Not Guilty!

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  2 months ago  •  128 comments


Not Guilty!
 

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"Back in June, Speaker Pelosi promised the House would build an ironclad case. Never mind that she was basically promising impeachment months, months before the Ukraine events, but that’s a separate matter. She promised an ironclad case. And in March, Speaker Pelosi said this: 'Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there is something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path because it divides the country,' end quote," McConnell said in a speech on the Senate floor."

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/juliorosas/2019/12/19/mcconnell-senate-floor-speech-n2558275


Today, (the day after the President's State of the Union Address) the US Senate voted on the Articles of Impeachment.


The votes have been cast:

Article 1 (Abuse of Power):

Roll Call Vote: 52 - 48 Not Guilty

Article 2 (Obstruction of Congress):

Roll Call Vote: 53 - 47 Not Guilty



A question of motive:

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Mitt Romney (Liberal Republican)

Mitt Romney was the lone Republican Senator to vote the President "guilty". He claims that his vote was based on a matter of principle. He claims he has rarely been able to sleep past 4:AM over this issue. Who believes that? There is no question that Romney has been a devout adversary of the President. Senator Romney with today's vote had an opportunity to deny the President the desired shutout by Senate Republicans that would have given the President the complete vindication he deserves and he took it. Romney may think he's taking a shot at Trump, but it is moderate Republicans in tough races he may have hurt. Hate is a human failing. Mr Romney had a distinguished career. He brought the state of MA back to a balanced budget and established a health care system that actually worked. It is a sad ending for the man who could have been president.


The self destructive:

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Doug Jones (Alabama Senator)

Alabama Sen. Doug Jones, the most endangered Democrat in this November's elections, just voted to convict President Donald Trump. The only reason Jones has the seat he has is because of the tactics of the Washington Post in making the election about the integrity of the people of Alabama. They got away with it and Jones got his one term. After today's vote Jones is as dead as a door nail.


Thus ends the so called "impeachment" trial of Donald Trump


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Vic Eldred
1  author  Vic Eldred    2 months ago

The Judgement of the US Senate is final.


Rules of civility apply

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago

The only thing that is final is the judgement of history.  And Trump is fucked in that category. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    2 months ago
The only thing that is final is the judgement of history. 

And you are squarely on the wrong side of it!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.2  KDMichigan  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    2 months ago

256

 
 
 
dennis smith
1.1.3  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    2 months ago

Your crystal ball is broken

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
1.1.4  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    2 months ago
The only thing that is final is the judgement of history.

history is written by the winners. todays left are losers and will be remembered in the same light as the weathermen from the late 60's - 70's  as no better than "domestic terrorists"

the more things change the more they stay the same :)

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago

Vic , according to Trump's campaign manager, Brad Parscale,  you are wrong

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Mitt Romney is an irrelevant relic.

The entire Republican Party is united behind @ realDonaldTrump and knows he did nothing wrong.

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Yikes Vic, you said that Trump was wrong in his phone call with Zelensky.  Now the Republican party is poised to officially disown you ( Ronna Romney McDaniel, the chairwoman of the Republican National Committee, and thus the official head of the Republican Party, also said that Trump did absolutely nothing wrong with Ukraine. )

Let's hope your standing as a devoted Trump follower is not in jeopardy.  That wouldn't be fair. 

 
 
 
sixpick
1.3  sixpick  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 months ago

The way I see it, Pelosi's praying has been working and I hope Romney got a pen for his troubled mind.  I mean it should be worth a lousy pen, you know.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2  XDm9mm    2 months ago

TRUMP 2020

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3  Just Jim NC TttH    2 months ago

384

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4  KDMichigan    2 months ago

Well who did not see this coming other than the TDS sufferers?

The left-wing extremist of the Democrat party were/are to stupid with their hate to realize it was destined to fail before it started. 

 

 
 
 
lady in black
5  lady in black    2 months ago

He is guilty, the Senate didn't do their job. If Obama had done the exact same thing you'd be screaming for his head.  

He is still impeached and will forever be impeached

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1  Tessylo  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago

So true Lady.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
5.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago

So was Bill Clinton doesn’t really mean anything now does it? It actually gave Trump a boost in his approval rating. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5.2    2 months ago

What are you talking about?  What's Clinton got to do with this?

