Did you even bother to watch the video of the question being asked? As the reporter SHOUTS her question, without being acknowledged, Trump is already saying something else. What you get is the end of what he is saying as being No, just as she finishes the question. So, frankly, I think it is a cheap shot by the media who jumped on his last word and did not go back to see what exactly he was saying. By the way, I saw the video on Inside Edition, which is not a Conservative show.
Did you even bother to watch the video of the question being asked?
I've seen it several times and it's obvious he was answering her question. He was not "mid-sentence" as you claim, he was directly replying to her question.
He said "thank you" several times as she is yelling her question, then as she ends her question he says "No." I give him the benefit of the doubt and he meant to say "No more questions." and ended up unconsciously stopping after he said "No."
One today to clarify yesterday's comments then another one tomorrow to clarify today's comments and then Sarah Sanders will make one late Friday afternoon to make sure that y'all understand what trump meant
Lookee here. Once and for all, Trump is not the problem. Those that voted for him and those in the government that enable him are the problem.
Russia is making its move under the guidance of The Putin Regime. Russia's plundered treasury is being used to seek out and fund Quislings in The Western Democracies. If this action is not rooted out, destroyed...…..Putin will be successful. It is time to make a choice.
One example: Rohrabacher must be audited, investigated. And there are others. Even the NRA may be complicit. These 'things' must be exposed for what they are.
Will not disagree with that. Had Hitler been assassinated or revealed to be a 'puffy grabber' in 1930 the movement would not have stopped. The Versailles Treaty was the planted seed---and it sprouted.
Had Hitler been assassinated or revealed to be a 'puffy grabber' in 1930 the movement would not have stopped
That is like saying that if your aunt had been born with balls she would have been your uncle. In any case Germany in the 20's and 30's was in such a shape that there would just have been another that would have taken his place. In many ways we were lucky that Hitler was in charge. His actions especially as the war got longer were only assisting the allies in his defeat.
So many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in Helsinki. Putin and I discussed many important subjects at our earlier meeting. We got along well which truly bothered many haters who wanted to see a boxing match. Big results will come!
I live in America, and we have never had one here.
It's a slick way that some NT members use to skirt our CoC because calling Trump a Nazi is a definite CoC violation. I've reported some who've done the same, but mods ignored it.
I think that they can call anyone a Nazi and it wouldn't be a violation.
In the meantime, I am just going to assume anyone who claims to have a Fuhrer isn't an American, since we have never had one here, and discount anything they have to say on any topic since I don't care much what foreigners think of us.
It's a slick way that some NT members use to skirt our CoC because calling Trump a Nazi is a definite CoC violation. I've reported some who've done the same, but mods ignored it.
The truth certainly seems to bother some right wingers but it's perfectly fine under NT's bylaws.
In the meantime, I am just going to assume anyone who claims to have a Fuhrer isn't an American, since we have never had one here, and discount anything they have to say on any topic since I don't care much what foreigners think of us.
well the poster in question does live in the US from what they have said previously, of course i've heard phrases like "dictator" applied to our previous president (including questioning his birthplace and citizenship, yet nary a complaint from the conservative minded since they were against him for various reasons)
he must live in a different America than the rest of us then.
We have never had a Fuhrer here.
And if you can find even a SINGLE instance of me calling Obama or any other President a dictator, I will give myself a month's suspension!
i don't ever remember stating that you personally called Obama a dictator... could you help me out and post where i stated that please ? thanks and i'm pretty sure he's in the USA - maybe you don't know all the states ? i know.. you are enamored with the President, but not everyone feels as smitten as you do with him..
But what was the point of your post including the line " of course I've heard phrases like "dictator" applied to our previous president (including questioning his birthplace and citizenship, yet nary a complaint from the conservative minded since they were against him for various reasons)" if not to insinuate I have said it?
I don't know about everyone else in the world, but here in America, we have Presidents, not dictators or Fuhrers.
If you are American, Trump is your President, like it or not.
But what was the point of your post including the line " of course I've heard phrases like "dictator" applied to our previous president (including questioning his birthplace and citizenship, yet nary a complaint from the conservative minded since they were against him for various reasons)" if not to insinuate I have said it?
wait... you took that personally ? well i guess that's on you then, huh ? it's not my responsibility to ensure you don't take my comments personally and get your sensitive feelings hurt , is it ?
I don't know about everyone else in the world, but here in America, we have Presidents, not dictators or Fuhrers.
in theory we do - of course actions from Presidents ( past and present ) may seemingly suggest otherwise to some people... i remember a popular conspiracy theory that Obama was going to declare martial law and never hold another election again so he could remain ruler of the USA ... isn't that funny ? Gosh, after 8 years of constant criticism of Obama and conspiracy theories abound - you find it odd and are upset that so many people do the same to Trump ?
