Lindsey Graham accuses Donald Trump of telling a ‘lie’ about defeat of ISIS in Syria

  
Via:  krishna  •  2 months ago  •  17 comments

Lindsey Graham accuses Donald Trump of telling a ‘lie’ about defeat of ISIS in Syria
“The biggest lie being told by the administration is that ISIS has been defeated,” Graham declared Monday morning

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FILE -- Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) speaks to reporters on Capitol Hill in Washington (Gabriella Demczuk/The New York Times)

U.S. Sen. Lindsey Graham is accusing President Donald Trump of misleading the American people.

The South Carolina Republican wasn’t referring to Trump maintaining his innocence regarding a phone call he had with the Ukrainian president where he suggested the foreign government might investigate former Vice President Joe Biden.

Graham was, instead, talking about Trump’s decision late Sunday night to withdraw American troops from northern Syria on the grounds that the war has been won against the radical terrorist group known as ISIS.

“The biggest lie being told by the administration is that ISIS has been defeated,” Graham declared Monday morning in a phone interview aired live on Fox and Friends.

Related :

1. Trump abandoning Kurdish partners in Syria sends a chilling message to every other American ally

2. ISIS Is Regaining Strength In Iraq And Syria

3. Why I Support The Kurds, The Indians Of The Middle East.


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Krishna
1  seeder  Krishna    2 months ago

The South Carolina Republican wasn’t referring to Trump maintaining his innocence regarding a phone call he had with the Ukrainian president where he suggested the foreign government might investigate former Vice President Joe Biden.

Graham was, instead, talking about Trump’s decision late Sunday night to withdraw American troops from northern Syria on the grounds that the war has been won against the radical terrorist group known as ISIS.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Krishna @1    2 months ago
The South Carolina Republican wasn’t referring to Trump maintaining his innocence regarding a phone call he had with the Ukrainian president where he suggested the foreign government might investigate former Vice President Joe Biden. Graham was, instead, talking about Trump’s decision late Sunday night to withdraw American troops from northern Syria on the grounds that the war has been won against the radical terrorist group known as ISIS.

Lindsey Graham is seeing the writing on the wall.  He now has to show some token resistance to Trump, so as to cover his own ass should the impeachment succeed.  Graham has sold his soul to Trump, lock, stock, and barrel and is now seeing that Trump may go down.  He is also realizing that if Trump does go, his narcissism will take everybody with him as Rick Perry has now discovered.

Trump is an anchor, and he will drag everyone attached to him to the bottom as well.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    2 months ago

I dunno about Graham seeing the writing on the wall. I think he sticks his finger in the wind to determine which side he's going come down on that day

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.1    2 months ago
I think he sticks his finger in the wind to determine which side he's going come down on that day

You are correct, and he is seeing the wind starting to change direction.  He needs to figure out which side of the ship to abandon from.

 
 
 
Krishna
2  seeder  Krishna    2 months ago

“The campaign is over,” Graham said when a Fox News host asked whether the senator should be surprised that Trump would take this action. “I expect the American president to do what’s in our national security interests. It’s never in our national security interests to abandon an ally who has helped us fight ISIS. It is never in our national security interests to create conditions for the reemergence of ISIS.”

“This impulsive decision by the president has undone all the gains we’ve made (and) thrown the region into chaos,” Graham added.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Krishna @2    2 months ago
“The campaign is over,” Graham said when a Fox News host asked whether the senator should be surprised that Trump would take this action. “I expect the American president to do what’s in our national security interests. It’s never in our national security interests to abandon an ally who has helped us fight ISIS. It is never in our national security interests to create conditions for the reemergence of ISIS.” “This impulsive decision by the president has undone all the gains we’ve made (and) thrown the region into chaos,” Graham added.

Graham is a moron. Syria is not in chaos now? Syria is the very definition of chaos. A civil war that has expanded into a never ending proxy war. We have the butt munch duo of Bush Jr and Obama to thank for that.

So what is the solution? Continue as is in a never ending proxy war wasting money and lives (even if they are not US lives right now)? Start WWIII and remove Assad? Get real.

How about we look at the rest of the damn world for a change and ask them to step to the plate? Put their money and military on the line for a change. If the Kurds are such a noble cause then the world should be happy to intervene. 

As for ISIS/ISIL. You cannot defeat an ideology. As a military force they are finished in Syria and Iraq. They have moved onto greener pastures in Lebanon, Libya, Afghanistan, and Africa.  Also, Russia, China, and Iran are in Syria- all with vested interests in that country. A resurgent ISIS/ISIL is not in their best interests. Nor is letting Turkey invade the northern part of Syria.

