Why is there so much hate on NewsTalkers??? Don't you like ANYONE?????
Gays, muslims, blacks, hispanics, repubs, dems, libs, convers, tea-partiers, racists, Trump haters - my gosh, are those the only topics you folks know or look for? Why don't you look for some positive stuff instead of always negative? Funnier yet, why hasn't someone posted the story about the Branson High School students who went on a trip to China, did lots of drinking, the school suspended them, and they ARE SUIING the school - because the chaparones didn't stop them from drinking? That is the typical story posted here or - Trump doesn't like something/body - like that is going to cause the world to end in the next 45 seconds??? The right wing is violent??? The tea-partiers are illiterate???? The Dems are stupid???? I responded to a Tea Partier - BFD????? The polls say - - - - -?????? Can you believe Obama's still in office????
C'Mon folks - why do you hate so much? Why do you think we "deserve" to hear your loathing and hate filled tirades??
Let's get a little more serious. NT is not for bashing, ridiculing, slamming, debasing folks - it is intended as a medium for a healthy, meaningful discussion about topics - not the bullsh!t containing gay bashing, muslim jokes, black suppression, etc.. If that is all you can talk about, why did you even join NT?
Let's try being a little more nice to other posters and, instead of calling them a piece of sh!t, find something positive in their comment and remark on that.
Better yet - follow the CoC - less nastiness, testiness, testosterones, shield banging, chest banging - much more enjoyable comments and discussions.
OR - maybe NT wants it your way just to see how far some of you will go to debase your fellow human. That's an interesting concept.
Nah - no way.
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Why are we starting to slide back?????
Why are we starting to slide back?????
I post one or more photo/digital art articles every day … on a "high-activity" article, I might get 10 or more comments … some of them my own.
I understand that on a site named "The NewsTalkers," we're going to get mostly news-related articles and comments … logical … expected. But many of the "news" articles are not news … they're either editorials/opinions, misrepresentations or outright falsehoods.
To ignore these would be to allow misinformation to stand unchallenged … to challenge/rebut them more often than not brings the very …
"bashing, ridiculing, slamming, debasing" …
… you rightly decry and repudiate.
All of the above taken together is why …
There So Much Hate On NewsTalkers
As for …
Don't You Like ANYONE?????
I debate/disagree regularly with a number of NT members … I consider some of them friends.
There are others who will not allow respect and friendship to exist between themselves and any with whom they disagree politically/ideologically. And some can't refrain from tossing in an insult … if not making an insult the bulk or total of their commentary.
Hopefully I've answered your question, 1stwarrior.
Yup - well indeed.
Sometimes it does appear that there are some who care not for a discussion so much as looking for retaliation/head-butting/"lemme git in yore face" confrontation. Why is that so important to them?
Thanks for your response A. Mac. - thanks.
But many of the "news" articles are not news
I agree with this, there's almost no actual news discussed on this site.
I have posted , in 4 years, probably hundreds of articles that are not about politics. Very few of them draw much of a response. It is then not worth the trouble to find them and copy and paste them. I posted an article a couple weeks ago about the death of Natalie Cole, and some of the comments, as few as there were, were not even about her.
There are people on NT, and every such forum to be fair, who use the topics as a means for showing how clever they are, or think they are. I don't have much interest in posting seeds so people can go off topic with pointless snark.
I still do it, but not as much.
And I apologize regarding your Natalie Cole thread. I also posted one as I didn't see anyone else doing so. Didn't mean to duplicate.
Thank you for your comment - makes perfect sense.
It's a lack of respect for freedom. Once you embrace others freedom to speak their minds all hate fades away and you are filled with the love of freedom of speech. All hate is self generated.
Cause and effect?
1st,
The problem is the polarization of this nation. The right and the left dominate the discussion, which leaves out the bulk of Americans. 43% now identify as independent according the latest Gallup Poll. Where are they? Has disgust just driven them out of the discussion all together? Could our lousy two party system done that? Meet the new boss, same as the old boss?