If you are American, Trump is your President, like it or not.
Trump is President of the USA - that is correct . do you think he represents the interest of the people as a whole ? Do you think he represents the country well ?
You can keep your condescension to yourself--I certainly don't need nor want it.
Here's what I see as the difference between us:
I can acknowledge and admit that some people had some really, really, really stupid ides regarding Obama, from his birthplace to the crap about suspending elections and declaring martial law.
What I don't see from you is acknowledgment that some stories about Trump are just as stupid.
including any involving him being a dictator or Fuhrer.
'wait... you took that personally ? well i guess that's on you then, huh ? it's not my responsibility to ensure you don't take my comments personally and get your sensitive feelings hurt, is it ?'
You can keep your condescension to yourself--I certainly don't need nor want it.
that's sound advice - and from comments i have seen, you should take it to heart .
Here's what I see as the difference between us:
I can acknowledge and admit that some people had some really, really, really stupid ides regarding Obama, from his birthplace to the crap about suspending elections and declaring martial law.
congratulations !
What I don't see from you is acknowledgment that some stories about Trump are just as stupid.
oh some of the stories are completely ridiculous - i'm pretty sure i've stated things of that nature before . I won't spend my time defending a president ( either R or D ) when they act stupid or do stupid things ( especially if it's against our own country ) , it's largely why i spend most of my time not defending our current president - but that's the difference between you and I
including any involving him being a dictator or Fuhrer.
some people view his actions as seemingly to be a dictator or Fuhrer - maybe you should ask them why .
(i noticed you dodged a couple questions .... very interesting but not surprising )
some people view his actions as seemingly to be a dictator or Fuhrer - maybe you should ask them why.
hmmm... dismissing the opposing point of view instead of actively trying to work with them and resolve issues ..... yea, that seems to be a strategy that always works , right ?
kind of hard to "work" with folks who do nothing but whine and snipe.
The table is always open if they ever can stop whining long enough to sit down at it.
hey look at that - it's what the left and "liberals" were saying for 8 straight years.... i guess the butt hurt cream will just keep getting passed from one side to the other huh ? all about sweet revenge, right ?
oh, so it doesn't apply to Republicans ? that sounds like great material for a comedy open mic night. I hope you have a wonderful day as well - i almost always have a great day
gee, most normal people know that when you stretch out that word in that nature - it's meant as sarcasm which would mean logically you are stating it doesn't apply to Republicans - have a great time at comedy open mic night and i hope your performance goes wellHope this helps you with your conversation skills in the future !
So many people at the higher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in Helsinki
To further clarify, Trump states that he miss-spoke 2 letters. What he meant to say (which should have been obvious) is:
So many people at the unhigher ends of intelligence loved my press conference performance in Helsinki, and maybe other unhigher intelligence people liked it too. There are a lot of unhigher intelligence people out there, I'm just saying.
Yep... Translation: "If you didn't like me meeting with pootin, you're a big dum dum head!!!". Trump must have chronic neck pain from bending over to suck his own 3 inch dick all the time.
What the media and the Democrats aren’t really telling you about election meddling (except on rare occasions like this NY Times article quickly ignored and forgotten). And this is why informed citizens agree with President Trump that our Intelligence agencies and past Administrations are dishonest about this subject
“If you ask an intelligence officer, did the Russians break the rules or do something bizarre, the answer is no, not at all,” said Steven L. Hall, who retired in 2015 after 30 years at the C.I.A., where he was the chief of Russian operations. The United States “absolutely” has carried out such election influence operations historically, he said, “and I hope we keep doing it.”
Loch K. Johnson, the dean of American intelligence scholars, who began his career in the 1970s investigating the C.I.A. as a staff member of the Senate’s Church Committee, says Russia’s 2016 operation was simply the cyber-age version of standard United States practice for decades, whenever American officials were worried about a foreign vote.
“We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” said Mr. Johnson, now at the University of Georgia. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.”
A Carnegie Mellon scholar, Dov H. Levin, has scoured the historical record for both overt and covert election influence operations. He found 81 by the United States and 36 by the Soviet Union or Russia between 1946 and 2000, though the Russian count is undoubtedly incomplete.
“I’m not in any way justifying what the Russians did in 2016,” Mr. Levin said. “It was completely wrong of Vladimir Putin to intervene in this way. That said, the methods they used in this election were the digital version of methods used both by the United States and Russia for decades: breaking into party headquarters, recruiting secretaries, placing informants in a party, giving information or disinformation to newspapers.”
His findings underscore how routine election meddling by the United States — sometimes covert and sometimes quite open — has been.”
Ok righties, I guess we have to accept that you will only nominate moronic assholes for president, but can you at least try to give us a moronic asshole who is not a total pussy to boot?
