close range, murdering him in cold blood. Rocky left behind a devoted family, including his brothers, who loved him more than anything else in the world. One of his grieving brothers is here with us tonight. Jody, would you please stand? Jody, thank you. (Applause.) Jody, our hearts weep for your loss, and we will not rest until you have justice.

Senator Thom Tillis has introduced legislation to allow Americans like Jody to sue sanctuary cities and states when a loved one is hurt or killed as a result of these deadly practices. (Applause.)

I ask Congress to pass the Justice for Victims of Sanctuary Cities Act immediately. The United States of America should be a sanctuary for law-abiding Americans, not criminal aliens. (Applause.)

In the last three years, ICE has arrested over 5,000 wicked human traffickers. And I have signed nine pieces of legislation to stamp out the menace of human trafficking, domestically and all around the globe. My administration has undertaken an unprecedented effort to secure the southern border of the United States. (Applause.)

Before I came into office, if you showed up illegally on our southern border and were arrested, you were simply released and allowed into our country, never to be seen again. My administration has ended catch and release. (Applause.) If you come illegally, you will now be promptly removed from our country. (Applause.)

Very importantly, we entered into historic cooperation agreements with the governments of Mexico, Honduras, El Salvador, and Guatemala. As a result of our unprecedented efforts, illegal crossings are down 75 percent since May, dropping eight straight months in a row. (Applause.) And as the wall rapidly goes up, drug seizures rise, and the border crossings are down, and going down very rapidly.

Last year, I traveled to the border in Texas and met Chief Patrol Agent Raul Ortiz. Over the last 24 months, Agent Ortiz and his team have seized more than 200,000 pounds of poisonous narcotics, arrested more than 3,000 human smugglers, and rescued more than 2,000 migrants. Days ago, Agent Ortiz was promoted to Deputy Chief of Border Patrol, and he joins us tonight. Chief Ortiz, please stand. (Applause.) A grateful nation thanks you and all of the heroes of Border Patrol and ICE. Thank you very much. Thank you. (Applause.)

To build on these historic gains, we are working on legislation to replace our outdated and randomized immigration system with one based on merit, welcoming those who follow the rules, contribute to our economy, support themselves financially, and uphold our values. (Applause.)

With every action, my administration is restoring the rule of law and reasserting the culture of American freedom. (Applause.) Working with Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell — thank you, Mitch — (applause) — and his colleagues in the Senate, we have confirmed a record number of 187 new federal judges to uphold our Constitution as written. This includes two brilliant new Supreme Court justices, Neil Gorsuch and Brett Kavanaugh. Thank you. (Applause.) And we have many in the pipeline. (Laughter and applause.)

My administration is also defending religious liberty, and that includes the constitutional right to pray in public schools. (Applause.) In America, we don’t punish prayer. We don’t tear down crosses. We don’t ban symbols of faith. We don’t muzzle preachers and pastors. In America, we celebrate faith, we cherish religion, we lift our voices in prayer, and we raise our sights to the Glory of God.

Just as we believe in the First Amendment, we also believe in another constitutional right that is under siege all across our country. So long as I am president, I will always protect your Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms. (Applause.)

In reaffirming our heritage as a free nation, we must remember that America has always been a frontier nation. Now we must embrace the next frontier, America’s manifest destiny in the stars. I am asking Congress to fully fund the Artemis program to ensure that the next man and the first woman on the Moon will be American astronauts — (applause) — using this as a launching pad to ensure that America is the first nation to plant its flag on Mars. (Applause.)

My administration is also strongly defending our national security and combating radical Islamic terrorism. (Applause.)

Last week, I announced a groundbreaking plan for peace between Israel and the Palestinians. Recognizing that all past attempts have failed, we must be determined and creative in order to stabilize the region and give millions of young people the chance to realize a better future.

Three years ago, the barbarians of ISIS held over 20,000 square miles of territory in Iraq and Syria. Today, the ISIS territorial caliphate has been 100 percent destroyed, and the founder and leader of ISIS — the bloodthirsty killer known as al-Baghdadi — is dead. (Applause.)

We are joined this evening by Carl and Marsha Mueller. After graduating from college, their beautiful daughter Kayla became a humanitarian aid worker. She once wrote, “Some people find God in church. Some people find God in nature. Some people find God in love. I find God in suffering. I’ve known for some time what my life’s work is, using my hands as tools to relieve suffering.” In 2013, while caring for suffering civilians in Syria, Kayla was kidnapped, tortured, and enslaved by ISIS, and kept as a prisoner of al-Baghdadi himself. After more than 500 horrifying days of captivity, al-Baghdadi murdered young, beautiful Kayla. She was just 26 years old.

On the night that U.S. Special Forces Operations ended al-Baghdadi’s miserable life, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, General Mark Milley, received a call in the Situation Room. He was told that the brave men of the elite Special Forces team that so perfectly carried out the operation had given their mission a name: “Task Force 8-14.” It was a reference to a special day: Aug. 14 — Kayla’s birthday. Carl and Marsha, America’s warriors never forgot Kayla — and neither will we. Thank you. (Applause.)

Every day, America’s men and women in uniform demonstrate the infinite depth of love that dwells in the human heart.

One of these American heroes was Army Staff Sgt. Christopher Hake. On his second deployment to Iraq in 2008, Sergeant Hake wrote a letter to his 1-year-old son, Gage: “I will be with you again,” he wrote to Gage. “I will teach you to ride your first bike, build your first sand box, watch you play sports, and see you have kids also. I love you son. Take care of your mother. I am always with you. Daddy.”

On Easter Sunday of 2008, Chris was out on patrol in Baghdad when his Bradley Fighting Vehicle was hit by a roadside bomb. That night, he made the ultimate sacrifice for our country. Sergeant Hake now rests in eternal glory in Arlington, and his wife, Kelli, is in the Gallery tonight, joined by their son, who is now a 13-year-old and doing very, very well. To Kelli and Gage: Chris will live in our hearts forever. He is looking down on you now. Thank you. (Applause.) Thank you very much. Thank you both very much.

The terrorist responsible for killing Sergeant Hake was Qassim Suleimani, who provided the deadly roadside bomb that took Chris’s life. Suleimani was the Iranian regime’s most ruthless butcher, a monster who murdered or wounded thousands of American service members in Iraq. As the world’s top terrorist, Suleimani orchestrated the deaths of countless men, women, and children. He directed the December assault and went on to assault U.S. forces in Iraq. Was actively planning new attacks when we hit him very hard. And that’s why, last month, at my direction, the U.S. military executed a flawless precision strike that killed Suleimani and terminated his evil reign of terror forever. (Applause.)

Our message to the terrorists is clear: You will never escape American justice. If you attack our citizens, you forfeit your life. (Applause.)

In recent months, we have seen proud Iranians raise their voices against their oppressive rulers. The Iranian regime must abandon its pursuit of nuclear weapons; stop spreading terror, death, and destruction; and start working for the good of its own people.

Because of our powerful sanctions, the Iranian economy is doing very, very poorly. We can help them make a very good and short-time recovery. It can all go very quickly, but perhaps they are too proud or too foolish to ask for that help. We are here. Let’s see which road they choose. It is totally up to them. (Applause.)

As we defend American lives, we are working to end America’s wars in the Middle East.

In Afghanistan, the determination and valor of our warfighters has allowed us to make tremendous progress, and peace talks are now underway. I am not looking to kill hundreds of thousands of people in Afghanistan, many of them totally innocent. It is also not our function to serve other nations as law enforcement agencies. These are warfighters that we have — the best in the world — and they either want to fight to win or not fight at all. We are working to finally end America’s longest war and bring our troops back home. (Applause.)

War places a heavy burden on our nation’s extraordinary military families, especially spouses like Amy Williams from Fort Bragg, North Carolina, and her two children — 6-year-old Elliana and 3-year-old Rowan. Amy works full-time and volunteers countless hours helping other military families. For the past seven months, she has done it all while her husband, Sgt. First Class Townsend Williams, is in Afghanistan on his fourth deployment in the Middle East. Amy’s kids haven’t seen their father’s face in many months. Amy, your family’s sacrifice makes it possible for all of our families to live in safety and in peace, and we want to thank you. Thank you, Amy. (Applause.)

But, Amy, there is one more thing. Tonight, we have a very special surprise. I am thrilled to inform you that your husband is back from deployment. He is here with us tonight, and we couldn’t keep him waiting any longer. (Applause.)

AUDIENCE: U.S.A.! U.S.A.! U.S.A.!

THE PRESIDENT: Welcome home, Sergeant Williams. Thank you very much.

As the world bears witness tonight, America is a land of heroes. This is a place where greatness is born, where destinies are forged, and where legends come to life. This is the home of Thomas Edison and Teddy Roosevelt, of many great generals including Washington, Pershing, Patton, and MacArthur. This is the home of Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglass, Amelia Earhart, Harriet Tubman, the Wright Brothers, Neil Armstrong, and so many more. This is the country where children learn names like Wyatt Earp, Davy Crockett, and Annie Oakley. This is the place where the pilgrims landed at Plymouth and where Texas patriots made their last stand at the Alamo — (applause) — the beautiful, beautiful Alamo.

The American nation was carved out of the vast frontier by the toughest, strongest, fiercest, and most determined men and women ever to walk on the face of the Earth. Our ancestors braved the unknown; tamed the wilderness; settled the Wild West; lifted millions from poverty, disease, and hunger; vanquished tyranny and fascism; ushered the world to new heights of science and medicine; laid down the railroads, dug out the canals, raised up the skyscrapers. And, ladies and gentlemen, our ancestors built the most exceptional republic ever to exist in all of human history, and we are making it greater than ever before. (Applause.)

This is our glorious and magnificent inheritance. We are Americans. We are pioneers. We are the pathfinders. We settled the New World, we built the modern world, and we changed history forever by embracing the eternal truth that everyone is made equal by the hand of Almighty God. (Applause.)

America is the place where anything can happen. America is the place where anyone can rise. And here, on this land, on this soil, on this continent, the most incredible dreams come true.

This nation is our canvas, and this country is our masterpiece. We look at tomorrow and see unlimited frontiers just waiting to be explored. Our brightest discoveries are not yet known. Our most thrilling stories are not yet told. Our grandest journeys are not yet made. The American Age, the American Epic, the American adventure has only just begun.

Our spirit is still young, the sun is still rising, God’s grace is still shining, and, my fellow Americans, the best is yet to come. (Applause.)

Thank you. God bless you. And God bless America. Thank you very much. (Applause.)

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XDm9mm
2  XDm9mm    8 months ago

To any that watched the STOU last night, well at least those not suffering TDS, the address by President Donald J. Trump was great.  He highlighted the accomplishments that have been made since he took office and indicated where he would like to see us go in our American revival.

The vitriolic hatred displayed by the Democrats was more than childish.  And the stunt by Nancy Pelosi at the end of the address displayed her hatred of President Trump and made it palpable.  I'm surprised she didn't drop on the floor kicking and screaming in an adult temper tantrum.

 
 
 
Tacos!
2.2  Tacos!  replied to  XDm9mm @2    8 months ago
I'm surprised she didn't drop on the floor kicking and screaming in an adult temper tantrum.

While it would have been hilarious to see her drop and disappear behind the podium, she was going for attention. If it's not all about her, it's no good.

 
 
 
zuksam
2.3  zuksam  replied to  XDm9mm @2    8 months ago
And the stunt by Nancy Pelosi at the end of the address

How about Pelosi inviting that shooting victims father so he could make a scene and disrupt the speech. Tell me that wasn't planned, why else would she have invited him. She thinks she's slick but she's not.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.3.1  XDm9mm  replied to  zuksam @2.3    8 months ago
How about Pelosi inviting that shooting victims father so he could make a scene and disrupt the speech.