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.2.2  dennis smith  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.1    2 months ago

Clinton was also impeached and will remain impeached forever just like Trump. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.3  KDMichigan  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago

And he will forever be acquitted. 

Trumps approval rating is the highest it has ever been.

Thanks democrats. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.1  Dulay  replied to  KDMichigan @5.3    2 months ago
Trumps approval rating is the highest it has ever been.

Yet still NOT above 50%. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.3.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @5.3.1    2 months ago
Yet still NOT above 50%. 

Yet STILL PRESIDENT 100%

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @5.3.1    2 months ago

Does that matter?  Less than 50% of American voters elected him. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.4  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.3    2 months ago

You know that has been the case for multiple presidential elections in America right Buzz? There have been many times that third party candidates received more than 5 % of the popular vote. 

Secondly, 'approval ratings' are NOT votes. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.5  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dulay @5.3.4    2 months ago

Has there been a Gallup or Pew (most trustworthy) approval rating poll taken now, AFTER he delivered the SOTU?  I'd be curious to see that.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.6  Dulay  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.5    2 months ago

No. Maybe they are waiting for people to review the fact checkers websites. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.3.7  Split Personality  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.3.5    2 months ago

The sitting POTUS almost always gets a bounce in the polls that lasts about two weeks...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.3.8  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.7    2 months ago

Well, I suppose that might temporarily at least peg him at more than 50%, so then you're suggesting that it's more realistic to wait a few weeks for a result. 

 
 
 
sixpick
5.3.9  sixpick  replied to  Dulay @5.3.1    2 months ago
Trumps approval rating is the highest it has ever been.
Yet still NOT above 50%. 

That's true, but it's still 3 points higher than Obama's was at this time in his Presidency.  Trump is 49% approval and Obama's was 46%.  The Democrat Media praised Obama his entire time he was in office and they have spent the entire time since Trump was elected condemning him.  The media elected Obama.  The people throughout this country elected Trump.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
5.3.10  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Dulay @5.3.6    2 months ago

Talk about a worthless thing to do considering their ridiculous biases. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago
If Obama had done the exact same thing you'd be screaming for his head.  

I'm quite sure he did, along with most presidents. It is inappropriate, yet I suspect it is fairly common practice.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.4.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.4    2 months ago

It is time for that "fairly common practice" to deist.  But the sham of an acquittal will just show any future POTUS that they can get away with it.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.4.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.4.1    2 months ago
It is time for that "fairly common practice" to deist.

Starting with Trump?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.4.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.4.1    2 months ago
"But the sham of an acquittal will just show any future POTUS that they can get away with it."

I thought Bill Clinton already established that.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.5  XDm9mm  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago
He is still impeached and will forever be impeached

And he will forever be acquitted and STILL PRESIDENT!!!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  XDm9mm @5.5    2 months ago

And Pelosi and Schiff will be forever stained with a baseless partisan impeachment!

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.5.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.5.1    2 months ago

Except it wasn't baseless

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.5.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @5.5.2    2 months ago

Oh, I know, they had so much evidence they couldn't list a single crime!

 
 
 
Jasper2529
5.5.4  Jasper2529  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.5.3    2 months ago
Oh, I know, they had so much evidence they couldn't list a single crime!

But ... but ... Mueller Report! RUSSIA! Collusion! Bribery! Whistleblower! Quid pro quo!  "Ample evidence in plain sight"! Ukraine!

(Did I omit any of Schiff's fantasies of "high crimes and misdemeanors"?)

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.5.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Jasper2529 @5.5.4    2 months ago
But ... but ... Mueller Report! RUSSIA!

Funny how the people who tried to tie this President to "evil" Russia are about to nominate a man who lived in Russia and wants to model our system based on Russia's!

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.5.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @5.5.2    2 months ago
Except it wasn't baseless

If they had so much "evidence" and they did claim that, why then did they insist they needed yet more witnesses and evidence?  Clearly they Democrat House Impeachment Managers lied to the Senators and the American people.