Nope. Sorry to bust your Abuela bubble Tex, but, it has nothing to do with her. Trump lead everyone to think he was man enough for the job in the WH, and come to find out, he has to depend on Putin for his balls as he obviously didn't have any at their meeting and had to thank Putin for gifting him one. Although Trump didn't put it to good use. Sort of pathetic, eh?
In the meantime, the left declares Trump a traitor, but can not produce any evidence of it.
Don't worry, that evidence is being gathered and will be presented soon. The press conference made it pretty clear to everyone except those who choose not to see.
you dont need to wait. Just use the google thing. You'll find what you need...psst stay off right wing sites. Look for moderate or non biased sites. You can also find a listing of that using google.
Just use the google thing. You'll find what you need...psst stay off right wing sites.
It would be nice if Google decided to block all the alt-right fake news like Breitbart, RT, Sputnik, Stormfront and Fox. They can all go create their own search engine that will only find the deplorable websites, they can call it "Ask Jim Bob".
And please remember what you CONSIDER treason is FAR different than PROVING treason
That is for the people and courts to decide. But, it won't take much to prove it. Trump has done it for them with his own actions and words. That you choose to deny it does not mitigate Trump's own actions and the truth.
Y'all have put all your eggs in Mueller's basket, and anything LESS than impeachment and conviction will be hilarious!
No. I am not as convinced as my more liberal friends that Meuller is going to be non partisan. It could very well turn out to be that he finds nothing. If he does GREAT, but since he has already been successful in indictments and convictions on the matter, I'm fairly sure he will find some people in trumps orbit that did knowingly collude. It is possible that some may have been unwittingly used by Putin.
It isn't good news to have a presidential candidate colluding with a foreign government.
See the thing is, if trump is really innocent, then he and the rest of his supporters should not be afraid of the results. They act like it's going to be an unfavorable outcome for trump.
I'll just pretend like you that your post 7.1.16 doesn't exist.
7.1.16 Fireryone replied to Landshark @7.1.14 38 minutes ago A lot of evidence has been put out already. You just seem to choose not to look at it. https://www.vox.com/2018/5/23/17384096/mueller-investigation-poll
Merely YOUR perception. Not everyone believes as you do.
Really? Do tell.
It's my perception that trump acts guilty as hell. A lot of people agree.
It's my perception that Meuller got convictions? That is a fact.
It's my perception that if Meuller can show trump was an unwitting participant, that's an acceptable outcome. If he is innocent and others in his campaign did it behind his back, shouldn't he want to get to the bottom of it?
It is my perception that Meuller needs to be able to do his job even if it takes 4 years.
Trump has done it for them with his own actions and words.
Could you imagine how the right wing would have exploded in outrage if Obama had said during a rally in his election against Romney "Russia, if you're listening, maybe you can find some dirt on Mitt Romney. I'm sure our media would reward you mightily." and then it turned out the Russians did actually illegally hack the GOP emails and released private emails showing the sausage making of a political campaign leading to the inevitable loss. If it had even turned out to be some foreign adversary who had filmed Romney at the private campaign event where he talked about the "47% who won't vote" for him anyway because they're "victims" and "dependent on the government" the right wing would have lost their minds. But when their candidate asks the Russians for dirt on their opponent and get it, it's all about what dirt was found, they have no problem getting in bed with a foreign adversary as long as they believe they are getting what they want.
The LINK you provided is an OPINION piece from a left-leaning site.
No it is a poll, but the discussion contains the list of the convictions and indictments. If you don't like the list then prove it wrong. You can't because you know that it is factual.
You don't pay attention. She and her campaign called herself that. If it is good enough for her and her campaign, I am quite content in referring to her as she wanted.
Orange conman traitor in chief is "considering" this.....dance puppet, dance.
The firestorm over President Donald Trump's summit with Vladimir Putin has broadened to include the revelation that Trump is open to allowing Russian investigators to grill American citizens, including former U.S. ambassador Michael McFaul.
On the flip side it's very interesting that Trump didn't ask Putin to extradite the Russians who have been charged by Trump's DoJ with rigging the 2016 election to help Trump.
Since Putin claims that the "Russian state" wasn't involved, then surely he'll be just as interested as Trump in seeing justice done........
'On the flip side it's very interesting that Trump didn't ask Putin to extradite the Russians who have been charged by Trump's DoJ with rigging the 2016 election to help Trump.
Since Putin claims that the "Russian state" wasn't involved, then surely he'll be just as interested as Trump in seeing justice done........'
