The Biden Paradox
Not long after the GOP Convention, polls, for what they are worth, seemed to be narrowing. As we all know polls can be influenced by such things as how questions are asked, what questions are asked, who is asked and the woke individuals who might just be tallying up the results. We also know that the most accurate form of polling is the internal polling of political campaigns, the kind the public never sees. Thus, it wasn't really a surprise to see Joe Biden forced to leave the safety of his basement and enter the campaign trail recently.
Before I continue, let me say good morning to BLM and progressives in Pittsburgh PA:
Now back to the Biden campaign. This matter of campaigning is really risky business for them since Joe Biden is suffering from severe cognitive disabilities, what seems to me to be along the lines of the beginning of Alzheimer disease. That presents a very large problem. Joe Biden is the very rare kind of candidate who could lose the election with a single gaffe. There are already signs that he and his vice presidential selection are not doing as well as expected among minority voters.
There is another problem as well. The President has enormous energy. He can go from airport to airport, which is where he now holds his modified rallies. He fulfills his Presidential duties even as he campaigns here, there and everywhere. Joe Biden doesn't have the energy for that. Biden has to focus on one thing at a time and he also requires a lot of preparation. Everything has to be written for him - including the questions he takes as we learned when one gutsy woman spilled the beans in Kenosha:
And finally there is the most dangerous game of all. Recently, Nancy Pelosi joined others in warning Biden not to debate the President, lest the nation be treated to the quick witted vs the dull witted. Biden would not be up to a debate and I doubt he would go through with it.
In the meantime, Biden & Harris have politicized the long awaited vaccine by implying that if it comes before the election it can't be trusted.
Dana Bash asked Harris: “Let’s just say there’s a vaccine that has approved and even distributed before the election. Would you get it?”
Harris: “Well, I think that’s going to be an issue for all of us,” Harris said. “I will say that I would not trust Donald Trump. And it would have to be a credible source of information that talks about the efficacy and the reliability of whatever he’s talking about. I will not take his word for it.”
Thus the skepticism we are now hearing about from various people.
At least Biden can count on the dishonest progressive media to drop all kinds of "bombshells" from "unnamed sources." The kind of stuff the left revels in. Unfortunately, neither the media or democratic party leaders can stop the violence generated by the left going on in American cities. Biden will also have to wear that around his neck!
All of this happened to the democrats because the DNC primary came down to Biden and Sanders. Party leaders knew they couldn't win with Sanders, so they had to get behind the hapless Biden. A lot of lipstick has been applied to the pig since then.
One final thought: The Biden campaign has presented Biden as a moderate, forcing him to take positions counter to those he expressed during the primary. That means he is now reneging on a deal he made with Sanders. I wonder how that plays out?
Oh well, may the best man win.
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They got a lot of help via the pandemic....Let's see if they can pull it off
Be careful what you ask for, you may get it:
The headline to the other video is misleading too.
Double FAIL.
They are not misleading. She got the paper from an activist who got it from the Biden campaign.
Try again.
Since you posted that bullshit despite the link I provided, PROVE IT Vic.
Oh and everyone who actually watches the McDonalds video can see that the manager laid hands on the guy with the megaphone FIRST.
Biden’s inability to answer a question without a teleprompter is scary. Interesting to see if they can pump him full of enough drugs to stay alert for a full debate.
I think they should use whatever was used in the 1968 movie "Charley." If you remember it made a genius out of a mentally retarded man.
The only problem, as Cliff Robertson was horrified to find out - was that it eventually wore off.
We keep hearing how Trump is the laughing stock of the world.
I like what Nick Adams has to say about these candidates.
"Has anyone noticed the Donald Trump supporters have huge patriotic motorcycle and boat parades while Biden supporters are rioting and burning down American Cities?"
Sky News - Australia
I bet the fellow dressed in white with the cap has more money invested in the clothes and shoes he has on than I have in all the clothes in my closet.
A great contrast - one that is obvious to anyone with an open mind!
They are getting a lot of money tossed to them.
Well then how in the world did you pick up on it?
The avatars you all you need to know.
You tickle me. Countdown to Bye-bye Trump/Trump family/Trump friends, bye-bye Bill Barr, and bye-bye to your Mr. Durham, and countless other questionable appointees and criminals.
Oh, to be a fly on the walls of the leftist libs should Trump be reelected. Beware the implosions...
Lip service.
If elected, he'll find endless excuses to make heavy left turns. Of this i have little doubt.
His choice of VP made that much very, very clear.
You mean the tail is wagging the brain dead dog?
Yep, and among other things. His choice of VP was rated the most liberal Senator in the US Senate last year by Govtrack.org
Telling, very telling.
I don't think it was really his choice, bad pudding between them, I think it was presented to him as the best of all the options. Of course, it really isn't.
She does work for the party insiders. I'll bet she made some promises.
I agree which makes his left turn even more inevitable.
Anyone who believes a Biden Presidency will be truly "moderate" is only being obtuse.
And the second in line to be POTUS if he wins is the most liberal Senator in the US Senate?
Not good, not good at all.
