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Trump is right again: Internal 'disinfecting' of people is already being done

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  4 years ago  •  178 comments

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Trump is right again: Internal 'disinfecting' of people is already being done
As American Thinker reports, the medical treatments and techniques the president was discussing, while tied specifically to Bryan’s statements, are actually real. One of the available cancer treatments, for example, is Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation Therapy. Ultraviolet light has actually been known for some time to destroy nucleic acids while disrupting DNA. It’s a ‘disinfectant,’ in other words.

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As usual the biased liberal elite lamestream media gets it wrong.  Trump was right to question and discuss what he was talking about.  


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Friday’s news cycle in the mainstream media was dominated by patently false claims that President Donald Trump ‘recommended’ that everyone either bathe themselves in Lysol disinfectant or inject into their bodies to ‘cure’ themselves of the Chinese coronavirus.

The clown show news networks also replayed a clip time and time again that  seemed  to show the president saying that very thing.

“And then I saw the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way we could do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning,” Trump said during his White House press briefing. “As you see it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

Wow, sure sounds like just what the media claimed, huh?

Except that the president was responding to some really important information that by Bill Bryan, Under Secretary for Science and Technology at DHS, relayed during the same press conference.

He said that research done by his agency shows “that solar light appears to have on killing the virus, both surfaces and in the air. We’ve seen a similar effect with both temperature and humidity as well, where increasing the temperature and humidity or both is generally less favorable to the virus.”

So, in other words, summer may be our best defense after all.

That was  very  important information that the vast majority of Americans have not heard yet because the conga line of clowns who pretend to be journalists but are really activists for the Democrat Party decided to concentrate on mocking the president instead. As usual.

Only, they were wrong about  him , too — because they are generally wrong about everything.

As  American Thinker reports , the medical treatments and techniques the president was discussing, while tied specifically to Bryan’s statements, are actually real. One of the available cancer treatments, for example, is Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation Therapy.

Ultraviolet light has actually been known for some time to destroy nucleic acids while disrupting DNA. It’s a ‘disinfectant,’ in other words.

And to Bryan’s point, ultraviolet light is a major reason why it’s one of the most effective ways to destroy COVID-19 when it’s aerosolized or on surfaces. The question, of course, is whether that same ultraviolet energy can be employed inside the body.

The answer is yes , and it’s not even new:


Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation, also called Photoluminescence Therapy, is intravenously applied ultraviolet energy. Due to its profound photochemical, biochemical and physiological effects it has been of great value in a wide variety of diseases according to over 100 years of research findings. Niels Ryberg Finsen is considered the father of Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation. In the late 1890s, he treated various skin conditions with Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation and he and his successors reported a success rate of about 98% in curing lupus vulgaris, a tuberculosis-like disease of the skin and mucous membranes. In 1903, he was awarded the Nobel Prize for his research in photochemotherapy,

And  since 1989 , hydrogen peroxide has been used intravenously as well to kill bacteria and viruses:


In IV H2O2 therapy, Hydrogen peroxide is infused into the circulatory system through a vein in the arm. 

The effect of singlet oxygen in  the human body is twofold.  It kills, or severely inhibits the growth of, anaerobic organisms (bacteria and viruses that use carbon dioxide for fuel and leave oxygen as a by-product).  This action is  immediate on contact with the anaerobic organism . Anaerobic bacteria are pathogens, the organisms which cause disease. All viruses are anaerobic.

Now, there is also  evidence  that this latter treatment can be dangerous, so we’re not advocating it at all; I personally know nothing about it.

But that’s beside the point, which is this: The president, whom Dr. Deborah Birx explained had just been given the information prior to his press conference and was still digesting it, nevertheless was attempting to highlight potential COVID treatments that will save lives and protect the country.

And  that  should have been the focus of the garbage media’s attention but it wasn’t because most of those pretenders are more interested in playing “gotcha” games with the president by taking him out of context and ridiculing him like children.

To the detriment of the country.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

The president, whom Dr. Deborah Birx explained had just been given the information prior to his press conference and was still digesting it, nevertheless was attempting to highlight potential COVID treatments that will save lives and protect the country.

And  that  should have been the focus of the garbage media’s attention but it wasn’t because most of those pretenders are more interested in playing “gotcha” games with the president by taking him out of context and ridiculing him like children.  

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1  devangelical  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    4 years ago

trumpski needs a 3rd covid-19 team just to explain what he really meant to the media, and then to himself........ what a fucking moron.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  devangelical @1.1    4 years ago

We already have the lamestream media to lie about and distort everything he ever says anyway.  We simply don’t care anymore .  They are dead to us.  We don’t read them. We don’t watch or listen to them and we don’t communicate with others through them.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.1.2  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.1    4 years ago

What we have is trump being filmed ranting stupid, illiterate insanity.

The media just pushes the 'record' button and stands back to watch the train wreck that is Trump bloviating on camera. 

Trump, not the media, is his own worst enemy.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2  bugsy    4 years ago

What you are going to see now is an attempt at an argument of a claim that was never made. They are going to try and get you to defend Trump saying to drink Clorox., in which he never said

In one of my posts either yesterday or the day before, I said something to the effect that maybe Trump had heard something about a treatment that he did not know enough about and should have waited to say something until further information was concrete.

From this article and Dr Birx statement, I was right again.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bugsy @2    4 years ago

The media were either stupid or malicious when they misreported Trump's words. What Trump said was straightforward and thoughtful:

“And then I saw the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way we could do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning,” the president said during his White House press briefing. “As you see it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that.”

The American media, however, collapsed in paroxysms of laughter. That stupid Donald Trump. He’s telling people to drink Lysol. Speaking of those same media folks, Ben Rhodes, who was “Obama’s foreign-policy guru,” had this to say:

“The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old, and their only reporting experience consists of being around political campaigns. That’s a sea change. They literally know nothing.”

Monica Showalter, who knows a great deal, explained in her post that ignoramuses have always laughed at visionaries. In this case, though, Trump wasn’t just a visionary. What he theorized has already been happening.

One of the available treatments for cancer is Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation Therapy. Ultraviolet light has long been understood to be a disinfectant that destroys nucleic acids and disrupts DNA. The sun’s ultraviolet light is why it’s one of the most effective ways to destroy the COVID-19 virus when it’s on objects or aerosolized. The question is whether that same ultraviolet energy can be used inside the human body. Apparently, it can:  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bugsy @2    4 years ago

In Trumps defense not that he should have to have one but his statements were in the form of questions and the expert there seemed to be agreeing with where he was going with should have been more than enough for any rational objective intelligent person to know he was not talking about Clorox or Lysol. That is for the realm of idiots.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bugsy @2    4 years ago

I will not even for a minute defend that or accept the Willful and deliberate lies that he said anything like that.  Just simply defy the lamestream media and ignore all that it’s defenders and advocates have to say to twist his actual words into some expletive deleted lie about what they want to believe he said.  