Putin offered to help in the investigation:
'Putin said he’d allow members of Mueller’s team into Russia only if the US allowed him to reciprocate — to allow Russian operatives into the US. Specifically, Putin mentioned allegations against financier and vocal Putin critic Bill Browder — whom he accused of funneling (along with his associates) $400 million in donations to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
In other words, this is Putin’s “interesting idea” to address exhaustively documented allegations that employees of the Russian government tried to interfere in the 2016 presidential campaign by hacking into, and publishing, private emails from one major party in the campaign:
Have Russian government officials ask other Russian government officials if the Russian government told them to commit a crime.
Let US officials watch Russian officials ask other Russian officials if the Russian government told them to commit a crime.
Send Russian officials into the US to investigate allegations against domestic critics of Vladimir Putin.
But if Putin offered a quid pro quo, Trump appears to have heard only a favor. He later praised Putin for his willingness in cooperating in the investigation into his own government:
What he did is an incredible offer. He offered to have the people working on the case come and work with their investigators with respect to the 12 people. I think that’s an incredible offer.
It is “incredible” — in that it is extremely hard to believe that a government whose employees are being investigatedby a foreign country is going to participate, in good faith, in that investigation while denying out of hand that any wrongdoing took place. But Trump appears to believe just that.'
Bloomberg is now reporting that part of their private meeting involves Putin & Trump conspiring on how to hand over eastern Ukraine to Russia (ie in addition to Crimea).
Tacit approval, then look the other way, go all out pushing Russian's agenda and propaganda like he does today, only more. I'm sure there are other ways as well. Are you perplexed at why people are upset that Trump is on Putin's Russia page and not the US? Why don't you have a problem with that?
anti-American stance so many have in regards to our President.
NOBODY has an anti-American stance as yuuuuggggeee as Trump himself. The asshole dissed the entire country in Helsinki when he let Putin run the show and criticized the USA as he refused to criticize Putin personally, the guy who ordered this breach of our security. Don't try to ignore the traitor in the room while you try to project his anti-American words and deeds to liberals. Trump is the most anti-American president in our history, he is taking orders from and supporting Putin and Russia over the USA. Just stop. I contend Trump and most of the GOP have taken Russia's POV and side here, it is the rest of us who are the patriots trying to advocate for the USA instead of being a pussy and letting Putin lead the world. He's got Trump by his tiny balls.
He can't admit it because Trump is up to his eyeballs in it. He is conspiring with the enemy, period. The treasonous piece of shit even wants to hand over the ambassador to Putin! Un-fucking-believable.
If Trump thinks there were massive protests before, he hasn't seen anything yet when Putin comes to the WH this fall. Now that Trump has acknowledged that Putin did indeed meddle, imo that makes him an enemy of the people and for Putin to step foot in the WH is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.
S E E D E D C O N T E N T
Trump's credibility hits a new low (if that's even possible....???)
Did you even bother to watch the video of the question being asked? As the reporter SHOUTS her question, without being acknowledged, Trump is already saying something else. What you get is the end of what he is saying as being No, just as she finishes the question. So, frankly, I think it is a cheap shot by the media who jumped on his last word and did not go back to see what exactly he was saying. By the way, I saw the video on Inside Edition, which is not a Conservative show.
I've seen it several times and it's obvious he was answering her question. He was not "mid-sentence" as you claim, he was directly replying to her question.
He said "thank you" several times as she is yelling her question, then as she ends her question he says "No." I give him the benefit of the doubt and he meant to say "No more questions." and ended up unconsciously stopping after he said "No."
Trump just :clarified" his previous "clarification".
How many more "clarifications" is our "Surrender Monkey in Chief" going to make....???
One today to clarify yesterday's comments then another one tomorrow to clarify today's comments and then Sarah Sanders will make one late Friday afternoon to make sure that y'all understand what trump meant
Lookee here. Once and for all, Trump is not the problem. Those that voted for him and those in the government that enable him are the problem.
Russia is making its move under the guidance of The Putin Regime. Russia's plundered treasury is being used to seek out and fund Quislings in The Western Democracies. If this action is not rooted out, destroyed...…..Putin will be successful. It is time to make a choice.
One example: Rohrabacher must be audited, investigated. And there are others. Even the NRA may be complicit. These 'things' must be exposed for what they are.
And neither was Hitler.....
Will not disagree with that. Had Hitler been assassinated or revealed to be a 'puffy grabber' in 1930 the movement would not have stopped. The Versailles Treaty was the planted seed---and it sprouted.
That is like saying that if your aunt had been born with balls she would have been your uncle. In any case Germany in the 20's and 30's was in such a shape that there would just have been another that would have taken his place. In many ways we were lucky that Hitler was in charge. His actions especially as the war got longer were only assisting the allies in his defeat.
Our Fuhrer tweeted this today:
Sure...they aren't. They've probably already rigged it in the GOPs favor.