She's already contradicting him, apparently in preparation to taking over
"But as CNN news anchor Don Lemon recently warned his fellow leftists, now the polls are changing. Mr. Lemon apparently fears that the public is sick of seeing the urban unrest. Suddenly, many members of the media want Mr. Biden to condemn the rioting and violence.
But if Mr. Biden did, he might alienate his now-critical left-wing Bernie base. Yet Mr. Biden ’s continued reluctance to unequivocally fault the rioters and arsonists may be alienating moderate suburban swing voters.
The same paradox surrounds the debates. Should Mr. Biden , as promised, debate Mr. Trump ?
Yes. But would he thereby blow up his candidacy in a moment of incoherence?
washingtontimes.com/news/2020/sep/2/joe-biden-is-a-candidate-of-contradictions/
It is a paradox!
Time will tell. My prediction.
Biden will magically contract the Corona Virus before the debates, will have to sequester himself and the debates will never happen.
You heard it here first ....
Could very well be! They've pulled some outrageous shit in the past four years - everything from the Russia hoax to Christine Blasey Ford!
If it goes that way, I'll give you the credit for the call - until their ears turn red!
He has no choice but to lie, the Primaries were decided by the far left but the Election will be decided by Independents.
How can you diagnose severe cognitive disabilities at the scale of early Alzheimer's? While I agree that Biden is not as sharp as he used to be and that he is a gaffe-machine ( still ), one should rely upon professionals to diagnose mental illness — especially " severe cognitive disabilities ". So while I agree that Biden could come off poorly with answers such as " ... you know the thing ... " and that it is a campaign risk for Biden to be generating gaffe opportunities, it is an unfounded claim to state he has " severe cognitive disabilities " unless you can back that up with professional citations on his mental health.
On what is this diagnosis based? Do you have a professional medical report of Biden's physical fitness?
But she said nothing even remotely close to that. What she actually said :
Extreme characterizations should be based on facts. If one is going to not accept the allegation that Trump privately called WWI KIA suckers and losers based on the fact that this is supported only by hearsay of anonymous witnesses, one should similarly not deem Biden to have severe cognitive disabilities and lacking the energy to keep up with 74 year old Trump. And certainly, if one is quoting an individual like Pelosi, one should at least Google what she actually said and not invent something entirely different. ( Note: I am no fan of Pelosi. )
Were we to take any rumors seriously this election would be one of a Stroke vs Alzheimer's. I can only assume it makes partisans feel better about their piss poor choice if they can point to some imagined failure of the other.
I agree. I wish people would rely on credible facts and choose accordingly. But partisan thinking is all about exaggerating the worst of the other guys and ignoring / downplaying the worst of the home team.
Why on earth not? One is based on unnamed sources used by Trump haters, while the other is based on using one's own eyes and the ability to reason.
Progressives can't seem to distinguish between the two.
Because, to my knowledge, you are not a professional who can diagnose severe cognitive disabilities. Your eyes and ears cannot professionally diagnose physical fitness problems (e.g. energy below that of 74 year old, pudgy Trump). You are certainly free to form your own personal opinions (still I would advise objectively looking at facts), but that is profoundly different than declaring certain mental and physical disabilities.
Further, if you cannot even quote a person correctly and instead put your own words in her mouth, the credibility of the balance of your claims is diminished. It is shooting oneself in the foot. Why do that?
Thank you. That's what the piece was all about. As opposed to making unsubstantiated claims in the Atlantic.
I know most get it.
You do not realize that this piece made unsubstantiated and extreme claims about Biden's mental and physical health??
As I noted @4:
And you are quoting yourself to prove I'm making a false claim like Goldberg did?
No. I am showing that I equate unsubstantiated claims by Goldberg with unsubstantiated claims by Vic Eldred. I have never stated that either claim is false. I personally do not (yet) know how close to the truth these various claims are. (Your Pelosi claim, however, is flat out false.) I have stated that they are both have made extreme claims and that neither has provided sufficient evidence to support the extreme claim.
Vic, my point is not complicated. You seem to be doing whatever you can to deflect instead of just acknowledging that your claims are unsubstantiated.
Your point is typical of what you are noted for here. Now it's your turn. Exactly what did you say to the BS piece posted here a few days ago making false claims, which were disputed by numerous individuals who were willing to go on the record?
Go read my comments on the article Vic. Note also what I have already offered here @6.1.4:
By the way, you are deflecting again.
I agree, the deals made to ensure the various D factions rally behind Biden are unknown and it is difficult to say what a president Biden might sign. This is why I am hoping the Rs hold the Senate (the House seems out of reach). I am looking for at least a partisan check & balance since the checks and balances built into the CotUS require that we have statespersons who care about their constituents and the country rather than themselves and the continued power of their party and we have very few of those in Congress.
Here is the irony of that. These are the same people who get indignant when the left diagnose Trump with Malignant Narcissism. The double standard is amazing.
Who are the people, you speak of Perrie?
Come on Vic.
Ok, your'e speaking in general terms.
You are talking about a double standard right? So why do I see people questioning my conclusions, yet few criticized all that BS about what the President supposedly said. They went wild with it here on NT. Unnamed sources vs real people who went on the record to deny it. I didn't see certain people go after the Atlantic piece.
Vic, I am not talking about "The Atlantic" piece. I am talking about these specific claims, which we have seen about both candidates. It's just speculation and nothing more. Adding to it is wrong.