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.5.7  dennis smith  replied to  XDm9mm @5.5.6    2 months ago

Some just don't want to admit that the House case lost

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.5.8  XDm9mm  replied to  dennis smith @5.5.7    2 months ago
Some just don't want to admit that the House case lost

Oh they admit it.  They simply can't bring themselves to verbalize the truth they know and acknowledge to themselves privately.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.5.9  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.5.3    2 months ago
Oh, I know, they had so much evidence they couldn't list a single crime!

Since there need not be a crime, your comment is moot. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.5.10  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @5.5.9    2 months ago
your comment is moot. 

It is?  The President has been found NOT GUILTY!  How's that?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.5.11  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @5.5.9    2 months ago
Since there need not be a crime, your comment is moot. 

Yet the House of Representatives Democrat Impeachment managers claimed on at least 60 occasions that they had ample evidence to convict President Trump.   Yet provided not, as a former President noted, "one scintilla" of anything. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.5.12  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.5.10    2 months ago

The Senate verdict has no baring on whether your comment is moot. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.5.13  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.5.5    2 months ago
Funny how the people who tried to tie this President to "evil" Russia are about to nominate a man who lived in Russia

Who lived in Russia an why does that matter? 

and wants to model our system based on Russia's!

Russia is a representative democracy, at least according to Vlad...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.5.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @5.5.12    2 months ago

Sorry, but you can't declare anything an impeachable offense. The Senate just proved that - and it goes directly to the argument you have erroneously made!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.5.15  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Dulay @5.5.13    2 months ago
Who lived in Russia an why does that matter? 

Didn't Sanders spend his honeymoon there?

Doesn't he describe himself as a Socialist?

 
 
 
Dulay
5.5.16  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @5.5.11    2 months ago
Yet the House of Representatives Democrat Impeachment managers claimed on at least 60 occasions that they had ample evidence to convict President Trump.   

There was and is. 

Yet provided not, as a former President noted, "one scintilla" of anything. 

What former President said that? Link? 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.5.17  Dulay  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.5.14    2 months ago
Sorry, but you can't declare anything an impeachable offense.

I declared no such thing. Save your strawmen for those who play that game. 

The Senate just proved that - and it goes directly to the argument you have erroneously made!

Really Vic? How? Please be specific. 

To be CLEAR, my argument is that a crime need NOT be cited in the Articles of Impeachment. 

You and you fellow travelers had enumerable chances to PROVE that an impeachment Article MUST include a crime and have failed miserably for MONTHS. You've bailed on defending Dershowitz's bullshit multiple times. 

Yet over and over again you revert to your posit from months ago that has been utterly refuted too many times to count and doubled down when Dershowitz was stupid enough to express it on the Senate floor. 

Perhaps it would behoove you to review the idiom:

Insanity is repeating the same mistakes and expecting different results.

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.5.18  Split Personality  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.5.15    2 months ago

Then I can promise you, that neither of us will vote for him.

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Jasper2529
5.6  Jasper2529  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago
the Senate didn't do their job

The Senate did its constitutional duty by trying the "impeachment" case based upon the "evidence" provided by the House. Period. End of story. 

If anything, the Left should be pissed off at the House for not calling all of the witnesses it allegedly had.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
5.7  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago

And re elected.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.8  dennis smith  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago

The Senate did their job, it is the House that did not do its job. He is not guilty and has been acquitted and that is a fact no matter how much you deny it.

 
 
 
lady in black
5.8.1  lady in black  replied to  dennis smith @5.8    2 months ago

Nope the senate did not do their job.

 
 
 
WallyW
5.9  WallyW  replied to  lady in black @5    2 months ago
He is still impeached and will forever be impeached

He is not guilty, acquitted, and innocent, and will forever be not guilty, acquitted, and innocent.

 
 
 
lady in black
5.9.1  lady in black  replied to  WallyW @5.9    2 months ago

Yes, he is guilty

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MUVA
5.9.2  MUVA  replied to  lady in black @5.9.1    2 months ago

No he is forever acquittedjrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif  

 
 
 
lady in black
5.9.3  lady in black  replied to  MUVA @5.9.2    2 months ago
 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.9.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  lady in black @5.9.3    2 months ago

Fear not, like a rabid dog, democrats will not stop until someone stops them:

Nadler: House Democrats Will ‘Likely’ Continue Ukraine Investigation and Subpoena Bolton after Trump’s Acquittal | http:// bit.ly/39bvET6

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lady in black
5.9.5  lady in black  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.9.4    2 months ago

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MUVA
5.9.6  MUVA  replied to  lady in black @5.9.3    2 months ago

Why do you drink kool aid?. 