The Kurds are negotiating with Syria already; but the Russians don't seem too interested. Of course they have no desire to see the Kurds form a Kurdistan.  Nor does the rest of the middle east.  That is about the one thing they can all agree on.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
2.2  SteevieGee  replied to  Krishna @2    2 months ago

Trump doesn't care about national security.  Trump cares about Trump.  Lindsey Graham sees the US pulling out prematurely and sacrificing the Kurds who are an important ally.  Trump sees an opportunity to lie about winning and say isis is defeated.  That's all he needs right now.  His base only hears "bla bla bla isis is defeated bla bla bla Mexico will pay bla bla bla.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3  Paula Bartholomew    2 months ago

I think we figured that out already after the first ISIS attack after Trump's BS announcement.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1  Texan1211  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3    2 months ago

Yes, that "junior varsity" is proving to be quite resilient!

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.1  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    2 months ago

“Well, at least the Trump Administration is consistent.

We are about screwing our allies, partners and friends ,”  said  John Sipher, who served 28 years in the Central Intelligence Agency’s clandestine service, including tours of duty as a station chief in hot spots around Europe and Asia.

“Don't trust America, even if you shed blood on their behalf. If you want favors, build a Trump tower.”

 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.2  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @3.1.1    2 months ago

Other critics of Trump’s decision to withdraw from Syria were also quick to note that there is  a Trump Tower complex  in  Istanbul . This Ivanka Trump tweet from 2012 is making the rounds this morning:

Thank you Prime Minister Erdogan for joining us yesterday to celebrate the launch of # TrumpTowers Istanbul!

6:56 AM - 20 Apr 2012
 
 
 
Krishna
3.1.3  seeder  Krishna  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    2 months ago
Yes, that "junior varsity" is proving to be quite resilient!

WTF???

Do you actually know anything about the Kurds-- who are one of Americas best & most reliable allies?

Here's more about the Kurds:

Why I Support The Kurds, The Indians Of The Middle East. (Here's the link to the seed on NT)

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Krishna @3.1.1    2 months ago

Yawn. Got anything relevant?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1    2 months ago

I just know that anyone who still blasts Bush for his "mission accomplished" episode who supports Trump needs to just stfu.

 
 
 
JBB
4  JBB    2 months ago

Let us know when Lindsey grows a ball. Half a ball doesn't cut it....

 
 
 
Krishna
5  seeder  Krishna    2 months ago

More background information:

Five months after American-backed forces ousted the Islamic State from its last shard of territory in Syria, the terrorist group is gathering new strength, conducting guerrilla attacks across Iraq and Syria, retooling its financial networks and targeting new recruits at an allied-run tent camp, American and Iraqi military and intelligence officers said. (Link to NT seed)
 
 
 
Nerm_L
6  Nerm_L    2 months ago

Syria is a sovereign country.  Turkey is a member of NATO.  The Kurds are a separatist group.  ISIS in Syria is being used as a smokescreen to justify proxy war with Iran, Russia, China, and God knows who else.

Nation building doesn't work for the United States.  Nation building can't be done democratically; nation building requires war against a civilian population.  The United States isn't aligned with the government of Syria; the US is aligned with separatists who are proxies engaged in war against a civilian population to overthrow the government of Syria and Turkey.  And those proxies have a history of cooperating with Al Qaeda, ISIS, or any other group that aids in their war against a civilian population.

Turkey is a member of NATO.  Turkey is negotiating to become a member of the EU based on being a member of the European Economic Council that preceded the EU.  Turkey has aligned itself with Europe.  Why doesn't Europe impose some restraint on Turkey?  Why is it necessary for the United States to confront Turkey in Syria by supporting Kurdish separatists as proxies? 

Why is it necessary for the United States to fight a proxy war against NATO and Europe by confronting Turkey in Syria?

Senator Lindsey Graham speaking out against removing US troops from Syria provides a forum for Republican debate.  Trump is changing the Republican Party.  The question that needs to be addressed is whether or not Republicans want to go back to the Cold War strategy of nation building and endless proxy wars.  Graham highlights the need for Republicans to choose.  Which will it be?  Should the United States try to build a nation for the Kurds by fighting the entire world?  Or should the United States acknowledge that nation building has been a distraction that has weakened our country?

 
 
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