Senate Republicans Hint at Overriding Any Trump Veto on Tariffs

  
Via:  krishna  •  3 months ago  •  11 comments

Senate Republicans Hint at Overriding Any Trump Veto on Tariffs
. . . a growing consensus within the GOP that these new tariffs would amount to tax increases on American businesses and consumers — something that would represent a profound breach of party orthodoxy.

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Senate Finance Chairman Chuck Grassley urged President Donald Trump, who recently threatened new tariffs on Mexico, to take a different approach to addressing illegal immigration. | Tom Williams/CQ Roll Call

Congressional Republicans have begun discussing whether they may have to vote to block President Trump’s planned new tariffs on Mexico, potentially igniting a second standoff this year over Trump’s use of executive powers to circumvent Congress, people familiar with the talks said.

The vote, which would be the GOP’s most dramatic act of defiance since Trump took office, could also have the effect of blocking billions of dollars in border wall funding that the president had announced in February when he declared a national emergency at the southern border . . . 

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Krishna
1  seeder  Krishna    3 months ago

The vote, which would be the GOP’s most dramatic act of defiance since Trump took office, could also have the effect of blocking billions of dollars in border wall funding that the president had announced in February when he declared a national emergency at the southern border, said the people, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the talks are private.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Krishna @1    3 months ago

No, the "vote" is running side-by-side with the pathetic Dem/Libs "Impeach" "Impeach" "Impeach".

Congress has totally gotten out of whack with the populous and are too friggin' busy voting for their pockets.  Sorry, but, under the existing laws, the President can declare a national emergency even if there isn't enough tooth paste at WalMart - the reasons are for him and him alone - not some stupid azz politician who got elected to make tons of money.

 
 
 
Ender
1.1.1  Ender  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1    3 months ago

We do not have a king and the president cannot do just whatever he wants.

There are checks and balances.

 
 
 
Krishna
1.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1    3 months ago

Sorry,

No need to apologize-- we all make mistakes from time to time! jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

but, under the existing laws, the President can declare a national emergency even if there isn't enough tooth paste at WalMart - the reasons are for him and him alone - not some stupid azz politician who got elected to make tons of money.

Well, according to the article:

Trump’s plans to impose tariffs on Mexico — with which the United States has a free-trade agreement — rely on the president’s declaration of a national emergency at the border. But the law gives Congress the right to override the national emergency determination by passing a resolution of disapproval.

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1    3 months ago
the reasons are for him and him alone - not some stupid azz politician who got elected to make tons of money.

He is supposed to be representing ALL Americans, not his own pathetic ego. 

 
 
 
Krishna
2  seeder  Krishna    3 months ago

Trump’s plans to impose tariffs on Mexico — with which the United States has a free-trade agreement — rely on the president’s declaration of a national emergency at the border. But the law gives Congress the right to override the national emergency determination by passing a resolution of disapproval.

GOP lawmakers are growing anxious. “We have a lot of members who are very concerned, I think, about where this is headed,” said Senate Majority Whip John Thune (R-S.D.). Thune added that if the tariff standoff continues, “Congress is going to want to probably be heard from” in terms of trying to limit Trump’s tariff authority.

Aside from a resolution of disapproval, other lawmakers have argued that Congress should pass legislation that would claw back tariff authority from the executive branch. Sen. Patrick J. Toomey (R-Pa.) has introduced a bill that would require congressional approval before a president imposes tariffs under the auspices of national security, and again on Monday made a case for his legislation.

“As a general matter, I think Congress has shifted and delegated way too much power to the executive branch over decades,” Toomey said.

 
 
 
Ender
2.1  Ender  replied to  Krishna @2    3 months ago

I have to just shake my head.

If they go against him, they are in a hard spot, if they don't go against him, they are in a hard spot.

They have painted themselves into a corner.

They have allowed him to get away with things like this and now are going to feel the results.

 
 
 
Krishna
2.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Ender @2.1    3 months ago

They have allowed him to get away with things like this and now are going to feel the results.

Exactly.

For most of his past abuses of power, republicans have looked the other way. (Because they have agreed with those policies)

But trump's bizarre obsession with the wide-spread imposition of tariffs runs counter to tradition Conservative philosophy (Laissez-faire captialism-- and the concept of "free trade"). Republicans have traditionally been against excessive government interference in commerce-- they want no trade restrictions, because tariffs hurt business. 

In fact, its usually the Dems who would support tariffs-- because they are designed to support American workers (at least in theory).

So now many Republicans are in a quandry, especially as more and more their constituents begin to realize how much tariffs will s=art to hurt them.

 
 
 
Krishna
2.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @2.1.1    3 months ago

P.S; I could be wrong, but IMO because the use of these Mexican tariffs is such a nutty idea (because after all they are for political and not economic goals)....I think Trump will at the last minute  come up with some excuse not to impose them.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
2.1.3  r.t..b...  replied to  Krishna @2.1.2    3 months ago
(because after all they are for political and not economic goals)....I think Trump will at the last minute  come up with some excuse not to impose them.

Another walking back of yet another misguided, shoot-from-the-lip proposal.

 
 
 
Kavika
3  Kavika     3 months ago
a growing consensus within the GOP that these new tariffs would amount to tax increases on American businesses and consumers

Anyone with a IQ above room temperature knows that....WTF do they think all the tariffs before this latest round were...DUH 

 
 
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