I personally don't listen to hearsay. That being said, Trump has made comments like that in the past. Calling McCain a loser is really low.
I for one deemed the Atlantic allegations to be believable but unsubstantiated. I have stated on numerous occasions that the allegations about Trump's private WWI vet comments need supporting evidence and that hearsay by anonymous witnesses is insufficient.
I apply the same reasoning to this article.
Yeah, well maybe you were not looking.
I'm stating my opinions. I expect the inquisition from TiG, but I'm surprised at you. You don't think that Biden has a problem with memory or the ability to express himself?
Maybe you don't want to recognize the difference between stating an observation and making false claims.
Let me help you. When I say Biden is suffering from cognitive disabilities which seems to me to be along the lines of the beginning of Alzheimer disease - that is an observation of mine.
When someone says for 3 years, day after day, that the President of the United States is a Russian agent or that Brett Kavanaugh is a rapist - they are making false (OFF THE WALL) claims!
Lies.
As I noted @4.2.1:
This article makes claims of certainty: "Joe Biden is suffering from severe cognitive disabilities". That is very different from an opinion piece which would use language such as "It appears to this writer that Joe Biden is suffering from severe cognitive disabilities". And even in an opinion piece, one would expect "severe cognitive disabilities" to be at least supported with facts. If you had used less extreme language such as "apparent cognitive decline" I would have agreed with your opinion (where apparent = "seeming real or true, but not necessarily so").
And don't come back with your "what seems to me to be along the lines of the beginning of Alzheimer disease" as proof that you are only expressing your opinion. Your Alzheimer assessment is indeed phrased as an opinion. The balance —the points of my comments— are phrased as certainties.
Oh, come on. He often talks off-script. I have seen him on TV. He sounds very coherent and doesn't use a string of adjectives to insult people. A third-grader can do that. Did you ever watch video of Trump from 30 years ago? He could actually express himself. Something happened to him.
Don't forget - TiG says that's a claim.
TiG sees Biden as perfectly normal.
Yup, Biden should have replaced Douglas in the Lincoln-Douglas debates!
Your'e doing it again, Mr Prosecutor! You forgot the rest of it - which seems to me to be along the lines of the beginning of Alzheimer disease.
Now, again where were you for all the leftist propaganda we've had plastered on the front page of NT for the past month???
I think if he has a problem, so does Trump. I have watched videos of him from 30 years ago, and he has lost all the fluidity of speech and lack of vocabulary, that he had back then.
See how that works? I have an opinion based on my personal observations and you have one, too. Neither are facts. Neither has been substantiated by a professional.
and doesn't use a string of adjectives to insult people.
Biden called a woman a ‘lying, dog-faced pony soldier’
Can you please back that up?
I'm sorry, I know that was not addressed to me, but you seem to be saying that Biden has no problem speaking? Am I correct? Is that your view?
Oh wow Sean. You found an insult from Biden, which happens daily with Trump. Kudos!
I dont want to belabor the issue, but you are intentionally regurgitating lies.
Of course, he does. He has his entire life. He stutters. That has zero to do with cognitive function.
No, It wasn't that kind of an analogy. There is nobody in American politics today who could speak like they, but least of which would be Joe Biden, or are you also going to look us in the eye and say Joe can get up there and speak coherently for 30 minutes?
In 1981, Zogby ran unsuccessfully for Mayor of Utica, New York. [1]
So now you feel comfortable relying on this source? Are you telling me he has no agenda there?
Perrie, there are videos all over YouTube featuring Joe Biden's problem:
Here:
55% of likely voters down at Jim Bobs Bait & Tackle do not represent the majority of Americans.
"A new poll suggests that most voters prefer former Vice President Joe Biden over President Donald Trump on issues of law and order and his ability to reduce violence in American cities."
A 56 percent majority said that Biden would do a better job on "establishing law and order," compared to 46 percent for Trump. Biden was favored by 58 percent of voters who said he would be better equipped to reduce violence in cities, while 57 percent believe he is better equipped to handle "civil unrest." Another 55 percent said he would be better on issues of race and policing. The former vice president had the largest advantage in terms of who would best "bring the country together," with 61 percent trusting Biden compared to 39 percent for Trump."
It was a 'quip' Sean. The woman LAUGHED. Biden went on to give her a substantive answer to her question. Sheesh.
Oh I see, so you have observed that Biden has " severe cognitive disabilities " and Biden " ... doesn't have the energy ... ". You, who to my knowledge is not a professional who can diagnose mental and physical disabilities has ' observed ' same nonetheless and can thus make unqualified claims of certainty (which you did) about Biden's mental and physical health.
Right.
Stating that Biden has " severe cognitive disabilities " is an unsubstantiated claim and it is also likely to be false (note the word ' severe '). The allegation that Trump demeaned WWI vets is also an unsubstantiated claim. Note that you also now claim that this is a false claim. You have no supporting facts to deam it false. The very best you could do is state that you do not believe it and that it is, as of yet, unsubstantiated.