State investigates Russian investor's ties to Maryland elections software
Any old time you can provide real evidence, feel free to do so.
Otherwise, all you have is speculation an innuendo.
Its all around you all you need to do is research.
Then that should make it all the easier for you to provide.
It is easy for me to provide links. I want to see if you can do your own research, or do you need me to hold your hand?
it's okay if you can't.
I understand completely--I have run into that a number of times here.
You admit you won't go look for yourself. I suspected there was a lack of intellectual curiosity.
Good day.
I admitted nothing, as you well know.
Should we just skip the chase and have you PROVE what you claim now?
because I know you can;t
LOL, you've been asking for days. Dude prove it wrong or stop talking to me.
LOL, DUDE.
You have done nothing but snipe and deflect instead of proving your statements.
That's okay, I didn't expect much, and thus am rarely disappointed.
That is one of the few true things Trump admitted. He just forgot to say Russian intelligence.
Where do you live that you have a Fuhrer?
I live in America, and we have never had one here.
It's a slick way that some NT members use to skirt our CoC because calling Trump a Nazi is a definite CoC violation. I've reported some who've done the same, but mods ignored it.
I think that they can call anyone a Nazi and it wouldn't be a violation.
In the meantime, I am just going to assume anyone who claims to have a Fuhrer isn't an American, since we have never had one here, and discount anything they have to say on any topic since I don't care much what foreigners think of us.
The truth certainly seems to bother some right wingers but it's perfectly fine under NT's bylaws.
Perhaps you should explain this "truth" to which you refer.
well the poster in question does live in the US from what they have said previously, of course i've heard phrases like "dictator" applied to our previous president (including questioning his birthplace and citizenship, yet nary a complaint from the conservative minded since they were against him for various reasons)
he must live in a different America than the rest of us then.
We have never had a Fuhrer here.
And if you can find even a SINGLE instance of me calling Obama or any other President a dictator, I will give myself a month's suspension!
i don't ever remember stating that you personally called Obama a dictator... could you help me out and post where i stated that please ? thanks
and i'm pretty sure he's in the USA - maybe you don't know all the states ? i know.. you are enamored with the President, but not everyone feels as smitten as you do with him..
I didn't say you said it.
wait... you took that personally ? well i guess that's on you then, huh ? it's not my responsibility to ensure you don't take my comments personally and get your sensitive feelings hurt , is it ?
in theory we do - of course actions from Presidents ( past and present ) may seemingly suggest otherwise to some people... i remember a popular conspiracy theory that Obama was going to declare martial law and never hold another election again so he could remain ruler of the USA ... isn't that funny ?
Gosh, after 8 years of constant criticism of Obama and conspiracy theories abound - you find it odd and are upset that so many people do the same to Trump ? 
Trump is President of the USA - that is correct . do you think he represents the interest of the people as a whole ? Do you think he represents the country well ?
You can keep your condescension to yourself--I certainly don't need nor want it.
Here's what I see as the difference between us:
I can acknowledge and admit that some people had some really, really, really stupid ides regarding Obama, from his birthplace to the crap about suspending elections and declaring martial law.
What I don't see from you is acknowledgment that some stories about Trump are just as stupid.
including any involving him being a dictator or Fuhrer.
Yet you do fully deserve it.
Ah, not getting enough attention at home?
that's sound advice - and from comments i have seen, you should take it to heart .
congratulations !
oh some of the stories are completely ridiculous - i'm pretty sure i've stated things of that nature before . I won't spend my time defending a president ( either R or D ) when they act stupid or do stupid things ( especially if it's against our own country ) , it's largely why i spend most of my time not defending our current president - but that's the difference between you and I
some people view his actions as seemingly to be a dictator or Fuhrer - maybe you should ask them why .
(i noticed you dodged a couple questions .... very interesting but not surprising )
Some people are idiots.
oh i completely agree with that
Yeah--THESE people:
Me too, me too.
And some people can't wait to prove it daily.
yes very true - and for some reason, some people feel the need to prove it repeatedly throughout the day too
I see.
hmmm... dismissing the opposing point of view instead of actively trying to work with them and resolve issues ..... yea, that seems to be a strategy that always works , right ?
maybe one day they'll learn ? if not, it always provides endless hours of free amusement
kind of hard to "work" with folks who do nothing but whine and snipe.
The table is always open if they ever can stop whining long enough to sit down at it.
hey look at that - it's what the left and "liberals" were saying for 8 straight years.... i guess the butt hurt cream will just keep getting passed from one side to the other huh ? all about sweet revenge, right ?
Really?
Hmmm...not QUITE!
I seem to remember a certain President telling the GOP that they could ride, but they had to sit in the back.