And then her pathetic gesturing when he was escorted out.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3  r.t..b...    8 months ago

from the text of the speech..."The state of our Union is stronger than ever before."

If he had read "Disunion", he would have only the Civil War and 1968 to compare it to. We are fractured like few times in our history...do we flip the page or digress further is the crux of the upcoming election. Whether an impeached incumbent or a brokered convention opponent, it will be up to us to choose. Already looking ahead to 2024. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @3    8 months ago
from the text of the speech..."The state of our Union is stronger than ever before."

Excellent observation.

If he had read "Disunion", he would have only the Civil War and 1968 to compare it to.

Entirely predicated on the one with that theory.   And I will posit that the true reason for that belief is the observers complete and total vitriolic hatred of Donald Trump, the man, nothing more and nothing less.  The left, and yes even many on the right hated Trump since he came down the escalator in Trump Tower.   The difference is that the right has recognized the man for what he is, and that is not a politician.  He's a business man that actually wants to accomplish something rather than just give it lip service and then claim as most politicians do 'I tried, but they held me back.'.  That Donald Trump is actually succeeding in fulfilling the promises he made that others before him, both Republican and Democrat ignored, has only fueled that hatred from the left and energized the right with an attitude not seen since JFK told the country we would be going to the moon in 10 years.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1    8 months ago

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r.t..b...
3.1.2  r.t..b...  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1    8 months ago
Entirely predicated on the one with that theory. 

You have your opinion as to the state of our union, as I have mine. Perhaps your view is tinted with donning the red rose-colored glasses and perhaps mine is obscured by the darkness all around.

Here's to clear vision focusing on the reality going forward...from our leaders, from their adherents and distractors, and ultimately, for our children. Who am I kidding...we're all blinded and thus the state in which we find ourselves.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.2    8 months ago
You have your opinion as to the state of our union, as I have mine.

Very true.  However, the vast  majority of people I interact with on a daily basis feel essentially the same as I do.  

Perhaps your view is tinted with donning the red rose-colored glasses and perhaps mine is obscured by the darkness all around.

I don't wear glasses, ok..  reading glasses when reading and sunglasses when driving.  But my view of the world and this country in particular is unobstructed by anything nor is it tinted to provide a better view.

If on the other hand, you're seeing nothing but darkness all around you, there are two possibilities.  One is that you're surrounding yourself with others of a similar mindset and not allowing the light of day to permeate the darkness you've created.  Of course the other possibility is that you wear very dark tinted glasses under a welders mask which will not permit the light of the future to enter.   To be candid, that is you loss and I'm thankful I'm not like that.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.4  It Is ME  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.2    8 months ago
You have your opinion as to the state of our union, as I have mine.

Are you in a bad place right now ?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.5  r.t..b...  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.3    8 months ago
But my view of the world and this country in particular is unobstructed

Best get checked for myopia, the symptoms of which are exhibited with every post. And thank you for your concern for my well being...here's to yours as well. Your aim is and has been unimpeded by any semblance of ocularity.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.5    8 months ago
Best get checked for myopia, the symptoms of which are exhibited with every post.

And your best retort is an attempt at an insult.

My vision is actually excellent as my ophthalmologist can attest to.  In point of fact, I had a full optical exam two weeks ago as I'm being screened for glaucoma, but that is simply due to the fact that my optic nerve pockets are naturally deep but that is a possible indicator.

Being 70 years old this month, I'm quite content with 20/20 vision, although it is not quite what it was when I was a youthful early 20's man.  Then it was actually better than 20/10.  When I was asked to read the lowest row of letters I could, I read out the printed by and copyright information on the very bottom of the chart.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.6    8 months ago

yet you still can't see...

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.8  r.t..b...  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.6    8 months ago
And your best retort is an attempt at an insult.

Good for your acuity at age 70. The 'insult'  was just an observation of your commentary, plain for all to see. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.9  XDm9mm  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1.7    8 months ago
yet you still can't see...

Oh, i see fine thank you.  I just have the ability to actually see the trees as well as the forest.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.8    8 months ago
The 'insult'  was just an observation of your commentary, plain for all to see. 

Only when they only see what they want to see.  Blinded by your own world view is still blinded.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1.11  igknorantzrulz  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.9    8 months ago

Oh, i see fine thank you.  I just have the ability to actually see the trees as well as the forest.

can you see wood in the woods...?

bark on a Dogwood ?

branches spread without chlorophyll gathering apparatus to shade you from the shady side, on a rainy day ?

the root at the BASE, is the PROBLEM ...?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.12  r.t..b...  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1.11    8 months ago
the root at the BASE

...roots that run deep and are thirsty for anything that will put off the inevitable withering, sucking up any sustenance, even if from a fetid, toxic well going dry. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.1.13  igknorantzrulz  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1.12    8 months ago
toxic well going dry.

when their bucket list pales in comparison to others that have formerly kicked the habit, of kicking habits, by lowering the pail via a handle turned clockwise, but in Australia by an image imagined in a mirror by one unable to see positives of a brightly lit Dark Room without negatives, just habits that undermine the foundations of our uprooted grandfathers trunk, stuffed like grandmother, with grand pappy's old junk, yet offenced in is the old dog that won't hunt as he pauses and ponders why he is unarmed with only fore gone conclusions of why he has four gone pause to not hesitate, why parking in a yard is illegal when measured in meters due to no parking yards that won't or can't change what never stay the same as it comes out from within where it isn't,

seeking the toxicity that is now craved by ones not aware,

as there is no care their, as they avoid the reality of reality via, as stated, in numbers of others also blinded like they, as they can't find the change required to rule the yard littered with neutral parking meters driven to reverse course by teachers who taught what the monies gathered fought, to submerge underground drowning in the water drawn to the root of the problem that quenches the thirst of ignorance, as they prey on and for me and my

well being

too deep for any to hear my cries and pleas e 

be courteous wheninsulting my inteligence taken as granite from my hard headed

inn, know particular dire election resulting in the dire direction our once great country beheaded when heads are turned by the  centrifugal,   forcing so many to not see

what theirs is to C when pronounced from a silent K with the oh   mission accomplished banner, for the blind to clearly see

what they can't

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1.14  r.t..b...  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1.13    8 months ago
drowning in the water drawn to the root of the problem that quenches the thirst of ignorance

Continuing the allegory, the perfect epilogue...tapped from a well of inspiration so rare in these droughty times. I hope you write all your thoughts down, pen to paper.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  r.t..b... @3    8 months ago

"We are fractured like few times in our history..."

Now think about why.  We have a political party who have been crying for the better part of 4 years because they lost an election.  They have launched hoax after hoax to support their tantrum and have failed on all accounts. 

The mass media has not made things any easier. Its fed a narrative to the most gullible in our society that things are going wrong when the actual reports are far better than anybody could have imagined.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    8 months ago
The mass media has not made things any easier. Its fed a narrative to the most gullible in our society that things are going wrong when the actual reports are far better than anybody could have imagined.

Shhhh......   facts are anathema and I think actually painful to the willingly gullible.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.2.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.2    8 months ago
We have a political party who have been crying for the better part of 4 years because they lost an election.  They have launched hoax after hoax to support their tantrum and have failed on all accounts. 

Schumer's yammering right now on the Senate floor about RUSSIA!! ... collusion!! ... "proven" quid pro quo!! ... blackmailing a foreign country!!  He's definitely off his meds.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
3.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.2.2    8 months ago

So as usual he"s shorting out and rambling about shit we already know to be false.

Not surprising really.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
3.3  Colour Me Free  replied to  r.t..b... @3    8 months ago
Whether an impeached incumbent or a brokered convention opponent, it will be up to us to choose. Already looking ahead to 2024. 

I am looking to 2024 as well .. alas 'we' are still gong to have to negotiate [navigate] 'our' way through the partisanship of 2020...… 'It's all about that base!'  It was difficult to watch the divide in Congress play out, once again, live on TV last night .. dare I say, nary a moderate in the house?

Buttigieg just made history by flipping the script - even if he comes in second.. Iowa is a win for his campaign!

Buttigieg / Biden 2020 …?                 …….. : )

Hope all is well with you … good to read your words once again : )

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.3.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Colour Me Free @3.3    8 months ago
nary a moderate in the house?

Just us, my friend...lonely at times, but when others come to call, always a welcome visit. Hope this finds you and yours in good health for you've been missed (and often thought about) in your hiatus.

 
 
 
evilgenius
3.3.2  evilgenius  replied to  Colour Me Free @3.3    8 months ago
Buttigieg / Biden 2020 …?

Buttigieg/Klobuchar sounds a lot better to me. They should just quit the fucking around gather the party together announce it with a the theme "Together Forward" and spend the rest of the election year knitting the party together. I know it won't happen, but a moderate can dream.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.3.3  r.t..b...  replied to  evilgenius @3.3.2    8 months ago
Buttigieg/Klobuchar sounds a lot better to me.

...or even Klobuchar/Buttigieg...to exactly what you said. A generational shift is coming...why not now and with these two, in any combination...but, indeed,  a 'moderate can dream'.

 
 
 
evilgenius
3.3.4  evilgenius  replied to  r.t..b... @3.3.3    8 months ago

I'm a Klobuchar fan, originally from MN myself, but she's fifth out of IA. I just really want to watch Alt-Right heads explode when President Elect Buttigieg kisses his husband on TV! Hahahahahahaha! 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.3.5  r.t..b...  replied to  evilgenius @3.3.4    8 months ago
I just really want to watch...

...a Buttigieg vs. trump debate...on any issue, in any venue, with any moderator. I may have had a better chance vs. Tyson in his prime in landing a punch.

 
 
 
evilgenius
3.3.6  evilgenius  replied to  r.t..b... @3.3.5    8 months ago

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Colour Me Free
3.3.7  Colour Me Free  replied to  r.t..b... @3.3.1    8 months ago

Moderates on both sides need to unite!

I am well .. (not so) lil man moved out … Have not lived alone in 25 years .. this is nice, just me and the dog : )

Peace.... 

 
 
 
Sunshine
3.3.8  Sunshine  replied to  r.t..b... @3.3.5    8 months ago
a Buttigieg vs. trump debate...on any issue, in any venue, with any moderator.

That would be great.  Perhaps we can hear something from Buttigieg besides his evasive platitudes.  

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.3.9  r.t..b...  replied to  Colour Me Free @3.3.7    8 months ago
I am well ..

So glad to hear that. Enjoy the quiet, the coming Spring, and the occasional visit from your boyz..Peace to you as well.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.3.10  r.t..b...  replied to  Sunshine @3.3.8    8 months ago
Perhaps we can hear something from Buttigieg besides his evasive platitudes.

They'll contrast nicely with the incumbent's profundity. 

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
3.3.11  Colour Me Free  replied to  r.t..b... @3.3.5    8 months ago
...a Buttigieg vs. trump debate

Haha … that is all I am going to say about that! 

 
 
 
Sunshine
3.3.12  Sunshine  replied to  r.t..b... @3.3.10    8 months ago

I think Buttigieg could handle Trump very well, except he, like most of the Democrats, have no platform, nothing concrete, no teethe.  So he would just be out of shit to say 15 minutes in.  I haven't heard him talk about his accomplishments as Mayor.

