Durham's investigation into possible FBI misconduct is now criminal probe, sources say

  
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Durham's investigation into possible FBI misconduct is now criminal probe, sources say

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U.S. Attorney John Durham's ongoing probe into potential FBI and  Justice Department  misconduct in the run-up to the 2016 election through the spring of 2017 has transitioned into a full-fledged criminal investigation, two sources familiar with the investigation told Fox News on Thursday night.

One source added that DOJ Inspector General Michael Horowitz's upcoming report on alleged FBI surveillance abuses against the Trump campaign will shed light on why Durham's probe has become a criminal inquiry. Horowitz  announced  on Thursday his report would be available to the public soon, with "few" redactions.

The investigation's new status means Durham can subpoena witnesses, file charges, and impanel fact-finding grand juries.

Fox News  reported on Tuesday  that Durham's probe had expanded significantly based on new evidence uncovered during a recent trip to Rome with Attorney General Bill Barr.

Barr  reportedly told embassy officials in Italy that he "needed a conference room to meet high-level Italian security agents where he could be sure no one was listening in."

A source in the Italian Ministry of Justice told The Daily Beast earlier this month that Barr and Durham were played a taped deposition made by Joseph Mifsud, the professor who allegedly told ex-Trump aide George Papadopoulos that the Russians had "dirt" on Hillary Clinton. Mifsud reportedly was explaining to investigators in the deposition why people would want to harm him, and why he needed police protection.

Papadopoulos  has suggested he was connected with Mifsud  as part of a setup orchestrated by intelligence agencies.

Sources told Fox News that Durham was "very interested" to question former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former CIA Director  John Brennan , an anti-Trump critic who recently dismissed the idea. The New York Times  reported  Thursday that Durham's criminal review has prompted some CIA officials to obtain criminal legal counsel in anticipation of being interviewed.

GOP REVEALS NEVER-BEFORE-SEEN STRZOK TEXTS DISCUSSING 'CRESCENDO OF LEAKS'

Brennan and Clapper  were at the helm  not only when Mifsud spoke to Papadopoulos, but also when an  unverified and largely discredited dossier , written by British ex-spy Christopher Steele and funded by the Hillary Clinton campaign and Democratic National Committee, was used to help justify a secret surveillance warrant against former Trump adviser Carter Page in the run-up to the 2016 election. (The Times'  reporting  on Thursday, which overtly framed Durham's probe as politically tainted without evidence, did not mention the Steele dossier at all.)

The FBI apparently obscured the fact that the Clinton campaign and DNC funded the dossier in its warrant application, telling the secret court only that the dossier was prepared at the behest of an unidentified presidential campaign.

Additionally, in its original FISA application and subsequent renewals, the FBI told the FISA court it "did not believe" Steele was the direct source for a  Yahoo News article implicating Page in Russian collusion . Instead, the FBI suggested to the secret court, the September 2016 article by Michael Isikoff was independent corroboration of the dossier. But, London court records showed that contrary to the FBI's assessments, Steele briefed Yahoo News and other reporters in the fall of 2016 at the direction of Fusion GPS

It has further emerged that Steele had communications with a State Department contact -- which were relayed to the FBI -- in which Steele claimed the Russians were running a "technical/human operation run out of Moscow targeting the election" and that "payments to those recruited are made out of the Russian Consulate in Miami."

There is no Russian consulate in Miami, a fact the State Department official, Deputy Assistant Secretary of State Kathleen Kavalec, emphasized in her notes. And, Steele had suggested his client was "keen" to see his information come to light prior to Election Day.

Kavalec forwarded her notes to the FBI and other government officials several days before the FISA warrant was issued for Page.

Additionally, Special Counsel Robert Mueller was unable to substantiate other key claims in the dossier, including that the Trump campaign employed hackers in the United States, that there was a compromising recording of the president in a hotel room, and that ex-Trump attorney Michael Cohen flew to Prague to build a conspiracy with hackers. Cohen has denied ever heading to Prague, and no public evidence has contradicted that claim.