 
 
 
squiggy
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3  squiggy    4 years ago

"..most of those pretenders are more interested in playing “gotcha” games with the president by taking him out of context and ridiculing him like children."

...one of the big takeaways.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  squiggy @3    4 years ago

Indeed it is.  TDS is strong on the left.  

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
4  squiggy    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  squiggy @4    4 years ago

Well said!  👍👏🗽

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    4 years ago

This is all beyond ridiculous and really shows the elemental dishonesty of Trump and many of his followers. 

Trump has said 

"I was asking a very sarcastic question to the reporters in the room about disinfectant on the inside ."

Trump himself says the question was not serious. Yet now you want us to believe he has some sort of ability to randomly land on scientific and medical insights. I guess because he has a big brain or something. 

Trump butt lickers will literally say anything to try and take responsibility for his words off this fools shoulders.  

Fotunately the American public is catching on to all this bamboozling. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 years ago

What he was saying to the expert that had just made a presentation and what he said to the media are different things.  There is no doubt that these articles here are correct.  As are Trump and his supporters.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    4 years ago

You dont even understand the point. 

Trump has admitted that he was not serious about what he said about "disinfectant". He says he was taunting the media. 

Everything conservatives say in defense of Trump is bamboozling. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.1    4 years ago
You dont even understand the point. 

And exactly which point would that be?

The point that the press basically lied and misrepresented what Trump ASKED?

The point that far too many leftwing nutjobs believe the press despite being able to view and hear for themselves what he actually asked?

 
 
 
cjcold
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5.1.3  cjcold  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.2    4 years ago

It's all on YouTube for those who missed his live idiocy. 

Yes, Trump makes a fool of himself on TV on a daily basis.

One does not have to believe the press to watch a live feed of the president telling idiotic lies and patting himself on the back for the accomplishments of others.

 
 
 
squiggy
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5.2  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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5.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 years ago
Trump himself says the question was not serious. Yet now you want us to believe he has some sort of ability to randomly land on scientific and medical insights. I guess because he has a big brain or something. 
Trump butt lickers will literally say anything to try and take responsibility for his words off this fools shoulders.  
Fotunately the American public is catching on to all this bamboozling. 

Oh, gosh STOP THE PRESSES!!!!!!!

Trump asked a freaking question and we will not rest until we crucify him for it!!!!

You did, however, get one thing right, at least.

Americans ARE catching on to the press' bamboozling America.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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5.3.1  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3    4 years ago
Americans ARE catching on to the press' bamboozling America.

That is one reason American Thinker is banned from NT.

Thanks for pointing that out.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.1    4 years ago

Trump asked a question, and the lamestream media made it out like he recommended ingesting disinfectant.

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XXJefferson51
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5.3.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.1    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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5.3.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @5.3.2    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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5.3.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.1    4 years ago

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Paula Bartholomew
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5.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @5    4 years ago

Trump only says that something is a joke or sarcasm when he gets busted for something stupid he says.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.4    4 years ago

🦠💩🤮

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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5.4.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.4.1    4 years ago

Right back at ya buddy.  Now, go hug your Trumpy Bear and remember to say at least 20 hail Trumps, give the salute and dream of Ivanka wearing a dead ferret as a wig.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6  Split Personality    4 years ago

Another fine example of a Trump Defensive Seed?

As I noted elsewhere yesterday or the day before, Ultraviolet Blood Irradiation can be used to purify blood, particularly in combination with other cancer fighting treatments,  The recommended course is usually 22 weeks. 

COVID19 patients don't have 22 weeks.

Adding hydrogen perooxide to someones blood?  Sure why not.  There are 1.1 million licensed doctors in this country and roughly 42% work at hospitals,so don't you think it's kind of a miracle that someone at American Thinker would come up with something that would save people in spite of the 500,000 doctors involved in hands on patient treatments?

Come'on, man....

Why not bloodletting?  That was once an acceptable course of treatment too.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @6    4 years ago

The American Thinker did NOT "come up" with anything.

Doctors and scientists were all heavily involved in these type of treatments.

To pretend otherwise is foolish.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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6.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1    4 years ago

AT is grasping at experimental cancer treatments that any qualified doctor knows will not work on this virus.

It might produce  website hits and advertising income but beyond that they are doing a disservice to the American

public.

As a cancer treatment in animals hydrogen peroxide therapy showed some success, in people not so much.

While some of the early studies done about hydrogen peroxide and cancer seem promising, more recent research reveals major problems. For example, researchers now know that cancer cells don’t survive better in an environment without oxygen.

Cancer cells grow without oxygen because they spread so quickly that blood vessels can’t deliver oxygen to them fast enough. Cancer cells can survive with or without oxygen. Flooding them with oxygen won’t stop their growth.

In addition, suggests that cancer cells produce their own hydrogen peroxide, which may help them grow. This suggests that using hydrogen peroxide as a cancer treatment can actually help cancer cells survive.

What are the risks?

Hydrogen peroxide can be dangerous to humans when swallowed or injected.

If you have some hydrogen peroxide in your medicine cabinet, it’s likely a 3 percent concentration. When swallowed, 3 percent hydrogen peroxide can cause stomach irritation and even chemical burns in some cases.

Hydrogen peroxide cancer treatments usually involve 35 percent hydrogen peroxide. This is more than 10 times stronger than what you find in a brown bottle at most drug stores.

In 2006, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration issued a warning against using 35 percent hydrogen peroxide as a medical treatment, claiming it can cause serious health problems, including death.

Injecting 35 percent hydrogen peroxide can cause:

  • inflammation of the blood vessels at the injection site
  • oxygen bubbles that block flood flow and lead to gas embolisms , which can be fatal
  • destruction of red blood cells (red cell hemolysis)
  • kidney failure

Drinking 35 percent hydrogen peroxide can cause:

  • mouth, throat, and stomach burns
  • ulcers
  • foaming at the mouth
  • stomach bloating
  • loss of consciousness
  • trouble breathing

Simply breathing in the vapors of 35 percent hydrogen peroxide can cause breathing problems as well as fainting. You can also develop blisters or a severe burn if your skin has any contact with it.

The bottom line

While hydrogen peroxide might sound like a safer alternative to traditional cancer treatments, including chemotherapy, there’s a reason doctors don’t use it or recommend it.

The high-strength hydrogen peroxide that some people recommend using as a cancer treatment is extremely dangerous, especially when you take it internally.