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
3.3.13  Colour Me Free  replied to  evilgenius @3.3.2    8 months ago

I have no issue with Klobuchar .. I only said Biden in order to gain the support of his base - he may not be strong in Iowa .. but nationally, he has the support

The United States needs to start to heal a lil in order to unite .. my thoughts

#moderatedream

 
 
 
evilgenius
3.3.14  evilgenius  replied to  Colour Me Free @3.3.13    8 months ago
I only said Biden in order to gain the support of his base - he may not be strong in Iowa .. but nationally, he has the support

He does have massive support from the 65 and older demographic. He's more popular with people of color too. He is not popular with Progressives or younger voters and the Democrats will need them when Sanders has to drop out which will eventually happen. The better he does early and the longer this draws out the worse it will be... AGAIN. (sigh)

The United States needs to start to heal a lil in order to unite...

I agree, but we currently have two opposing factions left and right that are shrilly yelling trying to drown out everyone else. The only thing more toxic than the cancel culture on the left is the facist nature of the Alt-Right

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
3.3.15  Colour Me Free  replied to  evilgenius @3.3.14    8 months ago
He's more popular with people of color too. He is not popular with Progressives or younger voters and the Democrats will need them when Sanders has to drop out which will eventually happen.

Sanders supporters are fiercely loyal … I personally would prefer Klobuchar over Warren, however I am not convinced either could bring Sanders supporters completely on board … all one can do is speculate at this point..

Trump supporters are fiercely loyal as well - no way of telling how many 'closet' voters there are that will be marking their ballot for the president....

 
 
 
Colour Me Free
3.3.17  Colour Me Free  replied to    8 months ago
I find is difficult to believe that Sanders voters will get behind a billionaire who bought the nomination.

Most excellent point … However Bloomberg could prove to the 'Ross Perot' of the party of (D) .. possibly giving Trump 4 more years.. [shiver]

Thank you loki .. it has been so long, I think I have forgotten how to comment : )

Hope you and the Mrs. are well..

Peace

 
 
 
squiggy
4  squiggy    8 months ago

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JohnRussell
5  JohnRussell    8 months ago
Since my election, the net worth of the bottom half of wage earners has increased by 47 percent — three times faster than the increase for the top 1 percent. (Applause.) After decades of flat and falling incomes, wages are rising fast — and, wonderfully, they are rising fastest for low-income workers, who have seen a 16 percent pay increase since my election. (Applause.) This is a blue-collar boom. (Applause.)

Let me give this buffoon (and his fawning fans) a reality check. 

If you're net worth is 15,000 dollars, which is about the midway point of the bottom 50%, your net worth has increased by 5000 dollars in the three years Trump has been president. 

You have to have have a net worth of at least 10 million dollars to be in the "one percent". Most of the one percent has much more than that. But we'll leave it at 10 million.  According to Trump's figures net worth of the one percent has risen by 17 percent during his presidency.  Your net worth has increased by 1.5 million during Trump's presidency. 

5000 vs 1,500,000

According to Trump the guy with the 5000 should feel like he made out. 

Now people will say, the 5000 guy should work harder and make more money.  That goes without saying in a sense, but that isnt the point. 

The point is the economy benefits the wealthy.  Trump portrayed it as if the lower income made out and the wealthy didnt.  That is wrong. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @5    8 months ago
The point is the economy benefits the wealthy. 

No shit Sherlock.  Oh, here's something you continually neglect to indicate.  The same is true regardless of who is President.  Democrat or Republican is immaterial.  You're simply pissed that you don't have what the wealthy have and want your uncle Sammy to steal it from them and give it to you.   Only in Robin Hood and under Communism will that happen.

Trump portrayed it as if the lower income made out and the wealthy didnt. 

Well consider the flip side of that for once JR.  If it weren't for President Trump, the lower income guy would have been even worse off than before.  So, once again JR, if you want more, make more.  Sitting on the sidelines hoping your team makes a touchdown only works if one gets off his/her ass and the sidelines and goes out to make the play.

That is wrong. 

Only in your view JR.  While I would love to be as wealthy as Buffet, Gates or Bezos, I know I'm not and accept that.  Some just can't get beyond the envy of others that creates their own miserable existence.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1    8 months ago

I give a shit about your opinion. Seriously. 

What Trump said is pure bamboozling. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    8 months ago
I give a shit about your opinion. Seriously. 

Such an adult and well thought out response.  Thanks for validating exactly what I said.

What Trump said is pure bamboozling. 

Only to those that can't grasp the factual reality of what he said, regardless of your personal beliefs and hatred of the man.

 
 
 
cjcold
5.1.3  cjcold  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    8 months ago

His whole speech consisted of self aggrandizing lies from start to finish.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    8 months ago

"What Trump said is pure bamboozling"

So provide proof of exactly what is "bamboozling".  Letting you know now that your normal sites for this propaganda is rejected by virtually everybody with a functioning brain.  Dont sit CNN or Fox News or any other third party source.  Provide the actual report as proof.

As you and many others have been told, your hurt feelings and inability to deal with the loss 4 years ago arent reliable by any measure.

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.5  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.4    8 months ago

So you believe him that he rebuilt the military? That the border is now secure? (guess we don't need any more fences) 

Gotta love the right to pray in school. Can't wait until people can now lay out prayer rugs at certain times of the day.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @5.1.5    8 months ago
So you believe him that he rebuilt the military?

Yes.  The Marines no longer need to cannibalize aircraft to keep others in the air.  We're not running short of minor things like hellfire missiles any longer either as we were during the Obama administration.  There's a great deal more that I could provide, but you really don't want to hear that anyway.

That the border is now secure? (guess we don't need any more fences) 

Well, to a point it is.  Illegal alien invaders are fewer and fewer trying to cross the border, but that does not negate the need to further the border wall extent.  Because your house is secure with the door knob key lock, would you not install a dead bolt to provide more security?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @5.1.5    8 months ago

Rebuilt the militarynotby a long shot.  He DID free up the money needed to repair equipment and untied the military's hand to run operations.

The border is far more secure now than under his predecessor who caved to the open border morons.

Prayer rugs in schools?  Those started appearing long before Trump took office. (Thanks Obama.)  The "right" to pray in school has always been there. There is nothing anybody can do to stop a prayer.  Hell I did it on a C-130 before jumping out.  

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.8  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.6    8 months ago

The only thing donald has done was up the military budget.

A better version of the Army’s and Marine Corps’ go-to air-to-ground missile package planned to replace the old standby Hellfire missile is expected to hit full-rate production later this year.

Ultimately the JAGM will replace the BGM-71 TOW, the AGM-114 Hellfire and the AGM-65 Maverick missile systems.

https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2019/04/13/the-hellfire-missile-replacement-is-coming-soon-to-the-pilots-arsenal/

The missiles are being replaced.

The only thing that I can give him credit for, as far as the border, is from the Mexican side. Border crossings are down because of their intervention.

I am also sick of the doorlock analogy. Having to secure oneself from their own countrymen is no where near the same as someone wanting a new life.

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.9  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.7    8 months ago
He DID free up the money needed to repair equipment and untied the military's hand to run operations

And at the same time took money from building projects for his wall.

Those started appearing long before Trump took office. (Thanks Obama.)  The "right" to pray in school has always been there.

So you think only christians should be allowed to pray at school? If that right has always been there, why is donald taking credit...

 
 
 
user image
5.2    replied to  JohnRussell @5    8 months ago

More money is more money John. Stop being so jealous of people who have more than you. Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  @5.2    8 months ago

It has nothing to do with envy, it has to do with recognizing bamboozling when you see it. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.2.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    8 months ago
It has nothing to do with envy, it has to do with recognizing bamboozling when you see it.

Says the man who continually rails against those with wealth and a desire for the government to seize that wealth and 'redistribute' it for those without.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6  JohnRussell    8 months ago

Nancy made a fool out of Trump last night, and it was fantastic.  Sitting there reading while he was blabbering on was a stroke of genius. Tearing up the speech was classic American political protest. 

She did good. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago

The turd 'president' refused her handshake.

How 'presidential'

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.1    8 months ago
The turd 'president' refused her handshake.

You have to be a turd to offer a handshake like that. No one with any integrity pulls the shit she has to sabotage a person and then offers their hand like nothing happened.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.1.1    8 months ago

Sabotage?  Riiiiiiiiiiight.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.2    8 months ago

What do you think Nancy has been trying to do? Help him? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago
Nancy made a fool out of Trump last night, and it was fantastic.

Nancy made herself look like a spoiled little brat having a temper tantrum last night.  Nothing more.  I would say she embarrassed herself, but she obviously has no shame, but she most certainly did embarrass the Democrat Party with that pathetic stunt.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2    8 months ago

She ripped up the speech...................I think she was obviously practicing for later today when she has to tear up the Articles of Impeachment. Can't wait to see her perform.

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Vic Eldred
6.2.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2    8 months ago
Nancy made herself look like a spoiled little brat having a temper tantrum last night. 

I felt like giving her a good slap! I'm sure it helped the President. Decent people would be outraged.

 
 
 
evilgenius
6.2.3  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.2    8 months ago
I felt like giving her a good slap! I'm sure it helped the President. Decent people would be outraged.

Did you feel the same way when Joe Wilson yelled out, "You lie!" when President Obama gave his speech in 2009? I mean both Presidents did tell a few untrue things, so you must be fair and balanced, right? Or are you just pissed at people you disagree with? 

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.4  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.2    8 months ago

And refusing to shake her hand didn't make Trump look like a spoiled little brat?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilgenius @6.2.3    8 months ago
Did you feel the same way when Joe Wilson yelled out, "You lie!" when President Obama gave his speech in 2009?

Ya, I did! Of course it did prove to be a lie, didn't it?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.6  XDm9mm  replied to  evilgenius @6.2.3    8 months ago
Did you feel the same way when Joe Wilson yelled out, "You lie!" when President Obama gave his speech in 2009?

Why?  His "you lie" was the truth.

Oh, if you're unaware, Joe Wilson was lambasted for that by the Republican leadership and was actually punished and forced to make a public apology.

Nancy, if you can hear us, we're all waiting for your apology to not only the President, but to the American people as well.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.2.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  katrix @6.2.4    8 months ago

No. He was already turning around while she fumbled around and stuck out her hand as he was doing so. He probably wasn't expecting it after her lack of introduction.

"Pelosi omitted the customary language about it being a "high privilege and distinct honor" to introduce the president." 

THAT was the beginning...........................And you talk about Trump not following protocol? jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.8  XDm9mm  replied to  katrix @6.2.4    8 months ago
And refusing to shake her hand didn't make Trump look like a spoiled little brat?

So, let's get this straight.  She stormed out of his office in October and had a temper tantrum in front of the cameras, has been working essentially nonstop for the last few months to destroy the man and he's supposed to be cordial to her?

Seriously?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @6.2.4    8 months ago
And refusing to shake her hand didn't make Trump look like a spoiled little brat?

No. Pelosi has treated him with contempt. She walked out of meeting with him saying "watch what we do to you" then launched a frivolous impeachment that had to be done by Christmas. Then she waved it around for a while telling everyone that the stain was forever. She even tried to blackmail the Senate.

She is a hate-filled degenerate. All the worst to her!

 
 
 
squiggy
6.2.10  squiggy  replied to  XDm9mm @6.2    8 months ago

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user image
6.2.11    replied to  squiggy @6.2.10    8 months ago

This killed me! Best meme I've seen yet

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.2.13  XDm9mm  replied to    8 months ago
I'd like to see Trump tear up a copy the impeachment bill right after the vote to acquit

That would be CLASSIC.

Maybe he'll do it tonight.  I've been led to believe he will be making a public statement later tonight.

In all honesty, while I would love it, I think he will rise above the fray like he did last night.  That is actually more annoying to the TDS sufferers than him doing what they expect.

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.14  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.9    8 months ago

I'm no fan of Pelosi, but compared to Trump, she's a class act.

