Fauci to warn of 'needless suffering and death' if country reopens too soon
By: Rebecca Klar (TheHill)
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Anthony Fauci , the nation’s top infectious disease expert and a member of the White House coronavirus task force, said he plans to tell a Senate panel on Tuesday that there will be “needless” fatalities if the country reopens too soon amid the coronavirus pandemic.
"The major message that I wish to convey to the Senate [Health, Labor and Pensions] committee ... is the danger of trying to open the country prematurely," Fauci wrote in an email to The New York Times.
"If we skip over the checkpoints in the guidelines to: 'Open America Again,' then we risk the danger of multiple outbreaks throughout the country. This will not only result in needless suffering and death, but would actually set us back on our quest to return to normal," he added.
Fauci is one of four administration officials appearing remotely as witnesses to answer senators' questions regarding the pandemic and state openings.
In his email, Fauci referred to the White House guidelines for states to reopen nonessential businesses.
States across the country have started reopening, and in some cases states have not met the recommended requirement of having a 14-day downward trajectory in documented COVID-19 cases before starting gradual plans.
Senate Health Committee Chairman Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.) said Saturday that four administration officials, including Fauci, would appear as witnesses at the hearing Tuesday via video conferencing.
Food and Drug Administration Commissioner Stephen Hahn, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention Director Robert Redfield and Assistant Secretary for Health Brett Giroir will also appear at the hearing.
The virus has infected more than 1.3 million people and killed 80,684 people in the U.S., according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University .
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It show be a real show....The Senate denigrated by Senate democrats trying to get the hapless Fauci to contradict the President.
Let us count how many Trump comments that Fauci will be confronted with.
read the title, cause he SPEAKS THE DAMN TRUTH
thousands more will DIE, after tens of thousands already needlessly have, cause Trump
MUST LIE!
In January he said: "the coronavirus "is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about."
Was that the Damn truth, Iggy?
do YOU not understand what
"RIGHT NOW" means ?
This is a NOVEL Corona virus.
As in NEW, and at that time,
NO ONE KNEW for sure, much. As it was assumed it would act similar to the other Corona viruses, and NO ONE KNEW it would be so contagious.
so as far as Fauci knew at the time based on other similar viruses,
YES, he didn't pull a Trump an PURPOSELY
LIE TO US ALL
Evidently......and over 20 million have lost their jobs.....
and with even more evidence, evidently over 80,000 dead
but Trump can't LIE about this one.
Are you pinning the dead on Trump?
certainly, some people are dead due to what he said
get over it
Waiting until there are no new cases and zero deaths have occurred is a stupid idea and not an option.
The country must get back to work gradually in steps before more lives are ruined.
Trump is not responsible for the appearance of the virus, and he and his team have done the best they can
considering that the Democrats have dragged their feet and tried to slow down the recovery.
Greg, if you get to watch today's hearings, listen to Dr Redfield, he is more level headed than Fauci.
It will be a contentious hearing with the radical dem Senators turning it into a political farce
A drop in the bucket compared to Overall deaths from everything else that occurs in this country....or the planet for that matter.
What is Dr. Fauci's recommendation on a timeline to keep things shut down ?
Is he, and any other government "Agent" giving up their "Pay" in solidarity with the "Population" they say "Can't Work" ?
I want all our readers to look at that.
If Fauci was telling everyone that Trump is great, the right would be praising him to high heavens.
Words fail to express how transparently partisan (to put it nicely) articles like this one are.
Not only that, FAR MORE Americans trust Fauci than trust Trump. And yet we are supposed to assume Fauci is wrong and Trump is right. Its just bizarre.
Dr Fauci is a proponent of killing this particular virus at all costs, damn the economy, lives ruined, et all
The President has done everything Dr Fauci has asked for:
So if it comes down to what was right or wrong - it's all on Fauci
A "Doomsdayer" for sure !
I wonder if he's built a bomb shelter lately !
bizarre doesn't begin to describe and explain how insulated from reality so many are, and choose to remain to be
Dr. Fauci and the Doomsdayers that follow him, remind me of a great movie !
THE NEVER ENDING STORY !
Just say his name...…
!
That was a great movie. The "turtle" was great. "Not that it matters" was a good line.
Same Ol', Same ol'...… with a bunch of Hysteria thrown in.