 
 
 
lady in black
5.9.7  lady in black  replied to  MUVA @5.9.6    2 months ago

Why do you?  

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.9.8  Split Personality  replied to  WallyW @5.9    2 months ago

So is Billy Bob...

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Tessylo
6  Tessylo    2 months ago

What a sham of a 'trial'

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
6.1  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Tessylo @6    2 months ago

The sham was what happened in the House of Representatives.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @6.1    2 months ago

I think the entire universe would agree!

 
 
 
Tessylo
7  Tessylo    2 months ago

Trump got away with it with the 'Russian hoax' so he figured he could get away with this Ukranian quid pro quo deal.  

He thinks he's invincible.

Acquitted for now.

IMPEACHED ALWAYS 

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
7.1  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Tessylo @7    2 months ago

And when he gets re elected we will never let you all hear the end of it for four more years! 

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @7.1    2 months ago

Same right back at ya!  

But rest assured we'd never let you forget it if tRump loses

Although I kind of doubt a lot of tRump supporters will still be be around here if he does lose

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @7.1    2 months ago

An amazing feat when you think about it. Who were the other presidents, in our lifetime, who faced similar adversity? 

Only 2 come to mind:

George W Bush was somewhat harassed by progressive politicians & the media. He made concessions.

LBJ was hounded by the anti-war movement and announced he would not seek another term!

Only Trump, who faced all the forces of the deep state, progressive politicians and the left wing media persisted and overcame all of it!  What a great story it is!!!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    2 months ago

More far right propaganda. It is becoming completely predictable. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    2 months ago
Only Trump, who faced all the forces of the deep state, progressive politicians and the left wing media persisted and overcame all of it!  What a great story it is!!!

Who in the world do you think that impresses? 

That sounds like Dear Leader bs. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
7.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.4    2 months ago
Who in the world do you think that impresses? 

Says the man now impressed with Mitt Romney. Is that the same Romney with the  'binders full of women,' the man dismissing '47%' of voters?  Remember?

Funny how things change!

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @7    2 months ago
IMPEACHED ALWAYS

And ACQUITTED ALWAYS and STILL your President.

 
 
 
lady in black
7.2.1  lady in black  replied to  XDm9mm @7.2    2 months ago

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WallyW
7.3  WallyW  replied to  Tessylo @7    2 months ago
IMPEACHED ALWAYS 
Which means nothing

 
 
 
lady in black
7.3.1  lady in black  replied to  WallyW @7.3    2 months ago

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Jasper2529
8  Jasper2529    2 months ago
Synonyms of  acquit

1 to free from a charge of wrongdoing

Synonyms for acquit

https://www.merriam-webster.com/thesaurus/acquit

 
 
 
Jasper2529
9  Jasper2529    2 months ago

What's the Difference Between an Acquittal and a "Not Guilty" Verdict?

"Not guilty" and "acquittal" are synonymous.

A verdict of not guilty constitutes an acquittal. In other words, to find a defendant not guilty is to acquit. At trial, an acquittal occurs when the jury (or the judge if it’s a judge trial) determines that the prosecution hasn’t proved the defendant guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. (But see  Jury Nullification .)

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-s-the-difference-between-acquittal-guilty-verdict.html

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
9.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Jasper2529 @9    2 months ago

384

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
9.1.1  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @9.1    2 months ago

Lol!  

 
 
 
dennis smith
9.2  dennis smith  replied to  Jasper2529 @9    2 months ago

The whiners will continue to whine.

 
 
 
Split Personality
9.2.1  Split Personality  replied to  dennis smith @9.2    2 months ago

On both sides, apparently...

 
 
 
dennis smith
9.2.2  dennis smith  replied to  Split Personality @9.2.1    2 months ago

Usually they both do. This time the Dems are still doing it even after the acquittal.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Its funny how when conservatives talk about this they never use the I word.  You know , innocent.