I knew you would try that. As I already noted, I have focused on your claims of certainty. Your allegation of Alzheimer's was phrased as an opinion. But your claims of certainty that I have repeatedly stated are " severe cognitive disabilities " and " ... doesn't have the energy ... ". In both cases you have no ' seems to me ' qualification. Indeed, let's just pull up the full quote instead of the chopped quote you provided:
You declare Biden has severe cognitive disability and then opine that you think this might be along the lines of Alzheimer's.
I am, by the way, perfectly happy to view this entire article as simply your opinion and that you truly intended it only to be opinion in spite of your choice of language. The only reason I am continuing to rebut your comments is because you are trying to deflect and that bugs me.
Vic,
Come on.... we can both do that.
I gave them in JR's post of that BS. I provided actual pages from John Bolton's book and BTW Bolton, no friend of Trump has come out to deny the claims as well as others. So on one side TiG you have your unnamed sources making the claim, on the other, people coming forward to deny it.
And that's why I called them false!
I rest my case!
Vic, do you think Jeffery Goldberg knows the names of the four people who told him that Trump disparaged the military on the France trip and elsewhere? I think that you know he does.
Bob Woodward has a new book about Trump coming out in a few days. It is likely to be highly uncomplimentary to Trump in many many details. Do you think that Woodward knows the names of the people he interviewed for that book? I think you know that he does. Woodward is said to keep copious notes of his interviews and his research. He knows exactly who told him what and what their names are.
There are no anonymous sources. Their names are known but not included in the stories on the request of the person. This is a long time aspect of journalism, and it is not problematic.
See, this is the kind of crap that causes me to be in your face. Now you are putting words in my mouth; words that contradict what I have directly stated to you in this very thread:
Good grief man. Now you are trying to make this personal with me and are resorting to pure fabrication to do so.
Then you lose. Bolton was not with Trump 24/7 and does not know what Trump might have said out of his ear shot.
Bolton denied NOTHING, he merely came forward and said the HE never heard Trump say what was alleged.
Your argument presumes Bolton would have been privy to the words. That is a flaw in your logic. Just because Bolton did not hear the words does not mean those words were not spoken. Your argument is weak. Resting your case on that argument is silly, you have failed to make a strong case.
It is comical to watch people claim Biden is mentally unstable and then tell us that for that reason we should support Trump, of whom numerous psychiatrists have concluded, in writing, is mentally ill.
I think this is now funny. I intentionally put this in my comment and you flat out ignored it. Truly amazing:
So what is the problem here Vic? Are you not actually reading what I am writing or are you pretending I did not already rebut your comment?
Also note that I have covered this @6.1.30:
Your stating your opinions as fact, and that is a big difference. And I am hardly giving you an inquisition, and for that matter, I don't think that Tig is either. He is very precise in how he views things.
I don't think there are any such people. I think Goldberg wove the story around Trump's disputes with McCain and others to try and influence red-blooded military personnel to turn against the President. The military is not stupid.
Here is what I know about Goldberg:
"In 2002, he used discredited sources — both in Iraq as well as in the George W. Bush administration — to argue that Saddam Hussein was in league with Al Qaeda. We know how that worked out. Still, it got him an award for best reporting on human rights.
Former CIA director, James Woolsey , who wanted war with Iraq, called it “groundbreaking.”
Goldberg dealt with innuendoes that turned out to be false, yet he kept urging war with Iraq. He made a difference, a negative difference.
Goldberg also suggested in a Q & A that only white males can do 10,000-word cover stories:Goldberg ran into trouble in a Q&A – alongside his own executive editor, Adrienne LaFrance – when he intimated that assigning cover stories to women and minorities on gender and race issues is problematic.
“It’s really, really hard to write a 10,000-word cover story. There are not a lot of journalists in America who can do it. The journalists in America who do it are almost exclusively white males,” he said."
Bob Woodward has a new book about Trump coming out in a few days. It is likely to be highly uncomplimentary to Trump in many many details. Do you think that Woodward knows the names of the people he interviewed for that book?
The people he interviewed? For his book? John I have no idea. Do you know how many political books have been written in the past 3 years?
There are no anonymous sources.
There didn't used to be, John!. Honest journalism demanded that people go on the record or no story. The left has taken over most of the media. It is another American institution that they have torn down.
I am also being extremely careful in how I phrase my comments in this article because the deflection tactics are in full gear (IMO). I am constantly quoting to support my observations. I am also constantly repeating the same basic observations because the denials are constantly repeated and my words are being ignored (and in some cases words are created for me).
There has always been anonymous sources in journalism. It was part of the plot of the movie His Girl Friday in 1940.
False. What I wrote is an opinion piece. Most reasonable people would agree to that. You say that Joe Biden only stutters. I strongly disagree. He has forgotten what state he is in, called things by the wrong name and even got lost in what he was trying to say. You think he is ok? That's an opinion. (an anti-Trump one).
As for TiG, he has played Judge Parker once too often with your Conservative members. Iv'e called him for his double standard.
He called the report "simply false." Please stop making silly arguments.
Absolutely not. The two candidates represent how we and our children will live. It is Civilization vs Anarchy.
Do you know how many times Trump has slurred words? You should, there are multiple videos of it.
Perrie, you have to do that.
You see, you can't defend Biden without invoking Trump. You may not like what Trump says but he has his faculties. He is not an empty vessel for something else.