Nevertheless, in responding to the expanded Durham probe, House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler, D-N.Y., and House Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff, D-Calif., followed the Times' framing and accused the Trump administration of misconduct.

“These reports, if true, raise profound new concerns that the Department of Justice under Attorney General William Barr has lost its independence and become a vehicle for President Trump’s political revenge," they said. “If the Department of Justice may be used as a tool of political retribution, or to help the President with a political narrative for the next election, the rule of law will suffer new and irreparable damage.”

Also on Thursday, top Republicans  revealed never-before-seen texts  from fired FBI agent Peter Strzok, in which he apparently discussed systemic leaking at the bureau.

DISPUTE ERUPTS AS BRENNAN, COMEY APPEAR TO DISPUTE WHO PUSHED THE STEELE DOSSIER

Senate Homeland Security Committee Chairman Ron Johnson, R-Wis., and Finance Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, revealed the texts in a letter to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) requesting an update on whether the FBI's apparent leaks to the media were being probed.

The senators pushed to know whether the ICIG was looking into Strzok's email to FBI colleagues on April 13, 2017, when he wrote that an unidentified "agency" might be the "source of some of the leaks" to the media that he'd been seeing.

READ THE FULL LETTER TO ATKINSON, INCLUDING THE NEWLY RELEASED STRZOK TEXTS

"I'm beginning to think the agency got info a lot earlier than we thought and hasn't shared it completely with us," Strzok wrote, according to documents that the senators included in their letter to the ICIG. "Might explain all these weird/seemingly incorrect leads all these media folks have. Would also highlight agency as a source of some of the leaks."

The senators also asked why Strzok texted bureau colleague Lisa Page on Dec. 15, 2016: "Think our sisters have begun leaking like mad. Scorned and worried and political, they're kicking in to overdrive."

"What are they worried about, and what are they kicking into 'overdrive?' Johnson and Grassley wrote. "Who are the 'sisters,' and what does it mean to say that the 'sisters have [been] leaking like mad'?"

In a June 6, 2017 email to Page, Strzok mused, "Think there will be a crescendo of leaks/articles leading up to Thurs."

And, a Dec. 13, 2016 text message apparently showed Strzok trying to set up a Skype meeting with a reporter. "Text from reporter: retrieving my password for Skype," he wrote.

Then, on April 6, 2017, Strzok wrote to senior FBI leadership to complain about a New York Times article entitled,  "C.I.A. Had Evidence of Russian Effort to Help Trump Earlier Than Believed ," claiming it painted the FBI in an unfavorable light and got key facts wrong.

"Mike, below is inaccurate, favors the CIA at the expense of the FBI in particular, and is at odds with what Apuzzo and Goldman know," Strzok wrote. "Most importantly, it's at odds with the D's [FBI Director's] recent public testimony that we've been looking at links (which necessarily imply favoring Trump) since July '16."

Strzok specifically objected to the Times' reporting that the CIA's briefings with lawmakers "indicate that intelligence officials had evidence of Russia’s intentions to help Mr. Trump much earlier in the presidential campaign than previously thought," and "reveal a critical split last summer between the C.I.A. and counterparts at the F.B.I., where a number of senior officials  continued to believe  through last fall that Russia’s cyberattacks were aimed primarily at disrupting America’s political system, and not at getting Mr. Trump elected, according to interviews."

Horowitz, the DOJ watchdog, faulted the FBI last year for  repeated violations of its media communications policy , noting that agents had received gifts from reporters and leaked regularly and brazenly -- even from phones at FBI headquarters in Washington, D.C.


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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 weeks ago

The Obama administration spied on a major political campaign and pushed a Hoax to justify it.

Brennan is saying he was following orders.

This is why Schiff and the media are once again promoting A new hoax. 