Doctors are overly cautious when giving medical advice, for them there's no down side to being overly cautious in fact it can prevent a lot of problems for them. The problem is many times their advice is not practical in the real world, they're only concerned with health and health care while we need to be concerned with all aspects of our lives and society at large. I remember when I was a teen my buddy wouldn't pop his zits, he'd have this pustule on his nose and he wouldn't pop it. He said his doctor told him never to pop a zit because it could get infected (as if the pustule wasn't an infection already). I though this was stupid so I asked my doctor and he gave me that same advice "don't pop them or they might get infected" I laughed in his face and I have popped every zit I ever had and never had a problem because I know that a zit is an infection and leaving it to fester is worse than popping it and cleaning and treating the wound. But that's just their medical training (Lawsuit prevention) that makes them give overly cautious advice even though they probably pop their own zits.
"Don't pop a fire ant bite inflammation". It scars.
To this day, I have not one scar !
Overly cautious can cause "Panic"....and "Disdain' at the same time.
That is the biggest hunk of malarkey written to date.
Joe Biden must be soo fucking proud of you right now.
Only a fucking IDIOT would believe that Trump is responsible for American deaths from a virus we didn't create.
REALLY ????
You are not that naieve
r u ?
people did NOT take virus serious in the beginning, because Trump downplayed and again LIED about its severity. If people believe Trump, and stupid people did, they were less cautious and more likely EXPOSED to the virus, and a percentage EXPOSED, DID
DIE, get over it. Trump IS RESPONSIBLE for SOME Deaths, no question about it!
Yes, you have it right now.
I think you meant naïve, but who the hell knows?
If you meant naïve, then, no, I am not naïve, which is why I don't believe half of what you write and question mainstream media instead of swallowing the bile they serve up, which you seem to imbibe gratefully and robustly.
All you seem to want to do is blame Trump for some shit he couldn't have stopped if he fucking locked down the entire country when the very first case was found here.
but continue on with your hatred--it fits you well.
ig,
You have just deliberately applied a different standard to Dr. Fauci than you did to President Trump. Trump had the same information that you've just stated that Fauci had, yet Fauci gets a pass while you consider that Trump lied. Total hypocrisy. I've noticed this tendency with anti Trumpers before, including some here. If another person makes a misstatement, if they didn't have accurate information, well, that just means that they were misinformed or reached a wrong conclusion. If Trump has the same thing happen, "HE LIED HE LIED HE LIED" is all you hear from the anti Trumpers. Maybe they should grow up, if that's possible. By the double standard that they use, they have sacrificed all their credibility whenever they talk about Trump. They don't seem to realize that many of us don't even like Donald Trump, but we DESPISE his enemies.
So, just exactly what did Trump know that Fauci did not know?
if not for double standards, some Trump haters wouldn't have any.
Hippocrazcy U say, well, beleave it or knot, i'll disagree.
When Trumps' EXPERT, after reviewing more detailed and extensive findings on and about said 'NEW' Virus, HIS recommendaions rightfully Changed, Why Didn't Trumps' ?
Y for TWO FRCKN MONTHS did TRUMP LIE yet AGAIN and AGAIN about this virus, thus leaving those silly enough to believe the LIAR in Chief, and then not taking it serious, till tens of thousnds MORE had been infected, and thus a percentage wound up DEAD !
I watched Trump state one :LIE after another, as his EXPERTS had to walk him back as his answers were NOT TRUTHFUL. THey actually contradicted the potUS in the SAME briefings, again WTF.
I witnessed one intelligent Scientist learn new FACTS about Virus and instantly modify his EXPERT recommendations, while Trump just continued to downplay the severity, and said it might magically go away... Are we in a fantasy movie here or something ? These things don't just 'go away'. One guy fromChina is now a few million and over 80,000 DEAD.
If Trump had truly
listened to his experts and implemented all of their suggestions in a timely fashion, our infection rate and death toll would have been significantly lower.
Instead, due to his main re-election campaign strength, the economy, TRump LIED again and again.
If something is so new, and you have Scientific experts learning about it and as they learn, modifying these suggestive recommendations, that is the SMART Scientific method observed.
When you have a Pol, who incessantly LIES about everything, nd DOES NOT MODIFY the Message that his EXPERTS did,therein LIES the problem, and the REASON the US leads the WORLD in infections and deaths,
can you still stand all this winning....?
What a hateful comment...
glad U like it
Truth hurts ?
Exactly! 🇺🇸👍👌👏
Good points all. Well said and thanks for saying it.