So you are demanding Trump prove a negative. Rather then rely on named witnesses (that include Trump critics) who were in the room when the decision not to go was made (the time and place Goldberg alleges it was said), you demand the impossible. Talk about a flaw in logic.
No, that's not a good place for you. You want to stay on the other side of that screen.
That's a tall order LOL
Deflecting and yet again making this personal with me.
Ask JR how many times we have disagreed. It just happens that there are select members (who I suspect you label 'conservative') who routinely make comments to which I disagree. Moreso, in my opinion, than those whom you would likely not label 'conservative'.
I suggest you encourage those folks to make better arguments and then maybe the rebuttals will be less frequent. In the meantime, your attempts to make this personal telegraph your weak position. Focus on your rebuttals, not on me.
I heard the recent statement by Bolton, which ended with at least while I was around him. That's when I knew you and others would be saying it happened when Bolton wasn't there!
Not everyone uses others to do their thinking for them. My reaction to your Bolton excerpts was that Bolton clearly did not hear Trump make these words (because Bolton would have been all over it) but that Bolton is one man who clearly was not with Trump 24/7. That is obvious. Right?
Complete nonsense.
He has a limited vocabulary, but his faculties are working.
Are you still sure they are both alike?
Just wait for that first debate!!!!!!!
When you experience it up close and personal it becomes much easier to spot. One doesn't need to be a board certified Doctor/Psychiatrist to observe it. I suspect some of the folks here haven't experienced it yet and some are just in partisan denial.
Biden is clearly in a mental decline as bad or worse than Ronald Reagan when many of the same people here defending Biden, were likely hammering on Ronnie. That is just convenient partisan denial. Nothing more, nothing less.
That's ridiculous. Watergate was ALL about anonymous sources.
As Iv'e said - Just take a look at some of the outrageous stories posted to our front page.
That is where I look for you, TiG. There is so much there for you to question. The Kavanaugh case should have made you famous around here. That was something to pick apart!
A salient point.
And the history of Goldberg and the Atlantic when it comes to this stuff?
Again, I accept that you consider this simply to be your opinion. But you refuse to accept that what you wrote is stated as certainty. Instead of going back to your article and changing:
"This matter of campaigning is really risky business for them since Joe Biden is suffering from severe cognitive disabilities , what seems to me to be along the lines of the beginning of Alzheimer disease."
Into something like this:
"This matter of campaigning is really risky business for them since it seems to me that Joe Biden is suffering from severe cognitive disabilities along the lines of the beginning of Alzheimer disease."
An easy grammatical fix that changes the entire meaning of the sentence. The former is a statement of certainty: "Joe Biden is suffering from severe cognitive disabilities" whereas the latter is clearly opinion. But even so, when opining that someone has "severe cognitive disabilities" one should provide a supporting argument since that is an extreme allegation.
Your actual statement opines about Alzheimers but makes a certain allegation about "severe cognitive disabilities".
Other areas in your article make the same mistake. You wrote an opinion piece as though it were certain fact. That is the problem and that is what you refuse to acknowledge.
Biden has a tendency to think he has to be constantly talking when he is in front of an audience. Considering that he has a stuttering problem that is a mistake on his part. Many of the examples in this video have to do with his stuttering. I would post videos of Trump screwing up his words and thoughts, but since you will simply ignore them it is not worth the effort.
There is no evidence that Biden is mentally faltering, and I just watched your video.
Are you going to continue to try to make me the subject?
Why keep going back to the Atlantic? You seem to be pretending that I accepted the story as fact when I have clearly and repeatedly explained to you that I have not and that I made my comments public in the article here on NT. What is the point of pretending that I accepted the Atlantic story as fact??
Link?
Here's mine:
"I didn't hear that," Bolton told The New York Times. " I'm not saying he didn't say them later in the day or another time , but I was there for that discussion."
And another symptom, he is prone to angry outbursts or attacks. Like when he told a UAW member he was full shit because he held an opinion different from Joe.
In my opinion it is a certainty. He shows all the signs I have stated. You may recall that in another article, I thought that if he were elected, democrats would cite his health and ask him to step down for Kamala Harris? I even believe that Barak Obama believes what I do. This is the hand they were dealt. If they win, mark my words, they will ask him to step down. Hopefully they won't win.
Your actual statement opinions about Alzheimers but makes a certain allegation about "severe cognitive disabilities".
Yup, I'm not running from it. That is exactly what I think. He is not even a shell of what he was 4 years ago!
You wrote an opinion piece as though it were certain fact. That is the problem and that is what you refuse to acknowledge.
Correct, I refuse to acknowledge that an opinion piece can be interpreted as documentary.
Actually I am arguing that Vic cannot prove a negative. Vic is trying to claim that because Bolton did not hear Trump say those words that is proof; case closed.
I have never written a single word that suggests Trump has the ability to prove the Atlantic allegations wrong. What I have actually written is that the Atlantic story is unsubstantiated. That means, Sean, that I am saying the burden of proof is on the Atlantic (and those making the allegations) and not on Trump.
Yeah, how is it that you did not follow my logic and instead created a strawman that is the exact opposite of my logic? Why is it that with certain people I have to constantly explain and reexplain that which is both obvious and clearly stated?