They talk about Pelosi, Schiff, Clinton, Obama, Comey, McCabe, the whistleblower, Rachel Maddow, Rosie O'Donnell, Colin Kaepernick, Beyonce, anyone and everyone who ever insulted Trump, but they never make an argument that Trump didnt do what he was accused of. 

Romney strongly implied today that he had no choice but to vote guilty. 

Why would that be? Because the evidence was overwhelming. 

Right now Trump feels invincible, but he will fuck up in 20 more ways between now and the election. 

He is going to lose badly. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
10.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 months ago
They talk about Pelosi, Schiff, Clinton, Obama, Comey, McCabe, the whistleblower, Rachel Maddow, Rosie O'Donnell, Colin Kaepernick, Beyonce, anyone and everyone who ever insulted Trump, but they never make an argument that Trump didnt do what he was accused of. 

Because we are honest. We said the call was inappropriate, but clearly not an impeachable offense. You have a problem with that concept.


Romney strongly implied today that he had no choice but to vote guilty. 

Why would that be?

Could it have something to do with his long anti Trump stance?


Right now Trump feels invincible

Because the emotional fanatics on the left keep over-reaching and coming out empty handed? Ya, I guess that would fortify his confidence!


but he will fuck up in 20 more ways between now and the election. 

I'll be here if you feel up to a friendly wager.


He is going to lose badly. 

Believe it or not, most people are not progressives!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @10.1    2 months ago
We said the call was inappropriate, but clearly not an impeachable offense.

Who is this "we"? Most of the "conservatives" I have seen say he did absolutely nothing wrong. 

But since you think he did something wrong, what do you think his punishment should be?  Only 6 Bic Macs this week instead of 10 ? 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
10.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.1    2 months ago
Who is this "we"? Most of the "conservatives" I have seen say he did absolutely nothing wrong. 

I don't know about most. It is the President's position and it is a silly one. One that left democrats the easy task of proving that it was inappropriate. From there they get to magically conflate it with a level of impeachment. I have NEVER used that argument!


But since you think he did something wrong, what do you think his punishment should be? 

Punishment for an inappropriate act is usually instantly delivered. Don't you think the whole affair has muddied the President a bit?   Hasn't it finally quelled the progressive thirst for hanging an impeachment on this President?  

 
 
 
MUVA
10.1.3  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.1    2 months ago

The only thing I see Trump did wrong was not get a charge put on Biden.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
10.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  MUVA @10.1.3    2 months ago
 
 
 
Tessylo
10.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 months ago

I can only hope you're right John.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
10.2.1  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  Tessylo @10.2    2 months ago

He’s not.  Last night is the true picture of our awesome President 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Donald J. Trump Fan #1 @10.2.1    2 months ago

Buffoon? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @10.2.2    2 months ago
Buffoon? 

Hell no.

WINNER!!!!!

 
 
 
WallyW
10.2.4  WallyW  replied to  Tessylo @10.2    2 months ago
I can only hope you're right John.
He's never been right.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
10.3  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 months ago

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JohnRussell
10.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @10.3    2 months ago

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XDm9mm
10.3.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @10.3.1    2 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
10.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 months ago

"Its funny how when conservatives talk about this they never use the I word.  You know , innocent."

It's funny the left cant talk about the President without resorting to childish levels of name calling.  

How did that song go..."Dont be a prick in the roses; no on is impressed with your lack of respect; we're all black sheep and we know it; so don't fuck it up for the rest"

At any rate, the house provided ZERO evidence to support either charge.  It was based SOLELY on the fact they lost an election and couldnt handle it.  Their plans failed just like every attempt they used to remove him from office.

So, how does it feel knowing he is STILL your President with a good chance of another 4 years?

 
 
 
BeastOfTheEast
10.5  BeastOfTheEast  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 months ago

The Democratic party is committing suicide by stupidity.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    2 months ago

This was expected.  Without witnesses and documents, Ted Bundy would still be killing women all over the place.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
11.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11    2 months ago

Except the House produced witnesses and documents.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
11.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11    2 months ago
Without witnesses and documents

Maybe you're unaware, but the House Impeachment Managers claimed they had all the evidence necessary to impeach and remove President Trump.  Hell, they claimed that very fact at least 60 times during the Senate trial.