All of the hate on this site is directed at Trump and his supporters
and God of course...
Then you should lead you and your friends back to it.
Yet you conveniently ignore all the hate donald spews out on a daily basis.
Of course the articles you seed are never transparently partisan or divisive or toxic here. Only us conservatives are all that...
that is for sure. We need cool heads and wise council as we restart our economy using social distancing and precautions as needed.
Hatred? That’s supposed to be our role here! 😂
Ummmm. No.
Is it President Fauci now ?
Cause last i checked the LIAR in CHIEF was still in charge.
He's got the LIES to go with the Dies
I'm pretty sure that Dr. Fauci doesn't get National Security Briefings from the IC. Trump knew much more than Fauci.
Trump does not talk hate. He speaks the truth and his opponents think it’s hate simply because he dares to disagree with them.
And the people at the IC knew more about corona viruses than Dr. Fauci did?
The IC informed Trump about the events around the virus in China. That has been reported in multiple articles.
Why do you think so many of the Right-wingers here are directing so much hate at Trump?
No. Quite frankly you are just wrong on that point. (Deleted) speaks in falsities, and very fluently. But, it might not actually be hate as such, just callous disregard for the lives of others, because he does not care for supporter or foe. He only cares for himself.
Just because Fauci was appointed by Trump, you think that he should automatically be a Trump yes man and toadie. He is not there to placate the two year old in the WH. His job is to put out facts. If they prove Trump has lied, too bad too sad for him. I will take a hapless person with facts over someone who will say anything if he thinks it will help his bs polls any day of the week.
You mean Trump should have been more like Obama? Trump took Fauci's advice.....Whatever happens now, he sinks or swims with a bureaucrat. A bureaucrat who has, thus far, been consistently wrong.
I will take a hapless person with facts
Please tell us the facts according to Fauci, starting with "the coronavirus "is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about."
WTF R U Talking about ?
No REALLY, what the FCK are you talking about ?
Please list ANY LIES that Fauci did
KNOWINGLY MAKE ?
WHAT has he been WRONG ABOUT ?
and I WILL WAIT !
FACTS!
No REALLY, what the FCK are you talking about ?
Again, Facts!
Please list ANY LIES that Fauci did
KNOWINGLY MAKE ?
Why? You can't differentiate the difference between lying and simply being wrong?
WHAT has he been WRONG ABOUT ?
and I WILL WAIT !
You have already been given the first thing he was wrong about. Let me post it again, just for you:
"the coronavirus "is not a major threat to the people of the United States and this is not something that the citizens of the United States right now should be worried about.".......Dr Fauci
Read the bold and enlarged font, Iggy, and try to comprehend what is being said.
Fauci said that, and several Dems essentially the same thing...Pelosi, De Blasio, Cuomo.
what did Trump SAY ABOUT IT??????????
for MONTHS NOW, Yrump has been LYING to YOU and you want to laser focus on this...
After Fauci corrected his inaccurate speculation
WTF else did HE lie about, cause we've all seen Trump lie for months about this!
What has he been wrong about VIC ?
You were given an answer. Acknowledge or leave.
The Republican senator chairing this committee meeting today is quarantined in his house because of contact with infected person or people , lol. But all is well in Trumpland.
Lamar Alexander, by the way, is a coward Republican so called "moderate" who voted to prevent witnesses at Trumps impeachment a few months ago.
He's not going to answer you about what Fauci lied about because he doesnt have an example.
who needs witness's at a trial
balloon
y are they even having witness's today testifying...?
seems weird, asking people who might actually KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT SOMETHING
[DELETED]
just like Trump, don't like the question,
RUN AWAY
What does that mean?
I tried to point out the difference from lying and simply being wrong but I guess neither you nor he understands.
Among other things that he's since walked back, didn't Fauci also say that we didn't have to wear masks?
Correct! Should we begin listing them. On the matter of masks, Fauci originally wanted them reserved for health care workers. Obviously, he has changed that
That was back in January. When they knew even less about the virus. When you know more, you adjust your advice. Not a lie, not misinformation. Not enough information in the early days. NOT CONSISTENTLY WRONG like you said. And he is a doctor and scientist, not merely a bureaucrat. Is Trump unable to process new information as it is learned?
But Trump !
thank u, for reiterating my points that Vic and company refuse to even consider, as it doesn't fit their current talking all point
less deflection as to how they distort the truth,
and mold the fax machined to their specifications.