Well in my opinion that is irrational given the evidence (the lack thereof) that you have cited.
Again you fail to read. You refuse to acknowledge that you wrote an opinion piece with language that makes extreme claims of certainty.
It is where I am right now and you continue to encourage it.
That's an opinion. An I'd say a flawed one.
"but I was there for that discussion."
Per your own link, Bolton was a witness to the discussion where Goldberg claims Trump called them losers. Of course Bolton can't swear to things that he wasn't present for. No one can.
Here's Bolton calling the report "simply false"
Sadly, Biden has repeatedly shown that he cannot coherently speak for even 20 minutes in front of a small, hand-chosen group (friendly) while trying to use a teleprompter, written notes, tablet, and/or a phone (which he placed upside-down on his desk).
Preliminary Alzheimers testing includes, but is not limited to:
Mini-Mental State Exam (MMSE) and the Mini-Cog test
Mood assessment
I guess you didn't watch the video of Trump. He can't do the same thing.
The lack of evidence??? You've never heard Joe Biden struggle to speak? Lose track of his thoughts? Call NH Vermont? He even confused his daughter and his wife.
You refuse to acknowledge that you wrote an opinion piece with language that makes extreme claims of certainty.
Maybe you don't agree with the opinion. You've gone many miles to defend Joe Biden today. You say Biden is fine. Remember what you thought of my China opinion? I say the same to you. Thinking Biden is fine is ridiculous!
Why don't we all just be honest. Biden should take a cognitive test.
Not really.
Biden was a longtime member and eventually chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee . He opposed the Gulf War in 1991 but supported the expansion of the NATO alliance into Eastern Europe and its intervention in the Yugoslav Wars of the 1990s. He supported the resolution authorizing the Iraq War in 2002 but opposed the surge of U.S. troops in 2007. He also served as chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee from 1987 to 1995, dealing with issues related to drug policy, crime prevention, and civil liberties. Biden led the efforts to pass the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act , and oversaw the contentious U.S. Supreme Court nominations of Robert Bork and Clarence Thomas . Biden ran unsuccessfully for the Democratic presidential nomination in 1988 and 2008 .
Biden was reelected six times to the U.S. Senate and was the fourth-most senior senator when he resigned after winning the vice presidency alongside Barack Obama in the 2008 presidential election . [4] Obama and Biden were reelected in 2012 . As Vice President, Biden oversaw infrastructure spending in 2009 to counteract the Great Recession . His negotiations with congressional Republicans helped the Obama administration pass legislation including the 2010 Tax Relief Act , which resolved a taxation deadlock; the Budget Control Act of 2011 , which resolved a debt ceiling crisis ; and the American Taxpayer Relief Act of 2012 , which addressed the impending fiscal cliff . In foreign policy, Biden led the efforts to pass the United States–Russia New START treaty ; supported military intervention in Libya , and helped formulate U.S. policy toward Iraq through the withdrawal of U.S. troops in 2011 . Following the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting , Biden led the Gun Violence Task Force , created to address the causes of gun violence in the United States . [5]
The lack of evidence for the claim that you made. Here again, what I have written is clear yet you are playing loose with semantics.
Again (more than a dozen times now I have shown this to you), you claimed "Joe Biden is suffering from severe cognitive disabilities". You did not claim that Biden has apparent cognitive decline (something that your cited evidence would support even for laymen). "Severe cognitive disabilities" is an extremely strong allegation and the evidence supporting such an allegation necessarily comes from professional cognitive examinations, not from Vic observing a gaffe-prone politician who has lost track of this thoughts.
To wit, as I have noted, if you had claimed apparent cognitive decline then your cited evidence matches that level of claim (and I actually agree with you on that). But that is not what you have claimed.
Your refusal to acknowledge this is why I continue to rebut your comments.
Not only am I NOT defending Biden (rather I am critiquing your article in terms of your claims versus the facts in evidence), but I have stated several times that I do not think Biden is 'fine'. That, in fact, has been a criticism I have made of Biden since he entered the race.
So why is it that you fabricate words for me, I explicitly note how wrong you are, have proof of same, and you come back repeating the same false allegation? That is now a lie. So every time you claim that I think Biden is 'fine' note that you are lying. The question is if you will continue to do so or cease.
They have gotten him through a few serious mini statements, devoid of questions. The first debate will be hosted by Chris Wallace. That means no help for anyone. What happens then?
I don't know if many people remember how Sarah Palin was selected as VP. It was on the basis of one talk she gave in which a McCain campaign official happened to drop by and see it. It was a true outlier - she came across as clear and concise. Her problem wasn't cognitive, she simply had little basic knowledge of anything, such as thinking Africa was a country rather than a continent. After the campaign hastily announced her selection as VP they too decided to hide her away. Just like this, the point came where they had to send her out to speak to a reporter. Believe it or not, Nicole Wallace (then a Republican & McCain operative) was put in charge of Palin.
The rest is history.
Oh come on Vic. You obviously chose not to watch the video I posted. Trump had done the same things you are claiming as proof of dementia. He's even made up words. My favorite is "Confonvee" (spelling I am unsure of, since the word does not exist).
