count me as another defector.

So far, now, there have been 33 defectors since 10:28 last night. I've never seen anything like it. And this isn't the only site receiving refugees. I know I'm not the brightest bulb in the pack, but did TPTB at NV really believe they were changing things for the better? Did they? Are they that egotistical and dense? I don't expect an answer. I'm not sure there are any. But I AM happy to see a lot of my friends from the Vine showing up here, and I hope everyone will settle in and get comfy here. I've been here a few months and have no complaints.

Bitemore... I am sad too... I really liked that site.. but it is really tedious and dififcult to post in just the nations and have it be only in one nation. And we can only have 15 nations. It fed my paranoia of things going on without my knowing... LOL!!!

bitemore

I missed seeing you around there.I think its been months since I have ran across you there. Of course my name is different now than over there...more to my mentality. Secrets, secrets.

erich

good to see you here as well.

peace

Erich and Erinn: I've pretty much given up on NV. It used to be fun, and I had so many wonderful friends there... but I am delighted to see so many of those friends here... with or without their old names. Seeing so many friends here has lessened the shock of losing the Vine. And it is lost. No two ways about it. But mourning doesn't last forever, and this, too, shall pass and fade from memory (especially for fossils like me )!

I'm just so glad that THIS site is growing, and with so many friends!!! Yeeeehaaaa!

I grieved for NV, and was sad for a long time. No more. The word is: No going back to Classic, ever. No major changes to the site. This is it.

I haven't deleted my account there, yet. But may soon!

Love to all of you that are "new" here, and looking forward to knowing you even better!

LOVE YOU, Bitey!

I'm with you, dear Dowsey... I'm very happy to see this site grow, and at such a rate: 48 since 8:42 AM on the 6th! And this is just ONE site. I know there are others, and I know that people are moving to them. If the decision-makers at Newsvine are happy with themselves, then okay: they can be happy with themselves. But without me. I'm giving them a week to come to their senses, and then I'll probably delete my account if they have decided to continue destroying the place. Frankly, I give them a month before they fold, if they continue at this rate. But, maybe it is true: all they really want is page-views, to make money off of ads. Fine, but they'll do it without my presence or cooperation.

Anyway, I'll work through the grieving process and then get over it. Especially since the best Viners are now Talkers.

{{{{{Dowsey}}}}}

Hi, Jerry! NV rolled out a new "beta" version (back in July, for a few hundred "beta testers" only, at the time). Then, yesterday, it went live and... is imploding almost non-stop. The non-testers, which were most of the vine population, were aware on some level that there was a bet-thing going on, but they couldn't see it or interact with it. So, when it went live yesterday morning, the shock was really too much for most of them. The real problem? We beta testers tried and tried and tried to get TPTB to understand that we HATED the new platform. But no one paid attention. And now? Now Viners are fleeing in droves, seeking a site that is as comfortable to navigate as the old Vine was. I don't see myself staying there for more than a few more days. Until Thursday. That is how long they have to pull the plug and revert to the Classic version. I'm not holding my breath. I'm very happy here on NewsTalkers, and have no plans to go anywhere else.

Unfortunate that NV decided the update needed to be a combination of Facebook and HuffPost and then compartmentalize discussion primarily to Nations. Reading through 15 Nations for comments and responses?

Since when is a general forum accessible to all a bad thing?

bluearcher: earlier this evening I tried to scroll from the next "new" comment to the next, to the next, etc., through several nations. As my scrolling proceeded, it got slower and slower and jerkier and jerkier until my poor ol' computer simply refused to scroll any farther Actually, it isn't even an "old" computer! It is a laptop about a year old, lots of RAM... and the Vine's new bloatware is simply too much for it (browser was Firefox on that computer). I think the Vine is too cumbersome even for some gaming machines... So, even assuming everyone has the patience of a Saint and really good computers, it really is asking too much for anyone to have to scroll for an hour just to read NEW comments, much less all comments in a popular article. Methinks they screwed the pooch over there.

I guess a number of large glaciers moved with their F&Fs.

Let's see what happens next.

I'm just curious, because I'm not a techie, but is anyone else finding that, when they are using Newsvine, they lose their internet connection after awhile? I just realized that it was happening to me yesterday if I tried to open more than one Newsvine tab. Is that site using so much bandwidth that most connections cannot keep up? Or is Comcast just doing what Comcast does best (screw with the customers). We have a new modem, and it worked well for a week, right up to the day Newsvine went live with its 3.0. Odd coincidence, if that is what it is.

Happy to have you, Mom RN!