It can cause several severe conditions, from organ failure to a fatal embolism.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.1    4 years ago

And the AT didn't come up with any of them.

isn't that what you claimed earlier?

There are 1.1 million licensed doctors in this country and roughly 42% work at hospitals,so don't you think it's kind of a miracle that someone at American Thinker would come up with something that would save people in spite of the 500,000 doctors involved in hands on patient treatments?

Sounds more like to me that the AT was merely reporting what treatments have been tested. Anything wrong with that?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.2    4 years ago

That it was them that said it...They did mention that hydrogen peroxide did have potential harmful effects as well.  

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7  bbl-1    4 years ago

Ahh, "Stormy Who" and let it go at that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @7    4 years ago
Ahh, "Stormy Who" and let it go at that.

Ding, ding, ding!!

We have a winner!!

Congrats on being the first to try to derail the seed and being completely off-topic!

Here's a cookie!

 
 
 
bbl-1
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7.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1    4 years ago

'derail what seed'?  Pardon me but I think your slip is showing.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @7.1.1    4 years ago

Are you simply incapable of stuffing your TDS down deep long enough to actually comment on topic?

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    4 years ago

Trump Defensive Syndrome?

 
 
 
squiggy
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7.1.4  squiggy  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.2    4 years ago

It has just become that inherent - happens without a flinch.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.3    4 years ago
Trump Defensive Syndrome?

Well, let's take a look at the posts logically, shall we?

Was it me who wrote something totally off-topic first? 

No.

Was it me who wrote something trying to bash Trump for something totally unrelated to Covid-19 or the question Trump asked?

No.

Does TDS stand for Trump Defensive Syndrome?

No.

Make up your own acronym--no need to hijack someone else's.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.3    4 years ago

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Ender
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7.1.7  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.6    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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7.1.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @7.1.7    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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7.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @7.1.7    4 years ago

Probably 3/4 of all that I seed here is what you describe in one way or another.  

 
 
 
Ender
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7.1.10  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.9    4 years ago

When you admit that you search around to find the most partisan, on the verge/line articles and sites you can, just to get a rise out of people, that tells me all I need to know.

You are not doing it for some perceived persecution nor are you doing it for some censorship.

You admitted your reasons why you do it on several occasions.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @7.1.10    4 years ago

[Deleted]

[Further meta will result in points toward suspension.]

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1.13  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.5    4 years ago
Does TDS stand for Trump Defensive Syndrome?

No.

Make up your own acronym--no need to hijack someone else's.

because there is no such thing as TDS

no matter how you assign words to the letters?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.13    4 years ago

TDS is a euphemism.

 
 
 
squiggy
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7.1.16  squiggy  replied to  Ender @7.1.10    4 years ago

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Ender
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7.1.17  Ender  replied to  squiggy @7.1.16    4 years ago

Yep,

512

 
 
 
squiggy
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7.1.18  squiggy  replied to  Ender @7.1.17    4 years ago

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Ender
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7.1.19  Ender  replied to  squiggy @7.1.18    4 years ago

Any one with a brain can look at that face and tell who is the one that is 'mad'.

And I mean mad as insane...

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1.20  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.15    4 years ago

I can see how you could try to make that case, but it's just an Acronym.

A confusing acronym apparently if the Urban Dictionary is any sort of "authority".

Trump Derangement Syndrome , is the unwavering adoration and devotion to a political leader, beginning with Donald Trump the namesake of the disorder, extending to other forms of leadership including presidents and rulers typically of a fascist or populist nature. While the name is meant to have pejorative connotations the actual condition is characterized primarily by behaviors found in in "cult of leader" or " cult of personality " scenarios.
"Trump is a real player, back in the day he fondled all the ladies," "I know man, but my pastor at church LOVES Trump", "TDS man, Trump said it himself, he could shoot a man on Fifth Ave in NYC and his base would not leave him, TDS, his followers are devout !"
also listed as Trump delusion syndrome, Trump Defender Syndrome, Trump Denial syndrome
and a host of others not suitable for NT or the family dinner table.
Or maybe it's just opposite day again...
4, 3, 2 1...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.20    4 years ago

TDS is an acronym for Trump Derangement Syndrome, a term applied to people who express deep loathing and fear of President Donald Trump. It's usually used by Trump supporters for liberals. It's usually used by Trump supporters for liberals.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.22  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.21    4 years ago

Exactly right.  So many here suffer from the only correct version of TDS as you stated.

 
 
 
squiggy
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7.1.23  squiggy  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.22    4 years ago

Those guys must think OMB has something to do with money.

 
 
 
Split Personality
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7.1.24  Split Personality  replied to  squiggy @7.1.23    4 years ago

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Split Personality
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7.1.25  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.21    4 years ago

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love it when that happens.....

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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7.1.26  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.21    4 years ago

And it is a made up term meant to annoy. It does not exist in the DSM V. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.27  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.25    4 years ago

Type TDS into your browser window then.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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7.1.28  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.22    4 years ago

Trump Denial Syndrome... sure do!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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7.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.26    4 years ago
And it is a made up term meant to annoy. It does not exist in the DSM V. 

Do you believe I seriously think it is an actual disease?

Come on!

SMH

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.31  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.28    4 years ago

Disinfecting The Left-Wing Media | The American Spectator                            

New lows of anti-Trump hysteria and smears after the president raised intelligent questions about ways to fight the Coronavirus.                          As well as President Trump has done in those daily press briefings discussing the federal government’s fight against the Wuhan ChiCom virus, it might be time to put those to bed.

The reason? He’s beaten the Democrat activists in the White House press corps to a pulp, he’s destroyed their credibility, and he’s captured as much of the confidence of the American people as he can in those press conferences. And at this point the Dem activists are simply going to report what they want to report, the facts and reality be damned. Trump has noticed that, skipping the briefing on Saturday and expressing frustration with the media’s refusal to offer anything like responsible journalism on the virus.

A good example of that came last Thursday, when Trump had Acting Undersecretary of Science and Technology for the Department of Homeland Security Bill Bryan at the podium to discuss a new study indicating that the presence of UV light, as in sunlight, was very effective in killing the Wuhan virus in open air, and also indicating that the virus died off very quickly in the presence of disinfectants. Bryan offered a good deal of information to indicate that the outdoors could be a tonic environment for those exposed to the virus, but not much of it was reported.

Why? Because the president, interested in the findings of the study, asked a few questions about whether the study could open up the possibility of new methods to treat the virus. Specifically, he asked about whether UV light could be used inside the body, perhaps in the lungs, to kill the virus — and also whether disinfectants could be infused into the body of a virus patient.