Doctors only recommend that if they think there is a problem.
Joe Biden has decades of experience working with both Democrats and Republicans. He's more than qualified spending 8 years just a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Joe reminds me of my grandfather. Joe Biden is compassionate and truly spends time listening to peoples problems instead of lecturing them or insulting them. Joe Biden supports equality for women in the workplace and is pro-choice. Joe Biden isn't above admitting when he's been wrong or apologizing when he makes mistakes. Joe Biden respects our military and veterans and knows what it's like to be a parent of a child in the military and also knows what it's like to lose a wife and a child. Joe Biden respects and supports equal right for lgtbq Americans and minorities and understands that there is a long way to go for racial equality in this country.
Joe Biden supports the 2nd amendment while also rightly understanding that it's not unlimited so he supports sensible gun laws like universal background checks. Joe Biden supports all Americans being able to access affordable health care regardless of pre-existing conditions and supports making the ACA work better for everyone instead of simply dismantling it and leaving tens of millions of Americans without healthcare. Joe Biden acknowledges, like any sane humans with more than half a brain, the reality of global climate change and will work hard to address this and work with companies and our global partners in addressing the predictable climate caused catastrophes the entire globe is already having to deal with.
Joe Biden understands that green jobs are part of a larger solution to address global climate change and will almost certainly be the jobs of the future that help America stay competitive and even be a leader in the green energy industry. Joe Biden understands that a vast majority of America's infrastructure is nearly 100 years old and needs to be retrofitted, rebuilt or replaced which will create millions of good paying jobs over the next decade. Joe Biden knows that Americans rely on our public schools so instead of abandoning them and re-segregating them as school vouchers have done he'll invest in making sure every American child gets a quality education.
On top of all that, he seems like a very likeable man and seems earnestly interested in those he speaks with and in their lives or personal plight they are expressing.
Now you're turn...
Please tell us all about why you like Trump without mentioning Biden, Hillary, Obama, Bill Clinton, democrats, liberals or progressives.
Making up words is nothing like being at a loss for words or constantly losing one's train of thought.
Doctors only recommend that if they think there is a problem.
God forbid he gets elected and you'll see how fast that happens - and the demand won't come from Republicans!
. He's offered direct evidence that Trump didn't make the statement at the time and place alleged by the Atlantic, who as you admit, bears the burden of proving it's allegations. The eyewitness testimony from numerous people present at the relevant time that contradicts Goldberg's anonymous accusation does in fact equal, case closed. The report is false under any objective weighing of evidence.
To claim his case is "weak" is beyond bizarre. He has numerous witnesses on record denying the statement was made at the time and place alleged. No one present is on record claiming it was said. Yet, somehow, you characterize it as weak, even while paying lip service to understanding that the actual burden to prove its allegations is with the Atlantic.
Your whole argument that Vic's case is "weak" is premised on his inability to prove a negative, whether you realize it or not.
Once you resort to well, "maybe Bolton didn't hear it," then you are in fact discounting all possible evidence in favor of Trump. Because. That gives away the game,
. Why is it that with certain people I have to constantly explain and reexplain that which is both obvious and clearly stated?
Making it personal again. Sad.
Vic you didn't watch the video. Trump is at a loss of words and loses train of thought.
Now we're guessing? OK, fact: Biden has spoken this way for years because he stutters.
There are also nearly 700 veterans along with 20 WH people on record who state that The Atlantic's "anonymous" story is FALSE.
Easy. I look at what he does/has done. NOT lip service.
Perrie stuttering is one thing. Loss of focus and general confusion is another. Biden is on the campaign trail now. I know his campaign is worried about Wisconsin. Democrats are only in this race right now because of the havoc wrought by the Coronavirus. Right now they are on dangerous ground - the point of my article. Let us see if Biden simply "stutters."
I do not 'admit' it; I declared it.
Show us the direct evidence that Trump did not make the statement. The timing is a detail. It is the words that make a difference to the electorate.
I stated that Vic's argument that 'simply because Bolton did not hear the words means that they words were not spoken' is weak. Nothing bizarre about that. Bolton was not with Trump 24/7 so clearly the fact that Bolton did not hear the words is not proof (or even evidence) that the words were not spoken.
Good grief Sean. Vic's case is weak precisely because it is holding that a negative was proven. You understand the concept so think this through. To prove that Trump did not say these words is to prove a negative. Right? With me? So how in hell can you deem Vic's argument to be anything other than weak when it is an argument that tries to prove that something did not happen?? Because Bolton did not witness Trump saying these words, Trump ipso facto did not say those words?? Really? You buy that?
Come on man, don't play these games.
We are talking about Vic's evidence. Stick to what we are discussing rather than expand the discussion and then accuse me of ignoring facts in the greater scope. If you want to put forth an article defending Trump then please do so. If you want to debate why Vic's Bolton defense is weak then do so. But don't move the goalposts and/or engage in other intellectually dishonest tactics.
He's served the credit card companies well in his 47 years.
What video of Trump might that be, and what "same thing" can't he do, Perrie? Please post and explain. Thanks.
what sane person would say "they sacrifice every day for the furniture of their children" ?
even if he was reading it.
