I agree ambiv. I wasn't attributing the behavior to Islam. I was simply adding that it takes a lot of courage to both discuss what she discussed and knowing that she could be killed for stating andfollowingher beliefs about gender equality.
OMG I have twin daughters... Good thing they were born here.
My daughter's boyfriend is watching this video. His family is from Nigeria but he was raised in England. From what I saw, he is a very modern fellow and very domesticated. I know that he has some traditional Nigerian values, but sexism doesn't seem to be one of them. I am sure he will have something to say about this.
In Nigeria, 50% of the population is Muslim and 40% is Christian, leaving 10% "traditional". So their sexism isn't solely based on Islam but tradition, too.
My friend, who has also been my boss for over 8 years, is from Nigeria and he was educated in both England and France. His family is...how shall I say, into petroleum.
"Was I worried that men would be intimidated by me? I was not worried at all, because a man who would be intimidated by be is exactly the kind of man I would have no interest in...."
Very good video from Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. I agree with everything she said.
One of my favorite women in the world was Margaret Thatcher, called the "Iron Lady" by a Soviet journalist, was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and leader of the Conservative Party.
Being a conservative female it is much more difficult to obtain respect as the media and their followers condemn these ladies even though they may have many more accomplishments in their lives.
It kind of reminds me of the statement I've heard. "You can't be a racist if you are black."
Being a conservative female it is much more difficult to obtain respect as the media and their followers condemn these ladies even though they may have many more accomplishments in their lives.
I think you've made a very good point, as does the video. Bias and preconceptions, no matter the origin or basis - gender, political or what have you - should not affect our goals and aspirations for the betterment of our Human Race. It's a travesty when opportunity is limited for a qualified person based on an inferior view by those that feel they are 'better' - not in performance - but as a human being.
I would say the conservative woman has a much more difficult time than a liberal woman in today's society as the media always comes down on the conservative woman and is much more forgiving to the liberal woman in our society.
The media is super bias and the average American voter is quite uninformed due to this bias.
Worse yet, is when they are perceived by others to be the betterhuman being, especially when a job is at stake.
I disagree with this statement. I don't think it is any worse but just as bad either way.
I just find the liberal media vets the conservative person and forgives the liberal person.
You see, I see person. I don't see female or male. I don't see black or white. I see person. I feel equality should be allotted equally to all. And starting at that point, then it is up to the person to make the difference in their life.
I was talking about pay equality, more money that a man will automatically receive, just for being male, than a woman in the same position in the same place of work.
To those who actually consider this subject a serious study instead of a political slogan that conclusion is flawed at best . When one takes other factors besides gender into account there is no pay inequity . Feel free to ask what those other factors are ...
I have advanced training in statistics . And I have looked into this particular issue in detail . What you have is an attitude and little else . That is clearly demonstrated by your lack of interest in pursuing the details involved in this issue .
Clearly, you come on to my pages to be negative and contradictory, to disrupt.
Clearly your defensiveness outweighs your interest in furthering understanding . If this is your example of your civility it shows a lack of same .
many consider you to be ridiculous.
Very "mature" . It is nice to see you reverting to infantile perjoratives when your pet theories are challenged .
I agree you are usually quite agreeable . I don't see any need for you to apologize however . You have stated your opinion and your motivations . Most commenters leave out their motivations which allows room for nefarious hidden agendas . You don't . I respect that .
I expect that mentioning feminism in Nigeria without mentioning the dangers of Islam would be avoiding the real issue .
Brillant....Should add that she has a lot of courage, considering what is going on in Nigeria right now.
I agree ambiv. I wasn't attributing the behavior to Islam. I was simply adding that it takes a lot of courage to both discuss what she discussed and knowing that she could be killed for stating andfollowingher beliefs about gender equality.
Sorry if I wasn't clear in my post.
Oh, OK...
My reading comprehension is a bit off today. I've only had 2 cups of coffee...
You mean for things like pay equity ?
OMG I have twin daughters... Good thing they were born here.
My daughter's boyfriend is watching this video. His family is from Nigeria but he was raised in England. From what I saw, he is a very modern fellow and very domesticated. I know that he has some traditional Nigerian values, but sexism doesn't seem to be one of them. I am sure he will have something to say about this.
Petey,
In Nigeria, 50% of the population is Muslim and 40% is Christian, leaving 10% "traditional". So their sexism isn't solely based on Islam but tradition, too.
BF,
It's not like they are encouraging this kind of behavior:
And problems don't have to be handled one at a time.
Having spent a month in Nigeria, among neo-traditional Yorba people, yes, their customs dictate a female in a submissive role.
I doubt it requires as much submission as Islam which actually means submission ...
My friend, who has also been my boss for over 8 years, is from Nigeria and he was educated in both England and France. His family is...how shall I say, into petroleum.
Tarred & feathered ?
Just so you know, urban and educated Africans, regardless of their country, do NOT practice that.
Of course . How foolish of me to think they would share a US cultural practice .
To paraphrase:
I love that statement.
Thank you, ambi.
That is a given Aeon. I just felt that it should be addressed.
Happy Birthday Grump!
Happy Birthday Grump.
Bah humbug. But, thanks.
Very good video from Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie. I agree with everything she said.
One of my favorite women in the world was Margaret Thatcher, called the "Iron Lady" by a Soviet journalist, was Prime Minister of the United Kingdom and leader of the Conservative Party.
Being a conservative female it is much more difficult to obtain respect as the media and their followers condemn these ladies even though they may have many more accomplishments in their lives.
It kind of reminds me of the statement I've heard. "You can't be a racist if you are black."
I think you've made a very good point, as does the video. Bias and preconceptions, no matter the origin or basis - gender, political or what have you - should not affect our goals and aspirations for the betterment of our Human Race. It's a travesty when opportunity is limited for a qualified person based on an inferior view by those that feel they are 'better' - not in performance - but as a human being.
Yes..
I would say the conservative woman has a much more difficult time than a liberal woman in today's society as the media always comes down on the conservative woman and is much more forgiving to the liberal woman in our society.
The media is super bias and the average American voter is quite uninformed due to this bias.
I disagree with this statement. I don't think it is any worse but just as bad either way.
I just find the liberal media vets the conservative person and forgives the liberal person.
You see, I see person. I don't see female or male. I don't see black or white. I see person. I feel equality should be allotted equally to all. And starting at that point, then it is up to the person to make the difference in their life.
To those who actually consider this subject a serious study instead of a political slogan that conclusion is flawed at best . When one takes other factors besides gender into account there is no pay inequity . Feel free to ask what those other factors are ...
I have advanced training in statistics . And I have looked into this particular issue in detail . What you have is an attitude and little else . That is clearly demonstrated by your lack of interest in pursuing the details involved in this issue .
Clearly your defensiveness outweighs your interest in furthering understanding . If this is your example of your civility it shows a lack of same .
Very "mature" . It is nice to see you reverting to infantile perjoratives when your pet theories are challenged .
I agree you are usually quite agreeable . I don't see any need for you to apologize however . You have stated your opinion and your motivations . Most commenters leave out their motivations which allows room for nefarious hidden agendas . You don't . I respect that .