Maybe it’s inappropriate to hold a brainstorming session on different ways for doctors to kill the virus within the framework of a press conference. Or maybe its refreshing to see ideas discussed in the open. Your opinion might be colored by your opinion of the president.

Or your opinion of the legacy media, which immediately reported that Trump was suggesting people huff Lysol. That idiocy spread so quickly that the makers of the household disinfectant put out a statement begging people not to swallow their product, as though somehow that’s what Trump was saying.

It turns out that there are actual practical methods being employed to use UV light and disinfectants on an experimental basis with respect to treating the Wuhan virus. Whether Trump was aware of them or not when he asked the question, he isn’t the only one thinking along those lines.

Doctors at Cedars-Sinai hospital in Los Angeles have been working on applications of UV light inside the body. In fact, last October they published an abstract of research into that very thing — an entry in the United European Gastroenterology Journal discussed “Internally Applied Ultraviolet Light as a Novel Approach for Effective and Safe Anti-Microbial Treatment.” And with the appearance of the Wuhan virus making effective forms of treatment highly important, a company called Aytu BioScience has invented something called the Healight, which is essentially a probe emitting beams of UVA light into the body of virus patients on ventilators, doing almost exactly what Trump was talking about.

Here’s the YouTube video explaining the device. Whoops! Sorry. YouTube won’t allow you to see it for some reason — new and/or experimental treatments, especially those referred to by the president, can’t be discussed on YouTube. At the Healight website, the video is posted in Vimeo format. Also, there’s a “fan video” still on YouTube describing the device.

As for the use of disinfectants inside the body, that isn’t unprecedented, either. No, nobody uses Lysol. But hydrogen peroxide, which is a well-known disinfectant, has been used internally for quite some time against infections. This, from two weeks ago…

Amid the COVID-19 pandemic, H2O2 may help fight the coronavirus, according to Dr. Thomas Levy. He said people can utilize hydrogen peroxide using its aerosolized form in a standard nebulizer.

Levy suggested using at least a 3 percent food grade hydrogen peroxide. It is important to know that some products have higher concentrations and people should inhale only 3 percent.

How Hydrogen Peroxide Works Against Coronavirus

The potential COVID-19 treatment mainly targets infected cells. Viruses move around the body by infecting live cells that replicate viral DNA and RNA.

A recent study, published in the Journal of Hospital Infection, shows that even just 0.5 percent hydrogen peroxide could kill human coronaviruses, such as those that caused SARS and MERS. The findings backed a 2009 research that found inhaling vaporized hydrogen peroxide could lead to 99 percent inactivation of virus activities.

Vaporized hydrogen peroxide has long been considered effective in removing viruses. Researchers in 1997 discovered that the compound could completely inactivate a range of exotic animal viruses.

Another way to “disinfect” internally would be to use ozone, which is a method for treating infectious disease going back more than 100 years. A company in Texas has been touting ozone therapy as a potential treatment for the Wuhan virus, but just like in the case of the Healight, the media establishment and the public health bureaucracy came down like a ton of bricks on them, calling it a “sham” treatment.

Whether it is or it isn’t, we aren’t going to weigh in on. The point is Trump isn’t the only one thinking along these lines. He isn’t a doctor and he can’t be expected to invent a miracle cure. But as the president attempting to find ways to fight the virus, it’s difficult to understand what’s so wrong about asking those questions.

What’s most obnoxious about all of this is while Trump is being treated like a snake-oil salesman or a moron for discussing things like this — the way the media treated him for expressing optimism about hydroxychloroquine, while doctors all over the country were busy prescribing it to largely good effect, was nothing short of disgusting — it seems like he’s the only one who actually cares about finding effective treatments for the virus.

These geniuses in the mainstream media and their pals in the Democrat party sure are big on telling everybody to stay under self-imposed house arrest, but perhaps your author is the only one noticing they trash every single suggestion for how to treat this thing.

Maybe none of these methods work. Or maybe the media and the Left actually LIKE the shutdown. And what would it say about them if that was the case?  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.33  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to    4 years ago

There is no such thing as a "Nervous breakdown" or "burn out". There are clinical conditions that apply to these old terms of which TDS is not.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.34  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.27    4 years ago
Connect your home to the world with TDS . Bundle TDS TV with high-speed Internet and phone service and save on all three. Check availability in your area  ...
Can't make this stuff up, too funny.
Can't get rid of the vertical address, so, no TDS internet for me.
 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.38  Split Personality  replied to    4 years ago

Good article, recognize yourself?

Post Bush and pre-Trump, we were visited with Obama Derangement Syndrome -- although the infection was less widespread. In a piece headlined "Obama Derangement Syndrome," Vox's Ezra Klein wrote : "Obama Derangement Syndrome is different [than Bush Derangement Syndrome]. It isn't so much paranoia about President Obama's policies as it is paranoia about the man himself — that he is, in some fundamental way, different, foreign, untrustworthy, even traitorous."
At the heart of ODS was the belief that Obama was not, in fact, an American citizen and therefore was ineligible to even be president. The loudest voice pushing that debunked conspiracy theory? None other than Donald Trump.
For the record, both Trump and I agree about President Bush Sr.
Furthermore I agreed with him totally when he said he would step back from the daily briefings and let Pence and others carry forward.
That did not last long, but, baby steps, baby steps...
 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.39  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Release The Kraken @7.1.35    4 years ago

TDS is bull that conservatives made up to mock democrats. And btw, please don't make this personal to me. That is against the CoC. 

But this TDS meter is real:

You should take note!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.40  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.39    4 years ago

But since you are not a democrat our use of TDS should not even affect you at all so it can’t be made about a truly independent person.  We have no reason whatsoever not to use the term TDS upon those who truly hate or despise him.  

