What to watch for in tonight's DNC Debate.
Tonight the 11th Democratic primary debate will be held in Washington DC at 8 p.m. ET/5 p.m. PT. Qualifications via the DNC eliminated the lone female candidate Tulsi Gabbard from participation. That leaves the debate stage to Socialist Barry Sanders and former vice president Joe Biden. The moderators will be Univision’s Ilia Calderón and CNN's Dana Bash and Jake Tapper. Immigrant activist Jorge Ramos was to represent Univision, but he was potentially exposed to the coronavirus.
The event will be shown exclusively via CNN.
What to watch for:
1) The type of questions each candidate gets:
Will the establishment candidate (Biden) get softball questions? Will he be helped as Barak Obama was once helped by moderator Candy Crowley if necessary? Will Calderon further the progressive narrative of race having something to do with border security? Will Sanders face tough questioning on the costs of his Socialist agenda?
Please take notes and grade the moderators.
2) The mental stability of Joe Biden:
Will Joe come out as he has been lately waving his finger, trying to look forceful, while making egregious blunders? Will Joe tire easily? Will Joe be sitting in a chair? Will Joe state a gun policy? Will Joe play the race card?
Please observe Biden closely. Make note of how many times he says president Obama and I did this or that.
3) Policy:
We know Sanders policies on health care, education and the current Coronavirus crisis. Joe doesn't seem to have one. Can the moderators get to Joe's positions? Will they allow Joe to make up stories like his being arrested in South Africa?
This may be the last time before the election that we see or hear from Joe Biden.
It could be a useful debate.
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"The former vice president said on Sunday he'll support a policy to make public colleges and universities tuition-free for students with family income under $125,000."
I just found that on NDC NEWS. Looks like his strategy is to divide and divide.
Lol! Somebody evidently told him about the middle class!
I guarantee you if she were on stage, she would steal votes from them both - probably more from Biden. And if she is worth voting for, isn't she worth listening to? I think it's shameful the way the party has gone to such lengths to exclude her.
You may have a point. A small 3 candidate debate would give Gabbard stature & way too much exposure. For some reason the DNC has it in for her. She hasn't done much in the voting thus far, so it was fairly easy to make a rule saying a candidate needed at least 20% of the delegates. After all there are only 3 candidates left. Why not?/s.
I think a big reason for that is that the DNC has been so effective in silencing her. She has missed being in the last several debates, but only just barely.
It seems like it's a result of arbitrary rule changes designed to exclude people like her, Klobuchar, or Yang who actually have polled well at times and been able to raise some money, only to be smothered by the party as soon as they began to make a little headway.
What are the chances one or both of these guys will be dead from Coronavirus by the time of the convention? Then what?
That is a great question, but lets look at the other side of the coin also. What if Trump and Pence were to do the same? Then what?
MEMO TO MODS - neither Tacos or I are death wishing. It is just a what if scenario.
I think if it happens to the Democrats, they can dip into the people who already have delegates. I doubt the party would look outside that group. I also think the movers and shakers in the party would go for Bloomberg before they'd go for Warren. Pete maybe? Frankly, I think it's an odd group, with almost no one really embodying whatever it is the bulk of Democratic voters want. If it were up to me, I'd prefer Klobuchar or Gabbard.
For the Republicans, if Trump drops dead, they'd just go with Pence, I think. Past that, it would be an absolute lottery. I don't think there is anybody obvious (like Hillary or Biden) in the party who is popularly seen as the next likely candidate. Anti-Trumpers like Romney are unpopular for their opposition, but then again, no one wants to be seen as the person to carry on his legacy.
I’m sure Biden is practicing his answers to the question he’s been fed right now.
It’s Bernies last chance as his campaign is on life support. Vermin Supreme was the spoiler for Bernie because of his promise to give every American a free pony. Bernie is going to have to double down on free crap to win those supporters back.
This article is the typical right wing gaslighting propaganda.
Donald Trump can't pronounce the word 'orange' , or many other common words, but we are supposed to freak out because Biden stutters?
The fact is the right is panicking. They know Trump cant use his 'socialist' or 'communist' nonsense with Biden, so their best hope is to smear Biden with other more personal nonsense.
If Biden is senile, Trump is deranged. How do you like them apples?
I hope Newstalkers is ready for all the fake news we are going to start seeing here.
King George VI also had a stutter but it did not stop him from ruling a country.
You know your history. Trump probably never heard of George VI.
The King's Speech was an excellent movie
Yes it was.
The topic is tonight's debate between the Socialist Sanders and the senile Biden.
