Well damn looks like Trump again was smarter than a bunch of 'highly intelligent' TDS sufferers.

Where did President Donald Trump mention the world, " ozone " or " ozone therapy " together in Thursday's press briefing ?  Is this another instance of surrogates enabling the boss by attempting to change the narrative? What? Trump is too stupid to use the ozone properly in a press briefing?

Somebody had to scrounge up a distinct and separate methodology to make a "fake" linkage to the Thursday press briefing ridiculous disinfectant and light therapy fantasy story?

You get a prize alright. But not the one you hoped. 

Here let's try this:

"So supposing we hit the body with a tremendous — whether it's ultraviolet or just a very powerful light — and I think you said that hasn't been checked because of the testing," Trump said, speaking to Bryan during the briefing. "And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too."

He added: "I see the disinfectant that knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning ? As you see, it gets in the lungs, it does a tremendous number on the lungs, so it would be interesting to check that."

He didn't specify the kind of disinfectant.

Yes, "Leader" Trump meant what he said. He actually stated this by way of proof:

"and I think you said that hasn't been checked because of the testing ," Trump said, speaking to Bryan during the briefing. " And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or some other way, and I think you said you're going to test that, too."

Proof positive this was not "off the cuff" remarks. Trump has discussed ultraviolet-or a very powerful light-with BRYAN prior to this briefing.

See below for light therapy.

Ozone therapy is considered a disinfectant again see below.

He didn't specify the kind of disinfectant.

I know right? So retarded TDS sufferers think he said to drink bleach, fucking Hillaryious isn't it?

Slick but no cigar. More proof of why people do not speak in double-talk when the press briefing is formal. My brainy quote*:

You can blow smoke up some of the people all of the time, and blow smoke up all of the people some of the time,
but you can not blow smoke up all of the people all of the time.”

* Modified. Orginal quote attributed to Abe Lincoln.

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See below for light therapy.

Light therapy is not Ozone therapy. Light therapy is UV light. Ozone is what protects us from too much UV light. 

Ozone therapy is considered a disinfectant again see below.

It can also be deadly for those with asthma.

Light therapy is not Ozone therapy.

Who said it was? In Trumps press briefing that triggered all the TDS sufferers into saying he said to drink bleach he also talked about using UV to kill the virus inside the body.

also talked about using UV to kill the virus inside the body

no comment

thenewstalkers

That is the most unsettling thing I have seen in a long time. And, I am not sure how I feel about it. Even as art!

In medicine, ozone therapy is used to disinfect and treat conditions by disinfecting the area around them, improving the body's intake and use of oxygen, and activating the immune system.

OMG TRUMP. 

I love when the TDS sufferers look as stupid as they are.

Court Halts Dallas Health Center From Promoting Ozone Therapy As ‘Only Prevention’ For Coronavirus

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However, to date, ozone therapy is not approved by the FDA and is only considered to be an experimental treatment. ^[3] Here’s why…

Disadvantages of Ozone Therapy

Ozone therapy is not widely used in the clinical setting. One reason for this is because it has an odd number of atoms, which makes it unstable and unpredictable. Ozone has a capacity to oxidize organic compounds and has well-known toxic effects on the respiratory system when present in smog.

The American Cancer Society reports that “… few rigorous clinical trials of the treatment exist. Those that have been published demonstrated no evidence of effect… Until more positive evidence emerges, ozone therapy should be avoided.” ^[4]

In an adverse event report issued by the FDA in 2007, a doctor treated a family member who had ovarian cancer with ozone therapy of the blood. The treatment involved removing 250 milliliters (mm) of blood from the patient which was “ozonated” with 250 ml of ozone and then returned to the patient. This procedure was repeated three days in a row, every two weeks for three cycles over a period of one month. After the first set of three treatments, the patient complained of worsening symptoms including a decrease in her urinary output and abdominal discomfort. The doctor attributed these symptoms to the death of cancer cells and reassured the patient that everything was fine. Meanwhile, the patient’s urinary output continued to decrease and the patient steadily declined. After the third set of ozone treatments, the patient awoke from sleep with abdominal cramping, nausea and vomiting and had to be admitted to the hospital. After a three week hospital stay during which she was treated for a small bowel obstruction and gastrointestinal bleeding, the patient died. ^[5]