What more exactly was required?

 
 
 
MUVA
11.2.1  MUVA  replied to  XDm9mm @11.2    2 months ago

Just a guess I think they failedjrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11.2.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  XDm9mm @11.2    2 months ago
What more exactly was required?

Bi-partisan politicians setting a better example would have been nice.  Having a President worthy of respect would be better.

 
 
 
dennis smith
11.2.3  dennis smith  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.2.2    2 months ago

America has been clamoring for bipartisan politicians for decades. 

The voters elected the best person running in 2016. Viewed him as more worthy of respect thatn his opponent.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
11.2.4  XDm9mm  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.2.2    2 months ago
Bi-partisan politicians setting a better example would have been nice.

I didn't see you clamoring for bi-partisan House hearings.  Why start now.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
11.2.5  Raven Wing  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.2.2    2 months ago
Having a President worthy of respect would be better.

I so totally agree. It is bad enough having a Senate and House endlessly at each other's throats, that has happened before, and has become more the norm than the unusual. But, Having a President who endlessly encourages it non-stop is truly a cancer to our country and the people.

And....just as bad, if not worse, those in both the Senate and House who actually leave no stone unturned to help promote the bellicose lies and hate that the President eagerly pukes out and claims how great it is for the people. They, like Trump, have no care at all for the people. To them, the people of our country are just fodder for our enemies weapons, and are only good for paying the outrageous bills for his endless golf parties, and paying for all his big donors to rape the land and destroy our environment. To Trump and his supporters, the people have deep pockets so they can more than afford to pay for all Trumps extravagances.

But, when it comes to the people needing help from our government, they can all drop dead for all Trump and his supporters care. As long as it doesn't affect them, or affect their re-election votes, they could care less. And they act like it is taking money out of their own pockets to help those who our government should is there for.

Like Trump, the only thing they care about is being re-elected so they can continue to rape our country and its people, as opposed to working for the benefit of the people who pay their salary.

 
 
 
MUVA
11.2.6  MUVA  replied to  XDm9mm @11.2.4    2 months ago

Bipartisanship is just a word to some. 

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump Fan #1
11.2.9  Donald J. Trump Fan #1  replied to  dennis smith @11.2.3    2 months ago

Trumps 2016 general election opponent was and is worthy of no respect whatsoever.  Same for her supporters. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
11.3  dennis smith  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11    2 months ago

You are correct, the House did not call the witnesses and collect the documents but rather asked/demanded the Senate do it for them.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11.3.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  dennis smith @11.3    2 months ago
the House did not call the witnesses and collect the documents but rather asked/demanded the Senate do it for them.

You can't be serious.  Sondland?  Volker?  Hill?  Yovanovitch?  Vindman? These were just a few of the witnesses who testified in the House proceedings, and were ready to testify in the Senate proceedings had witnesses been allowed.  Here is a longer list of witnesses that were forbidden by the Trump administration to cooperate in the proceedings.  In addition, the White House has repeatedly refused to provide documents relevant to the case.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
12  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 months ago

"Back in June, Speaker Pelosi promised the House would build an ironclad case."

And they failed miserably.....again.

"She promised an ironclad case. And in March, Speaker Pelosi said this: 'Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there is something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path because it divides the country,'"

She "promised".  That should have been the first indication it would fail miserably...again.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @12    2 months ago
She "promised".

Old time politician speak for : Fuck you.  I'll do what I damn well please since you already put me in office.

That's their major problem with Trump.  He's actually keeping the promises he made on the campaign trail.  Hell, he's even keeping the promises the Democrats made, and that REALLY pisses them off.  Now they'll need new bullshit points to try and buy votes.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
12.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  XDm9mm @12.1    2 months ago
He's actually keeping the promises he made on the campaign trail.

It's killing them!

They are down to ripping up his words!

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Jeremy Retired in NC
12.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Vic Eldred @12.1.1    2 months ago

That's all her drunken ass could do.  

 
 
 
Steve Ott
13  Steve Ott    2 months ago

So the Senate was just as partisan as the House. Which means what really?