He didn't really "rule" the country. He was a symbolic "ruler", the country was actually "ruled" (i.e. "governed") by an elected Parliament, Prime Minister, and House of Lords. But George VI was an effective symbol of the resistance against the Nazis and was important for maintaining the unfailing spirits of his people.
Absolutely.
Putting "full stop" after a stupid conclusion doesnt make it suddenly true.
Know what Trump's entire campaign against Biden will be? Variations of "sleepy Joe".
Republicans should be embarrassed they have a candidate with the mentality of an 8 year old.
They wouldn't be embarrassed if they woke up naked on 5th ave. How would Trump like it if during the debates, Biden or Sanders referred to him by his numerous nick names? He would pitch a royal bitch.
Democrats should be embarrassed knowing they have a candidate with dementia. Joe will drop out before the convention for "health reasons" Does this mean I think the communist sympathizer Bernie will get the nomination? nope, not a chance in hell. Back from the dead Queen Hillary arises to save the Democratic party.
Funny how we had the usual invocation of Trump, here when the article is strictly about the DNC debate tonight. The debate will take place. Biden will have to face the camera. The stooge who found himself on his way to the democratic nomination. There will be no place to hide tonight. We know what the so-called moderators will try to do, but somewhere along the way Sanders will force Biden to debate something and Biden won't in any way look like somebody who could fill Donald Trump's shoes.
Interesting that Biden committed to a female running mate.
It is the most important VP selection ever. A young female VP would drive the ticket.
I agree, this would be one of the few things that Biden would have over Trump (other than, of course, not being Trump).
If one is voting for Biden, considering his age, his VP is the thing that would be considered as much as the candidate himself. Any guesses? He said he would appoint the first black woman to the Supreme Court as well. Could we interpret that to mean that Harris would be reserved for the Court and Klobuchar gets the VP?
I think Amy Klobuchar is at the top of the VP list. Harris certainly might be in the running for SCotUS (if Biden is a forgiving soul) but I doubt Biden has given that much thought. I am sure he is just pandering at the moment.
It is after all, the democratic debate.
Them's politics man. VP picks are often strategic to help the PotUS get elected. Cheney was a notable exception. Pence might be an exception too ... I suspect he was picked because Trump pegged him as a sycophant. But Pence does bring the religious vote (and that is extremely important).
A competent, accomplished senator, youth, name recognition and credibility (from her recent campaign) and the first female vice president. The latter being the critical factor.
I am not dismissing Abrams, but bringing the AA vote (against Trump) is not going to be much of a problem. I do not see a significant move from the D dominance in the general.
I agree.
AA will vote for Biden virtually en masse.
As Super Tuesday proved.
If somehow Bernie wins out, the AA vote will be much, much lower.
Why? There is a major difference between running for PotUS and being a running mate.
Do you think many of the AA vote would vote for an R (especially Trump) vs. a D? Where are you observing this major shift?
You have a problem with a differing opinion backed by facts and reason? Not sure my disagreement could have been any more cordial.
Good grief. Another hair trigger.
I think if Biden is the nominee, the AA vote will have a higher turnout than for Hillary. For some reason, they love him.
Probably not, even though I do like her better than any of the Democrats who ran.
If Bernie wins, who he picks will be much more important than who Biden picks, IMO. Bernie is so far left that he would need someone half-way reasonable and practical to balance him out. Biden is vanilla, but that is who the Dems will pick, I suspect, and the VP will be much less of an issue. I think most people really vote for whoever is on the ballot for VP based on who they vote for President.
I do find it a touch humorous how, after bragging about how diverse the Democratic Party is, they end up deciding between two old white guys, though.
Hillary got 88.3% of the black vote. Obama, by comparison, got 93.7%. Having a D next to one's name is the key factor it seems. ( source )
That's nice.
Sometimes the turnout is more important.
I, for one, would prefer to have 75% of the vote with a high turnout than 85% of the vote with a very low turnout.
I believe Biden would turn out many more AA votes than Bernie.
I also believe that Biden would receive a higher percentage of AA votes than Bernie.
Turnout * percentage is of course the key.
Point is, Biden will get the super super majority of the black vote. Does not really matter who the VP is; the votes are his to lose.
Sanders is not going to get the nomination.
Black voter turnout in 2016 saw the first decline in 20 years.
A full 7% decrease for AA was the worst decline on record for AA votes.
Yes, Hillary got a very high percentage of AA votes, but that wasn't nearly enough to offset AA staying away from the polls.
Biden won't have that particular problem.