Especially when compared to his making fun of a disabled reporter, his mocking of our military, his constant insults, his shoving of actual world leaders, his constant temper tantrums .. she has a long way to go before she stoops to his level.

Besides, I thought Trump supporters were claiming that they don't care about character.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @6.2.14    8 months ago

Trying to remove a duly elected President from office and bragging about it constitutes what to you?

 
 
 
evilgenius
6.2.16  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.5    8 months ago
Ya, I did!

Well bully for you, Vic! I'm certainly not sticking up for Pelosi. She's an entrenched partisan party player and thus part of the problem I see with modern politics.

We'll never remove partisanship completely, but I will continue to press people (especially my brothers and sisters on the moderate right) to address their own hypocrisy. Perhaps then we'll elect better representatives.

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.17  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.15    8 months ago

You and I disagree about this. I don't see his impeachment as trying to overturn the election results - I see it as a direct result of what he's done, and I think it was well deserved. I think she tried to avoid it, but his actions with the Ukraine gave her no choice.

And I really don't think there are many people who can compare to him when it comes to acting like a baby and throwing tantrums. He's an expert at those things. Yet his supporters are just fine with it, while expecting Democrats to stay above the fray and treat him with the dignity he's proven himself unworthy of.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.18  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  squiggy @6.2.10    8 months ago

Pelosi, like her predecessors, is supposed to remain stone-faced even when they are angry.

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.19  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.18    8 months ago

But Trump, unlike his predecessors, has a free ticket from his supporters to act like a two year old when he's angry or feels insulted - which is all the time, since he's such a snowflake and has a pathological ego problem.

You really don't see your comments about Pelosi as being hypocritical?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @6.2.17    8 months ago
You and I disagree about this.

Yes we do. You feel he committed an impeachable offense and I don't. We do agree that the phone call was inappropriate. We also disagree on the motives of democrats.

And I really don't think there are many people who can compare to him when it comes to acting like a baby and throwing tantrums. He's an expert at those things. Yet his supporters are just fine with it, while expecting Democrats to stay above the fray and treat him with the dignity he's proven himself unworthy of.

I'm actually not happy with it, but on the other hand, as I've often said it is only him I want at the helm - nobody else!

I expect democrats to act like they advise the President to act!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
6.2.21  1stwarrior  replied to  katrix @6.2.4    8 months ago

Oh, and her little "applause" in last year's SOTU address?  That was an adult action?  Tearing up the speech that the President just gave to the Nation - in front of all the witnesses present - while having a smirk on her face - that was an adult action???

 
 
 
It Is ME
6.2.22  It Is ME  replied to  katrix @6.2.19    8 months ago
unlike his predecessors

Kinda like when Obama tells Democrats that "HE did that."...not Trump ?

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/31/obama-after-trump-election-ive-got-the-economy-set-up-well-for-him.html

“I’ve got the economy set up well for him,” Obama said. "

Talk about "Two Year Old" speak.

"Look at me instead, Look at me instead" ? jrSmiley_54_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_103_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.23  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.20    8 months ago
I'm actually not happy with it, but on the other hand, as I've often said it is only him I want at the helm - nobody else!

Why wouldn't you want a Republican who isn't a crook, liar, and baby in office instead of Trump?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.2.24  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  katrix @6.2.17    8 months ago
Yet his supporters are just fine with it, while expecting Democrats to stay above the fray

"When they go low, we go high" but in this case it was more of a "When they go low, we kick 'em. That's what the new Democratic Party is about."

*-*Eric "wing man" Holder*-*
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.25  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @6.2.23    8 months ago

Because I don't trust any other Republican to do the things he has done or withstand the daily assault he has withstood. Let's face it, he's one tough son of a gun. Here's the strange part - If I was president, I would be doing exactly what he is, with one exception - I would have replaced every Obama holdover on day 1.

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.26  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.25    8 months ago

He's only being assaulted daily because he's such a crude, ignorant asshole. And I wouldn't call him tough - he throws tantrums and screeches like a toddler every day.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.2.27  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  katrix @6.2.26    8 months ago
He's only being assaulted daily because he's such a crude, ignorant asshole.

No, I bet to differ. Three long years of a Russia-collusion hoax with every word & deed twisted.


And I wouldn't call him tough

Picture anyone else going through that.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.28  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.27    8 months ago

Hoax?

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Every word and deed twisted?

You mean every word and deed documented/taped/videoed truthfully is twisted?

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Vic Eldred
6.2.29  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.28    8 months ago
Hoax?

It wasn't?   Please tell us why it wasn't......I'm sure Andrew Weissmann would love to know what he missed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.2.30  JohnRussell  replied to  @6.2.11    8 months ago

Fixed it for you.

800

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.31  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.27    8 months ago
Picture anyone else going through that.

I can't picture anyone else going through that, because I can't picture anyone else lying as much as Trump does, insulting people as much as Trump does, acting as childish as Trump does, using his office for personal gain as much as Trump does, being as willfully ignorant as Trump is, sucking up to dictators as much as Trump does, making the swamp as dirty as Trump does (that Cabinet meeting still boggles my mind), thinking he's an emperor as Trump does, or insulting our military as much as Trump does. To name just a few things.

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.32  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.25    8 months ago
Let's face it, he's one tough son of a gun

I would also add, toughness has nothing to do with it. He is nothing but hot air and hubris, and he's probably a sociopath at the very least, if not a psychopath. He's demonstrated that he has no empathy for anyone, doesn't care about anything but himself, and will throw anyone under the bus at the drop of a hat. He is an incredibly thin skinned coward and bully who lashes out constantly and is incapable of believing he is ever wrong, even when he clearly is (an inexcusable flaw in a president). He thinks (and has always thought) that any attention is better than no attention; he's the epitome of a celebutard reality show "star", just like the Kartrashians.

Collins just said the most ridiculous thing - she claims he's "learned." He's come right out and said that he hasn't. He never has, and he's not about to start now.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6.2.33  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.2.27    8 months ago

384

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.34  Tacos!  replied to  katrix @6.2.14    8 months ago
Especially when compared to his making fun of a disabled reporter

Didn't happen. Don't believe all the lies the media tells you. There's plenty to criticize with Trump, but this is not one of the things that's actually legitimate.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.35  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.34    8 months ago

Of course it happened.

Correction - don't believe the lies Faux news and Breitfart and Alex Jones, etc., etc., etc., tell you.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.36  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.35    8 months ago

Not necessary to believe anyone. Just look at relevant video evidence. Trump had previously done the exact same thing when mocking able-bodied people. People bent on demonizing someone see offense wherever they look because it's what they want to see.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.37  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.36    8 months ago

I have looked at the 'relevant video evidence.'  There's no denying he mocked a disabled reporter.

What are you a lawyer or something?   You twist so well.  Not well, actually, but twist and spin and then twist some more.    

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.38  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.37    8 months ago
There's no denying he mocked a disabled reporter.

Oh I agree that he mocked a disabled reporter. But the claim you usually hear is that he mocked this reporter based on his disability. That's not true, and the history of Trump mocking people makes that clear. As I said, he has mocked able-bodied people in the exact same way.

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.39  katrix  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.38    8 months ago
As I said, he has mocked able-bodied people in the exact same way.

He clearly mocked the mannerisms that the person's disability produces.

Just another example of what a sociopath he is - no empathy whatsoever, no common decency, and no clue about decorum.

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.40  Tessylo  replied to  katrix @6.2.39    8 months ago

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Tacos!
6.2.41  Tacos!  replied to  katrix @6.2.39    8 months ago
He clearly mocked the mannerisms that the person's disability produces.

No, it's not at all clear. He has done the same routine to other people. Here is a video montage of him doing exactly that movement multiple times, including doing it to a general at the very same rally that he went after the reporter.

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.42  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.40    8 months ago

Is that a picture of him mocking the general or the reporter?

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.43  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.42    8 months ago

You know it's him mocking the disabled reporter.

 
 
 
Tacos!
6.2.44  Tacos!  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.43    8 months ago

And you know he's mocking him for something he said, not for being disabled.

 
 
 
katrix
6.2.45  katrix  replied to  Tacos! @6.2.44    8 months ago
And you know he's mocking him for something he said, not for being disabled.

Nope, he was mocking him for the mannerisms his physical disability causes. Sure, the fact that Trump didn't like what he said led to his mocking him - Trump is an infant who can't handle it when people don't suck up to him, and tries insults to make everyone afraid to stand up to the bully in chief - but the mocking was trying to mimic the disabled reporter's motions.

Trump is a psychopath.

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.2.46  dennis smith  replied to  1stwarrior @6.2.21    8 months ago

What Nancy did will be with her throughout her life. Now is a great time for the dems to remove her from her position.

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.2.47  dennis smith  replied to  katrix @6.2.23    8 months ago

Trump is the only repub running with a chance. Dem candidates running right now are worse that Trump.

 
 
 
squiggy
6.2.48  squiggy  replied to    8 months ago

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KDMichigan
6.3  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago
She did good. 

yup she did a excellent job of showing what class she has. 

256

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  KDMichigan @6.3    8 months ago

Not to be confused with the weak women of the democratic party!

 
 
 
katrix
6.3.2  katrix  replied to  KDMichigan @6.3    8 months ago

Trump's lack of class and constant toddler-like behavior doesn't seem to bother you - why does this trigger you so badly?

 
 
 
squiggy
6.4  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago
Tearing up the speech was classic

Remember her speech about being a grandma and able to recognize a child's tantrum?

 
 
 
katrix
6.4.1  katrix  replied to  squiggy @6.4    8 months ago

Probably better than Trump's comments about being a father and commenting on both his daughters' bodies and saying he'd date Ivanka if she weren't related to him, and commenting on Tiffany's boobs.

But you're right, it isn't actually necessary to be a grandma to recognize Trump's tantrums. They are so blatant and juvenile.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
6.5  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago

The only person Pelosi made a fool of was herself.  Her childish (I'm willing to bet drunken) actions were completely unprofessional (like that surprises anybody) and uncalled for.

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.6  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @6    8 months ago

She tried her best to disrupt Trump by waving and rattling papers. Also saw the green eyed monster looking at the Dem side of the aisle throughout the night trying to find any of her ilk who stood up or clapped when she didn't.

Trump should have shook her hand but due to the bitterness she has exhibited through the 3+ years of his presidency left little room for a nicety only when she was on TV  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
7  Sean Treacy    8 months ago

Wow. Given the meltdown over trump apparently refusing to salute a television during the super bowl, I thought our resident patriotism police would be outraged at representative talib and Omar for refusing to honor the last surviving Tuskegee airman at the SOTU last night. 
 
but of course, honoring 100 year old veterans apparently is not something elected Democrats care about. (I would exclude senator Sinema from Arizona from criticism, the only adult in the party.)

 
 
 
evilgenius
7.1  evilgenius  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    8 months ago

Every single one of them should have kissed that man's ass. Including Trump who, instead of awarding a metal to this hero, gave it to a bigoted propagandist. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilgenius @7.1    8 months ago
gave it to a bigoted propagandist.

You obviously don't have a clue of what you are talking about. He isn't a bigot and he most certainly isn't a propagandist. He puts the light where the light needs to be in order to show facts to those who are truly inquisitive and open to the opposite of what the media chooses to put out there. 

 
 
 
evilgenius
7.1.2  evilgenius  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.1    8 months ago
He isn't a bigot...

Riiigggttt. Limbaugh was fired for saying racists things about about the press coverage for Donovan McNabbin in 2003 on ESPN. He also coined the term "feminazi". These are just two low hanging fruit on his bigot tree. As a former avid listener I know from personal experiance.

...and he most certainly isn't a propagandist.