Conclusion

Ozone is good. Ozone is bad. Ozone is useless when it comes to viral infections. Ozone is an effective antiviral. You only have to do a search on the internet to discover the many contradictory claims about ozone therapy. With so many inconsistent statements, who are you to believe? Because research on ozone has mixed results and ozone therapy is not yet approved by the FDA, it’s best to talk to your doctor before seeking any type of treatment with ozone.

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What is your point? You found a bad review for ozone therapy....you go you.

It still doesn't negate the fact that the triggered TDS sufferers have been going nuts because Trump said they should inject them with a disinfectant or something.

And there is a actual procedure that proves they do.

But hey, thanks for looking up your own source to prove that President Trump was correct.  You even proved they have been experimenting with it for coronavirus. Your awesome.

Sorry, I thought it was a good topic worthy of serious consideration of both sides of the topic.

I didn't realize that you could not stop being you for even one article.

By the way,

I would edit the seed to remove the the two references to Pinterest  which are not part of the original article

and might seem detrimental to the seriousness of the seed.

Just my 2 cents.

I didn't realize that you could not stop being you for even one article.

Oh how cute, You be you.

Like who the fuck is someone going to be. If I was you I wouldn't make it a habit of trying to use Dulays pathetic zingers.

Oh so that is how/why that is there! I found it distracting and confusing.

SP, the headline of your article says it all....

Court Halts Dallas Health Center From Promoting Ozone Therapy As ‘Only Prevention’ For Coronavirus

If this health center is promoting Ozone as the ONLY prevention, then there is good reason for the courts to stop the promotion.

There are other prevention, like social distancing, face masks, stay home, etc. Not all of them are perfect, but they are all prevention.

I understand, but the article does start out by also noting that the FDA does not approve of " Ozone therapy" and considers it an experimental treatment.

The article was fairly unbiased and as the seeder noted it does support his seed to a degree.

I think his issue is in assuming that I was automatically opposed to his position or trying to embarrass him somehow.

Neither the article or my position was partisan.

Nor are the other links I used below.

Thank you for your thoughtful comment.

Didn't you go fishing the other day?  Catch anything?

Yea we went fishing. Went to a little city park called Sister's Creek. Not known for big stuff but we did get some spot and I'm pretty sure I got a couple of illegal Mangrove Snapper, but I ain't tellin no one.

I had to go to a tackle shop to get more leads and saw 2 Fish and Wildlife trucks parked at the next bridge up from where we were. Kept my eyes peeled all day

I think Wednesday we will go to Vilano Beach pier which is on the intracoastal. Bigger fish and a better variety.

It still doesn't negate the fact that the triggered TDS sufferers have been going nuts because Trump said they should inject them with a disinfectant or something.

How about being factual. He was referring to bleach and other disinfectants. He never mentioned ozone therapy. That is bit of a stretch... and btw, in his usual fashion, he took it back the next day by saying he was being sarcastic. 

Hi Perrie! Trump flip-flopped. And as is his custom: Trump lied to the 'American people.' Even in this he simply can not be intellectually honest. No wonder Hollywood and high-society can't relate to this shady character.

The smart democrat will put all his these indulgences by the "stable genius" in a campaign ad/s. Trump's surrogates, ever mindful of damage control, must have gotten through to him that this one is going to resonate across the country (if done the justice it deserves). Mr. Bloomberg? I hope you gets this "memo."

As to that "TDS"/ "ODS" thing that KDMichigan seems to think is making a splash in the liberal thinking man and woman: yeah, not so much.

bleach

I could be wrong, but I don't think he ever said bleach. The media and the left injected that.

You have to admit that maybe somebody mentioned ozone or some other therapy to him that can use injection as a method of delivery, didn't really know the name or understand it, but did understand that it could "disinfect" the body of COVID.

