Democrats’ new strategy for winning the White House: Threaten riots if they lose
By: Jonathan S. Tobin
The democrat strategy of scorched earth rule or ruin is exposed for all to see. They are threatening mass riots bigger than before if we deprive them of getting their way.
Four years ago, Hillary Clinton supporters talked a lot about then-candidate Donald Trump refusing to concede a presidential election they were certain he would lose. As it happened, they had it exactly backward: Trump wound up winning, and Democrats and their media cheerleaders have spent most of their waking moments ever since then trying to invalidate that result. They used false charges about Russian “collusion” and any other conceivable means — fair or foul — to make the bad dream of 2016 go away.
That’s the key fact to keep in mind amid the drumbeat of obsessive mainstream commentary and analysis about what Trump will do when he loses in November .
The drumbeat has been getting louder. In recent weeks, multiple mainstream outlets have pondered the same old Trump-sore-loser scenario. They are certain the president will seek to delegitimize the results and use unconstitutional means to hold onto an office from which they are sure voters will evict him.
As he did in 2016, Trump has cast doubt on the integrity of the process by talking about possible election fraud.
Only this time, his concerns have some merit. A recent Post feature related a veteran Democratic operative’s confession about how easy it is to cheat, making it clear there is reason to worry. With so many ballots being mailed this fall because of the pandemic — and with so few safeguards put in place — chaos is likely as the count drags on for days, weeks and even months after Election Day.
That has led a host of liberal pundits to openly speculate about how to stop Trump from stealing the election. Their formulas for saving democracy from him include having “principled” Republicans undermine Trump from within the government, military intervention a k a a coup and, most importantly, mass protests.
They are sure the only way to ensure a peaceful transition of power is a landslide victory for Joe Biden by a margin that not even a real estate developer from Queens could challenge.
But there is a problem with their fulminations about the evil orange man installing the authoritarian regime liberals have been warning us about ever since he started running for president.
To wit: It’s all pure projection on their part.
For all of their frightening predictions of what Trump might do if he loses, the one thing we already know is that it is the Democrats who will, as Clinton advised Biden , never concede defeat. Though some of Trump’s trolling of the media and the left is interpreted as betraying his plans to overturn the results, Democrats have already shown us outright how they react to losing.
This time, Democrats won’t be relying on conspiracy theories or politicized investigations. Instead, they are counting on a strategy intended to scare Americans into voting for Biden — even if they have misgivings about handing over the government to a confused figurehead and his radical supporters.
After a summer of (ahem) “mostly peaceful” Black Lives Matter protests that unleashed violence and looting in American cities, most recently in Rochester, is there a shred of doubt in anyone’s mind that the same combination of elite liberals, criminal thugs and Antifa Marxists would be deployed to burn and destroy the moment it appears that Trump might be winning?
Behind all that high-minded talk from pompous columnists about virtuous patriots stopping Trump from cheating is a brazen threat. They’re saying in effect: The same forces that have wreaked havoc in the name of a false charge that America is an irredeemably racist nation may well inflict even worse damage in order to ensure that Trump’s re-election is thwarted.
That’s the subtext of the talk from Biden supporters about democracy. Their ace in the hole isn’t an accurate count of the votes but the certainty that America’s cities will burn unless the electorate bows to their demands.
Aided by the devastation from the pandemic, Biden may yet win without any help from mobs. If he does, Trump will likely bow to the verdict of the people and go home.
But in what is likely to be a close election in a deeply divided country — immersed in a culture war about a largely false charge of racism — the real threat to the process isn’t a presidential spoilsport. It’s a Democratic Party that is fully prepared to unleash ruin on the nation if it loses again.
Jonathan S. Tobin is editor in chief of JNS.org.
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For all of their frightening predictions of what Trump might do if he loses, the one thing we already know is that it is the Democrats who will, as Clinton advised Biden , never concede defeat. Though some of Trump’s trolling of the media and the left is interpreted as betraying his plans to overturn the results, Democrats have already shown us outright how they react to losing.
This time, Democrats won’t be relying on conspiracy theories or politicized investigations. Instead, they are counting on a strategy intended to scare Americans into voting for Biden — even if they have misgivings about handing over the government to a confused figurehead and his radical supporters.
After a summer of (ahem) “mostly peaceful” Black Lives Matter protests that unleashed violence and looting in American cities, most recently in Rochester, is there a shred of doubt in anyone’s mind that the same combination of elite liberals, criminal thugs and Antifa Marxists would be deployed to burn and destroy the moment it appears that Trump might be winning?