That is most certainly his job title. LMFAO! (biggly)

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilgenius @7.1.2    8 months ago

[ delete ]

http://www.espn.com/gen/news/2003/1001/1628537.html

ESPN has accepted the resignation.
"My comments this past Sunday were directed at the media and were not racially motivated," Limbaugh said in a statement issued late Wednesday night. "I offered an opinion. This opinion has caused discomfort to the crew, which I regret.
"I love NFL Sunday Countdown and do not want to be a distraction to the great work done by all who work on it.
"Therefore, I have decided to resign. I appreciate the opportunity to be a part of the show and wish all the best to those who make it happen."
George Bodenheimer, president of ESPN and ABC Sports, issued the following response:
"We accept his resignation and regret the circumstances surrounding this. We believe that he took the appropriate action to resolve this matter expeditiously."

http://www.cnn.com/2003/SHOWBIZ/10/02/limbaugh/

 
 
 
evilgenius
7.1.4  evilgenius  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.3    8 months ago

Shit. He can't help himself and defending him on it is ridiculous. Just quit while you can. I'm not saying he hasn't brought up a salient point or two over the years, but damn man, he's no fucking saint. And he he sure as fuck doesn't deserve a Presidential metal of honor. Here's some direct quotes from Mr Limbaugh. 

“Have you ever noticed how all composite pictures of wanted criminals resemble Jesse Jackson?”

“Look, let me put it to you this way: the NFL all too often looks like a game between the Bloods and the Crips without any weapons. There, I said it.”

[To an African American female caller]: “Take that bone out of your nose and call me back.”

“We need segregated buses… This is Obama’s America.”

Let's not forget song on his radio show ‘Barack the Magic Negro’

 “I mean, let’s face it, we didn’t have slavery in this country for over 100 years because it was a bad thing."

“You know who deserves a posthumous Medal of Honor? James Earl Ray. We miss you, James. Godspeed.”

“Let the unskilled jobs that take absolutely no knowledge whatsoever to do — let stupid and unskilled Mexicans do that work.”

“You’re a foreigner. You shut your mouth or you get out.”

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.3    8 months ago
George Bodenheimer, president of ESPN and ABC Sports, issued the following response: "We accept his resignation and regret the circumstances surrounding this. We believe that he took the appropriate action to resolve this matter expeditiously.

In other words he quit while they were planning to fire him.  Thats the old "you cant fire me, I quit" routine. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  evilgenius @7.1.4    8 months ago

Well done EG. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.1    8 months ago

I wish conservatives wouldnt embarrass themselves so. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilgenius @7.1.4    8 months ago

He wasn't fired ..............that was the point. And taking statements out of context isn't proof of bigotry. I remember some of those statements IN CONTEXT and you are still wrong. Try again.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.7    8 months ago
I wish conservatives wouldnt embarrass themselves so

Physician heal thyself...................

 
 
 
Snuffy
7.1.10  Snuffy  replied to  evilgenius @7.1    8 months ago

Instead of a medal (of which he has several including the Legion of Merit with oak leaf cluster, the Distinguished Flying Cross with two oak leave clusters, the Bronze Star, Air Medal with 25 oak leave clusters, Army Commendation Medal, Presidential Unit Citation, Korean Presidental Unit citation, Hellenic Republic World War II Commemorative Medal among others)  President Trump did sign an order to promote him from Colonel to Brigadier General. So I would say that President Trump did in fact honor General Charles McGee. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.5    8 months ago
In other words he quit while they were planning to fire him.

So you were privy to the inner workings of ESPN? Are you still with them?

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.1.12  1stwarrior  replied to  Snuffy @7.1.10    8 months ago

A well deserved promotion - one that should have been issued YEARS ago.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.11    8 months ago
So you were privy to the inner workings of ESPN? Are you still with them?

No, I just know how to read and can read with comprehension.  More right wingers should try it sometime. 

 
 
 
evilgenius
7.1.15  evilgenius  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.8    8 months ago
And taking statements out of context isn't proof of bigotry. I remember some of those statements IN CONTEXT and you are still wrong. Try again.

No, I don't think I'll try again. Just saying no, with out putting up real evidence doesn't make for debate. If you want to explain why each of those is NOT racist, be my guest. Or offer some concrete evidence that repeatedly playing the Magic Negro song on his show is driven by pure intent to offer a fair and balanced opinion I'm all ears.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
7.1.16  r.t..b...  replied to  evilgenius @7.1.15    8 months ago
that repeatedly playing the Magic Negro song

Good luck to anyone trying to defend this...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  r.t..b... @7.1.16    8 months ago

Never would have been written if not for this..................

https://www.latimes.com/la-oe-ehrenstein19mar19-story.html

 
 
 
Split Personality
7.1.18  Split Personality  replied to  Snuffy @7.1.10    8 months ago

True, with a caveat (of course).

General McGee also received the Congressional Gold Medal along with other living Tuskegee Airmen from George Bush in 2007  so I'm not sure that not receiving the Medal of Freedom is an issue.  They are both touted as being the highest medal a civilian can receive...

General McGee's promotion was honorary ( doesn't count towards retired pay ) and took place in December of 2019 by special legislation introduced by Democrats Van Hollen & Brown in 2018.  In March of 2019 the Secretary of the Air Force authorized the promotion.

One can assume that President Trump had to sign it at some point but it is unclear when,

if Senator Van Hollen announced it December 11, 2019.

At the Super Bowl they introduced him as Colonel.

.

 
 
 
katrix
7.1.19  katrix  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @7.1.1    8 months ago
open to the opposite of what the media chooses to put out there

You mean, those who hate facts and work their asses off to be willfully ignorant.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1.20  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.14    8 months ago
No, I just know how to read and can read with comprehension.

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It Is ME
7.1.21  It Is ME  replied to  evilgenius @7.1.2    8 months ago
Limbaugh was fired for saying racists things about about the press coverage for Donovan McNabb in in 2003 on ESPN. He also coined the term "feminazi". T

" Rush Limbaugh didn't say Donovan McNabb was a bad quarterback because he is black. He said the media have overrated McNabb because he is black"

He was right. it just rubbed the "Progressives" Grain wrong.

"feminazi" Fits....especially when the likes of NOW goes after "Conservative Women", as if they are the enemy.

 
 
 
evilgenius
7.1.22  evilgenius  replied to  It Is ME @7.1.21    8 months ago
"feminazi" Fits....

It's irrelevant whether it fits or not. It's charged language meant to provoke - it's a term both misogynistic and political. My original posted point still stands.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
7.1.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  katrix @7.1.19    8 months ago

No

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    8 months ago

It's who they are!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8  KDMichigan    8 months ago

256

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9  JohnRussell    8 months ago

As far as I can tell, with no seed link that means that Vic is the author of this article. 

Ok Vic

The lone distraction to the impressive speech were the disrespectful obnoxious actions of the Speaker sitting behind the President. She read and shuffled papers as he spoke and like many democrats in the audience refused to stand while others were standing and cheering.

Vic, one simple question. Where do you get off criticizing ANYONE's demeanor , when the president of the United States regularly portrays and lives out bad and embarrassing demeanor?  As PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, he pushed the leader of another , smaller country out of the way so Trump could get in front of the group at a photo op. Then he stuck his jaw out and preened. Thats not made up, its a fact. 

Trump regularly made faces , childish, clowning faces, when his debate opponents said something he wanted to object to. 

Just a few days ago Trump clowned during the playing of the national anthem at his Superbowl Party.  During. The video also appears to show him planning to sit down before the song was over. 

I could list dozens of more examples.   Trump is a child.   

And you have the nerve to talk about Pelosi ripping up his speech?  A speech that was filled with lies and misstatements of fact. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9    8 months ago
Vic, one simple question. Where do you get off criticizing ANYONE's demeanor , when the president of the United States regularly portrays and lives out bad and embarrassing demeanor?  As PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, he pushed the leader of another , smaller country out of the way so Trump could get in front of the group at a photo op. Then he stuck his jaw out and preened. Thats not made up, its a fact. 

Well, I got one simple answer: The Presidents behavior is his alone and he owns it. The behavior of Nancy Pelosi and progressives in general is theirs alone and they own it! One can criticize either or both, but clearly what we see from Pelosi & co is pure hate.


And you have the nerve to talk about Pelosi ripping up his speech? 

You bet! And if I could have slapped her, I would have!

She is a disgrace to her heritage!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1    8 months ago

Yada Yada Yada. 

Trump has been embarrassing this country on a continuous basis since the day he went on the Today Show and questioned Barack Obama's birth certificate and lied that no one knew where Obama had come from. 

He is an utter embarrassment as a human being. If he didnt have a right wing political agenda I'm sure even you would acknowledge that fact. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.1    8 months ago
Trump has been embarrassing this country on a continuous basis since the day he went on the Today Show and questioned Barack Obama's birth certificate and lied that no one knew where Obama had come from. 

Are you speaking of the birther stuff which originated from if memory serves me right, one H.R. Clinton?  Kind of like a certain dossier that was initiated by some Trump hating Republicans and then blown up like a zeppelin by H.R. Clinton and the DNC?   That kind of stuff JR?

The utter embarrassment is the left and the lemmings that permit the likes of Pelosi, Schiff, Nadler, and the "Squad"  to destroy the remnants of the Democrat Party.   JFK must be spinning in his grave.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @9.1.2    8 months ago
Are you speaking of the birther stuff which originated from if memory serves me right, one H.R. Clinton? 

Thats a lie. 

But there is even something more damning to say about Trump and his birtherism, which I have unfortunately have had to say at least a half dozen times on this forum.

Trump began his birther crusade in 2011, three tears AFTER the governor of Hawaii office had officially announced that Obamas birth certificate was safely in the Hawaii state archives. 

What kind of moron tries to revive a conspiracy that had been debunked years earlier? 

After Trump got the media to report on his lies, the state of Hawaii eventually felt compelled to announce  FOR THE THIRD TIME, that Obamas birth certificate had been inspected by their health dept officials. 

Then, even after that, and even after Obama released his long form birth certificate to shut Trump the fuck up, Trump continued to occasionally spread his birther bullshit on his twitter.  He only stopped when it was becoming an issue in his 2016 presidential campaign. 

Clinton has nothing to do with this. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.3    8 months ago
about Trump and his birtherism, which I have unfortunately have had to say at least a half dozen times on this forum.

It seems like more than a dozen times. For the left, everything is about ‘going after black votes.’

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.5  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.3    8 months ago
Thats a lie. 

So, you're saying there was no one from her ill fated campaign against Obama that raised that?  And along with that you'll claim that Hillary herself never said that "he's not a Muslim as far as I know", of course with her ever beloved 'qualifiers'.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
9.1.6  r.t..b...  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.1.4    8 months ago
‘going after black votes.’

...did you miss the pandering in last night's address?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.1.7  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  r.t..b... @9.1.6    8 months ago

Maybe you could enlighten us?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.8  XDm9mm  replied to  r.t..b... @9.1.6    8 months ago
...did you miss the pandering in last night's address?

What pandering?  He's accomplishing in the last three years what Democrats have been promising for the last sixty with no results.

So, who is actually benefiting the black communities?  The man keeping his promises, Donald Trump,  or the Democrats that make the promises with the qualifier, wait till the NEXT election and I'll make sure to keep that promise.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.2  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @9    8 months ago

How about this demeanor Vic?

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Makes you proud to be a Trumpster, I suppose. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2    8 months ago

So it's a matter of priorities John. Do you vote on character or policies?  I vote on what's good for America, Everything Trump has done is exactly what I want done!