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
7.1.41  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.39    4 years ago
The origin of the term is traced to political columnist and commentator Charles Krauthammer, a psychiatrist, who originally coined the phrase Bush derangement syndrome in 2003 during the presidency of George W. Bush. That "syndrome" was defined by Krauthammer as "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency—nay—the very existence of George W. Bush".[5][6][7][8] The first use of the term "Trump Derangement Syndrome" may have been by Esther Goldberg in an August 2015 op-ed in The American Spectator; she applied the term to "Ruling Class Republicans" who are dismissive or contemptuous of Trump.[9] Krauthammer, in an op-ed harshly criticizing Trump, commented that—in addition to general hysteria about Trump—the "Trump Derangement Syndrome" was the "inability to distinguish between legitimate policy differences and ... signs of psychic pathology" in his behavior.[8]

Whats funny is it skipped Obama, the catch phrase for anyone who had the audacity to talk about Obama was called a racist and it's still in use.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.42  Split Personality  replied to  KDMichigan @7.1.41    4 years ago
Why would wiki include Obama in a trump definition.
No worries
Loki12 provided a link which also credited Charles K. and continued on...
Post Bush and pre-Trump, we were visited with Obama Derangement Syndrome -- although the infection was less widespread. In a piece headlined "Obama Derangement Syndrome," Vox's Ezra Klein wrote : "Obama Derangement Syndrome is different [than Bush Derangement Syndrome]. It isn't so much paranoia about President Obama's policies as it is paranoia about the man himself — that he is, in some fundamental way, different, foreign, untrustworthy, even traitorous."
At the heart of ODS was the belief that Obama was not, in fact, an American citizen and therefore was ineligible to even be president. The loudest voice pushing that debunked conspiracy theory? None other than Donald Trump.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
Junior Participates
7.1.43  KDMichigan  replied to  Split Personality @7.1.42    4 years ago

I don't know, Why would wiki mention Bush derangement syndrome in a definition of origins of TDS?

Oh never mind I guess that didn't appeal to you in your failed attempt to be contrary. 

256

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.1.45  Split Personality  replied to    4 years ago

Sure you were, lol

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
7.1.46  cjcold  replied to  squiggy @7.1.4    4 years ago

Like Trump lies on a daily basis without a flinch?

His daily lies, idiotic statements and incoherent rants shame all Americans.  

The very day that he is no longer POTUS he will be arrested, charged, found guilty and jailed for a multitude of crimes. 

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
7.1.47  Ender  replied to  cjcold @7.1.46    4 years ago

Did you see his new lie? He actually had the nerve to say that he was dropping the national debt until the virus hit.

In what world?

I am starting to think he is insane and believes his lies.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bbl-1 @7    4 years ago

[Deleted]

Do not repost comments which have already been deleted - sandy

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
8  squiggy    4 years ago

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
8.1  Split Personality  replied to  squiggy @8    4 years ago

Yes! 100%!

Agreed.

jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
8.1.1  squiggy  replied to  Split Personality @8.1    4 years ago

It’s hard to play by phone - don’t make me get up and go out to the meme machine.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  squiggy @8.1.1    4 years ago

Please do so. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
8.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  squiggy @8.1.1    4 years ago

LOL!!!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
8.2  Ender  replied to  squiggy @8    4 years ago

Powerful statement.

Haha

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
8.2.1  squiggy  replied to  Ender @8.2    4 years ago

name-something.jpg

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
8.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  squiggy @8.2.1    4 years ago

That sums up the opposition perfectly.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
8.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @8.2.2    4 years ago

It is funny if you appreciate the humour in non stop partisan nonsense.

Here's one I am posting "for a friend", lol.

800

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
8.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @8.2.3    4 years ago

I like it. 

Hillary Clinton should be in the top three though. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
8.2.5  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @8.2.4    4 years ago

I will ask the author to add HRC  & Mr. & Mrs Obama

LoL.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9  Ender    4 years ago

Haha...So the 'American thinker' posts an article on what they think donald could be talking about.

I swear, the leave no stone unturned in his defence is ridiculous.

Now you all know he was talking about this? It was something else a day ago...

I have never in my life seen people twist themselves inside out as well as scan anywhere and anything to to justify his idiotic statements.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @9    4 years ago
I have never in my life seen people twist themselves inside out as well as scan anywhere and anything to to justify his idiotic statements.

I have never in my life seen a more dishonest press, or people so willing to swallow the swill the press is feeding them.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.1  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1    4 years ago

Oh yeah, I forgot. donald say press bad, so press bad...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @9.1.1    4 years ago

oh, yeah, I forgot.

Some people swallow anything the left-wing press feeds them.

And common sense is a foreign concept to some of those folks, too.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.3  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.2    4 years ago

And some people are so blinded in their partisanship they think everything they disagree with is left wing.

The right and common sense left the building with the advent of their dear leader.

One that they believe every lie that comes out of his mouth.

Then actually have the nerve to accuse others.

Your meaningless swill is laughed at by sane folk.

 
 
 
The Magic 8 Ball
Masters Quiet
9.1.4  The Magic 8 Ball  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1    4 years ago
people so willing to swallow the swill the press is feeding them.

even fewer people trust the media now than they did in 2016 when trump was elected.

no one is suddenly giving them more credence than they did in 2016

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @9.1.3    4 years ago
The right and common sense left the building with the advent of their dear leader.

Like the idiots who suggested that Trump suggested ingesting disinfectant are exhibiting such a high level of common sense.

Your meaningless swill is laughed at by sane folk.

Hmm...don't see you laughing. jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  The Magic 8 Ball @9.1.4    4 years ago

On the plus side, when there isn't anything really good on tv, you can always count on CNN to distort facts or just outright lie, and sometimes it is such a stretch that it is comical.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.7  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.6    4 years ago

Everyone knows what donald said. The lies come from the ones distorting what other people have said.

Keep watching fox, they love their gullible viewers.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @9.1.7    4 years ago
Everyone knows what donald said. The lies come from the ones distorting what other people have said.

According to CNN, Trump suggested people ingest disinfectant.

Is that true or not?

Look at the transcript of what Trump said and get back to me admitting that CNN lied.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.9  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.8    4 years ago

Don't know. Don't watch CNN.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @9.1.9    4 years ago
Don't know. Don't watch CNN.

Didn't say you did, nor did I ask.

But how about any of these other sites?

https://cnet.com/news/trump-suggests-injecting." > . .

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8251605/.." > .. .

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-suggests-injection.." > .. .

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/2020/04/.." > .. .

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump.." > .. .

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/.." > .. .

https://politicalwire.com/2020/04/23/trump.." > .. .

https://mediaite.com/news/trump-suggests-injecting.." > .. .

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/04/trump.." > .. .

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/trump-suggests.." > .. .

https://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/2020/04/.." > .. .

https://hollywoodlife.com/2020/04/23/donald-trump.." > .. .

https://www.9news.com.au/world/donald-trump.." > .. .

.

https://www.huffpost.com/Entry/Trump-suggests-injecting-disinfectant-light-fight.." > .. .

https://www.vox.com/2020/4/23/21233628/trump.." > .. .

https://www.haaretz.com/us-news/trump-suggests.." > .. .

https://www.thehindu.com/news/international/uproar.." > .. .

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/04/23/.." > .. .

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2020/4/24/1939978/.." > .. .

https://www.salon.com/2020/04/24/watch-dr-birx.." > .. .

https://www.celebitchy.com/661159/donald_trump.." > .. .