The negative of this is he didn't understand the concept and should have just let it be until something concrete came out.

The positive is he is trying everything he can to save American lives and to talk about possibilities instead of outright dismissing them, as the media has.....just because....... Trump

Good one!

He never mentioned ozone therapy.

Show me where he mentioned bleach.

He specifically said disinfectant. In common usage:

merriam-webster

In medical usage:

disinfectant

 [ dis″in-fek´tant ]

In medicine, ozone therapy is used to disinfect and treat conditions by disinfecting the area around them, improving the body's intake and use of oxygen, and activating the immune system.

I'm sorry, but most medical people, never mind a lay person never heard of Ozone therapy. They think of what I just posted. Those are the common usages in both medicine and every day. And if the president meant Ozone therapy, he should have said that, as in for example:

"Dr. Birx, can ozone therapy be used as a disinfectant in the body?"

You know, like he did with hydroxychloroquine. He said what he meant. 

You're using the word as the article uses it, which is now how it's used in medicine. 

"Activating the immune system" is another phrase often associated with pseudoscience in medicine.  Most people with science backgrounds recognize that as a signal that we need to take an article's claims with a grain of salt.

And if the president meant Ozone therapy, he should have said that, as in for example:

I understand you have a hatred/dislike of Trump no matter what. You don't have a clue what President Trump has heard. I'll look for Dr. Birx response to the press when they where working on the Trump said to drink bleach story and she defended him. She basically said that that is what he does throw out ideas.

You know, like he did with hydroxychloroquine.

And since then we have heard how bad that is for you even though it is a drug that is in use for other ailments. FFS you got democrats censuring a Democrat because she said the drug helped her. 

ozonesolutions

lenntech

thailandmedical.news

wqpmag

Yes we have already had your input that does nothing to dispute the fact that Ozone can be administered to the body and disinfect it. 

You know your first link is to a site selling this stuff, yes?  Not exactly unbiased.  But it's about surface disinfection, which has not been in dispute.

The second is about surface disinfection.  Same for the third.  The fourth is about disinfecting water.

I understand you have a hatred/dislike of Trump no matter what.

First of all, I don't hate anyone, except maybe Hitler and Stalin. I'm glad you put that if or statement in there. I started off disliking both Hillary and him, and hence why I didn't vote for her or him. But now I have disdain, and that is because he earned it. I watched the first viewing of him saying that statement and poor Dr. Brix looked like a deer in the headlights, so I know she had no idea he would go there. 

And since then we have heard how bad that is for you even though it is a drug that is in use for other ailments.

I knew about that drug over 20 years ago, before my cousin went on safari to Africa. It caused him to have a nervous breakdown that required months of treatment. This was already a known side effect (though not common) of the drug. Despite that, I actually wanted the drug to work. Why wouldn't I? You think I like knowing people suffering or dying when there was a possible medicine that could provide some relief?

3 0f 4 are company websites that sell ozone equipment

Sort like linking Ford commercials that say Ford is the best vehicle, slightly biased.

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How about being factual. He was referring to bleach and other disinfectants.

I agree, let's be factual.  Here is a bit more of what he actually said after listening to expert Dr. William Bryan explain the research they have been doing with respect to the effects of UV light, heat and humidity on the viability of the virus:

Trump, April 23 : A question that probably some of you are thinking of if you’re totally into that world, which I find to be very interesting. So, supposing we hit the body with a tremendous, whether it’s ultraviolet or just very powerful light, and I think you said that hasn’t been checked, but you’re going to test it. And then I said supposing you brought the light inside the body, which you can do either through the skin or in some other way. And I think you said you’re going to test that too. Sounds interesting, right? And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute . And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me. So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute . That’s pretty powerful

So he was addressing the disinfecting capabilities of UV light as was presented by Dr. Bryan and how quickly it could kill the virus, in one minute, repeated 3 times.  Nowhere does he mention bleach or other chemicals as the "disinfectant" to which he was referring in the sentences between.  He was talking more likely about something like THIS (See video on this page) , although a prototype and not yet approved of course as a treatment for Covid-19. But you don't often see those last two sentences of what he actually said in any article that claims that the President was suggesting that people inject or ingest dangerous disinfectants like bleach.  