Fauci gives his best expert opinion on what his experience(s) have taught him. As circumstances change, as which is the norm for a BRAND NEW NOVEL CORONA VIRUS, Fauci injterprets the information gathered, evaluates it, and modifies his reccommendations to as best serve the President, the People, and the World. All while Vic and cump, will believe LIAR TRUMP, what a joke. Believe the mentally handicapped over an EXPERT SCIENTIST ON THE PANDEMIC.
Seems they have to go to the proctologist to get their heads examined
Yep, but Trump, for u n cump.
If you can't see now how bad you guys fckd up electing this abortion in our White House you never will.
When you knew more, you still defended the pussy grabbin playmate bangin porno star man o whore, you let him use you and the right like those $130,000.00 a pop 'girls next door', you watched himLIE through his teeth about Mexican Walls, middle class tax breaks, Russian contacts, business dealings, family business dealings, secret meetings where interpretators notes were taken from them, then quid pro quo for something that a whistle did blow. First he denies and lies, then he pokes out your eyes, so you can't see, what you all do, but excuse, Trump Flu
over the cuckoo's nest as you find his pear a "Juicyfruit" as u and gang continue to believe the LIAR in CHIEF Lucy says along with SO MANY
good grief
Since all this 'don't trust the doctors' is rampant in magaland, Trump is kinda the reason we are even having this discussion. He and his magas live in his alternative reality.
No one has ever said that.
This "Magaland folks" as you put it, want to know what the "Expert Doctors" think about how long everyone is supposed to be out of work.
Not one "Expert" has said one word about it. All we hear is that they added another month to the lock up, with no seeming end in sight.
Funny thing.....everyone that insists we listen to the "Experts", is going BROKE. In the meantime, they keep getting paid for telling us we must stay inside and continue to go BROKE !
Read "the Book" !
It's interesting that Fauci said what he said back in January, and just above it's excused because we didn't know as much about the virus as we do now. Yet aren't these some of the same posters who point out how badly Trump managed the entire pandemic and if he had only taken certain actions back in January the death toll would be so much less.
It just seems like some people don't want to bother remembering yesterday nearly as much as they want to just argue.
Tada !
"Impeachment" was the mostest importanant thingy on the planet though !
I haven't really faced that question. Thus far Fauci has recommended and Trump has fulfilled the recommendations.
In answering the question, one need only look at motivation.
If I'm looking at motivations, I have to look at everyone's. IMO progressives obviously want American death and economic collapse all in order to defeat Trump.
Aren't you glad you asked me?
So what? Our leading expert was listening to the murderous, lying Chinese government and the disgraced WHO.
When you know more, you adjust your advice.
Sorry, but I expect a good deal more from the heavily educated, lord high expert on infectious diseases!
Not a lie, not misinformation.
Haven't I made that argument twice already for your fellow progressive, who fails to respond? Simply being wrong kills people and destroys lives just as much as a lie.
NOT CONSISTENTLY WRONG like you said.
YES HE HAS BEEN. All those models they used were absolutely wrong. And how about that drivel with the masks. What that just being wrong or did he mean to say WE HAVEN"T GOT ANY RIGHT NOW!!! And what about shutting everything down? Wht didn't we just quarantine everyone over 65 and put a mask on everyone who needed to go to work? There's a question for Fauci!
And he is a doctor and scientist, not merely a bureaucrat.
So far, I'm not impressed.
Is Trump unable to process new information as it is learned?
YES! (but, but, but, but Trump) Give it up!
Not quite. The doctor is speaking only to the medical ramifications of re opening. That is what he is trained for. Outside of his medical training, he has no more training than any of us, probably less. He is a specialist, knowing only his specialty. You are expecting him to know how to handle problems in Economics and Sociology when he has had no training for them. That's why Dr. Fauci is not in charge and the President is; because all of the President's training and experience lead him toward the "Fuzzy Studies" that science proponents like Dr. Fauci ignore. In this situation, those things are just as important as the medical problems.
He's the freaking president of the country during the worst disaster in over a hundred years and he's screwed it up royally from day 1. He is responsible whether he (and his magas) accept it or not. The buck stops with him. Why the hell do you think he's trying so hard to blame everybody else and lies about how great he's doing?
Senator Rand Paul is totally right on in all that he said in that hearing today
You mean like FDR during the Great Depression? Brace yourself.......FDR got elected 4 times.