 
 
 
squiggy
9.2.2  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2    8 months ago

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JohnRussell
9.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.1    8 months ago

Then why are you complaining about Pelosi's demeanor?  At the least, its none of your business then.  If her supporters are happy with her, like you are with trump, what does that have to do with you? 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2    8 months ago

Trump was classless to act that way and so was Pelosi the way she acted.

Do you agree John?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.2.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2.3    8 months ago
Then why are you complaining about Pelosi's demeanor? 

Because it was an unprecedented act of disrespect. So the next Republican Speaker gets to make gestures behind the next democrat President at the State of the Union address?   That won't hit you as a protest then, will it John?

What a sad display of extreme partisanship following such a unifying message! This is what Democratic Party has come to.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.5    8 months ago

Vic , Donald Trump has been embarrassing this country , every day, for 1111 days in a row. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.2.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @9.2.5    8 months ago
following such a unifying message!

This is why we refer to you as a propagandist.  You really should apply for work in Trump's communications dept.   I feel as though they would have a place for you. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
9.2.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2.7    8 months ago
You really should apply for work in Trump's communications dept.

I was thinking more of the human resources dept. I liked Flynn's idea of rebuilding the intelligence agencies from top to bottom. (Maybe that's why they were after him?)

 
 
 
1stwarrior
9.2.9  1stwarrior  replied to  Sparty On @9.2.4    8 months ago

You know that John doesn't answer questions, right?

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.2.10  Sparty On  replied to  1stwarrior @9.2.9    8 months ago

Lol, sometimes he does.

When he can come up with a pithy anti Trump zinger that applies .... however remotely  ....

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @9.2.10    8 months ago

Well, if Pelosi acted "classless" it was in response to Trump. She did have a copy of the speech in front of her, you know. 

If he made a different speech, one that wasnt a campaign speech, she probably wouldnt have torn it up. 

Your basic idea that Trump should be treated with respect because he has the title of "president" is not going to cut it in 2020. 

Pelosi knows as well as anyone that he doesnt belong there. He's not fit to hold office. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.2.12  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.2.11    8 months ago
Well, if Pelosi acted "classless" it was in response to Trump.

Got it, so you are excusing Pelosi actions and are reinforcing the very real hypocrisy in doing so after bagging so relentlessly on Trump for his actions.

Sadly TDS seems to drive some folks to such hypocrisy.   Not really sure why but there you go.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
9.3  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @9    8 months ago
And you have the nerve to talk about Pelosi ripping up his speech? 

Pelosi has touted herself as a devout Roman Catholic who doesn't hate anyone and claimed that she prays for the POTUS every day. Were her facial expressions and behavior last night that of a woman who supports and prays for this POTUS? NO.

A speech that was filled with lies and misstatements of fact. 

List the "lies and misstatements" and provide facts and evidence to support each of your claims.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Jasper2529 @9.3    8 months ago

The TV says the Washington Post found 31 false statements in Trump's state of the union address last night. 

Sounds a little low to me. jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
katrix
9.3.2  katrix  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    8 months ago
Sounds a little low to me

Well, the state of the union address is one time where he generally doesn't ad lib, so he doesn't lie as much as usual.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.3.3  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    8 months ago
The TV says the Washington Post

So your TV is now reading the Washington Post to you?  I was under the impression that you  could read and read with comprehension as you yourself asserted earlier.

My how things change in such short time periods.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
9.3.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    8 months ago

NYT disagrees to an extent......................

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2020/fact-check-state-of-the-union-02-04
 
 
 
Jasper2529
9.3.5  Jasper2529  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    8 months ago

Oh, so your TV and WaPo speak for you? In comment 9.3 , I asked YOU to support your claims - not your TV or WaPo, remember? If not ...

List the "lies and misstatements" and provide facts and evidence to support each of your claims.

I welcome your list that holds facts, sources, and respectable links. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10  JohnRussell    8 months ago

Easily the worst part of a speech filled with lies and bald conservative partisanship ( who ever saw a state of the union where the current president criticized his predecessor of 4 years ago so much?)  was the bestowing of the Congressional Medal Of Freedom on Rush Limbaugh. 

Rush Limbaugh was a birther. Case closed. No medal of freedom for you Rush. 

Of course there are hundreds of other reasons that one of the most divisive personalities of modern history does not merit this high honor. 

And you right wingers have the gall to say that the Democrats were partisan last night. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @10    8 months ago
No medal of freedom for you Rush. 

Not YOUR decision to make JR.  Suck it up.  You're overruled.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @10.1    8 months ago

It demeans the medal to have it given to someone like Rush Limbaugh. Sorry. 

 
 
 
user image
10.1.2    replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.1    8 months ago

That's your opinion. Just as it was many people's opinion that giving Obama the warmonger the Nobel peace prize cheapened its value.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
10.1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.1    8 months ago

I know what you mean. Nobel Peace Price for nothing comes to mind. 

Dang jung. You beat me to it................."How Dare You" jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

And don't forget that Person of the Year thing too. And that little person is nominated for that same "prize".

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
10.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.1    8 months ago
It demeans the medal to have it given to someone like Rush Limbaugh.

Did it demean the Nobel Peace Prize to give it to Obama simply for being the first black president?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.1.5  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.1    8 months ago
It demeans the medal to have it given to someone like Rush Limbaugh. Sorry. 

I could say the same for some that Obama chose.  The difference between you and I though is I'm adult enough to understand that it's not my decision and while I din't like many of the Obama policies (or lack thereof) in fact, I did find him charismatic and eloquent, albeit unqualified for the position.

Unlike you, I didn't have a vitriolic to the core of my being hatred of the man.

Does Trump march around your head 24x7 with a HUGE bad high school marching band playing the 1812 Overture?   

 
 
 
user image
10.1.6    replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @10.1.3    8 months ago

They don't call me quick draw mcgraw for nothing! lol Just kidding.

 
 
 
It Is ME
11  It Is ME    8 months ago

Great "PRO-AMERICAN CITIZEN" Speech . jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

Trump wanting more to help the "Black" community ....Dems sit on their ass. I guess Dems don't "Really" want to help the "Black" Community. Go figure ! jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif

Trump wanting more for "ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS".....Dems sit on their ass.

Trump says the Chamber is there for one reason, and one reason only ….. to "HELP THE AMERICAN PEOPLE"...… Dems sit on their ass.

Now.….. Nancy Pelosi:

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oh ………oooohhh…...ooooooooohhhhhh.  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

Talking to herself ? jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

Trying to keep her dentures in place …… AGAIN ? jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

Has a kiddy Temper Tantrum in the end ? jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

Priceless Liberal behavior. jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  It Is ME @11    8 months ago
Great "PRO-AMERICAN CITIZEN" Speech

That was one of the most divisive speeches in history. Dishonest Donald just getting up there and taking credit for things he had no hand in, lying about millions of Americans, attacking millions who live in California and NY and lying about Obama's legacy was just sad. 

When I hear all the bullshit spouted about the Obama years I have to wonder, how do these sniveling Obama haters feel about the tens of millions of Americans who got jobs, recovered financially and started to prosper during the Obama years? Are those who did well under Obama not as "American" as the poorly educated 'heartland' Americans who imagined they were left behind? If those weak pieces of shit believe we 'coastal' Americans are somehow less American or less deserving than they, which it seems fairly obvious they do, then they can go fuck themselves because that appears to be the only thing they are good at.

House Democrats passed over 300 bills that Moscow Mitch refused to even have a vote on. That clearly shows who are the weak and bitter pieces of shit in our legislature as Mitch didn't even have the balls to put any of the bills up for a vote for fear they might pass and give Democrats a 'win'. That is why we are here now, sick and twisted Republicans who imagine themselves the only "heirs" to America and have refused to work with the vast majority of Americans who actually want government to work for the people by the people.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
11.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1    8 months ago
House Democrats passed over 300 bills that Moscow Mitch refused to even have a vote on. That clearly shows who are the weak and bitter pieces of shit in our legislature as Mitch didn't even have the balls to put any of the bills up for a vote for fear they might pass and give Democrats a 'win'.

That line of shit again? What is the gravity of those bills sitting in wait by the Senate? Nothing in my life, or anyone I know, is suffering because of some pile of paper sitting waiting for the placers of them to get a "see we are doing something" pat on the back. And that is IT. If there was anything ANYTHING of any consequence you can bet yo9ur ass there would be screaming to "let our bills be heard". There is no screaming. Just whimpering ..............and it is very telling.

 
 
 
It Is ME
11.1.2  It Is ME  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1    8 months ago
That was one of the most divisive speeches in history.

Because he spent too much time on wanting policies put forth that would help the "Black" community ? jrSmiley_87_smiley_image.gif

Maybe it was that he spent toooooo much time talking about the success of the "Minority Outreach, Urban Renewal Programs" is what BOTHERED YOU the most ? jrSmiley_99_smiley_image.jpg

The time he spent "GIVING" a little "Black" girl a "Scholarship" to go to a good school, REALLY got your goat ? jrSmiley_46_smiley_image.gif

Recognizing a "Tuskegee airman's" Grandson for his accomplishments and noting what this little "Black Child" espiers to be, was the killer for you ? jrSmiley_32_smiley_image.gif

Oh..... I know .....it was the "AMERICAN CITIZENS Freedom award" given to "Rush". That's what did it.....isn't it. jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XDm9mm
11.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1    8 months ago
That was one of the most divisive speeches in history.

Only if that's how you viewed it.  True PATRIOTIC AMERICANS viewed it very well and accepted the factual reality of the situation.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.1    8 months ago
Nothing in my life, or anyone I know, is suffering because of some pile of paper sitting waiting 

Back to imagining you are the country, I see. 

Such delusions of grandeur. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
11.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.4    8 months ago

Well JR, perhaps you can enlighten the class by providing the meat of a few of those bills that are so urgent to the country that it should be a top priority.

.................................................................................

 
 
 
1stwarrior
11.1.6  1stwarrior  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @11.1.5    8 months ago

Jim, as we all know, John doesn't respond to requests, so don't hold your breath.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @11.1.3    8 months ago
True PATRIOTIC AMERICANS

Only sniveling weaklings like Donald found anything to like in that self-congratulatory regurgitation of lies. Your comment is just more evidence that those weaklings wrongly see themselves as the only "true Americans" simply because they live in rural America and see themselves as "suffering" when their coal jobs and low education manufacturing jobs get taken over seas, who sit on their hands and whine instead of getting retrained for the jobs that are available in the tech industry. What is so fucking 'more American' about staying unemployed in your rural hollar instead of heading to the big city to get a better education and job training? I see nothing heroic or patriotic about staying poorly educated, whining about your supposed right to discriminate against anyone who doesn't share your brand of faith or supporting a scum bag serial liar like dirty dishonest Donald.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
11.1.8  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.7    8 months ago
instead of getting retrained for the jobs that are available in the tech industry.

I saw the excited look on the faces of 50 year old workers when Biden told them to go get re-trained/Sar

We need more entitled kids who are good in math/Sar

 
 
 
katrix
11.1.9  katrix  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.7    8 months ago
instead of getting retrained for the jobs that are available in the tech industry

Kind of hard to do that when McConnell is such an obstructionist, and refuses to put any House bills to a vote - even bipartisan ones. We'll see if he decides to start doing his fucking job and passes the broadband bill, but I'm not crossing my fingers. It's not as though he or Trump actually gives a flying fuck about rural problems. Trump doesn't even like to stay at Camp David, choosing instead to play golf constantly at his own resorts - because he's afraid of rural areas. The coward might see a mouse or snake or something, and it might trigger a relapse of his bone spurs.

 
 
 
Ender
11.1.10  Ender  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.7    8 months ago

Funny that people want to deny his killing of bills when he calls himself the grim reaper of the senate.