I think that 7% was due strictly to Democrats running Hillary.
I don't think that Biden will suffer from low turnout among AA. His record on Super Tuesday kind of supports that--he pretty much swept anywhere with a sizable AA population.
I think if Bernie was the nominee, the AA voter turnout would likely be even lower than for Hillary.
Indeed. If Hillary could get 88.3% of the vote, Biden will likely do better in both percentage and turnout.
Biden is free to pick a VP to favor other demographics.
The question is if this voting bloc will go Trump or Biden.
Hillary got 65% of that vote. Obama got 69%.
You could be right.
Guess we'll see in a few months!
Am I wrong or did Sanders get Biden to move left tonight?
Biden promised the activist from Univision that he wouldn't deport anyone (speaking of illegal migrants) during his first 100 days!
Biden promised "no new fracking" during his administration!
Don't forget to go to You Tube as Sanders requested and see if Biden called for cuts to Social Security as a senator.
If Biden doesn't drop out for health reasons before the convention (I think he will) he'll get the nomination and win the presidency. Joe wrapped up the pussy and black vote by promising to select a female VP and appointing a black woman to the SCOTUS. That's a double whammy that will make it near impossible for Trump to overcome.
Joe wins the general in a landslide spending his four years locked in his bedroom mumbling trying to remember who he is. Jill will run the country much like Edith Wilson did after Woodrow suffered a stroke
Stay classy dude! /s
Really? That's how easy it is? Well then Trump should replace the dedicated Mike Pence with Joy Villa. That would solidify an even bigger vote!
I think the Democrats would do better by running AOC, because according to them she's smarter and certainly more moral than Trump, and besides, millions will vote for her as a joke. Maybe I should do a poll to see who the NT members would choose between them.
She is too young to run for president, but fear not - Joe Biden vowed that he is willing to sacrifice millions of American jobs, abandon US energy independence and make energy costs in the US explode!
No problem .... blame Republicans for that when it happens.
The worker drones on the left will be none the wiser.
That will happen...You'll see 'em do it right here!
Vic, now just so you read this properly, I am simply asking a question because I am curious.
I see partisans being routinely unfair in their criticism of 'the other side'. If 'their guy' is attacked they defend. But if the 'other guy' did the very same thing as 'their guy' they attack.
Take the current pandemic. It is my position that no matter who is PotUS, the partisans from the other party will generally blame the PotUS and the partisans from the same party will generally defend the PotUS in his handling of the crisis.
Fairness and objectivity (and in many cases facts and reason) is largely irrelevant here.
Your take?
My take is that prior to Trump we used to rally around the president in times of crisis, no matter who it was. The lone exception might have been the insane narrative of "racism" during the fiasco generated by the lack of preparation during and after the flooding of New Orleans via Hurricane Katrina. Let's face it, that was a political hit job on George W Bush. I'm sure that is being used as a point of reference for the media, just as I'm sure I can hear the rumblings of "we finally got him with this." It's in the air!
Hmmmmm in both cases Republican Presidents who were already very unpopular for one reason or another with a very disaffected left.
Interesting observation Vic .......
Can you imagine if we get two terms from Trump followed up with a brilliant young Republican President in 2024? It truly would be a nation restored. I hope I'm around for that.
Here is the latest:
U.S. airlines discussing $50 billion aid package from government
Anything interesting happen in the debate?
I planned on watching this one but decided to pass out in the lazyboy instead.
You didn't miss much. Biden pledged to name a woman as his VP and to not deport anyone in his first 100 days. Anyone who would vote for either of them in a general election has to really hate the current President.
Lol .... i suppose the fight will be on for which one can appoint the best woman VP but it won't matter.
Any day now Biden will pick up the nomination when it falls out of a package truck in a dimly lit DC alley.
In the middle of the night, while all are asleep.
Nothing to see here ..... move along now and ......
I suppose we could have heard a similar debate going on at a park bench shared by two elderly men in Central Park. It was really memorable when Joe couldn't come up with the name "Ebola" and simply said “what happened in Africa."
I fell asleep after watching for one hour and 15 minutes, but I kept notes while I was awake. Biden mentioned his (Obama) Situation Room involvement regarding Obamacare, Ebola, and H1N1 at least 6 times.
He better be careful with that one.
Compared to what is happening with this one, they way the Obama admin reacted to the H1N1 virus could really bite him in the ass.
Yep, but we have to remember that this is Obiden we're talking about. He's already forgotten that he and his BFF waited 6 months to call H1N1 a national emergency and around 1,000 people had died from it.