As he pointed out today, he has nothing to do with the economic aspect of all of this. The President has to worry about both.
Perhaps Laura Ingraham best answered the trust issue with Fauci:
2 months ago: "Can't open until we flatten the curve to save our healthcare system."
One month ago: "Can't open until we have a vaccine."
A few days ago: "Can't open until we have multiple vaccines."
Today: (Essentially) Can't open until Biden wins.
Jan: crickets, rallies and golfing
Feb: nothing to see here the flu is worse, we banned flights from China and our work is done. Rallies, golfing
Mar: oops, not the flu, its vicious. Anybody can get a test (still not true in May). 'It will go away and we'll have a great Easter'
Apr: take any of the previous months and they fit right in here, substituting rallies for briefings. It's like the flu, its not like the flu'.
May: time to open up whether its safe or not. 60,000 deaths to over 150,000 deaths by August. "we've done a fantastic job". Kush not sure the election can happen in Nov.
There has been NO coordinated response to this national disaster from the federal gov't. Lies, lies and more lies from Trump and his enablers.
That is the bottom line as to what this is all about.
I’m glad that he did!
They’d love to have us forget that. And that if they had their way and called witnesses they would have dragged it out until the shutdown.
Actually those are two separate instances of him being wrong, weeks apart.
You mean witnesses that would have taken the proceedings and senate tied up on it exclusively right up until the lockdown started?
He never said Fauci lied. He said that Fauci was wrong on two occasions at least.
In Turkey, the government has thrown HC at everyone with the virus—more than 117,000 cases. 3000 have died, but that’s lower than the global death rate, Turkish officials say. The “relatively low death toll is thanks to treatment protocols in the country, which involve two existing drugs—the controversial anti-malaria drug hydroxychloroquine touted by President Trump, and Japanese antiviral favipiravir,” CBS News reports .
If I'm not mistaken, Fauci has also flip-flopped on the timely use vis-à-vis the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine. Even though I've never questioned Fauci's CV, I do question his overall understanding of how a pandemic also affects people's economic, educational, and overall health collapse when he calls for an indefinite "shut down".
Don't try to blame Dr Fauci for Trump hearing what he wants to hear. The people pushing that drug weren't the doctors, they always came back to a more cautious position. Trump won't accept information he doesn't like. Also, as Dr Fauci said, he doesn't weigh in on the economics, he weighs in on the medical and scientific. When he calls for a shut down its to save American lives. Now you understand how fucked up it is for the masses and economists to weigh in on the health matters. The docs are telling us what will happen if things go back to normal, and if mass death is good for the economy, well, may want to rethink that one. That is why this isn't normal and requires the best. Instead we get the worst.
I heard the same thing president Trump heard on January 21 when Dr. Fauci said that covid-19 is not something Americans should be worried about.
i also heard the same thing president Trump heard on February 29 when Dr. Fauci said that Americans need not change their daily habits because of covid-19.
well unlike the LIAR in Chief , Fauci is intelligent enough to modify his recommendations as circumstances change, new facts are discovered, and or new information is shared,. This is about a Brand New Corona Virus, as NO ONE has dealt with this particular virus in humans before.
Intelligent peoples recognize that when facts change, new recommendations should be issued, but you knew this i'm sure.
That medication along with the anti biotic is very effective if used early enough.
Well said. He’s one man. Well educated and an expert for sure but he’s not the only one who is and he’s not infallible. He’s said things early on that were clearly wrong, though likely because of mis information coming from China about it.
So, President Trump didn’t create a commission to deal with the issue. He didn’t stop travel from China or Europe? He didn’t shut everything down upon recommendation to bend the curve?
I have never blamed anyone, even Fauci, so please do not ever project or make demands upon me like that again. Thank you in advance.
Many MDs and scientists have stated that they found that the Hydroxychloroquine/Zithromax combination worked very well BUT only to be used at the onset/early stages of Hunan Virus/COVID-19 symptoms.
That is your opinion, and it is not based upon facts.
While you are correct in saying that Fauci doesn't weigh in on the effects of the virus on our national economics, his one-size-fits-all "medical and scientific" opinions clearly show that he does not consider our nation's psychological health even close to being equally important as our physical health.
And Trump adapted with the flow of new info, but i’m sure you know that.
So, President Trump didn’t create a commission to deal with the issue. He didn’t stop travel from China or Europe? He didn’t shut everything down upon recommendation to bend the curve?
hold the tartar sauce homie slice