Meanwhile in federal court General Flynn's new lawyer dropped  a bomb yesterday.  She filed fbi docs showing Lisa Page edited the infamous Flynn 302 and proof James Clapper was the leaker.

Welcome to the biggest corruption scandal in US history eclipsing Watergate.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1    4 weeks ago

Hum.....What a shock!

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.1.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    4 weeks ago

You had to have your partisan head in the sand to miss this one.

The crazy Russia narrative. The leaks, all the unnamed secret sources etc.

They will continue to make it about Trump but it's not, this is about an administration that interfered with an opposition political campaign before and after election. The transfer of power was not.

A massive purging of the CIA, NSA and state department must happen to root out the filth.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1.1.1    4 weeks ago

Do you remember back when we first learned that the FBI used the Steele Dossier to get a FISA Warrant?   Right here on NT we had individuals trying to say the "dossier" was credible or that it must have been verified, or must have had other evidence to back it up. Andrew McCabe in a rare moment of honesty - behind closed doors, told everyone - without the dossier there could not have been an investigation! Then the FBI tried to make it look like the dossier didn't start it - it was George Papadopolous who for some reason kept bumping into western intelligence assets - Ya, it was Papadopolous!!! ! The Mueller Report kind of claimed that Joseph Mifsud was connected to Russia.....they never arrested him.....they couldn't find him. Now we are starting to wonder if he was really working with the CIA?   They apparently framed Papadopolous because they needed a reason unrelated to the "Clinton paid for" "dossier." 

They apparently did an injustice to Michael Flynn.

I see indictments coming and this time we only need Durham to nail 'em!

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1.1.1    4 weeks ago
A massive purging of the CIA, NSA and state department must happen to root out the filth.

You forgot the DNI.   That operation is so far removed from what it was originally intended as is a good reason to entirely dismantle the entire thing and start all over again.

That will be extremely hard.  It runs wide and deep, very deep.  It's not just at the top where the rot exists, but down in the bone and muscle of everyday operations.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.2    4 weeks ago

"The 302 the FBI used to extract a plea from Michael Flynn contradicted the notes of the interviewing agents, was secretly edited by Lisa Page and backdated, and was concealed from Flynn’s legal team for years" .... https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/25/sidney-powell-drops-bombshell-showing-how-the-fbi-trapped-michael-flynn/#.XbMA5c_k-4Q.twitter

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.4    4 weeks ago

Sounds like Page (and those that aided her) should be brought up on charges for evidence tampering and obstruction.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.5    4 weeks ago

Page is a bit smarter than the others. If you recall she was co-operative. She knew they couldn't hide it. Once they couldn't take the President down, they were screwed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1    4 weeks ago

As the truth comes out about the 'president' and his entire cabinet and administration, the gop are desperate for deflection.

INVESTIGATE THE INVESTIGATORS!!

What a joke.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    4 weeks ago
As the truth comes out about the 'president'

And he is going to continue as THE PRESIDENT!  Get used to it.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.2.2  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.1    4 weeks ago

Prepare the comfort blankies.

I told you this is going to be rough.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1.2.2    4 weeks ago

A nice safe space will do it. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.2.4  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.3    4 weeks ago

The safe space for Obama hacks will be a cell in a Manhattan holding facility.

Just take comfort knowing that if you stay quiet and steer clear of the Clinton's you won't commit suicide.

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.2.5  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    4 weeks ago

The only joke is the left still thinks this wasn't an organized plot to spy on an opponent's campaign.

When Brennan, Clapper, and Comey are turning on each other and lawyering up you know there is fire.

 
 
 
MUVA
1.2.6  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    4 weeks ago

It really isn't joke some of the anti american scum maybe going to prison. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.2.7  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  MUVA @1.2.6    4 weeks ago

What a nasty stain on one of the worst economic policy presidents in US history.

Obama couldn't run a little girl's lemonade stand.

He authorized this corruption.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1.2.4    4 weeks ago
The safe space for Obama hacks will be a cell in a Manhattan holding facility.