They all have one thing in common--lying by saying Trump suggested injecting or ingesting disinfectant.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.11  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.10    4 years ago

Hate to break the news to you butt, someone saying donald suggested injecting disinfectant is not a lie.

Did he not suggest it?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @9.1.11    4 years ago
Hate to break the news to you butt, someone saying donald suggested injecting disinfectant is not a lie.

Yes, it is.

Did he not suggest it?

Obviously not, given the answer to your first question is yes.

Here's the full transcript of Trump's comments:
"So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."

Just go ahead and copy and paste your answer to where Trump suggested people to inject themselves with disinfectant.

According to you, it should be right there in his remarks..

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.13  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.12    4 years ago
lying by saying Trump suggested injecting or ingesting disinfectant.

Your own words. No where in there were we talking about people injecting themselves.

That is called moving the goalpost.

So yes, he did suggest an injection.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
9.1.14  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.8    4 years ago
According to CNN, Trump suggested people ingest disinfectant.

For the record, Trump said 'inject', not 'ingest'.  The video is clear and concise, dear.  Either way, the result is the same:  Organ failure, brain damage, death.  

Look at the transcript of what Trump said and get back to me admitting that CNN lied.

Lied?  Lied about what for crying out loud?!  I'm hearing impaired and I heard what the man said.  

Stop watching CNN and you'll stop getting your feelings hurt when Trump is called out on his extreme and embarrassing idiocy.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
9.1.15  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @9.1.13    4 years ago

He suggested injections of what under what conditions and under the supervision of a what?  

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.16  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.15    4 years ago

So you admit he suggested injections. That is a start...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.1.14    4 years ago
For the record, Trump said 'inject', not 'ingest'. 

That is correct. I made a mistake.

The video is clear and concise, dear.

Yes, it [is Deleted]

Lied?  Lied about what for crying out loud?! 

Yes, lied. About Trump suggesting that people inject disinfectant into their bodies.

I'm hearing impaired and I heard what the man said.  

I'm sorry for your loss. Sometime merely hearing isn't enough. [Deleted]

Here's the full transcript of Trump's comments:
"So I asked Bill a question some of you are thinking of if you're into that world, which I find to be pretty interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether its ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said, that hasn't been checked but you're gonna test it. And then I said, supposing it brought the light inside the body, which you can either do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're gonna test that too, sounds interesting. And I then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in one minute, and is there a way you can do something like that by injection inside, or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs, and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it'd be interesting to check that. So you're going to have to use medical doctors, but it sounds interesting to me, so we'll see. But the whole concept of the light, the way it goes in one minute, that's pretty powerful."

Be dear and copy and paste your answer as to when Trump suggested for people to inject themselves with disinfectant.

Stop watching CNN and you'll stop getting your feelings hurt when Trump is called out on his extreme and embarrassing idiocy.

I watch a little CNN and a little MSNBC. [Deleted]

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
9.1.18  Ender  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.17    4 years ago
Got to keep up with whatever the left has their little panties all twisted up about on any given day

Just for the record, most of the left doesn't watch the channels, as one can see by their dismal ratings.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.1.20  Split Personality  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1    4 years ago
I have never in my life seen a more dishonest press, or people so willing to swallow the swill the press is feeding them.

oh come on, you said that from 2008 through 2016 a hundred times.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @9.1.18    4 years ago
Just for the record, most of the left doesn't watch the channels, as one can see by their dismal ratings.

Actually, they do. It is just that there are so many channels the numbers are just split up into more pieces.

They must, because I have been told so many times that conservatives only watch Fox.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  Split Personality @9.1.20    4 years ago
oh come on, you said that from 2008 through 2016 a hundred times.

Man, you are a terrible guesser.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
9.1.23  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.22    4 years ago
[removed]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.24  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.1.23    4 years ago

removed for context 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
Professor Guide
9.1.25  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.24    4 years ago
Comedy is not for you.

That was damn funny, and you know it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.26  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.1.25    4 years ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
TTGA
Professor Silent
9.1.27  TTGA  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.15    4 years ago
He suggested injections of what under what conditions and under the supervision of a what?

Actually, the injection part is pretty much irrelevant.  How the disinfectant gets into the body doesn't matter.  Whether he was being sarcastic or not also doesn't matter.  I've heard lots of whining and crying both here and elsewhere about Trump supposedly telling people to drink bleach.  Total nonsense from people who don't know much.  Among the things that they don't know is that, if you live in a city and drink city water, you drink disinfectants every single day, including the active ingredient in bleach (chlorine).  If cities didn't put disinfectants into their water supply, considering the amounts of sewage in cities, there would be constant and massive epidemics of Cholera.  Anyone who has been in the military under field conditions, particularly in tropical areas have had even more chlorine put into the water supply.  The amount of infectious organisms in tropical water supplies are enormous and are killed by disinfectants. Most people don't even realize that they are drinking disinfectants when they drink city water.  The ones that do realize it seem to be keeping their mouths shut about it.  I wonder why?????  Oh yeah, THAT reason.

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
9.1.28  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.15    4 years ago

Irresponsible doctors?

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
9.1.29  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.12    4 years ago
Here's the full transcript of Trump's comments:

Except it ISN'T a FULL transcript of Trump's comment because the White House EDITS out what they don't want in print. They've been caught doing so too many times to count. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
Professor Participates
9.1.30  pat wilson  replied to  Ender @9.1.7    4 years ago

Fox = Gaslighting-R-Us

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.31  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1.29    4 years ago
Except it ISN'T a FULL transcript of Trump's comment because the White House EDITS out what they don't want in print. They've been caught doing so too many times to count.

Okay, then post the full real transcript and I will be happy to read it.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
9.1.32  Dulay  replied to  TTGA @9.1.27    4 years ago

It only takes 8 DROPS of bleach [chlorine] to purify a gallon of water. 

What relevance does that have to Trump's brain fart about injections of disinfectant? 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
9.1.33  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.31    4 years ago

Here is the whole video:

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
9.1.34  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.31    4 years ago

Go watch the video Tex. 

The WH changed the transcript AFTER being called out for LYING about what Dr. Dirx said. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
9.1.35  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to    4 years ago

Right on!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
9.1.36  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.33    4 years ago

Msnbc?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
9.1.37  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.6    4 years ago

It is what the mainstream media does. They have no redeeming value. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
9.1.38  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.33    4 years ago

Dr. Birx hits Sunday shows fully ready for ignorant gotcha questions on Trump’s ‘disinfectant’ remark

April 26, 2020Tom TillisonPrint Article
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Democrats and their elitist media enablers continue to push the dishonest narrative that President Trump was advocating for people to ingest a cleaning and disinfecting product like Lysol to counter the coronavirus.