Come on, the Senate bitched about the House being partisan, so the Senate decides to be just as partisan? But of course, it doesn't count against Republicans. It's a sham. The Senate no more held a trial than you are a shoe.

The outcome was exactly what I predicted. Partisan. The Senate was as much or more tribal than the House.

 
 
 
MUVA
13.1  MUVA  replied to  Steve Ott @13    2 months ago

The house did a shit partisan impeachment and it got the credence that it deserved from the senate zero.You can't start a sham investigation and except it to be respected they should have thrown it out to being with.   

 
 
 
Steve Ott
13.1.1  Steve Ott  replied to  MUVA @13.1    2 months ago

Not that your going to care, because I'm pretty sure your don't. But try to read the below:

The Incomprehensibly Weak Case for Acquittal Without Witnesses

"Yet the president’s lawyers and many senators argue with apparently straight faces that the House’s failure to call John Bolton and others before impeachment—and to litigate the matter to exhaustion—should preclude the Senate’s calling them now. Why?

The answer is quite nonsensical. Here’s how Sen. Lisa Murkowski put it in   her statement   explaining her opposition to witnesses:

The House chose to send articles of impeachment that are rushed and flawed. I carefully considered the need for additional witnesses and documents, to cure the shortcomings of its process, but ultimately decided that I will vote against considering motions to subpoena. Given the partisan nature of this impeachment from the very beginning and throughout, I have come to the conclusion that there will be no fair trial in the Senate. I don’t believe the continuation of this process will change anything. It is sad for me to admit that, as an institution, the Congress has failed.

Pause a moment over the senator’s logic. She seems to be saying that because the House’s product was hasty and deficient and partisan, the Senate should punish the body by proceeding in a fashion that is hastier, more deficient, and every bit as partisan. She will vote to prevent the Senate from hearing evidence, to blind herself to information relevant to her own obligation to decide the president’s case, she says, because “I don’t believe the continuation of this process will change anything.” It won’t change anything, that is, except whether she and her colleagues have access to more, rather than less, probative evidence on the question before them. If the House decision was hasty and partisan and left a record that is incomplete, that would seem to argue for the Senate proceeding in a fashion that was careful and deliberative, and it would seem to argue for senators to behave in a nonpartisan fashion."

Again, the Senate decided the House was partisan, so it didn't matter if they were partisan. Rather like 4 yo kids in the playground. No I'm not, you are. Nyah, nyah, nyah.

A thoroughly thought through position no doubt.

Essentially, the republicans acted as defense attorneys, not jurors. So give it a break dude. Your non-thinking answer is weak.

 
 
 
dennis smith
13.1.2  dennis smith  replied to  Steve Ott @13.1.1    2 months ago

Like it or not, bottom line is the House did not call the witnesses and get the documents but demanded that the Senate do it for them. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
14  author  Vic Eldred    2 months ago

 
 
 
BeastOfTheEast
15  BeastOfTheEast    2 months ago

Nancy the Ripper

 
 
 
BeastOfTheEast
15.1  BeastOfTheEast  replied to  BeastOfTheEast @15    2 months ago

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Raven Wing
15.1.1  Raven Wing  replied to  BeastOfTheEast @15.1    2 months ago

"American Greatness"    jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

Under Trump it is "Once American Greatness Lost"

Trump fornicates with our enemies, and throws his feces at our allies. 

Pelosi had every right to rip up his lies while using the SOTU address for his personal re-election rally at the taxpayers expense. That is the only thing he and his supporters think the American taxpayers are good for. 

Bad enough he rips off corporations and other businesses in his personal business, and now he does the same with the American taxpayers for his own political and personal expenses and thinks they should be most happy to do so. Especially, when he pisses on them in whatever way he can. And his supporters cheer him on.

However, he, and his supporters, will find that there is a price to pay at the end of the game. A price he is scared to death to face.

 
 
 
dennis smith
15.1.2  dennis smith  replied to  Raven Wing @15.1.1    2 months ago

SOTU's in an election year have always been used for campaign purposes and the taxpayers have always aid for them. 

Cherry picking one POTUS and ignoring that others have done the same is nonsense. The rest of your post has just been repeating the repeating Dem mantra ever since the 2016 election. 

 
 
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