 
 
 
Ender
11.1.11  Ender  replied to  katrix @11.1.9    8 months ago

All donald has to do is rescind more environmental regulations to let industry pollute rivers and streams and the gullible will cheer their own destruction.

 
 
 
katrix
11.1.12  katrix  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.8    8 months ago
I saw the excited look on the faces of 50 year old workers when Biden told them to go get re-trained/Sar

Reality isn't always pretty. Coal isn't coming back. I'm over 50 and I'm perfectly capable of getting retrained - would you prefer these people just go on welfare and stay in poverty, rather than being helped to adapt to the changing economy?

 
 
 
katrix
11.1.13  katrix  replied to  Ender @11.1.11    8 months ago

And sell off our National Parks to his buddies.

Trump hates rural America.

 
 
 
Ender
11.1.14  Ender  replied to  katrix @11.1.13    8 months ago

Yep. Who wants to go to a national park and see an oil well or fracking.

I had to laugh. I drove through the delta a week or so ago. Still a bunch of cotton fields but I saw a brand new solar farm being built.

People condemning different sources yet I see progress at the same time. In rural areas. Despite claims of wanting to remain trapped in time.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.1.15  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Vic Eldred @11.1.8    8 months ago
I saw the excited look on the faces of 50 year old workers

I'm not exactly sure why that should be a sarcastic retort. Why wouldn't 50 year old Americans who find themselves unemployed seek new job training? Why shouldn't they seek further education and new skills which would help them get the jobs that are currently available? I don't feel I'm behind any of those who are even 30 years younger entering the workforce, I decided to change careers in my late 30's and had to get additional job training and licensing and I know I would do it now if I needed to in order to support my family. There is no shame in hard work or admitting you don't know everything and thus need more education and training, to seek to better yourself no matter what age you might be. Those who feel they were forgotten who continue to live in some of the rural ghost towns throughout the Midwest and the south weren't "forgotten", they were given all the same opportunity to move into the next century as anyone on the coast was. The problem was they chose not to evolve, they decided 'standing their ground' by refusing to learn anything new or different than what their grandpappy "lernt' 'em" is what caused this division today. You have the majority of America progressing, accepting that diversity and cooperation with global allies will be beneficial for all vs those who are xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic protectionists who want to hide behind a wall and wait for Armageddon where they believe their knight on a white horse will come and kill all their enemies (who they see as all the minorities and immigrants who don't share their faith) and they will inherit the earth. Only those who invest in such vile sad apocalyptic fantasy hit 50 and just give up on themselves and their families by claiming they're just too old to learn new things and blame progress for all their problems.

 
 
 
Ender
11.1.16  Ender  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.15    8 months ago

What gets me is people use to dream and want to get out of the coal mines. Wanted something better for their kids.

Now these people are saying give me coal or give me death. Ridiculous.

 
 
 
lady in black
11.1.17  lady in black  replied to  XDm9mm @11.1.3    8 months ago

I am a true patriotic American and it was all bullshit.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
11.1.18  XDm9mm  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.7    8 months ago
Only sniveling weaklings like Donald found anything to like in that self-congratulatory regurgitation of lies.

The only "sniveling" is coming from those who refuse to acknowledge the truth of his successes.

Your comment is just more evidence that those weaklings wrongly see themselves as the only "true Americans" simply because they live in rural America and see themselves as "suffering" when their coal jobs and low education manufacturing jobs get taken over seas, who sit on their hands and whine instead of getting retrained for the jobs that are available in the tech industry.

Wow, not too denigrating there are you?  Is that really you Hillary?  I remember her abject disdain for Americans and their jobs too.  

If that comment was even remotely referencing me, I LOVE to educate you.  I never worked in a coal mine.  I don't know how anyone actually can do that job.   I've worked in the 'tech' industry since i graduated high school.  After my stint in the Army, I continued in tech.  Built my first computer using an 8086 chip.  When I worked for ROLM, I installed the first RB-295 PBX field trial.  After that, I installed a 15,000 port PBX at NASA Goddard Space flight center with remote nodes in the NASA facilities at Chincoteague and Wallops Islands.

So, I can tell you EXACTLY where you can shove your comment and I will guarantee that it never sees sunshine.

What is so fucking 'more American' about staying unemployed in your rural hollar instead of heading to the big city to get a better education and job training?

Here's a clue for the oh so sanctimonious.  Not everyone is suited for college.  Maybe you should tell the electrician, or plumber, or HVAC technician, or auto mechanic exactly how you feel about them when they're fixing the shit that you have no idea how to.  Then tell us all what your reaction is when they pack their tools and tell you to fix it yourself.

I see nothing heroic or patriotic about staying poorly educated, whining about your supposed right to discriminate against anyone who doesn't share your brand of faith or supporting a scum bag serial liar like dirty dishonest Donald.

And I see nothing patriotic about denigrating any and all that don't really care all that much about a 'formal' education, when they see what that education has made some think about others without that formal education.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
11.1.19  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @11.1.10    8 months ago
Funny that people want to deny his killing of bills when he calls himself the grim reaper of the senate.

He's not killing anything.  He's holding back partisan bills with poison pill inclusions.

How about this as an alternative?

Pass and advance CLEAN bills specifically related to the bill, no additional poison pill amendments?

And that goes for BOTH Democrats and Republicans.

 
 
 
katrix
11.1.20  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @11.1.19    8 months ago
Pass and advance CLEAN bills specifically related to the bill, no additional poison pill amendments?

That's no more likely than a line item veto (although I think it's a far preferable alternative). It makes too much sense to ever happen. If it happened, we'd actually know exactly how our representatives vote on each individual issue, and that's the last thing they want us to know.

McConnell is refusing to do his job, plain and simple. He won't even let these bills go to a vote so Congress can perhaps get something done.  He is just doing it to pretend to his base that the Dems are the obstructionists, when actually the Reps failed to govern when they had control the first two years, and now they're obstructing to keep the Dems from getting anything done. And then trying to blame it on the House.

And to be fair - Harry Reid did the same thing. Every single Speaker turns out to be a grade-A asshole who couldn't care less about the country or actually improving anything; they just want to make the other side look bad, and to hell with us.

 
 
 
evilgenius
11.1.21  evilgenius  replied to  XDm9mm @11.1.19    8 months ago

He's holding back every bill that Democrats could call a win during an election year. Many of those bills are bi-partisan. For him it's a good strategy. It's as good a strategy as adding as much pork for Tennessee as MItch can push through before his reelection. 

 
 
 
Ender
11.1.22  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @11.1.19    8 months ago

Never happen with graft.

 
 
 
katrix
11.1.23  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @11.1.18    8 months ago
Not everyone is suited for college. 

Exactly, we are talking about retraining here. Rather than welfare and poverty because those jobs are not coming back.

Why you disdain those of us who, unlike Trump, actually want to help these people find ways to stay productive and employed is beyond me. Lying to them like Trump does is supposed to be better for them than facing reality?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
11.1.24  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XDm9mm @11.1.18    8 months ago
And I see nothing patriotic about denigrating any and all that don't really care all that much about a 'formal' education, when they see what that education has made some think about others without that formal education.

I have many family members back in Ohio and Arkansas who have little "formal" education, and some of them wish they had sought higher education and wish they had put in the work, time and investment in it. They respect those who have invested in a higher education and rely on them for sound advice, from doctors, pharmacists and educators to engineers and attorneys.

Then there are those who wallow in their ignorance and wear it like a badge of honor, ridiculing the very idea of investing in a higher education, championing a lack of education as something of value. There is no value in ignorance, it doesn't actually provide 'bliss', just blistering stupidity. Those are the dip shits I was referring to who deserve all the denigration they get for being such useless morons who will leave this world even more ignorant than when they were born into it.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
11.1.25  KDMichigan  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.24    8 months ago
Then there are those who wallow in their ignorance and wear it like a badge of honor, ridiculing the very idea of investing in a higher education, championing a lack of education as something of value.

Thanks for acknowledging your fellow democrats, I don't know one Republican that thinks you are entitled to a "living wage" for flipping burgers that would be the left.

 There is no value in ignorance, it doesn't actually provide 'bliss', just blistering stupidity.

Would ignorance qualify as someone who spends 4 years on a worthless degree than expect the taxpayers to pay for it, that kind of ignorance.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
11.1.26  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @11.1.15    8 months ago
I'm not exactly sure why that should be a sarcastic retort.

Then maybe you can explain to people with lives based aroud good paying blue collar jobs are supposed to drop everything, including bills, and go out and get retrained?  That's obviously a totally insensitive as well as unpractical suggestion by Biden.


You have the majority of America progressing, accepting that diversity and cooperation with global allies will be beneficial for all vs those who are xenophobic, homophobic, Islamophobic protectionists who want to hide behind a wall and wait for Armageddon where they believe their knight on a white horse will come and kill all their enemies (who they see as all the minorities and immigrants who don't share their faith) and they will inherit the earth. Only those who invest in such vile sad apocalyptic fantasy hit 50 and just give up on themselves and their families by claiming they're just too old to learn new things and blame progress for all their problems.

That would be Obama's America. Retribution & redistribution and elitism. That is why many who once voted for Obama turned to Trump!

 
 
 
Ronin2
11.1.27  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @11.1.10    8 months ago

Sorry, that was the Crypt Keeper Harry Reid. How soon the left forgets; or really doesn't care since Reid had that all important D behind his name.

 
 
 
Ender
11.1.28  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @11.1.27    8 months ago

Reid was also obstructed. Why do you think he changed the rules (bad move) about judicial appointments.

Still, one wrong does not justify another.

 
 
 
squiggy
12  squiggy    8 months ago

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Vic Eldred
13  author  Vic Eldred    8 months ago

Gingrich calls on Pelosi to be censured for "viciously partisan action"


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http:// hill.cm/ojO6Ara

 
 
 
JohnRussell
13.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @13    8 months ago
Gingrich calls on Pelosi to be censured for "viciously partisan action"

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r.t..b...
13.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Vic Eldred @13    8 months ago
Gingrich

The GOP equivalent of HRC...both striving to revive their past relevancy, and yet both currently irrelevant. Time for both to revel in their past glory, real or imagined. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
13.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  Vic Eldred @13    8 months ago

Senate should do it at least. She embarrassed Congress.

 
 
 
katrix
13.3.1  katrix  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.3    8 months ago
Senate should do it at least. She embarrassed Congress.

Trump embarrasses the office of the Presidency on a daily basis, and constantly acts viciously partisan. Why doesn't that bother you, but this does?

What hypocrisy.

 
 
 
Ender
13.3.2  Ender  replied to  katrix @13.3.1    8 months ago

Notice the response is to always point fingers at others.

Look squirrel....

 
 
 
Tessylo
13.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @13    8 months ago

That is a hoot!  Gingrich!   

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lady in black
13.5  lady in black  replied to  Vic Eldred @13    8 months ago

Gingrich should go back to cheating on his wife

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
13.5.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  lady in black @13.5    8 months ago
Gingrich should go back to cheating on his wife

That's what Republicans have given us; liars, serial adulterers and mentally unstable drug abusers like the new monumentally undeserved medal of freedom winner Rush Lamebaugh.

 
 
 
Ender
14  Ender    8 months ago
The unemployment rate for women reached the lowest level in almost 70 years. And, last year, women filled 72 percent of all new jobs added.

And republicans cheer..see how great things are

Since April 2000, the participation rate among women has fallen 3.2 percentage points, to 57.1 percent from 60.3 percent. That is the largest decline since women started entering the labor force in large numbers in the 1960s.

Reality.

