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Does the Freedom of Speech allow you the Right to Insult?

  

Category:  Scattershooting,Ramblings & Life

Via:  z  •  11 years ago  •  18 comments

Does the Freedom of Speech allow you the Right to Insult?

Item: Egyptian satirist Bassem Youssef, frequently compared to American comedian Jon Stewart, was arrested and released on the charge that he insulted President Mohamed Mursi, who was propelled into power by the Muslim Brotherhood of Evil Mutants.

Item: Bill Maher and Rush Limbaugh representing the left and right respectively, who make their living insulting people, have never been arrested, although many feel that both have exceeded what would be termed as "acceptable."

Query - The Freedom of Speech in the United States is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution but it does have legal limitations. a) Does it give one the right to insult anyone, at anytime and to any degree? b) Does it or should it also have limitations?


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Spikegary
Junior Quiet
link   Spikegary    11 years ago

In many Middle Eastern cultures there are 'insult' laws that don't allow you to insult others, though they are very 'protectionist' for those in power that don't like to hear criticism and are rarely applied to just the regular guy and say, his next door neighbor.

 
 
 
Shub Orinuj
Freshman Silent
link   Shub Orinuj    11 years ago
Where does America rank in freedom of speech in the world? Instead of limiting perhaps we should thrive for more freedoms.
 
 
 
LoneRanger01
Freshman Silent
link   LoneRanger01    11 years ago

Ir really depends upon where you are standing or where you are at when the insult is delivered. if your on a forum whith rules against insults then no you do not have that right,..however if you are standing on a public street and you wish to deliever an insult you have the right to do it,...keep in mind you need to be bigger or faster than the person you are insulting,.....

 
 
 
Miss_Construed
Freshman Silent
link   Miss_Construed    11 years ago

You can say whatever you want... as long as you are willing to deal with the consequences.

Freedom of speech does not imply protection from speech. It also doesnt imply protection of speech.

If you want to go out and protest gay marriage by barraging people with hate speech, curses, and damnation; you go ahead... but if some gay person starts calling you names right back... them's the breaks.

Likewise, you yell fire and get three people trampled, you're up for murder charges in my book.

So... dont dish it if you cant take it.

Just my opinion.

 
 
 
bluearcher
Freshman Silent
link   bluearcher    11 years ago

Being offended starts and ends with the "insulted" individual.

Too frequently, freedom of speech runs counter to oppressive governments and archaic religions and such speechrestrictivelaws are used tosuppressand eliminate competition.

In this example: neither the Egyptian government or the absurd creed of Islam can withstand scrutiny and critique.

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
link   Krishna    11 years ago

Where does America rank in freedom of speech in the world? Instead of limiting perhaps we should thrive for more freedoms.

The US has more freedom of speech than most countries in the world (including, btw, much of Europe).

To cite but one example-- in most Muslim countries there is a widespread obsession with religion. There you do not have the freedom say or publish anything critical of Mohammed, (PBUH) or even Islam in general. And if you do, you will go to jail-- or worse:

A few days after their conviction, police in Pakistan arrested Rimsha Masih, an 11-year-old Christian girl reported to have Down Syndrome, on charges of blasphemy for purportedly burning pages of the Koran. If convicted, she could face the death penalty. ( Link )

Expressing political view that differ from your own, or burning the Koran (or the Bible, etc) may piss some people off-- but they are all examples of the right to free speech that we have in the U.S. (and often take for granted).

In addition, as most of those countries are either dictatorships or democracies in name only, with much less freedom of speech than in the U.S., you can also go to jail for criti8ci8aing the government-- even speaking or publishing the sort of relatively mild criticism of the government that appears on sites like NT every day!

 
 
 
Sparrow
Freshman Silent
link   Sparrow    11 years ago

There should be no limit to free speech. Once you limit speech, you limit freedoms. Our rights are being eroded exponentially and free speech is under attack now. We are being watched as we type and I'm sure we all use some of the words that automatically get flagged. We are under constant surveillance and not many seem to care. If they are not looking to limit rights, why are they watching?

