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Christian teen arrested in Egypt for allegedly posting Muhammad cartoons on Facebook

  

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Via:  larry-hampton  •  12 years ago  •  67 comments

Christian teen arrested in Egypt for allegedly posting Muhammad cartoons on Facebook

On Tuesday a prosecutor in Egypt ruled that a 15-year-old Coptic Christian boy must remain in custody for at least 15 days while an investigation is conducted into whether he posted cartoons on Facebook depicting the Prophet Muhammad.

The Egyptian newspaperAl-Masry Al-Youm reported thatGamal Abdallah Masoud, a high school student in the central Egyptian town of Baheeg , has denied posting the images, claiming they were added to his Facebook wall without his permission.

On New Years Eve, after news first spread of Masouds alleged online activity, riots broke out in Baheeg and three other nearby towns in the province of Asyut.



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Larry Hampton
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link   seeder  Larry Hampton    12 years ago

Egypt is a mostly Muslim country, with a Coptic Christian population of about 10 percent.


 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    12 years ago

You know that it wouldn't be hard to hack an account and post photos . Even the account of the police chief of Baheeg . Not that I'm suggesting such an action ...

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

Egypt is a mostly Muslim country, with a Coptic Christian population of about 10 percent.

Persecution of Christians was bad under Mubarak-- but has gotten much worse as a result of the so-called "Arab Spring".

 
 
 
Kori
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link   Kori    12 years ago

"On New Years Eve, after news first spread of Masouds alleged online activity, riots broke out in Baheeg and three other nearby towns in the province of Asyut.

Muslim villagers threw rocks at police and set fires in at least six homes owned by Christians, including Masouds home, which was empty at the time. Seven officers were hospitalized after police used tear gas to disperse therioters."

Over-react much??? Geesh!!

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

"On New Years Eve, after news first spread of Masouds alleged online activity, riots broke out in Baheeg and three other nearby towns in the province of Asyut.

Muslim villagers threw rocks at police and set fires in at least six homes owned by Christians, including Masouds home, which was empty at the time. Seven officers were hospitalized after police used tear gas to disperse therioters."

Over-react much??? Geesh!!

Remember the "Mohammed Cartoon Crisis"-- when a Danish newspaper published some rather mild carto/ons of Mohammed?it resulted in over 140 deaths!!!

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

"On New Years Eve, after news first spread of Masouds alleged online activity, riots broke out in Baheeg and three other nearby towns in the province of Asyut.

Muslim villagers threw rocks at police and set fires in at least six homes owned by Christians, including Masouds home, which was empty at the time. Seven officers were hospitalized after police used tear gas to disperse therioters."

Over-react much??? Geesh!!

Remember the "Mohammed Cartoon Crisis"-- when a Danish newspaper published some rather mild carto/ons of Mohammed?it resulted in over 140 deaths!!!

And some amazingly inflammatory pronouncements as well. Here's a video of a demonstration against the cartoons, in front of the Danish Embassy in London. Check out what is written on the signs they are carrying:

Allahu Akhbar!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    12 years ago

Larry and I got hit with a Miley virus on FB. How does the government know that this isn't another hack job?

 
 
 
Kori
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link   Kori    12 years ago

^ Krishna,

Yes, I remember the aftermath of the cartoonincident in Denmark. I also rememberthe deathof Theo van Gogh, murdered by Mohammed Bouyeri a Dutch-Morrocan Muslim, for making a movie with Ayaan Hirsi Ali about theviolence against women in Islamic societies.

I belong toVoiceof the Copts (Egypt),Farsi Christian News (Iran), Voice of the Martyrsthatpublishesnews of what's happeningwith Christians in those locations, as well as around the globe in otherMuslim countries.Many people are imprisioned or killed for simple, innocentexpressions of their faith. There is very littlereligious freedom or tolerance in Muslim countries, with the possible exception ofJordan.

 
 
 
Shel F
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link   Shel F    12 years ago

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

Religion of peace....my ass......

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

There is very littlereligious freedom or tolerance in Muslim countries, with the possible exception ofJordan.

That does seem to be the case.

I am trying to think of any exceptions i've heard of. I think Morrocco maybe a bit more tolerant of minorities than the others-- but I'm not sure. And, I beleive i've heard that Kosovo Muslims tend to be more moderate than most others?

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

Larry and I got hit with a Miley virus on FB. How does the government know that this isn't another hack job?

It probably doesn't matter-- if they want to persecute someone, they will. (Egypt was bad under Mubarak-- but as a result of the so=ca;;ed "Arab-Spring" its gotten much worse for everyone-- and especially minorities.

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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Some are worse than others . To deny that is absurd and tragic .

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

None of them are.