I'm not really worried--ain't a chance in hell Democrats will ever stop whining.
haven't done it for the last 30 years at least.
oh i remember that... i also remember these ( among others ):
do you ?
the same applies to Republicans as well - i can acknowledge that , that's the difference between you and I
R-I-g-h-t.
You have a real nice day now, y'hear?
oh, so it doesn't apply to Republicans ? that sounds like great material for a comedy open mic night. I hope you have a wonderful day as well - i almost always have a great day
Once again, words never written by me.
Maybe ask someone who actually wrote those words?
hope that helps you!
gee, most normal people know that when you stretch out that word in that nature - it's meant as sarcasm which would mean logically you are stating it doesn't apply to Republicans - have a great time at comedy open mic night and i hope your performance goes well
Hope this helps you with your conversation skills in the future ! 
I will leave that for you to figure out all on your own.
Have fun trying!
it's already been done - i'm sorry that you aren't the enigma you view yourself to be - try harder and... Have fun trying !
So true, so very, very true.
To further clarify, Trump states that he miss-spoke 2 letters. What he meant to say (which should have been obvious) is:
very clever, Sir
Yep... Translation: "If you didn't like me meeting with pootin, you're a big dum dum head!!!". Trump must have chronic neck pain from bending over to suck his own 3 inch dick all the time.
What is up with your seemingly endless obsession with Trump's dick and sucking it?
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What the media and the Democrats aren’t really telling you about election meddling (except on rare occasions like this NY Times article quickly ignored and forgotten). And this is why informed citizens agree with President Trump that our Intelligence agencies and past Administrations are dishonest about this subject
“If you ask an intelligence officer, did the Russians break the rules or do something bizarre, the answer is no, not at all,” said Steven L. Hall, who retired in 2015 after 30 years at the C.I.A., where he was the chief of Russian operations. The United States “absolutely” has carried out such election influence operations historically, he said, “and I hope we keep doing it.”
Loch K. Johnson, the dean of American intelligence scholars, who began his career in the 1970s investigating the C.I.A. as a staff member of the Senate’s Church Committee, says Russia’s 2016 operation was simply the cyber-age version of standard United States practice for decades, whenever American officials were worried about a foreign vote.
“We’ve been doing this kind of thing since the C.I.A. was created in 1947,” said Mr. Johnson, now at the University of Georgia. “We’ve used posters, pamphlets, mailers, banners — you name it. We’ve planted false information in foreign newspapers. We’ve used what the British call ‘King George’s cavalry’: suitcases of cash.”
A Carnegie Mellon scholar, Dov H. Levin, has scoured the historical record for both overt and covert election influence operations. He found 81 by the United States and 36 by the Soviet Union or Russia between 1946 and 2000, though the Russian count is undoubtedly incomplete.
“I’m not in any way justifying what the Russians did in 2016,” Mr. Levin said. “It was completely wrong of Vladimir Putin to intervene in this way. That said, the methods they used in this election were the digital version of methods used both by the United States and Russia for decades: breaking into party headquarters, recruiting secretaries, placing informants in a party, giving information or disinformation to newspapers.”
His findings underscore how routine election meddling by the United States — sometimes covert and sometimes quite open — has been.”
I think it's great that you carry water for Putin. Keep it up Larry!
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I think it is great you fail to recognize reality!
Are you sure it's just water? I thought he was cleaning Trump's toilet.
Ok righties, I guess we have to accept that you will only nominate moronic assholes for president, but can you at least try to give us a moronic asshole who is not a total pussy to boot?
Will lefties promise to nominate someone who can beat a moronic pussy?
Or are they going to stick with the status quo?
They didn't know they they were up against a moronic pussy. They thought they were up against a man. Their mistake.
Ah!
There it is.
What is that--#365 on the list of "Reasons Why Our Dear Abuela Lost"?
Or is that #366 now?
Nope. Sorry to bust your Abuela bubble Tex, but, it has nothing to do with her. Trump lead everyone to think he was man enough for the job in the WH, and come to find out, he has to depend on Putin for his balls as he obviously didn't have any at their meeting and had to thank Putin for gifting him one. Although Trump didn't put it to good use. Sort of pathetic, eh?
Oh they have to have more than that by now. Excuses for her losing breed faster than rabbits.
But, not near as fast or as many as the endless and empty excuses for the traitorous acts by Trump's party first minions.
Ah.
But we are dealing in facts while Abuela-lovers are dealing in allegations and innuendo.
Funny how some just cannot leave Clinton alone. Seems they have a hard on for her.
Oh please do show your facts. So far all I've seen are the right's allegations and innuendos with nothing valid to back them up.
You mean the guy you voted for?
The fact is Abuela lost. I really can't make it any simpler for you.
And she and her fan club has produced reason (excuse) after reason WHY she lost.