I only ask for the honor of placing them in their cells.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1.2.9  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.8    4 weeks ago

Prepare for some of the stupidest and most bizarre but trumpy rebuttals.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1.2.9    4 weeks ago

Yup, to quote Paul Avery - "This can no longer be ignored!"

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The media ignored this story for a long time. Now that it has become a criminal investigation it is time for rebuttal & slogans.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2.11  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    4 weeks ago

But it's not a joke tessy. Like climate change it is real and it is happening now. All the embarrassing and inconvenient truth about this shabby shitshow by the left wing crooks will be revealed bit by bit.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    4 weeks ago
INVESTIGATE THE INVESTIGATORS!!

You see Tess, when you have multiple investigations with no criminal predicate and they go on for almost 3 years with no findings, people are bound to question how those investigations began.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.2.13  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.8    4 weeks ago

Would theirs be next to Trump's and Guillani's?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.2.13    4 weeks ago

Next to?  They are front and center

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1    4 weeks ago
Brennan is saying he was following orders.

That didn't hold up in Nuremberg and it won't hold up now.

The good part is that Brennan was a low life backstabbing shithead while a staff officer at the CIA and that reputation stayed with him when he was appointed Director.  While he does have a few asskissing underlings hanging around, there are plenty that will have no problem watching him do a perp walk.  Hell, the buildings would probably erupt in cheers when he's indicted.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
1.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @1    4 weeks ago
The Obama administration spied on a major political campaign and pushed a Hoax to justify it.

Accept that nothing in the above seed proves that conjecture in the slightest. It's just a bunch of disparate half truths cobbled together into the desired conservative narrative.

 
 
 
WallyW
1.4.1  WallyW  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.4    4 weeks ago

The reality and truth of the situation will eventually dawn on you..

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
2  Dean Moriarty    4 weeks ago

This is going to be a bitter pill to swallow for the deep state deniers. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    4 weeks ago

Don't forget about their collaborators in the media. They purposely failed to do the job they were once trusted to do.

The Obama white House is busy today shopping for lawyers.

Meanwhile in an alternate reality of fake news the corrupt rats that took jobs at CNN are blaming one another. They are singing......

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1    4 weeks ago
Don't forget about their collaborators in the media.

Did anybody happen to catch Rachel Maddow last night?   She was beside herself & visibly upset. She said "That is the conspiracy theory that the attorney general of the United States appears to have been going around the world trying to prove"


I suppose that is why we hear the same comments here repeated over and over.




 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.2  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Vic Eldred @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

Sources in the DOJ say it's there.

I'm shocked at how good Flynn's new attorney is.

They fucked a man that has dedicated his life to his country and she just ripped the FBI and DOJ a new asshole and exonerated her client. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.2    4 weeks ago
They fucked a man that has dedicated his life to his country and she just ripped the FBI and DOJ a new asshole and exonerated her client. 

People's lives & reputations mean little to them. For those like Andrew Weissmann or Adam Schiff or John Brennan it's all about winning, power and that rotten ideology. President Trump recently called them "vicious."  The President is kind of innocent in that way. He had to go through all this to find that out. I could have told him long ago what they are like!

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    4 weeks ago
This is going to be a bitter pill to swallow for the deep state deniers.

the coup failed,  the following narrative failed and now the defense will fail as well.

even thou they denied it, deep down most everyone knows it was all leftwing bs.

here's the good news. things are fixing to get messy for the "non-existant deepstate coup plotters

will be good fun to watch :)

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.2.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.2    4 weeks ago

We are about to meet a new kind of whistleblower, the kind that tells all to save their own ass.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.2.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.2.1    4 weeks ago
the kind that tells all to save their own ass.

count on it.

256

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.2.3  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.2.2    4 weeks ago

Schiff and Nadler are imploding. They couldn't flank with fake news quick enough. 