Twisting his words to the point of ridiculousness, the narrative was widely picked up by media outlets in the quest to paint the president as a bumbling idiot — which is an ongoing campaign that began before Trump ever took office.

The maneuver is so over the top that White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx called the media out for it during an appearance on CNN’s “State of the Union.”

After playing a deceptively edited clip of the president’s remarks, anchor Jake Tapper asked what can easily be seen as an ignorant question: “What should the American people know about disinfectants in the human body?”

“That was a dialogue he was having between the Department of Homeland Security scientists and himself for information that he had received and he was discussing,” she explained to Tapper.

“We have made it clear, and when he turned to me, I made it clear and he understood that it was not as a treatment. And I think that kind of dialogue will happen,” Dr. Birx said. “I think what got lost in there, which is very unfortunate in what happened next, is that study was critically important for the American people.”

The study she is referring to is the impact sunlight has on the coronavirus, as well as heat and humidity —  Trump was talking about powerful ultraviolet light being used as a possible deterrent to the virus, referring to it as a “disinfectant.”

With the November election fast approaching, Tapper was determined to score points against the president and continued to misrepresent his meaning.

“[Trump] was talking about ways to take that science and somehow turn it into injecting UV light or disinfectants into the human body which, as you know, especially with disinfectants, can be lethal,” Tapper said. “And the CDC had to issue a statement, Lysol had to issue a statement.”

Pressing on the matter he tried his best to drive a wedge between Birx and Trump.

“I understand that you’re taking a generous approach to this when it comes to President Trump musing aloud, but this is potentially dangerous,” Tapper continued. “Poison control centers got calls from people and they had to issue statements saying do not internally use disinfectants. As a doctor, doesn’t that bother you that you have to spend any time discussing this?”

“Well, I think it bothers me that this is still in the news cycle,” Birx said. “Because I think we’re missing the bigger pieces of what we need to be doing as an American people to continue to protect one another, and we should be having that dialogue…”

Speaking of trying to drive a wedge between the president and members of the White House coronavirus task force, NBC’s Chuck Todd did his level best to accomplish this when Birx appeared on “Meet the Press.”

Todd also misrepresented what he termed “disinfectant injections,” asking the doctor if she’s “concerned that people might take bleach because of what the president said.”

Again, Birx referred to the study on the effects of sunlight on the virus.

Todd set himself up to ask, “Are you concerned the credibility of the scientists on the task force gets undermined when the president now with bleach — obviously, you can’t do that — and Hydroxychloroquine, where the FDA had to put out a statement. I mean, is this undermining the credibility of you and Dr. Fauci and other scientists?”

Unfortunately for Todd and his quest to undermine the president, Birx rose above the media’s petty agenda to talk about the important work being done.

“I think all of us are very clear, and very clear in our discussions with the American people how we’re looking and utilizing data to drive decision-making within the task force,” she said. “Every day, about 2:30 in the morning, I get every single piece of data coming in from every county where we triangulate where is the virus moving, how are people responding to the virus, are we considering absolutely everything to protect American people, and triangulating that data to come up with that day’s work. Where should PPE go? Where should we be talking with governors about a recent outbreak? How do we protect individuals that are in essential services? This is the discussion of the task force, and the physicians and the individuals involved in the task force are every day focused on what’s the most recent scientific evidence.”

In what came across like a parting shot at Birx, as if she was not allowed to formulate her own thoughts, Todd closed the segment by saying, “I appreciate you coming on and sharing the administration’s view. Stay safe and healthy yourself.”    

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.39  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.38    4 years ago

I’ll listen to Dr. Birx over any msm person or source on this issue any day every time.  

 
 
 
TTGA
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9.1.40  TTGA  replied to  Dulay @9.1.32    4 years ago
It only takes 8 DROPS of bleach [chlorine] to purify a gallon of water. 

I didn't say a word about dosages.  Neither did the report say anything, nor did the President.  Your comment made a statement about a question that wasn't asked or even mentioned.  On the internet, I believe that is called a strawman argument.  In a court of law, it is called "Assuming facts not in evidence" and doing it will result in a severe rap on the knuckles by the judge.  Generally, I consider it to be standard technique for those with a lack of reasoning ability.

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.41  Dulay  replied to  TTGA @9.1.40    4 years ago
I didn't say a word about dosages. 

Neither did I. I am talking about the quantity of chlorine it takes to purify water, NOT a dosage. 

Neither did the report say anything, nor did the President. Your comment made a statement about a question that wasn't asked or even mentioned. 

YOU brought up purification of water did you not? 

A 'dosage' connotes the amount needed for a therapeutic agent.  

On the internet, I believe that is called a strawman argument. 

Your belief is false. 

In a court of law, it is called "Assuming facts not in evidence" and doing it will result in a severe rap on the knuckles by the judge. 

AGAIN, YOU brought up disinfectants use in water systems. Are you stating that you didn't state facts? 

Generally, I consider it to be standard technique for those with a lack of reasoning ability.

As with your 'belief', your characterization of my reasoning is false too. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.42  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  TTGA @9.1.40    4 years ago

Well said.  I agree 100%!  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1.43  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1.34    4 years ago
Go watch the video Tex. 

Saw it live and have watched the video of it too.

The WH changed the transcript AFTER being called out for LYING about what Dr. Dirx said. 

Do you honestly expect anyone with a brain to swallow that swill?

"The WH changed it"--like it isn't of fucking video that ANY NEWS channel can make a transcript of. The WH CAN NOT change what the news channels do, can it????

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.44  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.43    4 years ago

Nope.  I watched the press briefing live and you are right.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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9.1.45  Trout Giggles  replied to  TTGA @9.1.27    4 years ago
The ones that do realize it seem to be keeping their mouths shut about it.  I wonder why?????  Oh yeah, THAT reason.

I did discuss chlorine and how it affects E coli, giardia, and cryptosporidium in another seed. You probably haven't gotten around to that seed yet.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.46  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.1.45    4 years ago
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Trout Giggles
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9.1.47  Trout Giggles  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.1.46    4 years ago

WTF???? Why are you aiming that at me?

You are just rude!

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.48  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.43    4 years ago
Do you honestly expect anyone with a brain to swallow that swill? "The WH changed it"--like it isn't of fucking video that ANY NEWS channel can make a transcript of. The WH CAN NOT change what the news channels do, can it????

Reading is fundamental Tex.

I said that the WH changed the TRANSCRIPT. They DID.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1.49  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1.48    4 years ago

Funny, your link states that the only difference is in what Dr. Birx states. 