In the meantime, the left declares Trump a traitor, but can not produce any evidence of it.
And please remember what you CONSIDER treason is FAR different than PROVING treason.
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Don't worry, that evidence is being gathered and will be presented soon. The press conference made it pretty clear to everyone except those who choose not to see.
yeah, yeah, so I have heard.
Still waiting...…………...YAWN!
you dont need to wait. Just use the google thing. You'll find what you need...psst stay off right wing sites. Look for moderate or non biased sites. You can also find a listing of that using google.
A lot of evidence has been put out already. You just seem to choose not to look at it.
Y'all have put all your eggs in Mueller's basket, and anything LESS than impeachment and conviction will be hilarious!
It would be nice if Google decided to block all the alt-right fake news like Breitbart, RT, Sputnik, Stormfront and Fox. They can all go create their own search engine that will only find the deplorable websites, they can call it "Ask Jim Bob".
You might not want to link an opinion piece from a leftwing site as a source.
Or you might, and I will choose to laugh at it.
I didn't provide the link for you. You need to do your own work. Prove to me that I'm wrong.
That is for the people and courts to decide. But, it won't take much to prove it. Trump has done it for them with his own actions and words. That you choose to deny it does not mitigate Trump's own actions and the truth.
So continue to believe in fairy tales.
No. I am not as convinced as my more liberal friends that Meuller is going to be non partisan. It could very well turn out to be that he finds nothing. If he does GREAT, but since he has already been successful in indictments and convictions on the matter, I'm fairly sure he will find some people in trumps orbit that did knowingly collude. It is possible that some may have been unwittingly used by Putin.
It isn't good news to have a presidential candidate colluding with a foreign government.
See the thing is, if trump is really innocent, then he and the rest of his supporters should not be afraid of the results. They act like it's going to be an unfavorable outcome for trump.
What is "fascist" about a private company choosing not to support and disseminate racist propaganda, lies, hate and white supremacy?
okay, I am game!
I'll just pretend like you that your post 7.1.16 doesn't exist.
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Merely YOUR perception. Not everyone believes as you do.
seems you are not game, since you've made no effort to provide links proving me wrong.
Like you and treason?
LMAO!
Read it again. Do you need me to explain my post in further detail?
Really? Do tell.
It's my perception that trump acts guilty as hell. A lot of people agree.
It's my perception that Meuller got convictions? That is a fact.
It's my perception that if Meuller can show trump was an unwitting participant, that's an acceptable outcome. If he is innocent and others in his campaign did it behind his back, shouldn't he want to get to the bottom of it?
It is my perception that Meuller needs to be able to do his job even if it takes 4 years.
Is Mueller not doing his job currently?
Could you imagine how the right wing would have exploded in outrage if Obama had said during a rally in his election against Romney "Russia, if you're listening, maybe you can find some dirt on Mitt Romney. I'm sure our media would reward you mightily." and then it turned out the Russians did actually illegally hack the GOP emails and released private emails showing the sausage making of a political campaign leading to the inevitable loss. If it had even turned out to be some foreign adversary who had filmed Romney at the private campaign event where he talked about the "47% who won't vote" for him anyway because they're "victims" and "dependent on the government" the right wing would have lost their minds. But when their candidate asks the Russians for dirt on their opponent and get it, it's all about what dirt was found, they have no problem getting in bed with a foreign adversary as long as they believe they are getting what they want.
He never does.
Yes he is doing his job now. The question is will the GOP be successful in undermining him or getting him removed.
You know they want to quash the investigation.
I know.
Then let him do it and stop whining about it.
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I'm not the one suggesting it end nor am I whining.
There's nothing to figure out. You reacted strangely to a link I provided someone else. Rather than trash the link, prove it wrong.
Simple, or do you need help with that?
The link you provided?
Did you have a DIFFERENT link you wanted to give me rather than the one you provided to another poster on the SAME topic?
The LINK you provided is an OPINION piece from a left-leaning site.
I won't bother attacking an OPINION, as that is rather pointless--especially when it isn't YOUR opinion.
No it is a poll, but the discussion contains the list of the convictions and indictments. If you don't like the list then prove it wrong. You can't because you know that it is factual.
No one I know of has ever denied that people have been indicted, and a few have pled guilty.
What hasn't been proven at all is collusion between Trump and Russians.
Hillary/Trump 2, 2020, the rematch!
Trump's goin' down this time...
She's not going to waste her time dealing with those deplorables again.
Abuela couldn't handle Trump the first time.
I don't see her as one who learns from history, either.
Or from herstory!
Even the bigwigs at the DNC realize Abuela is tainted goods.
Heck, if she hadn't bought the DNC in 2016, she probably would have lost the nomination!
Is Hillary your grandmother? Or do you not know how to spell Hillary?