We are going to need 4 tons of Kleenex and 10,000 doses of prozac for our moonbat friends here. Please be compassionate and patient with them. They will need comfort.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.2.4  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.2.3    4 weeks ago
They will need comfort.

first, they will need a mental therapist

256

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
2.2.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.2.4    4 weeks ago

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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.2.6  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.2.4    4 weeks ago

They needed a magician but he couldn't make the truth disappear forever.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 weeks ago

320

 
 
 
evilgenius
4  evilgenius    4 weeks ago

Just calling it a criminal investigation means nothing except they can now subpoena people that wouldn't talk to the investigators voluntarily. It does not mean they have any evidence of any wrong doing.

We'll know more when the FISA report comes out. It should be soon.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1  XDm9mm  replied to  evilgenius @4    4 weeks ago
Just calling it a criminal investigation means nothing except they can now subpoena people that wouldn't talk to the investigators voluntarily. It does not mean they have any evidence of any wrong doing.

Maybe you should review the history of John Durham.  The man is a pittbull who would and has put people behind bars, including FBI agents.

He investigated FBI corruption before and exonerated men wrongly convicted of crimes and got them released after spending decades behind bars on trumped up charges.  Further, he prosecuted those very same FBI agents and they are now behind bars.  He was also the man that was responsible for a judge threatening Mueller with contempt of court for his refusal to turn over the exculpatory evidence the FBI had on those convicted men and did not divulge to the defense.

Yeah, but John Durham only calls it a criminal investigation to talk to witnesses.  

I have the deeds to several bridges and tunnels in New York that I'll let you have cheap if you actually believe Durham only wants to talk.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 weeks ago

The MSM are losing their minds on Twitter. Too funny.

They know they ran fake news for three years and their readership and viewers won't respond kindly to the truth.

 
 
 
evilgenius
5.1  evilgenius  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5    4 weeks ago
They know they ran fake news for three years and their readership and viewers won't respond kindly to the truth.

I know, right? Hillary will be indicted any minute now. HAHAHAHAHAHA! 

 
 
 
bugsy
5.1.1  bugsy  replied to  evilgenius @5.1    4 weeks ago
Hillary will be indicted any minute now. HAHAHAHAHAHA! 

You probably still think Chris Christie will be indicted any day now for Bridgegate.....

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.2  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  evilgenius @5.1    4 weeks ago

Hey, look Russian collusion and a giraffe humping a donkey!

384

 
 
 
Sunshine
5.1.3  Sunshine  replied to  evilgenius @5.1    4 weeks ago
 Hillary will be indicted any minute now. 

Hillary?  Nah, Clapper is throwing Obama under the bus. 

“If it weren’t for President Obama we might not have done the intelligence community assessment that we did that set up a whole sequence of events which are still unfolding today, notably Special Counsel Mueller’s investigation. President Obama is responsible for that. It was he who tasked us to do that intelligence community assessment in the first place,” Clapper said in his Anderson Cooper interview. https://bigleaguepolitics.com/clapper-admits-obama-personally-ordered-peter-strzok-to-set-up-mueller-probe/
 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.4  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sunshine @5.1.3    4 weeks ago

Their favorite president of all time spied on an opposing political campaign.

Advanced Stage 4 TDS is setting in.

Take cover!

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1.5  MUVA  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.4    4 weeks ago

And reporters.

 
 
 
evilgenius
5.1.6  evilgenius  replied to  Sunshine @5.1.3    4 weeks ago
Nah, Clapper is throwing Obama under the bus. 

sure... sure...

 
 
 
evilgenius
5.1.7  evilgenius  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.4    4 weeks ago
Their favorite president of all time spied on an opposing political campaign.

There still is no proof of that, but you believe whatever weaselzippers tells you to. I'll wait until someone with any credibility actually offers some evidence.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1.8  Greg Jones  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.7    4 weeks ago

You don't know if there is any proof or not. That's what investigations are for. Stay tuned. It's gonna get ugly..