Unitarian-Universalists?

Bahaii?

Quakers?

Most branches of Buddhists?

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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You're also talking about ancient history for some of them . BTW Buddhism is a very major belief system .

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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Fair enough . Since you were raised under one of those belief systems you know what that means about you ...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    12 years ago

Randy,

Quakers are Christianpacifist. To make a blanket statement like that isn't fair.

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

I'm talking about the big three.

Tch, tch, tch Randal Snyder -- very ethnocentric of you :)

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

Just found this:

Major Religions of the World Ranked by Number of Adherents

(Sizes shown are approximate estimates , and are here mainly for the purpose of ordering the groups, not providing a definitive number. This list is sociological/statistical in perspective.)

  1. Christianity : 2.1 billion
  2. Islam : 1.5 billion
  3. Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist : 1.1 billion
  4. Hinduism : 900 million
  5. Chinese traditional religion : 394 million
  6. Buddhism : 376 million
  7. primal-indigenous : 300 million
  8. African Traditional & Diasporic : 100 million
  9. Sikhism : 23 million
  10. Juche : 19 million
 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

Quakers are Christianpacifist. To make a blanket statement like that isn't fair.

I think the Baha'i are pretty cool as well:

Basic Teachings of Bah'u'llh

Bah'u'llh taught that there is one God whose successive revelations of His will to humanity have been the chief civilizing force in history.

The agents of this process have been the Divine Messengers whom people have seen chiefly as the founders of separate religious systems but whose common purpose has been to bring the human race to spiritual and moral maturity.

Humanity is now coming of age. It is this that makes possible the unification of the human family and the building of a peaceful, global society. Among the principles which the Bah' Faith promotes as vital to the achievement of this goal are:

the abandonment of all forms of prejudice

assurance to women of full equality of opportunity with men

recognition of the unity and relativity of religious truth

the elimination of extremes of poverty and wealth

the realization of universal education

the responsibility of each person to independently search for truth

the establishment of a global commonwealth of nations

recognition that true religion is in harmony with reason and the pursuit of scientific

 
 
 
Shel F
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link   Shel F    12 years ago

Well, Buddha was sort of peace loving ; )

However, yes, I do agree.

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

I'm talking about the big three.

So do you consider the "big three" to be Christianity, Islam, and Atheism-- or Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism?

1. Christianity: 2.1 billion
2. Islam: 1.5 billion
3. Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
4. Hinduism: 900 million

 
 
 
Shel F
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link   Shel F    12 years ago

Okely dokely, that edit did NOT work.

Well anyway, I was going to say that many, sadly, are not so peace loving, so in a sense, I agree with what Randy said.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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I think that it's a matter of degree. Anyextremestbelief is going to be harmful. But moderate ones probably not.

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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I don't know why this is so difficult to understand . If a religion does not espouse the active suppression of destructive behavior it is going to result in permitting such behavior . And there is one particular religion which fits that description . Does anyone need me to spell it out ?

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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"Give me an "I""!

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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link   Petey Coober    12 years ago

Does anyone else know how to spell too or are Larry & I alone here ??

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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From here on out, the letter "I" is only to be used in reference to mo's peaceful religion. All other uses will be considered blasphemous.

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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"It means that I became an atheist"

That's nice . It also means you still have the "blood on your hands" . If centuries can't wash it off , neither can your "conversion" .

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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RDS ,

If you can "wash off the blood" by just changing your POV then so can the religious . If they are far more peaceful now and believe that peace is the way to proceed then they to have freed themselves of the past .

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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Even the Mafia has been somewhat reformed . This is America . They now own hotels and casinos in Las Vegas . They have "gone legit" .

 
 
 
wmolaw
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link   wmolaw    12 years ago

You mean the "Arab Christian Winter"

What a joke. Funny how our press really isn't covering this with the same panache as they did the fall of Mubarak, eh?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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Funny how our press really isn't covering this with the same panache as they did the fall of Mubarak, eh?

Very True! I guess things didn't go as planned.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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Depends on who ya talk to. The muslim brotherhood probably feel that they are close to being on target.

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

All Christian based religions carry the same shame and stain.

So ten...you are openly admitting that you are a bigot..???

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

Well anyway, I was going to say that many, sadly, are not so peace loving, so in a sense, I agree with what Randy said.

true...many beleivers are not peace-loving.

(But, of course, its also true that man Atheists are not peace loving either).

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

All other uses will be considered blasphemous.

Should blasphemy be made a crime???

(It is in some places...)

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

"Give me an "I""!

Christianity?
That has an "i' in it-- in fact-- it has three "i" 's!