Behind all that high-minded talk from pompous columnists about virtuous patriots stopping Trump from cheating is a brazen threat. They’re saying in effect: The same forces that have wreaked havoc in the name of a false charge that America is an irredeemably racist nation may well inflict even worse damage in order to ensure that Trump’s re-election is thwarted.
That’s the subtext of the talk from Biden supporters about democracy. Their ace in the hole isn’t an accurate count of the votes but the certainty that America’s cities will burn unless the electorate bows to their demands.
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That's what trumpturd and his supporters are threatening, not us.
Totally false. There are no right wing riots in the streets. Those are all from and of the left. Even Biden and Harris have said that there will be no peace if Trump wins.
Nope, there are over 400 instances of right wing agitators, inciters, trumpturd supporters, instigating and inciting.
KKK, NSM, TWP, Proud boys, Boogaloo,.... Violent far right wing fascist groups pretending to be liberal protesters.
Proof, I'll am even willing for your day off for you to have the time to get it.
Proof?
That's right! You've sussed out the plan.
There will be riots BUTT they won't be in Democratically run cities. We're choosing very carefully and pin pointing those red Trump enclaves, especially those in blue states.
Say like Redding, CA.
Better call Cottonwood for help...
BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID!
Bring it on!
How the weapons training going Xx?
Such a brave keyboard warrior!
It’s not. You said to call Cottonwood and that’s the right idea to deal with such a thing were it to materialize or if BLM/Antifa appear here.
No, it’s just that our law enforcement is plenty able to protect us from urban human debris that might might dare venture out of the city to riot in a rural area.
So you admit that neither you or Redding can handle shit yourselves. You must be proud.
BTW, while Cottonwood comes to your defense, who will be protecting Cottonwood?
See our plan is coming together nicely.../s
Wait WHAT?
You claimed that you live in an urban area Xx. Now suddenly it's rural? Redding is a CITY Xx.
Calling in people from a truly rural area, Cottonwood [pop. 3,000+] to protect Redding [pop. 91,000+] is pathetic.
BTW, your racist Sheriff is in deep shit after putting out a statement denying that he coordinated with the militia. It's all over social media up there and all of the posers are whining about being dissed. Even the official California State Militia is pissed.
The RW is eating their own in your little piece of paradise.
We are a rural area. We have one city surrounded by rural for between 65 and 160 miles in every direction. We are considered rural as even the city is large in geographical size and low population density with green belts and forest land within city limits. As to the rest there is no real issue here between citizen groups and law enforcement despite the attempts by a liberal internet rag to try to create one. We love our law enforcement here and have twice had we back the blue events for them.
Seriously Xx? I'm not talking about liberals. You must not go to the Facebook pages of the militia groups that were in Redding on June 2nd. They're piss about the statement the Sheriff put out.
At least you didn't try to deny that your Sheriff is a fucking racist.
Because he isn’t one.
I know. They kept the peace that night. We know that they informed LEO’s of their intentions from public records but there’s no evidence of the sheriff asking them to come or coordinating anything. Those people will be here where ever BLM/ Antifa end up showing up in this area. And no, I don’t read militia groups Facebook pages or do all that much with Facebook as a site.
As you should know there are only four real cities/ metro areas in all of California north north of the Sacramento and Bay Area metro areas and counties. Yuba City, Chico, Redding, Eureka. The rest is totally rural.
There are videos and tweets that prove that he is and there is a recall petition to remove him.
Don't be too sure about that. A couple of the militias claim to have phone messages and emails that prove they were asked to show up and were instructed where to go DURING the protest.
Yes Xx, I KNOW. One of my best friends lives in Chico and I have been there many times.
WTF is you point?
Lassen Park?
Uh, you meant Lesbian Park, perhaps?
We would fish in the Oroville area.
She worked for PG&E so we would go to the Tuolumne River and backpack in a couple miles to camp and fish. She said that area burned a couple years ago.
?
https://www.visitredding.com/lassen-volcanic-national-park
I’m glad I live in a city that has its own utility and produces its own power as well as making contracts with others. We are immune to their outages and sell the state power during peak usages for peak prices.
Palo Alto, CA is the same. They have their own recycling plant too. The more they recycle, the lower their gas and electricity costs them. They even accept used motor oil. I had never lived in a place were my utility bill went down in the summer based on all the beer and wine we drank...