 
 
 
evilgenius
5.1.9  evilgenius  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.8    4 weeks ago
You don't know if there is any proof or not. That's what investigations are for. Stay tuned. It's gonna get ugly..

So if we have no proof, then why do you expect things to get ugly? I've been hearing about how corrupt the Obama Admin was, investigation after investigation has produced nothing but conspiracy theories. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1.10  Greg Jones  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.9    4 weeks ago

The Obama administration has never had a formal in depth investigation until now. Stay alert and listen and learn.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.11  XDm9mm  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.6    4 weeks ago
sure... sure...

Yep, yep.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.12  XDm9mm  replied to  evilgenius @5.1.7    4 weeks ago
I'll wait until someone with any credibility actually offers some evidence.

How about the words of Clapper himself?  Is that credible enough?

Former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper is arguing he was concerned about the Russians interfering in the election, which is why his agency gathered "information." During a recent interview with CNN, Clapper admitted he was simply following orders from the "commander-in-chief," who had ordered intelligence agencies to do so.  "I don't know. I don’t think there was any wrongdoing," Clapper said. "My main concern was with the Russians and the threat posed by the Russians to our very political fabric and ugh, the message I'm getting from all of this is apparently what we were supposed to have done was to ignore the Russian interference, ignore the Russian meddling and the threat that it poses to us and oh by the way, blown off what the then commander-in-chief, President Obama, told us to do, which was to assemble all of the reporting we could." 

Source:   https://townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2019/10/08/oh-my-did-james-clapper-just-admit-that-president-obama-directed-him-to-go-after-the-trump-campaign-n2554364

 
 
 
Tessylo
6  Tessylo    4 weeks ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
6.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @6    4 weeks ago

Deflection meme alert!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
MUVA
6.2  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @6    4 weeks ago

The proof is there [Deleted]

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6    4 weeks ago

"prove Trump is innocent"?  They just don't get how it works!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.3.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.3    4 weeks ago
They just don't get how it works!

That is a understatement, But there isn't a lot the left does understand.

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Vic Eldred
6.3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  KDMichigan @6.3.1    4 weeks ago

They understand power and the vicious pursuit thereof.

 
 
 
Sunshine
6.4  Sunshine  replied to  Tessylo @6    4 weeks ago

Innocent of what?  You don't even know do you?

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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.4.1  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sunshine @6.4    4 weeks ago

But Rachel Maddow says it's written in the prophecy "The Compost Manifesto".

She even had a tarot card reader that said it was true plus she called Miss Cleo MSLSD'S newest paid contributor.

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Greg Jones
6.5  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @6    4 weeks ago

Oh you wait, there will be evidence galore. That's because this will be a real investigation, instead of a sham politically motivated one. Innocence doesn't have to be proven, guilt does.            

It's all over Miss Tessy...the chicks are coming home to roost.

 
 
 
evilgenius
6.5.1  evilgenius  replied to  Greg Jones @6.5    4 weeks ago
Oh you wait, there will be evidence galore.

You guys said that during the Hillary Clinton investigation. Even going so far as to say that hundreds of rank and file FBI agents would quit if she didn't get indicted. How'd that work out again?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
6.5.2  Greg Jones  replied to  evilgenius @6.5.1    4 weeks ago

I have never said anything like that. Even Comey said she be prosecuted, but declined to do so for political reasons.

The worthless bitch was drunk and passed out during Benghazi, and she allowed the Russians to hack those 30,000 emails she thought she deleted.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.5.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilgenius @6.5.1    4 weeks ago
You guys said that durning the Hillary Clinton investigation.

These are the same rats that pulled that scam!  That one stunk up all of DC.

 
 
 
evilgenius
6.5.4  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.5.3    4 weeks ago
These are the same rats that pulled that scam!

Why is it all a scam when it comes to things you don't like? 

That one stunk up all of DC.

DC has stunk since Washington himself stepped down and will stink until the zombie apocalypse over runs it. Doesn't matter who's running the show there. Politics is a shitty business.

