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January Sixth was a watershed

  
By:  Bob Nelson  •  3 years ago  •  9 comments


January Sixth was a watershed



Supporters of President Trump overran the Capitol of the United States of America, killing a policeman

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There is no doubt that the people who assaulted and occupied the Capitol were Trump supporters.

There is no doubt of their harmful intent.

There is no doubt that on January Sixth, supporters of Donald Trump murderously assaulted the Congress of the United States.


We have seen that President Donald Trump's policies were fascist .

What about the thousands of people who were present on January Sixth? Were they all fascists? Doubtful.

Then again... Were all the millions of Germans who voted for Adolf Hitler to be Chancellor Nazis? We know they were not. We also know that enough non-Nazi Germans voted for Hitler for him to actually become Chancellor.

Who are the people who vote for ... who enable ... a fascist? 

Unless someone is a mind-reader, we cannot know what these people believe . On the other hand, we can see what they do . They actively promote the cause of a fascist.

Not being mind-readers we cannot state affirmatively that all the people at the Capitol of January Sixth are fascists. But the fact that they were there, giving moral support (at least) to the murderous criminals who actually invaded the Capitol... proves that they are at the very least "fascist-fellow-travelers" .

( The term  fellow traveller  (also  fellow traveler ) identifies a person who is intellectually sympathetic to the ideology of a political organization, and who co-operates in the organization's politics, without being a formal member of that organization. - Wikipedia )


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Bob Nelson
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1  author  Bob Nelson    3 years ago

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Bob Nelson
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2  author  Bob Nelson    3 years ago

So the people at the Capitol (minus the small handful who saw what was happening and left immediately so as not to be in any way involved) were there to "actively promote the cause of a fascist".

That's the definition of a "fascist-fellow-traveler".

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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3  author  Bob Nelson    3 years ago

We have lots of members on NT who "actively promote the cause of a fascist". We have lots of members on NT who are fascist-fellow-travelers.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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4  author  Bob Nelson    3 years ago

Being a fascist-fellow-traveler is not illegal.

Shouting to the world that one is a fascist-fellow-traveler is perfectly legal. That is, in effect, the message of every "Trump 2020" flag that has ever flown.

Back in the 1930s, lots of people were proud to announce that they were fascists, or fascist-fellow-travelers, if they hadn't formally signed up. 

After the Holocaust, there were fewer who were proud to call themselves fascists.

But the millions of Americans who actively supported a fascist for President were by definition fascist-fellow-travelers. Unless they've renounced their vows to Donald Trump, they are still fascist-fellow-travelers.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    3 years ago

"White grievance" folks have always been a large part of Trump's base. 

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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5.1  author  Bob Nelson  replied to  JohnRussell @5    3 years ago

"White grievance" is a racist dogwhistle.

Dogwhistles are an essential part of any fascist-fellow-traveler's baggage. Many fascist propositions are morally repugnant, so the people who espouse them must resort to a vocabulary understood among them but not understood by others.

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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6  author  Bob Nelson    3 years ago

It is perfectly legal to support President Trump.

Since, as we have seen , President Trump's policies were fascist, anyone who supports those policies is - by their own choice - a fascist-fellow-traveler.

This applies to anyone... including members of The Newstalkers . Any member who supports Trump policies - authoritarian and xenophobe - is a either a fascist-fellow-traveler, or an outright fascist.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
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7  Trotsky's Spectre    3 years ago
'January Sixth was a watershed.'

Agreed! January 7, our people put it this way [emphasis added]:

' The fascist insurrection in Washington DC —which resulted in the storming of the US Congress, the panicked dispersal of terrified senators and members of the House, the delay of the official validation of Joseph Biden’s Electoral College majority, and even the occupation of the office of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi— is a turning point in the political history of the United States. '
 
 
 
CB
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8  CB    3 years ago

Sen. Tim Scott Says that Trump “Simply is NOT Guilty” of Impeachable Offenses!

Here is a Republican Senator whose 'home' in the Capitol was overran and "pattied-on" by Trump supporters, and he is standing up for the monster/guy former President! Likely wanting him back 'in the saddle' in a long four years. Can we just say that the republicans in the Senate do not recognize an off-ramp out of "H" when it stares them directly in their faces?

 
 

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