Not Trump's words. So your claim that the WH edited it is completely meaningless in that it doesn't relate to the press lying and saying Trump suggested injections of disinfectant.

Please at least debate something worth of debate.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.50  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.49    4 years ago

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Dulay
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9.1.51  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.49    4 years ago
Funny, your link states that the only difference is in what Dr. Birx states. 

Wait WHAT? 

You said my claim was 'swill'. Now you want to claim that it's meaningless because the WH only changed what Dr. Birx said. 

Seriously, your comment drips with sycophancy. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1.52  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1.51    4 years ago
Wait WHAT? 

Wait for WHAT?

Why?

You said my claim was 'swill'. 

Yes I did. Is that in dispute?

Now you want to claim that it's meaningless because the WH only changed what Dr. Birx said.

Yes, you have it right.

It is indeed meaningless because no one was talking about what she said--I was talking about what Trump said and how the media and its lapdogs lie about what Trump said.

Not only that, WTF difference does it make if the WH changed the whole damn thing?

His comments were recorded. You get that right? And the news organizations which recorded it can write the transcript of what they recorded.

Why is any of this so hard to understand??

SMMFH

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.53  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.52    4 years ago
Not only that, WTF difference does it make if the WH changed the whole damn thing?

There you have it. You and your fellow travelers don't think facts matter, don't think that the record should be transparent, don't think that the WH's attempt at gaslighting is relevant. I get it, it takes ethics and intellect to believe that all matters and all too many lack both. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1.54  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1.53    4 years ago
There you have it. You and your fellow travelers don't think facts matter, don't think that the record should be transparent, don't think that the WH's attempt at gaslighting is relevant. 

Unadulterated bullshit.

You don't "get" that a transcript can be made of a videotape.

Anyways, you go ahead and focus on something meaningless and not related to the conversation in typical strawman fashion.

I get it, it takes ethics and intellect to believe that all matters and all too many lack both. 

Sounds like a personal problem to me. I don't need to hear what you suffer from.

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.55  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.54    4 years ago
You don't "get" that a transcript can be made of a videotape.

You don't get that they got caught lying and were forced to correct the transcript and that isn't the first time Trump's WH has tried to get away with that form of gaslighting. 

Defend it if you must be stop trying to pretend it didn't happen. 

Sounds like a personal problem to me. I don't need to hear what you suffer from.

It LOOKS like you're back to your usual MO since you can't refute my comment you devolve to making allegations about me.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.56  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @9.1.55    4 years ago

Well, you keep focused on minutiae and I'll deal with the real problems, sans strawman arguments, okay?

You tell us all exactly what part of Trump's comments were changed by the WH and you may actually begin to have some vague point in reference to what was being discussed before you took this off the rails,

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.1.57  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.56    4 years ago
Well, you keep focused on minutiae

You started out so fucking sure that it didn't happen at all that now you have to pretend it's irrelevant. 

and I'll deal with the real problems, sans strawman arguments, okay?

No strawman involved. 

You tell us all exactly what part of Trump's comments were changed by the WH and you may actually begin to have some vague point in reference to what was being discussed before you took this off the rails,

First, who are 'us'? 

Second of all, why are you asking me to answer for something I never said? 

Thirdly, you insisted that my comment about the WH lying was 'swill'. I proved that it wasn't. Deal with it. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1.58  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.56    4 years ago

Are they still trying to say that Trump told us all to drink bleach and inject ourselves with Lysol instead of what he was really talking about? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @9    4 years ago

American Thinker is correct and Trending Politics was right to report on it and highlight it.  The specialist was talking about experimental as well as old treatments for other issues that are being explored and the President was asking questions out loud about it.  That’s all folks!  

 
 
 
Ender
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9.2.1  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2    4 years ago

Uh huh. Sure.

You know what the sad thing is? As much as you worship donald, he would step on you in a heartbeat.

And the really sad thing is, you would take it, if not ask for it to happen again.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @9.2.1    4 years ago

No he would not.  It is the other side that sold out the working class and middle class to China and imported fentanyl to the places they sold out. 

 
 
 
Steve Ott
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10  Steve Ott    4 years ago

So, in other words, the donald was lying when he said he was being sarcastic.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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10.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Steve Ott @10    4 years ago

No, MSNBC, CNN, and the rest were lying 🤥 about what the President said.  Period. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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10.1.1  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @10.1    4 years ago

You know that we can watch it for ourselves right Xx? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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10.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @10.1.1    4 years ago

Yes, I know that you can watch them lie for yourselves. It’s what the lamestream media does.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
10.1.3  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @10.1.2    4 years ago
Yes, I know that you can watch them lie for yourselves.

That's just about every time Trump opens his mouth. 

It’s what the lamestream media does.

Yes, they cover Trump lunatic brain farts as if it were news. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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10.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @10.1.3    4 years ago

Trumps brain farts are more intelligent than any [DELETED]

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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10.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @10.1.4    4 years ago

I’ll just leave it to the oppositions imagination what I was implying then....

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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11  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

The American Thinker? jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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11.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @11    4 years ago

A great source of info that has earned a badge of honor.  As is Trending Politics.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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11.1.1  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @11.1    4 years ago

A badge of honor from where Xx? Please post a link. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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11.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @11.1.1    4 years ago

I will keep to myself why they deserve a badge of honor.  Most of the Christian and conservative alternative media is deserving of such.  

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Expert
11.1.3  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @11.1.2    4 years ago

You said they had already earned a badge of honor. I guess you were just projecting a wet dream. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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11.1.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @11.1.1    4 years ago

From here!  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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11.1.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @11.1.3    4 years ago

I leave those in your capable hand...

 
 
 
Dulay
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11.1.6  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @11.1.5    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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11.1.7  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @11.1.6    4 years ago

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TTGA
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11.2  TTGA  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @11    4 years ago
The American Thinker?

A lot better outfit than The American Whiner About Donald Trump.  Any publication that specializes in nothing but whining about the President deserves nothing but contempt.

 
 
 
Dulay
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11.2.1  Dulay  replied to  TTGA @11.2    4 years ago

Thanks for the fact based opinion. /s

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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11.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @11.2.1    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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11.2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @11.2.2    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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12  seeder  XXJefferson51    4 years ago

The lamestream media has been exposed for the frauds that they are by the conservative alternative media over this issue.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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12.1  cjcold  replied to  XXJefferson51 @12    4 years ago

We all know that Trump loves his conservative alternative facts.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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12.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  cjcold @12.1    4 years ago

We all know that Trump never ever said nor suggested that anyone drink Clorox or Inject themselves with Lysol.  That is nothing more than TDS driven mainstream media talking points.  

 
 

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