The full video of the briefing is HERE , be sure to hear Mr. Bryan's entire presentation prior to President Trump's child-like remarks starting at about the 20 minute mark.  I have found that listening to the entire context, rather than just carefully selected snippets can help one understand what Trump is saying because quite often he is far less than clear.  But in this case, he was clearly NOT referring to bleach and other disinfectants, and he was most certainly not suggesting that anyone should inject or ingest such chemicals. 

Having said that, the very real fact remains that all of this speculating with regard to what he said could be avoided if he simply wouldn't ask such questions of his experts in front of a media he knows is counting on him to say something that they can sensationalize.  Zip it and let your experts do the talking would be my advice to the President, were I in a position to offer such advice.

FFS you got democrats censuring a Democrat because she said the drug helped her.

True, but for clarification, she got censured because she thanked President Trump for putting it in the forefront and allowing her to request it from her doctor, .

Democrat platform is "Hate ALL things Trump".

You're using the word as the article uses it, which is now how it's used in medicine. 

Because the great toothsayer Sandy says so it cant be true. Even my 1st article says it used to disinfect the body.

So I changed the wording of my search to ozone therapy used to disinfect the body....

healthline

fullcirclehealthokc

doctorshealthpress

But wait we have the all knowing toothsayer that says it not used like that, I'm so conflicted I don't know what to think. I guess President Trump Should replace Dr. Fauci with the all knowing toothsayer because she can tell scientist they are wasting there time experimenting on cures of COVID19 before they try because she know.

You're blaming me for knowing what words mean?

Ok.

So he was addressing the disinfecting capabilities of UV light as was presented by Dr. Bryan and how quickly it could kill the virus, in one minute, repeated 3 times.  Nowhere does he mention bleach or other chemicals as the "disinfectant" to which he was referring in the sentences between. 

No Trump was not talking about the disinfecting properties of UV light!

And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute, one minute . And is there a way we can do something like that by injection inside or almost a cleaning, because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it’d be interesting to check that. So that you’re going to have to use medical doctors with, but it sounds interesting to me.

<<At the last period insert a Pause.>>

So, we’ll see, but the whole concept of the light, the way it kills it in one minute . That’s pretty powerful.

This is what Trump stated. It is too separate discussions mashed together.

Now then, later in the video Trump does self-correct in a blotched way: (See here on C-Span)

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=youtube%3a+jonathan+karl+ask+about+disinfectant+injection&docid=13845072672263&mid=2ECFD5EECF744E1C16E82ECFD5EECF744E1C16E8&view=detail&FORM=VIRE

Note that Dr. Bryan states without any sarcasm that 'our labs don't test disinfectants' or words to that effect. To which Trump over the press speaking, says this:

"Not through an injection, we're talking about the cleaning or sterilization of an area. . . maybe it works maybe it does not." Or words to that effect.

Note Trump still does clear up that he is not talking about the inside of the body, thus the mention of "medical doctors with" because it is internal of a body.

Trump wants somebody to look into it. Other wise, why suggest that disinfectants work on the outside of the body.

Then the most bold of lies is issued the following day when Trump says he was talking about disinfecting hands - as if anybody would need him to tell them that. People have been cleansing and disinfecting their hands since the start of this pandemic.

Here is the video of the LIE:

Trump is a practiced liar, but a liar all the same. It is why people won't give him the benefit of the doubt! He does little to deserve it!

I have be wondering if ozone might be helpful with this.  

My daughter, who dislikes Trump immensely, brought it to my attention. She is a nurse....kinda.  She hypothesized that someone may have mentioned it to him as a treatment and that is what he was referring too. 

There is also a technique they are experimenting on where they blast the inside of the ventilator tubes with UV light...Go figure.

But yeah we get the Trump said to drink Bleach hyperbole.