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

Remember the "Mohammed Cartoon Crisis"-- when a Danish newspaper published some rather mild carto/ons of Mohammed?it resulted in over 140 deaths!!!

The "Mohammed Cartoons" were publ;ish in 2005 or 2006-- but from time to time there is stil craziness rsulting from publication of alledged images of Mohammed.

This story is from 2010:

Danish police shoot intruder at cartoonist's home

Kurt Westergaard Sept 2006
Kurt Westergaard has had a price on his head since 200

Danish police have shot and wounded a man at the home of Kurt Westergaard, whose cartoon depicting the Prophet Muhammad sparked an international row.

Mr Westergaard scrambled into a panic room at his home in Aarhus after a man wielding an axe and a knife broke in.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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Judgment is mine, sayeth Larry!

:~)

I am perfectly fine with critiquing and believe that the same standards should be used to judge all. In that regard, where do we place the culture of death? Along side any other modern day religion , it comes up wanting.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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Petey Coober
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Yum , grasshoppers !

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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Nope, Krishna points to a bigotry, that is evidenced in your post Randy. It's there for all to see.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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I've read every comment on this seed Randy, you don't have to explain what I can clearly deduce. This has nothing to do with comments from an atheist view-point; I love a good debate!

Reason is the natural order of truth; but imagination is the organ of meaning. ~ C.S. Lewis

It takes little reason and nearly no imagination, to parse meaning from your own words Randy.

 
 
 
Petey Coober
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RDS ,

"The accusation of bigotry is one that people who follow a religion throw at atheists"

You seem to be implying that atheists can't be bigoted . Is that because you think your "truth" is more truthful than theirs ?

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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Since there is no real defense for the truth of my statement concerning religion

So get back to that and back it up, instead of lumping all people of all religions, into the same black pot.

The responsessolicitedby your comments had nothing to do with disengaging the point; they cut to the heart of the matter, which is that your point is fundamentally flawed to start with, by your stereotyping. There are good, innocent folks from all varied walks of life...some even believe in Jesus.

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

I think I now remember why I stopped responding to you awhile back. You dissect peoplesentences like a little boy slicing up a grasshopper.

Well, that my your perception of what I am doing.

However, here's what I am actually doing:

1.I read peoples' comments pretty carefully.

2. Until proven otherwise, I assume people mean what they say! (For example, if you mention the "top three religions", it seems obvious that you are referring to Christianity, Islam, and Hinduism.

If you don't want people to believe that you are saying what you actually mean-- then perhaps you might consider being more accurate in what you post in comments?

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

I think I now remember why I stopped responding to you awhile back. You dissect peoplesentences like a little boy slicing up a grasshopper. You twist peoples words and take them purposely wrong and sometimes out of contextas a way to try to make a point and"win" a debate. It's childish, though I am sure it makes you feel "superior". It's just a shame that you seem to feel the need. You really don't have to, you know?

Re-reading your comment, it seems like it might be considered a "personal attack". (Oh-- the horror! I am shocked- - shocked I tell you!).

Or perhaps even one of those fabled " derails". from days of yore.

However, since the COH does not apply here (we use the COC here instead..)-- I will ignore violations of the COH!

Will only consider COH violations when crossing over to another jurisdiction. ..as it were...

Heh :-)

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

Yum , grasshoppers !

Well-- as long as they aren't too.. .large!

 
 
 
Krishna
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link   Krishna    12 years ago

The accusation of bigotry is one that people who follow a religion throw at atheists when they point out a truth they don't like,as if it really means something other then they can't find a real word of criticism against them that doesn't seem faith based. It's a go to stereotype word, like socialist when one is just a democrat or pacifist when one objects to any war at all. It's a catch all and like most catch all stereotypes is a load of shit...

Well, I do have to agree that some people (especially people with a political or religious or Atheistic agenda of one sort or another) do often overuse certain words when making attacks. Some of them have been overused to the point of being cliches.

One of the worst example of this, IMO, is how many folks have come to use the accusation of racism.

And besides calling someone a "racist' when they are not-- sometime its used when its not even a matter of race!

(But, of course, sometimes the same words are used correctly).

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
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I don't need a list of links, just honesty.

So tell me Randy, would you consider Mother Teresa stained? I think she would say she is. If you know anything at all about about Judeo-Christian belief systems, it is obvious that a basic tenant is theacknowledgmentof human imperfection.

While I could hang with your premise that all religions are fantasy based (as a discussion point), and talk about that, you pointedly round on Christianity. Is that because you believe Christianity to be more cruel or militant? Is it because of personal experience.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    12 years ago

Randy,

Or maybe it was Krishna was trying to get clarity about his faith? Why presume the worst?

Everyone views their life from their perspective, including him.

 
 

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