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Remembrance

  

Category:  History & Sociology

By:  vic-eldred  •  6 years ago  •  10 comments

Remembrance
“President Macron of France has just suggested that Europe build its own military in order to protect itself from the U.S., China and Russia. Very insulting, but perhaps Europe should first pay its fair share of NATO, which the U.S. subsidizes greatly!”...Trump tweeted

The President is on his way to Paris, France to mark the 100th  anniversary of the end of World War I on November 11th. That war ended on the 11th hour of the 11th day of the 11th month of 1918. Ironically, the Great War was partially a consequence of Nationalism, which is a philosophy President Trump has sought to restore. Nationalism is defined as devotion to the culture or interests of ones nation. This weekend's ceremonies will take place at Champs-Elysees at the Arc de Triomphe on Sunday. 

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U.S. Gen. John J. Pershing said it was his "desire that every man in the American Expeditionary Forces should be given the opportunity to visit Paris before returning to the United States."
Thus the importance of Paris for Americans on a day remembering the epic tragedy of World War I. Nearly 10 million soldiers died in that war. It was a different era and a much different generation. Young men didn't ask "Why" they served without question. America's involvement in that war was no less perplexing than it was in Vietnam. The difference was that America's belated involvement in the First World War was decisive. Russia had abandoned the war due to the Communist revolution. The French army was on the verge of mutiny, while other armies, with the exception of the German Army were close to exhausted. The fresh American forces were able to force an Armistice. The infamous "Treaty of Versailles" followed, which was a major factor in instigating the world war that followed. 

The two great world wars will most likely be the last fought between the first world industrialized nations. We can only hope.

French leader Emmanuel Macron will be hosting the event. President Trump will also visit two burial sites. On Saturday the President has a meeting scheduled with French President Emmanuel Macron, and will attend a dinner for visiting heads of state later that evening. There is no set agenda for which European leaders will meet with Trump or what they might discuss. Much of the trip will be informal and open to the casual, spontaneous type of meetings that Trump likes.


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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1  author  Vic Eldred    6 years ago

Thousands of Church bells will be wrung across Europe Sunday morning

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
2  luther28    6 years ago

100th anniversary of the end of World War I

To all of them, and those that came before and after.

 
 
 
Old Hermit
Sophomore Silent
2.1  Old Hermit  replied to  luther28 @2    6 years ago
100th anniversary of the end of World War I

I'm really looking forward to watching Peter Jackson's documentary about World War I, "They Shall Not Grow Old" , once it's available for home viewing.

Hope the movie gets the kind of national viewing audience the subject deserves.

Peter Jackson (The Lord of the Rings trilogy) presents the World Premiere of an extraordinary new work showing the Great War as you have never seen it. This unique film brings into high definition the human face of the First World War as part of a special London Film Festival presentation alongside a live Q&A with director Peter Jackson hosted by Mark Kermode. Using state of the art technology to restore original archival footage which is more than a 100-years old, Jackson brings to life the people who can best tell this story: the men who were there. Driven by a personal interest in the First World War, Jackson set out to bring to life the day-to-day experience of its soldiers. After months immersed in the BBC and Imperial War Museums’ archives, narratives and strategies on how to tell this story began to emerge for Jackson. Using the voices of the men involved, the film explores the reality of war on the front line; their attitudes to the conflict; how they ate; slept and formed friendships, as well what their lives were like away from the trenches during their periods of downtime. Jackson and his team have used cutting edge techniques to make the images of a hundred years ago appear as if they were shot yesterday. The transformation from black and white footage to colourised footage can be seen throughout the film revealing never before seen details. Reaching into the mists of time, Jackson aims to give these men voices, investigate the hopes and fears of the veterans, the humility and humanity that represented a generation changed forever by a global war.

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Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Old Hermit @2.1    6 years ago

Thanks for the info

 
 
 
dave-2693993
Junior Quiet
2.1.2  dave-2693993  replied to  Old Hermit @2.1    6 years ago

Thank you for that post.

This description in your post brings back memories of documentaries my father would watch. A local UHF education channel would periodically show the old black and white films, which were in pretty bad condition, even then.

As more film was discovered, the documentaries were expanded to include them.

Of course there was no sound other than the commentator.

It was hellacious, as all wars are in their own way.

Here are sobering statistics:

Second column is WWI and third column is WWII

Casualties Estimated to be 10 million military dead, 7 million civilian deaths, 21 million wounded, and 7.7 million missing or imprisoned. Over 60 million people died in World War II. Estimated deaths range from 50-80 million. 38 to 55 million civilians were killed, including 13 to 20 million from war-related disease and famine.

WWI credited at 4 yrs duration and WWII credited at 6 yrs duration.

Overall WWII was the bloodiest of all in recorded history. By far.

Focusing on the combatants, some not so obvious numbers surface, especially considering WWI was predominantly focused in Europe, Asia Minor and parts of Africa.

Whereas WWII was truly more of a World War.

WWI; 10 million combatants dead at an average rate of 2.5 million per year.

WWII combatant deaths requires a little calculation. Some of us learned "over 60 million people died". Then we have the range of 50 to 80 million. How about we take the average of the 2 at 65 million?

We are given a range of civilian calualties of 38 - 55 million. Again, let's take the average of 46.5 million.

If my numbers are right here, 65 - 46.5 = 18.5 million dead combatants at a rate of ~3.08 million per year.

None of those statistics are good. They do however, how brutally lethal the first modern in what was a relatively limited geographic region.

Not all things modern are good.

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
2.1.3  luther28  replied to  Old Hermit @2.1    6 years ago

I will look forward to it, thank you

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
Junior Quiet
4  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    6 years ago

We used to call it Armistice Day (and it's called Remembrance Day in Europe which suffered vastly greater casualties than the U.S. and where it is a day of solemnity) but the official name in the U.S. was changed to Veterans Day to honor veterans, particular those who served in wars. 

Also, he claimed it was one of the bloodiest of all time.  As far as U.S. history goes, the Civil War is still the bloodiest by far.  There more  U.S. deaths from that war than WWi and WWII combined. 

By the way, true to type, Scumbag lied* about what Macron said.  The Elyisee Palace said the "president" (i.e., Scumbag) confused two different statements.  

Although it could be just more mental deterioration.  He's really been staggering, especially since the big Dem wins in Congress, governorships and state legs this week. 

 
 
 
lady in black
Professor Quiet
4.1  lady in black  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @4    6 years ago

And the scumbag couldn't even be bothered going to the cemetery because it was raining...he is a disgrace!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  JBB    6 years ago

An American soldier in Paris, my Grandfather celebrated The Armistice 11-11-1919.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @5    6 years ago

In 1919?

 
 

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