One story says the idea is caca.

seattletimes

the next promises great results in crowded interior spaces.

news.columbia

the truth may be somewhere in between.

Note. I used to use Ultraviolet "therapy" in large marine aquariums and all I could see was the electric bill and the lamp replacement costs.  When I switched to 100% LED lighting I disconnected the UV system and there were no detrimental effects only savings.

Ultraviolet blood therapy has been proven "useful" in 22 week clinical  trials for hepatitis but is still not FDA approved.

Virus victims might not have 22 weeks but the procedure could be ramped up by using dialysis equipment.

Just a thought

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One story says the idea is caca.

And some people still believe the world is flat.

I used to use Ultraviolet "therapy" in large marine aquariums

I've never had to do that to mine, I just try and keep up with the water changes. LED is by far the best way to go, albeit a little costly on the upfront, but you're right, the savings can be seen right away.

At a place I worked, we had a big koi pond--about 11,000 gallons. We had a system that ran the water through an ultra-violet light.

Seemed to work pretty good controlling the algae.

That's true. It does. AC companies use the same technique with AC units to eliminate mold in air conditioning systems.

As far as tanks are concerned, I think that if you have good water flow, that by itself will keep down the algae.

It's generally used topically, not injected.  It was tried intravenously as a treatment for HIV, without success.

ncbi.nlm.nih

Ozone had shown promise in in vitro testing. Ozone was seen effective at disinfecting extracorporeal blood samples of HIV; unfortunately for AIDS patients, 03-AHT proved to be an in vivo ineffective treatment[ 14 – 15 ] [ Table 1 ].

It is NOT used as in injection in dentistry, as far as I can find.  Some dentists use ozonated oils or ozonated water to prevent dry socket or promote healing of incisions and lesions, and some use it to disinfect cavity preps before filling, but those don't require injection.  Another commonly-used medicine has been shown more effective in reducing microbial growth in cavity preps.

ncbi.nlm.nih ncbi.nlm.nih

t's generally used topically, not injected.

Because you say so?

Ozone therapy may be applied through injection, and can be used to treat a range of health problems.

I'm sure highly intelligent people don't have to read my article because you know they have been spewing President Trump said to drink bleach all day.

Although ozone is a gas, developments in technology mean it can be used in several forms and different ways, including:
ozonated olive oil applied directly to the body
insufflation, a risky therapy where ozone is blown into the rectum
ozonated water, which is drunk
injections, which are often used in dentistry
autohemotherapy, where blood is withdrawn, mixed with ozone, and put back into the bloodstream
gas bath or sauna

Ozone therapy may be applied through injection, and can be used to treat a range of health problems.

"May be" doesn't mean "generally is".  Most of the uses you have listed are topical.  Well, there's the blowing it up the rectum - that takes dedication.

Generally speaking, when a treatment is supposed to "purify blood and lymph", "normalize hormone and enzyme production", and "clean arteries and veins", one should really start to question the veracity of the information.  They generally accompany pseudoscience, and this source is known for letting pseudoscience pass.

Because you say so?

Yes, any questions I have about dentistry procedures and practices will always go to her first.

If I have a building question about carpentry or codes I will be sure to call  someone like you,

not her.

How many manufacturers back your claims?

Spin sputter and nutter butter sandwiches. 

Fact Ozone therapy is used to disinfect the body, internally. 

Should I post a Jesus article for you?

Yes, any questions I have about dentistry procedures and practices will always go to her first.

WTF does that have to do with anything? If she was so damn smart she might have tossed out the idea that maybe someone mentioned Ozone therapy to the President, not that he was telling people to drink bleach. I myself would pass on any Dentist that thought that way.

If she was so damn smart she might have tossed out the idea that maybe someone mentioned Ozone therapy to the President,

Why bother, you already credited your own daughter with that hypothesis.

  not that he was telling people to drink bleach.

More BS? Please point out where anyone on this seed said anything about bleach besides you at 3.1.

By all means though stoke the imaginary hatred and sabotage your own seed.

It's kind of entertaining in a sad sort of way.