Many independents are to the "right" or "left" of the Republicans or Democrats, they are not all moderates.
I don't think the two party system is as much at fault for our problems as is the truth that our elected representatives do not vote their conscience on an issue by issue basis, but rather vote a party line or according to the wishes of lobbyists.
We have to have people run for office who will vote their conscience again.
So, John, would you say that Citizen's decision by the court has pretty much been founded as truth and politicians should now wear jump suits with their sponsor's names on them?
John,
You are wrong. Let me show you:
What is it that you think I am wrong about ?
Many independents are to the "right" or "left" of the Republicans or Democrats, they are not all moderates.
Most independents are either left leaning republicans or right leaning democrats. In other words, centrists.
So, 45% of Independents lean Dem and 42% lean Repub??
Well, I didn't say all independents are to the right or left of the major parties, I said many of them are. By the numbers in your graph , about 30% of independents (13% of all voters) don't 'lean' liberal or conservative. So what are they ? Anarchists ? Socialists? Moderates ? lol
Anyway, someone who is "libertarian" could be an independent in terms of party, and "lean" either right or left. But generally, I don't think most people would describe libertarians as "moderates".
Libertarians are people whose "thinking" can always fit on a bumper-sticker.
I don't see those in the middle any more tolerant of the views of the far left and right. They are often the ones that hate free speech the most or at least do the most complaining about it. They have a hard time accepting views that fall outside of their narrow middle of the road myopic view. They suffer from tunnel vision.
Dean - are you saying that "Moderates" have no view?
No, I'm saying they are often intolerant of the views that fall outside their narrow middle of the road. The hate comes from intolerance.
I'm an independent Dean, and I think I am very tolerant of other's views. I don't have to agree with them, but I am always willing to have a discussion and maybe learn a thing or two (or the other way around). I have been a member of independent/3rd party groups before and they, by the very nature of the make up of the group, have to be tolerant.
I'll echo what Perrie said. I'm also an Independent and I try really really hard to be accepting of views from others even if I don't agree. But sometimes it can be hard to practice and I will forget myself.
What I've noticed lately Dean is most of the Repub/Dems don't really have "standings" on the party platforms. They are wavering and argue around the issue versus for/against the issue.
Perrie - I'm a "for the person, not the party" type voter hence I prefer to hear a wide variety of discussion giving me more options/information to base my decisions on.
As you, and others have mentioned, the two "sides" dump and dump and dump so verbally and, as John sez, so non-factually, that folks, IMHO, are turning them all off because they are getting sick and tired of hearing/reading all the bullshit that's not true or pertinent.
Ask any politician a simple question - and they will never answer it. Ask them a complex question (thanks A. Mac for that term) and you'll hear tons of explanations of why the world is screwed up - but never address the question or anything close to the question.
Do you think that maybe some/a few of SCOTUS's decisions have scared folks away (Hobby/Lobby, Citizens, etc.)?
Do you think that maybe some/a few of SCOTUS's decisions have scared folks away (Hobby/Lobby, Citizens, etc.)?
Sure do! I think they have taken away the voice of the average American citizen. I don't care how you dance around it, a corporation is not an individual, they are an entity, and that is a whole different can of beans.
Based on recent decisions (since '96), SCOTUS has been ruling more and more in favor of corporations - which is not a good thing since they violate the laws/rules/regulations most.
Why is there so much hate on NewsTalkers??? Don't you like ANYONE?????
I like you 1st! And I like Perrie. Mostly because I like redheads.
I think Perrie is correct. NT, although small, does have a pretty good sampling of the nation. And this isn't an NT problem, it's a national phenomenon.
And a redheaded Indian - donchano.
You both may be right - but, I think what is striking me lately is the strong animosity that is showing up - the animosity of striking out at individual members vice ideas/discussions of the members. Where did that start coming from and why is it increasing?