Never heard of Thursday humor?
Just don't ruin the pot industry with your war on reality.
We do our level best to ruin that industry around here.
not as well as I had hoped, since he's still publishing hyper-partisan and religious bullshit here...
Then y'all suck at it. There are 4 dispensaries in Redding Xx. Plus the fact that medicinal card holders or their growers can grow. That's a hell of a lot more pot than in my neck of the woods.
I WISH they'd legalize pot in Indiana. I'd have my greenhouses switched over in a couple of months and grow year round. Based on how much I made when I lived in CA, from only 10 plants in my basement, I'd make a mint.
Too bad so sad for you. Deal with it or like it.
The rules and regulations here in the city and county for growing are pretty darn strict
Ya, only 12 adult plants ea.
Seriously, that's a LOT of pot.
Exsqueeze me! It is the Trump supporters who threatened civil war if Trump loses.
Actually, it’s not. The left is the side that promises violence and disruptions if they don’t get their way.
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You know you are going to have to provide a link to that don't you?
Trump threatened it in 2016. Don't imagine he changed his mind.
Please present your evidence/proof/ link of Trump threatening a civil war if he lost the 2016 election...
And you really think I'm going to take your word for it. Provide your proof.
Why?
You posted a seed that doesn't have one iota of evidence/proof or links.
Don't you think it's hypocritical to expect them from others?
How about proof that Trump said it?
Then there's a supporter:
Later in the year:
There are plenty more, but you knew that before you asked.
I said proof. That's not proof. It's "I heard from a friend of a friend".
It’s all they have!
Since some are too fucking lazy to do their own research, I'll just leave this here:
Trump on contested convention: "I think you'd have riots"
A la Woodward, there's audio of Trump's call into CNN.
And MORE:
“I think we’ll win before getting to the convention, but I can tell you, if we didn’t and if we’re 20 votes short or if we’re 100 short and we’re at 1,100 and somebody else is at 500 or 400, because we’re way ahead of everybody, I don’t think you can say that we don’t get it automatically,” Mr. Trump said. “I think it would be — I think you’d have riots. I think you’d have riots. I’m representing a tremendous, many, many millions of people.”
He added: “If you disenfranchise those people and you say, well I’m sorry but you’re 100 votes short, even though the next one is 500 votes short, I think you would have problems like you’ve never seen before. I think bad things would happen, I really do. I believe that. I wouldn’t lead it but I think bad things would happen.”
Except it isn't.
BTFW, I'm STILL waiting for you to post one iota of evidence to support you seed.
Don't hold your breath cuz it isn't coming.
What?
Oh I never do, especially when it comes to the seeder, who doesn't even try.
No proof given. The link you provided is talking about the nominating convention and not the election care to try again
Pretty fucking hard to get elected if you don't win the nomination.
Again he wasn’t talking about the election. He was taking Intra party politics if the GOP establishment tried to take the nomination away from him.
You were the one who said that you helped elect Trump when you voted for him in the primary Xx.
Another "I heard from a friend of a friend". Did you even play the video? It had nothing to do with the election. But then again if you watched it you would know that.
Still two separate and unrelated issues.
Not based on your own statements Xx.
And it was the Hillary supporters who went out and ranted and rave and cried and screamed and rioted and refused to accept the results of the election. It was Hillary supporters that acted unamerican and almost started a civil war and they are still at it 4years later.
All true and expect more of the same from Biden supporters when they lose too
By the looks of it, they've already lost.
Dem’s Minions – A.F. Branco Cartoon
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Democrats have no problem with riots and protest spreading the coronavirus but they’re outraged over Trump Rallies. Political cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2020.
The bottom line...
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Then prove me wrong.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFCTpnpFMRx/?igshid=16wv8rgwkcgvl
Was it just 4 years ago the Democrats and their parrots were claiming it was un-American not to accept election results? My, how times flies...
Yep in 2016 Trump threatened to not accept the results if he lost.
Pretty sure that Trump will have to be dragged out of the White house screaming and kicking like the insane child he is.
Nope. We are going to carry him out on our shoulders into retirement as a conquering hero on Jan. 20, 2025!
Prove it! I know what he really said.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CFA1WKKngiA/?igshid=6r8itm6p135k
wait...
so, we can re-elect trump AND put a boot up the lunatic lefts ass?
well then, I say game on, seriously, let's do this
just one more reason to vote trump2020
Exactly!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bwNIz33wxzQ