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The murky ethics of making monkeys pick our coconuts

  

Category:  Religion & Ethics

Via:  lets-get-lost  •  10 years ago  •  17 comments

The murky ethics of making monkeys pick our coconuts

 

The murky ethics of making monkeys pick our coconuts


 






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  If a creature is smart enough to pick coconuts, is it fair to make him? This is the question at the heart of a controversy over pigtailed macaques in Thailand that excel at picking coconuts loved by Western consumers — but do so on leashes.


“What I find most distressing is that they take them from wild, keep them tethered and keep them that way their whole life,” Marji Beach, education director of the California farm sanctuary Animal Place,  told NPR . “Monkeys should stay in the wild.”

Leaving the deft-fingered macaques in the wild might deal quite the blow to the coconut biz. As  NPR noted , males can harvest an average of 1,600 coconuts per day, while females can harvest 600. Compared with their less-evolved brethren, humans are real apes at this game, bringing home just 80 per day.




http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2015/10/20/the-murky-ethics-of-making-monkeys-pick-our-coconuts/

"...Monkeys are] strong, enjoy climbing, are not afraid of heights, do not complain, do not call for higher wages … and are not corrupt,”  the school’s Web site read . “They do not require social security and accident insurance. Monkeys are therefore considered a ‘living machine’ that is very valuable for coconut farmers.”

Perhaps this is the attitude that led Animal Place to  contact dozens of coconut companies  to quiz them on how they treated their monkeys.

“In some regions of the world, pig-tailed macaques are intentionally bred and trained – often with punishment – to harvest coconuts,”  the farm’s Web site read . “The monkeys are always tethered to their ‘handler’ and are not permitted to eat the coconuts they collect. No statistics exist detailing exactly how many monkeys are bred and used for this purpose.” "


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Perrie Halpern R.A.
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link   Perrie Halpern R.A.    10 years ago

test

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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link   1stwarrior  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A.   10 years ago

Multiple choice or 50/50 guess?

 
 
 
Jerry Verlinger
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link   Jerry Verlinger  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A.   10 years ago

test

Did it pass?

 
 
 
Cerenkov
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link   Cerenkov    10 years ago

It's fun until the ape uprising. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
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link   1stwarrior  replied to  Cerenkov   10 years ago

Caesar's coming back?

 
 
 
Cerenkov
Professor Silent
link   Cerenkov  replied to  1stwarrior   10 years ago

So I fear. Bearing a coconut of war.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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link   seeder  JohnRussell    10 years ago

Almost every comment on this thread has little to do with the seeded article.

Is this the new Newstalkers ?

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
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link   Bob Nelson    10 years ago

I missed this article when it was posted. 

If the status of these apes is "murky"... what's the appropriate word for the millions of human beings who toil in Hellish conditions? 

If we should feel bad for these apes, how should we feel about those human beings? 

Oh, let's not think about them at all! Let's make light of the article. Let's do whatever we must to avoid thinking about our passive complicity. 

 

 
 

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