I know you dont agree with the practice but numerous psychiatrists have said publicly and in writing their opinion that Trump is mentally ill, suffering from malignant narcissism. Have any mental health professionals said in writing that Biden is suffering from mental illness? I don't think so.
Is Trump really her daddy ?
John,
The reason I don't agree with you is that I know as a fact, you can not make a physiatric diagnosis, without one on one time spent together. The same thing is true with clinical neurological diseases like dementia. It's all hackery.
I actually liked Bill Clinton, aka "Slick Willy," but that doesn't mean one has to like his wife, Obama, or Biden. Bill was the first President I was old enough to vote for actually.
Trump has actually done a lot for the middle class in my area. I can't speak for everyone everywhere, but there's a few policies and tax laws that greatly benefited myself as well as many I know personally. As far as Biden being a likable man... only if you enjoy your personal space violated and he wasn't too interested in what the Union member was saying.
Even the video of Porsche Bennett, which you posted in your intro, is devoid of questions. She spoke for approximately 5 minutes, didn't ask a question (scripted or otherwise), and Biden never responds.
The first 2 debates will be hosted by registered Democrats. I'm not sure about the 3rd (the woman) except that her entire work history has been with MSM. Chris Wallace is rather fair, and he's always polite - but he's much harder on Republicans than Democrats.
Well, Biden's handlers have to prepare him in many ways for 3 late night (for him) debates. He has to be able to think quickly in order to defend his 47 year nothing-burger taxpayer funded political career. I hope that nobody does what Donna Brazille did in 2016.
Through those credit card companies that few are willing to talk about ... plus his deals with China, Iran, Ukraine, Russia, the middle-East, etc ... he and the Biden family have become very wealthy over the decades of his "service".
Per your own link, Bolton said:
Perhaps you may want to review the definition of equivocation.
That's how he dissed a black woman.
The first 2 debates will be hosted by registered Democrats. I'm not sure about the 3rd (the woman) except that her entire work history has been with MSM. Chris Wallace is rather fair, and he's always polite - but he's much harder on Republicans than Democrats.
Chris Wallace will host the first debate, which btw is exactly 3 weeks from tonight. C-Span's Steve Scully get's the 2nd. The third by NBC's Kristen Welker, whom you may recognize as a White House correspondent. She is at least respectful and easy on the eye. I don't have too much argument with the lineup.
Well, Biden's handlers have to prepare him in many ways for 3 late night (for him) debates. He has to be able to think quickly in order to defend his 47 year nothing-burger taxpayer funded political career. I hope that nobody does what Donna Brazille did in 2016.
It will be tough for Biden. He did debate Sarah Palin in 2008 and Paul Ryan in 2012, but he was another person back then.
He was a true globalist. We lost all those manufacturing jobs, but what the hell prices came down and the world got a bit more affluent/s.
More uninformed bullshit:
You sourced Biden's response to Bennett from another site. My reference ( 6.1.95 ) was solely from Vic's video (above). I'm glad that Biden has slowly started getting out and about again!
Yes. Rather than accept Vic's post at face value as you did, I took the time to fact check his claim. As is true all too often, Vic's claim is false and misleading and IMHO, intentionally so.
I'm glad he is doing so while taking into account the safety of his audience, unlike Trump.
Yes, indeed! It's easy to hold a rally in a high school gym and practice social distancing when only 10 - 15 people bother to show up.
That 'gutsy woman', Porsche Bennett, stated that the 'piece of paper' she was speaking of was furnished to her by BLAK, the group of which she organizes for, NOT the Biden campaign.
FAIL.
If you're going to blatantly misrepresent shit, the least you can do is find something that's more challenging to debunk.
If your'e going to talk to me, you should address your comments to me.
That's item # 1
If you wrote the seed, I AM addressing my comment to YOU by quoting what you said and refuting it.
Of course it's easier for you to attack me rather than address my comment.
I agree Vic:
Don't make false allegations about me to Kraken. If you are going to make false allegations about me at least do so in a REPLY to me.
Right wing conservative Trumplicans blatantly misrepresent everything so that anyone trying to debunk it all is overwhelmed and will eventually give up. And when you call them out on the lies and half truths they change the subject or attack the messenger because they simply have no actual defense for their slimy tactics. They believe all's fair in war and politics, the ends justify the means.
Lol .... well Vic .... you certainly have released the neighborhood hounds!
How would you like to be called a hound?
It wouldn't bother me, since it's just a figure of speak.
Now being called other things does bother me .....
Well, it bothers me.
Well, it shouldn't since i'm literally not calling you a hound. Unlike other folks here who are literally inferring that a majority of Trump supporters are rubes who frequent places like Jim Bobs bait and tackle shop.
But since it bothers you, i'll be happy to not use it again.
Thank you!
Pssst, hey Perrie, don't tell Sparty I said this, but his 'rubes who frequent places like Jim Bobs bait and tackle shop' comment was freaking hilarious.
And I'm always trying to keep them calm! Go figure.
Here are comments made by Biden a few days ago. No teleprompter, no script.
He is fine. I think it helped him to slow down a little bit, which is of course appropriate for a funeral.
We can only wish Trump were capable of making comments like this , which exhibit a little thoughtfulness. I don't think anyone has ever seen Trump appear to be thoughtful.