 
 
 
JBB
6.5.5  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @6.5.2    4 weeks ago

You must have purposely missed it all butt the Justice Department, Trump's and Barr's Justice Department, just finished another exhaustive investigation into the Clinton email brouhaha and they determined that neither Hillory nor her staff were guilty of any negligent abuse of the State Department e-mail system. Hillary was completely cleared of any wrongdoing, again, by Trump's own Justice Department. 

Yes, some emails got classified secret after the fact butt there is no evidence of wrongdoing...

Mrs Clinton has been retired from public service for seven years come January and has been investigated to death by successive gop congresses and committees without ever being indicted for breaking the law.

Zero Nada No Zip ranking Obama campaign or administration officials, including Mrs Clinton, have ever been criminally indicted for official malfeasance in office.

What about Trump? Let's see, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone, Michael Flynn, Michael Coen, um, need I go on and on? Trump would have and should have been indicted for obstruction of justice for Russiagate butt Trump's Justice Department would not let him.

This time...Trump Is TOAST!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.5.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  evilgenius @6.5.4    4 weeks ago
Why is it all a scam when it comes to things you don't like? 

Having subpoenaed e-mails destroyed and the person doing the destroying given immunity is something nobody should like. We have gone through all of it countless times. You just sit there and say it was a legitimate investigation. It's the same gang that investigated Trump. Might it be that you liked what they did?  


Politics is a shitty business.

And it's going to get a lot shittier for progressives. It's gonna suck being them!

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.5.7  XDm9mm  replied to  evilgenius @6.5.1    4 weeks ago
Even going so far as to say that hundreds of rank and file FBI agents would quit if she didn't get indicted

Would you have evidence of that?  I'll be candid and say I never saw that bit of balderdash proposed by anyone.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.5.8  XDm9mm  replied to  JBB @6.5.5    4 weeks ago
You must have purposely missed it all butt the Justice Department, Trump's and Barr's Justice Department, just finished another exhaustive investigation into the Clinton email brouhaha and they determined that neither Hillory nor her staff were guilty of any negligent abuse of the State Department e-mail system.

I'd like to know when that was accomplished.  I DO KNOW that an internal Department of State, Inspector General investigation was just reported on, but that did NOT//NOT involve the Department of Justice or Attorney General Barr.   You DO have a source to support that contention don't you?

 
 
 
Ronin2
6.5.9  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @6.5.5    4 weeks ago

No you missed it because it wasn't the justice department; but the state department that did an internal investigation.

I am sure they weren't protecting their own damn asses./S

https://www.apnews.com/14b14afc5d8647858489a2cf5385c28d

The State Department has completed its internal investigation into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s use of private email and found violations by 38 people, some of whom may face disciplinary action.

The investigation, launched more than three years ago, determined that those 38 people were “culpable” in 91 cases of sending classified information that ended up in Clinton’s personal email, according to a letter sent to Republican Sen. Chuck Grassley this week and released Friday. The 38 are current and former State Department officials but were not identified.

Although the report identified violations, it said investigators had found “no persuasive evidence of systemic, deliberate mishandling of classified information.” However, it also made clear that Clinton’s use of the private email had increased the vulnerability of classified information.

Clinton spokesman Nick Merrill said in a tweet Saturday: “For the umpteenth time the email story is put to bed w/ a clear recognition it was a pointless crusade that took away from so many other issues we should have been discussing in ’16.”

The investigation covered 33,000 emails that Clinton turned over for review after her use of the private email account became public. The department said it found a total of 588 violations involving information then or now deemed to be classified but could not assign fault in 497 cases.

Only Hillary Clinton and her sycophants would find that clears her. Seems they have transferred blame from Hillary over to 38 expendable underlings at the State Department- who should have known better to ever trust her with classified information. Of course they also could not assign fault in 497 cases. Time for a review of those cases by the DOJ. The State Department is still hiding things.