It's kind of entertaining in a sad sort of way.

not that he was telling people to drink bleach

Quote of me saying this?

I do have to hand it to you though, when you self destruct, you do it biggly.

Stay safe.

Quote of me saying this?

hahaha nice try.

So Sandy how many times today have you ridiculed people and mocked Trump for saying disinfect the body? But you are so knowledgeable now about Ozone therapy that is considered disinfecting the body. Hillaryious.

Why bother, you already credited your own daughter with that hypothesis.

Yup.

So, there is some speculation that unproven and possibly dangerous "therapies" were proposed to Trump, and anybody who didn't speculate that he was actually referring to these unproven and possibly dangerous therapies (which is somehow a good thing) isn't smart?

Other folks have been speculating, too:

In his letter, Mark Grenon told Trump that chlorine dioxide – a powerful bleach used in industrial processes such as textile manufacturing that can have fatal side-effects when drunk – is “a wonderful detox that can kill 99% of the pathogens in the body”. He added that it “can rid the body of Covid-19”. A few days after Grenon dispatched his letter, Trump went on national TV at his daily coronavirus briefing at the White House on Thursday and promoted the idea that disinfectant could be used as a treatment for the virus. To the astonishment of medical experts, the US president said that disinfectant “knocks it out in a minute. One minute!”

The guardian?

Why bother, you already credited your own daughter with that hypothesis.

WTF does my daughter have to do with someone that is supposedly a professional Ozone therapy master that doesn't know it is considered a disinfectant.

I do have to hand it to you though, when you self destruct, you do it biggly

Self destruct? Is that what you call refuting your B.S,?

Let me know when that happens.  I posted several links; some support your "theory" and some refute it.

I was trying to be serious and you assumed a partisan defensive position

and turned your own seed into an unnecessary shit show,

in my opinion.

That kid needs an orthodontist, LOL. 

All Grown Up

....er,.... if you say so........ in a red state I guess.......

Still young enough for Joe Biden to grope on her.

In the seeded article, it specifically states that it is normally used in gaseous form, but can be used in other forms, such as...

"injections, which are often used in dentistry"

I don't see why if something shows promise, there is no reason why, if someone is literally on their death bed, we can't throw the kitchen sink at them.

The problem is the left dismisses everything the president says, so the media refuses to report on the positives of what some of these treatments may give.

Yes, gaseous would be topical, unless one is having it blown up one's rectum, as alluded to in the article

It is not used in an injectable form in dentistry.

The whole reason this article was seeded was in response to Trump's wondering whether we could inject a disinfectant into a person.  It was speculated by the seeder that maybe he meant ozone.  And that speculation is all we have to go on for an explanation - somebody saying "Maybe this is what he was talking about."

The problem is the left dismisses everything the president says

The man wanted to nuke hurricanes, and thought a "solid" flu vaccine would prevent Covid-19 infection.  There is ample reason to dismiss his speculations (or what somebody speculates might have been his speculations) about possible medical treatments.  Especially potentially deadly ones.  Leave it to the medical doctors.

It is not used in an injectable form in dentistry.

The information saying it is a form of injection is in the article. I know nothing of dentistry, so I can't say yea or nay to that.

You know, if the media would simply flip the way they cover the President, we would all be for the better.

They dismiss everything positive he has done for this country, yet go all out stupid when he makes unfounded claims.

If only they would reverse that mindset.

One of the participants in this exchange is a dentist.  The rest are just patients. lol.

Sandy is a dentist?

Didn't know that.

Maybe that's why I experience so much pain when she deletes my comments...

I know nothing of dentistry, so I can't say yea or nay to that.

I'm a dentist.  Just in case there was something I'd completely missed, I searched dental websites about ozone therapy.  I'd heard of it being used before, but everything I could find was what I'd already been informed of.  It's used topically or as an irrigant, but it's not injected.  It's considered to be an "alternative" treatment.  Reputable dentists use it and say they have good results with it, but that's anecdotal.  Randomized trials support more conventional methods.