 
 
 
Ender
14.1  Ender  replied to  Ender @14    8 months ago
 
 
 
Nerm_L
15  Nerm_L    8 months ago

Donald Trump delivered a results oriented speech.  Trump laid down a marker; the measure of political success is results.  Not hopes, not dreams, not aspirations, and certainly not political theory.  Yes, President Trump rubbed liberal noses in their own crap but President Trump wasn't a cheerleader for Republicans, either.  Donald Trump delivered a progressive Roosevelt speech; reminiscent of both Theodore and Franklin Roosevelt.

The President is expecting results that benefits the United States.  Donald Trump did not speak of fear.  Donald Trump spoke of progress.  That's a language Americans understand.

 
 
 
Ender
15.1  Ender  replied to  Nerm_L @15    8 months ago

Result oriented? So you believe him when he says he completely rebuilt the military....

 
 
 
Nerm_L
15.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Ender @15.1    8 months ago
Result oriented? So you believe him when he says he completely rebuilt the military....

Look, arguing in the gaps won't change the tone and tenor of President Trump's State of the Union speech.  Trump spoke of progress made.  And Trump spoke of political obstacles hindering progress.  President Trump wasn't speaking to Congress, Trump was talking over their heads.

Like it or not, Donald Trump delivered a progressive speech.  And it's clear that liberals and conservatives don't understand the progressive language.  Both liberals and conservatives fear having their political success measured by results that benefit the United States.

Once upon a time in the United States, progressive ideas were bipartisan.  Liberals and conservatives have twisted and perverted what it means to be progressive.  Both parties have become far, far too liberal and much, much less progressive.  Liberal political ideas from both parties have been allowed to damage the country too long.  It's time to revive American progressive politics.  It's true that Donald Trump is not the most eloquent or charismatic spokesman for progressive ideas but Donald Trump is the only progressive working toward results.

Donald Trump is not unique or unprecedented in American politics.  But Trump's progressive ideas and politics have been disparaged and ignored for a very long time.

 
 
 
Ender
15.1.2  Ender  replied to  Nerm_L @15.1.1    8 months ago

donald progressive? Far from it. Rescinding environmental regulations, trying to revive coal, limiting legal immigration...

He is anything but progressive.

His speech, (didn't watch it, his voice makes me want to vomit) from what I have read is full of lies and half truths.

He is working to enrich his crony's and their bottom line.

Hell I can read it right here on this thread where people are now cheering for public schools to be closed and the giving of public money to private religious institutions.

Progressive ideas have hardly been bipartisan over the years. Some people still hate LBJ.

 
 
 
katrix
15.1.3  katrix  replied to  Ender @15.1.2    8 months ago
He is anything but progressive

He's afraid of new ideas, has often said he prefers the old to the new, is afraid of learning technology ... he's totally backwards.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
15.1.4  Nerm_L  replied to  Ender @15.1.2    8 months ago
Progressive ideas have hardly been bipartisan over the years. Some people still hate LBJ.

Lyndon Johnson was NOT a progressive.  Liberals can't even conceptualize what being progressive means.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
15.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Nerm_L @15.1.4    8 months ago

Nerm,

In your own words, how would you describe a progressive? Let's try that for clarification.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
15.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @15.1    8 months ago

Trump didnt "rebuild" the military.  He released the military from the crippling budget cuts and restrictions placed on it by previous administrations. 

They now have the funding to repair equipment that sat damaged since 2008.

They have more freedom to conduct operations WITHOUT the interference of politicians who have absolutely no idea what it's like to be in combat.  

 
 
 
Ender
15.1.7  Ender  replied to  Nerm_L @15.1.4    8 months ago
In domestic policy, Johnson designed the " Great Society " legislation to expand  civil rights public broadcasting Medicare Medicaid , aid to education, the arts, urban and rural development, public services and his " War on Poverty ". Assisted in part by a growing economy, the War on Poverty helped millions of Americans rise above the poverty line during his administration. [3]  Civil rights bills that he signed into law banned racial discrimination in public facilities, interstate commerce, the workplace and housing; the  Voting Rights Act  prohibited certain requirements in southern states used to disenfranchise African Americans. With the passage of the  Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 , the country's immigration system was reformed, encouraging greater emigration from regions other than Europe. Johnson's presidency marked the peak of  modern liberalism  after the  New Deal  era. Link

That doesn't sound progressive to you?

 
 
 
Ender
15.1.8  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.1.6    8 months ago
Trump didnt "rebuild" the military

So he lied. I for one would rather have our elected representatives know what is going on and have some say.

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.1.9  dennis smith  replied to  Ender @15.1.7    8 months ago

Don't forget LBJ's comment about having n------ voting for dems for 100 years. Also he was responsible for great majority who died in Vietnam under his watch. 

No POTUS is without their negative points as well as positive ones. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
15.1.10  Nerm_L  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @15.1.5    8 months ago
In your own words, how would you describe a progressive? Let's try that for clarification.

American progressivism is rooted in the Protestant work ethic (which isn't about religion).  Unfortunately progressivism cannot be reduced to a bumper sticker.

Progressive ideas are about empowering ordinary people to improve their own condition with whatever abilities they may possess.  The progressive hero is the average American.

Mentoring is more important than school education.  Conservation is more important than environmentalism.  Work is more important than profit.  Empathy is more important than charity.  Fairness is more important than equality.  Justice is more important than law.  And ordinary people are more important than government.

Horatio Alger was an early progressive reformer who wrote a number of novels based on the idea of ordinary people lifting themselves by their bootstraps.  But the heroes of Alger's stories didn't succeed alone.  ( Books by Horatio Alger. )

"It's hard to fail, but it is worse never to have tried to succeed." -- Theordore Roosevelt

"It is common sense to take a method an try it.  If it fails, admit it frankly and try another.  But above all, try something." -- Franklin Roosevelt

 
 
 
Nerm_L
15.1.11  Nerm_L  replied to  Ender @15.1.7    8 months ago
That doesn't sound progressive to you?

Johnson's Great Society was all about what government would do for people.  Government cannot be the source of progress.  American progress must come from average, ordinary Americans.

Lyndon Johnson was a liberal, not a progressive.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
15.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @15.1.10    8 months ago

This is , part, of what the Encyclopedia Britannica says about progressivism. 

In their efforts to grapple with the challenges of industrialization , progressives championed three principal causes. First, they promoted a new governing philosophy that placed less emphasis on rights , especially when invoked in defense of big business, and stressed collective responsibilities and duties. Second, in keeping with these new principles, progressives called for the reconstruction of American politics, hitherto dominated by localized parties, so that a more direct link was formed between government officials and public opinion. Finally, reformers demanded a revamping of governing institutions, so that the power of state legislatures and Congress would be subordinated to an independent executive power—city managers, governors, and a modern presidency —that could truly represent the national interest and tackle the new tasks of government required by changing social and economic conditions.

I dont see much there that closely conforms with what you are saying.  Progressives wanted to humanize industrialization at the turn of the century, and modernize government to act as a counterforce to corporate dominance. That is what I have always heard and read about progressivism. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
15.1.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @15.1.8    8 months ago

"So he lied."

Hes a politician.  He lies just like Pelosi, Schiff, Harris, Waters, and the rest of them.  The difference is you only freak out when the President dies it.

 
 
 
Ender
15.1.14  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.1.13    8 months ago

I don't freak out, I get disillusioned when people believe him and think he is telling the truth.

 
 
 
Split Personality
15.1.15  Split Personality  replied to  Ender @15.1.2    8 months ago

You missed the lovely bedside whispering?  For shame Ender, for shame./s

 
 
 
Split Personality
15.1.16  Split Personality  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @15.1.6    8 months ago

I wish people didn't have to work in the Pentagon to get the real information.

In general since the late 80's we have annually outspent the reported budgets of

China, Saudi Arabia, India, Russia, France, Japan, UK and Germany combined  by 110%.

The lack of funding is imaginary when a single country spends 50% of it's discretionary funding on it military (fully 15% of all federal spending) and whines about anyone ( Obama) trying to rein in spending  all the while stock piling supplies like jet fuel and toilet paper under the arcane rules of use it or lose it.

How dare an Administration reeling under 21 Trillion in debt, try to balance a budget or cap unrestrained military baseline spending.

Military Spending History

Here's a summary of military spending in billions of dollars since 2003: 

FY DoD Base Budget DoD OCO Support Base Support OCO Total Spending
2003 $364.9 $72.5     $437.4
2004 $376.5 $91.1     $467.6
2005 $400.1 $78.8     $478.9
2006 $410.6 $124.0 $109.7   $644.3
2007 $431.5 $169.4 $120.6   $721.5
2008 $479.0 $186.9 $127.0   $792.9
2009 $513.2 $153.1 $149.4   $815.7
2010 $527.2 $163.1 $160.3 $0.3 $851.6
2011 $528.3 $158.8 $167.4 $0.7 $855.2
2012 $530.4 $115.1 $159.3 $11.5 $816.3
2013 $495.5 $82.1 $157.8 $11.0 $746.4
2014 $496.3 $85.2 $165.4 $6.7 $753.6
2015 $496.1 $64.2 $165.6 $10.5 $736.4
2016 $521.7 $58.9 $171.9 $15.1 $767.6
2017   $523.2 $82.5 $177.1 $35.1 $818.9
2018  Actual $574.5 $88.1 $181.8 $46.4 $890.8
2019 Estimated $657.0 $69.0 $214.4 $26.1 $956.5
2020 Budget $576.0 $174.0 $212.9 $26.1 $989.0

https://www.thebalance.com/u-s-military-budget-components-challenges-growth-3306320

https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/documents/citizensreport/fy2013/2013_report.pdf

https://www.nationalpriorities.org/campaigns/overseas-contingency-operations/

Please note on the chart, the beginning of the Trump era DoD war chest games, like the black ops of old.

Dod OCO slush fund increases by 91.5 Billion over the Obama record spending of 82.5 budgeted for 2017.

and yes, we stupidly pay top dollar to order new equipment while pinching pennies when it comes to repairing damaged vehicles.

Planes and helicopters miraculously don't suffer the same stinginess, budget wise.

That indicates a management problem, not a budget problem.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
15.1.17  Nerm_L  replied to  JohnRussell @15.1.12    8 months ago
This is , part, of what the Encyclopedia Britannica says about progressivism. 

And here is the whole of what the Encyclopedia Britannica says about progressivism which does conform with what I said.

https://www.britannica.com/topic/progressivism 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
15.1.18  Nerm_L  replied to  Split Personality @15.1.16    8 months ago
In general since the late 80's we have annually outspent the reported budgets of China, Saudi Arabia, India, Russia, France, Japan, UK and Germany combined  by 110%.

The United States could dramatically reduce military spending if the military was only responsible for defending the United States.  The reality is that the United States is defending the Pacific Rim, Europe, and global interests.

Cutting military spending will require focusing attention on national priorities rather than global priorities.  Globalism is why the United States spends so much on the military.  Nationalism and a more isolationist foreign policy dismantles the justification for a large military expenditure.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
15.1.19  JohnRussell  replied to  Nerm_L @15.1.18    8 months ago

Trump wants to increase military spending, not lower it. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
15.1.20  Split Personality  replied to  Nerm_L @15.1.18    8 months ago

Thank you for agreeing that it is a management  problem...

 
 
 
katrix
16  katrix    8 months ago

Trump's reaction was hilarious. You could tell he desperately wanted to throw a tantrum - for once in his life, he managed to show some restraint.

 
 
 
Sparty On
16.1  Sparty On  replied to  katrix @16    8 months ago

Too bad Pelosi couldn't ....

 
 
 
Sunshine
17  Sunshine    8 months ago

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