 
 
 
MUVA
6.5.10  MUVA  replied to  JBB @6.5.5    4 weeks ago

No

 
 
 
JBB
6.5.11  JBB  replied to  XDm9mm @6.5.8    4 weeks ago
 
 
 
JBB
6.5.12  JBB  replied to  MUVA @6.5.10    4 weeks ago

Oh Yeah! It is. Just see the link below and go cry yourself to sleeo. It is all finally over now. Done. FINI. You can never bring it up again now...EVER!

https://www.newsweek.com/hillary-clinton-cleared-wrongdoing-private-email-probe-1466426

 
 
 
JBB
6.5.13  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @6.5.9    4 weeks ago

BULLSHIT! It was Trump's and Barr's Justice Department that just cleared Hillary Clinton of any wrongdoing regarding her private email. If you are unaware it is because you have chosen to be ignorant...

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/18/us/politics/state-dept-inquiry-clinton-emails.html

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
7  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 weeks ago

Here come the fake news fluffers!

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
8  seeder  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    4 weeks ago

Flip on the TV, Hillary is using her southern black woman accent at the Elija Cummings memorial

Bizarre!

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1  MUVA  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @8    4 weeks ago

She is down for the struggle just ask her yo.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
8.2  Greg Jones  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @8    4 weeks ago

I hope she "ain't noways tired"  

 
 
 
evilgenius
8.3  evilgenius  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @8    4 weeks ago
Flip on the TV, Hillary is using her southern black woman accent at the Elija Cummings memorial Bizarre!

Its the dumbest thing she can't seem to stop doing. She can't help herself. It's like Joe making up shit stories...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
8.3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  evilgenius @8.3    4 weeks ago

Joe's a goofy goner, Bernie's got one foot in the great hereafter, and old Auntie Liz is too extreme for practically everyone.

Hillary's now the leader of the pack, and she's got a lot of experience dealing with Trump.

Why don't they run AOC. She's cute and has lots of experience in all areas

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.3.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @8.3.1    4 weeks ago
Joe's a goofy goner, Bernie's got one foot in the great hereafter, and old Auntie Liz is too extreme for practically everyone.

They know it too - thus they keep returning to "impeachment."

Hillary's now the leader of the pack, and she's got a lot of experience dealing with Trump.

And much experience with losing!  along with sleaziness!  I don't think they have the stomach for her again.

Why don't they run AOC. 

Not old enough - You need to be an adult to run.

 
 
 
evilgenius
8.3.3  evilgenius  replied to  Greg Jones @8.3.1    4 weeks ago
Joe's a goofy goner, Bernie's got one foot in the great hereafter, and old Auntie Liz is too extreme for practically everyone.

Mostly true.

Hillary's now the leader of the pack, and she's got a lot of experience dealing with Trump.

If the Dems run Hillary again they've truely jumped the shark. She's a liability. 

Why don't they run AOC. She's cute and has lots of experience in all areas

The Progressives are small, albeit vocal, part of the party and the Left-Center/Independents make up way more voting power and they don't give two shits about the pie-in-the-sky fantasy land of Progressives any more than you guys on the right. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.3.4  XDm9mm  replied to  evilgenius @8.3.3    4 weeks ago
The Progressives are small, albeit vocal, part of the party and the Left-Center/Independents make up way more voting power and they don't give two shits about the pie-in-the-sky fantasy land of Progressives any more than you guys on the right

The biggest problem is that the "Left-Center" and moderates currently in office are petrified of AOC and her posse.  If they don't conform to the AOC insanity, they know that AOC and her comrades in arms will do all in their power to force the incumbent into a primary against others like AOC.  And no sane rational Democrat wants to get into a pissing match with the current darling of the far left extremists and media.

 
 
 
katrix
8.3.5  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @8.3.4    4 weeks ago

That's not a silly concern - look what the Tea Party did to the GOP.

Kind of astonishing, but there we are.

 
 
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