Sure I know how to spell it. Here ya go!
ABUELA HILLARY RODHAM CLINTON
And quite luckily, she is NOT my grandmother or any other relation to me, thank God!
Now, is there anything ELSE I can clear up for you?
Then why do you keep calling her Grandmother?
You don't pay attention. She and her campaign called herself that. If it is good enough for her and her campaign, I am quite content in referring to her as she wanted.
Well, it's very nice that you think so highly of her. Good job!
I wouldn't spit on her if she was on fire.
There's a better than even chance he's going down (and out) before that.
Chance? Like the chance that Trump had at 270 electoral votes?
Or chance like his chances of beating Clinton?
Orange conman traitor in chief is "considering" this.....dance puppet, dance.
The firestorm over President Donald Trump's summit with Vladimir Putin has broadened to include the revelation that Trump is open to allowing Russian investigators to grill American citizens, including former U.S. ambassador Michael McFaul.
On the flip side it's very interesting that Trump didn't ask Putin to extradite the Russians who have been charged by Trump's DoJ with rigging the 2016 election to help Trump.
Since Putin claims that the "Russian state" wasn't involved, then surely he'll be just as interested as Trump in seeing justice done........
Putin kindly offers to help investigate Russian meddling in the US election
Trump called it an “incredible offer.”
Putin offered to help in the investigation:
'Putin said he’d allow members of Mueller’s team into Russia only if the US allowed him to reciprocate — to allow Russian operatives into the US. Specifically, Putin mentioned allegations against financier and vocal Putin critic Bill Browder — whom he accused of funneling (along with his associates) $400 million in donations to Hillary Clinton’s campaign.
In other words, this is Putin’s “interesting idea” to address exhaustively documented allegations that employees of the Russian government tried to interfere in the 2016 presidential campaign by hacking into, and publishing, private emails from one major party in the campaign:
But if Putin offered a quid pro quo, Trump appears to have heard only a favor. He later praised Putin for his willingness in cooperating in the investigation into his own government:
It is “incredible” — in that it is extremely hard to believe that a government whose employees are being investigated by a foreign country is going to participate, in good faith, in that investigation while denying out of hand that any wrongdoing took place. But Trump appears to believe just that.'
Thankfully the WH just nixed this, but now he may have summit 2.0 with his puppet master.
Bloomberg is now reporting that part of their private meeting involves Putin & Trump conspiring on how to hand over eastern Ukraine to Russia (ie in addition to Crimea).
You DO realize that America can not hand over anything that isn't ours, right?
Right?
It does show why Trump forced the GOP to change its platform on the Ukraine issue to make it much more friendly to Russia.
But you claimed that WE were handing over something we don't even have.
How exactly would that work?
Tacit approval, then look the other way, go all out pushing Russian's agenda and propaganda like he does today, only more. I'm sure there are other ways as well. Are you perplexed at why people are upset that Trump is on Putin's Russia page and not the US? Why don't you have a problem with that?
Perplexed?
The only thing that perplexes me is the strong, virulent, anti-American stance so many have in regards to our President.
NOBODY has an anti-American stance as yuuuuggggeee as Trump himself. The asshole dissed the entire country in Helsinki when he let Putin run the show and criticized the USA as he refused to criticize Putin personally, the guy who ordered this breach of our security. Don't try to ignore the traitor in the room while you try to project his anti-American words and deeds to liberals. Trump is the most anti-American president in our history, he is taking orders from and supporting Putin and Russia over the USA. Just stop. I contend Trump and most of the GOP have taken Russia's POV and side here, it is the rest of us who are the patriots trying to advocate for the USA instead of being a pussy and letting Putin lead the world. He's got Trump by his tiny balls.
Trump also said that not he or anyone on his campaign met with any RUssian's..... Lie.
He can't admit it because Trump is up to his eyeballs in it. He is conspiring with the enemy, period. The treasonous piece of shit even wants to hand over the ambassador to Putin! Un-fucking-believable.
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Very good!
next up after math class--LOGIC
Good luck!
Must be SOME kind of life if someone has time, energy, and a reason to count how many times someone else posts!
Lol! Tex is an avid blogger!
Check his count, please, I think he missed some!
Trump insisted that Russia is no longer targeting the U.S. elections.
If they are no longer doing it, then Trump is acknowledging that they did before.
Spot on! While trying to make excuses for Putin/Russia being wrongly accused, they are merely acknowledging their guilt in the first place.
'No longer' does does equal 'never did'.
If Trump thinks there were massive protests before, he hasn't seen anything yet when Putin comes to the WH this fall. Now that Trump has acknowledged that Putin did indeed meddle, imo that makes him an enemy of the people and for Putin to step foot in the WH is giving aid and comfort to the enemy.