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

Well.

To me, personal freedom of speech is in allowing one to say what one is thinking/feeling. Some people may be offended by the fact that you feel differently than they do, but most of the time, people aren't offended if you respect their thoughts, as well.

But, I also think that with freedom comes responsibility. I have to be responsible enough to say my differing opinion in a way that is respectful, not trying to harm others. I have to say what I want in a way that doesn't create turmoil, like NOT screaming "Fire" in a theater. Freedom/responsibility go hand in hand.

At least that is what I think. I'm glad that I live here in the US-- most countries are not so free. Smile.gif

 
 
 
Strangerthanfiction
Freshman Silent
link   Strangerthanfiction    11 years ago

Bang on Dowser 3.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

Yeah... It does SO much good! LOL! Smile.gif

 
 
 
Krishna
Professor Expert
link   Krishna    11 years ago

Does the Freedom of Speech allow you the Right to Insult?

Not in most countries in the world.

However in he U.S. we do have that right:

The idea that we have an inalienable right to live in a protective bubble, free from offensive on our own terms has permeated to our sister nation of the United Kingdom as well, where Muslim leaders decried the Danish Muhammad cartoons, and on televised debates, 50% of the call-in audience supported the notion that people have a right to not be offended.

Of course, one's opinion on the matter is pretty much irrelevant, the question is a matter of legality and Constitutionality. Free speech is not stipulated as being inhibited in any way except when it is determined that the immediate usage of free speech would create a scenario that would result in an imminent danger. The Supreme Court defined this as "yelling fire in a crowded theater"

Nowhere is there a stipulation stating that if someone ruffles their nose and gets offended by what you say, you're not allowed to say it. That means that, no matter how much you dislike someone saying it, no matter how much it causes you to gasp, no matter how little you agree with them, they have the right to say it in all of their Constitutional glory.

That KKK can say whatever they want, distort the Bible as much as they want, and hate Jews and Blacks as much as they want. That means that rappers can use vulgarities as much as they want, talk about rape and murder as much as they want, and glamorize the worst parts of our society as much as they want. That means Muslims can continue to tell people that Jews are apes and pigs.

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Sparrow
Freshman Silent
link   Sparrow    11 years ago

This is a good place to discuss the difference between freedom of speech and bigotry. For some reason, the religious can't understand this important difference and it's what frustrates me more than anything about the self-righteous.

Freedom of speech applies in your personal life, not your public life. You can say anything you want in public, anything at all. The line is drawn on neutral territory, where you can't treat people differently in a public setting, no matter your personal views. When you have a business that is "open to the public", you have no right to express your personal views to the exclusion of some. When you hang an "Open" sign, it's unconditional and neutral to differing views about things that have nothing to do with a business deal.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Expert
link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    11 years ago

Freedom of speech is only a true freedom when it is tested.

Insulting a person is a test.

As long as it doesn't endanger the public welfare, it's a go.

 
 
 
Shub Orinuj
Freshman Silent
link   Shub Orinuj    11 years ago
Sticking the middle finger to a cop is legally an insult, so yes.
 
 
 
Polka-san
Freshman Silent
link   Polka-san    11 years ago

The Bill of Rights should have zero limitations whatsoever from any government entity.

 
 
 
Polka-san
Freshman Silent
link   Polka-san    11 years ago

Nobody is faster than a bullet. Maybe people should think twice before attacking people over what they say.

 
 
 
Dustin Klinko
Freshman Silent
link   Dustin Klinko    11 years ago

Okay honest we as Americans have freedom of speech in my opinion you can say whatever you want to whom ever you want. The problem is that people get offended way to easily these days. When I am out in public I don't try and offend people but if I do so what you are offended and I don't have to care or say I'm sorry. I'm not going to try to offend you unless you offend me so say what you want but I'll dish it right back. If you aren't prepared to pay the consequences then watch what you say.

 
 

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