The media is doing their job.  There is no reason they should gloss over his gaffes.  Let Fox put a positive spin on it.

Not true, actually.  There are MD/DMD programs at some universities, or at least there used to be one at the University of Alabama.

And your pyramid is incorrect.  Dentists take more science in pre-med (yes, most of us are pre-med or biology majors) than nurses, and unlike my PA sister, nobody has to sign off on my prescriptions, nor do I need to have anyone supervise my work.

The problem is the left dismisses everything the president says, so the media refuses to report on the positives of what some of these treatments may give.

The MEDIA was not having a discussion with President D. Trump about "gaseous-injections." That is something that has 'weeded' itself into our discussion. For clarity sake, President Trump asked about 'ultraviolet light and other lights' and disinfectants, whereupon he did not hint at ozone therapy in any recognizable or significant way.

Futhermore, it is not media's responsibility to aid Trump in making sense. It is to report and to clarify beforehand.

Therefore, if you ask a bungling and combative. . .person. . .to elaborate further on a point they are making and said individual sticks to his or her talking points or "narrative statement" - that is what will be used as breaking news, headlines, and material for whatever come after.

It is good Trump has halted his disastrous press briefings. He needed some time off. Because the reporters were not buying his loose treatment of facts and open-ended malarkey.

The MEDIA was not having a discussion with President D. Trump about "gaseous-injections.

You picked one thing out of many things over the years.

What are you going to do when Trump once again takes the oath of office January 20, 2021?

BTW...I see you used the liberal tactic to say I said something I never did, then try and get me to argue something I never said.

What I said was (take notes), that if the media spent less times on some of what he says and more on what he does, this country would be far better for it.....well, except for the hard core TDS sufferers.

Thanks for clarifying the injection portion.

As far as Trump, they don't need to gloss over what he says, but they need to not spend so much time on what he says and more time on the positive things he has done, not only for his COVID handling, but for the past 3 and a half years also.

Therapists

Two ways to look at this..I'm either at the bottom, or I am part of what holds everything else up.

If the media would simply flip the way they cover the President, we would all be for the better. They dismiss everything positive he has done for this country, yet go all out stupid when he makes unfounded claims.

The media as an organization is not anybody in particular's friend. Donald Trump became president slamming the media, siccing his rally crowds on the media, and calling out the media any time he liked—rightly or wrongly (mostly, wrongly counted). The surest way to not get bad press is to shut his big fat mouth about subject matter he is not up to date on; stop his obsessive  lying, and end his galling appetite for being the center of this nation's life.

In other words, just do a good job and leave the BS off. But who are we kidding after nearly four years. Trump's voting bloc hired him to talk shit, carry a big stick, and pat his big "fanny" in liberal faces.

Trump's positive economy is under heavy attack by a microbe. The media did not create or position COVID-19 to injury or disrespect President Donald Trump. It is Trump's stupid fault that he has no 'built-in' good will with the larger citizenry. He attacked and disrespected anybody who dared to stand up to his shenanigans: let him get whatever it is he has politically coming to him.

Trump's voting bloc hired him to talk shit, carry a big stick, and pat his big "fanny" in liberal faces.

Much like those who voted for Obama did so to those evil racist conservatives for the exact same reason.

As far as the rest, I can agree that he needs to tone it down, let the professionals handle his press briefings, however, the media should tone down the disrespect towards the office. The respectful way to acknowledge that you have been called on by the President is to respond with "Thank you, Mr President". Sometimes, rarely we hear that. Most other times we hear "Yea, uh".

"In other words, just do a good job and leave the BS off"

Can't disagree with this, but it goes both ways.

4.2  bugsy  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4    2 hours ago

The left dismisses everything the president says, so the media refuses to report on the positives of what some of these treatments may give.

First of all the "Left" does not dismiss everything ANYBODY says as this discussion alone illustrates.

Second, as to the media against in discussion about what sticks up as questionable, the Negative ("the stupid" "the wrong" "the ignorant") will get its fair share of if not the most airing. In addition, the negative gets full coverage when a lying, manipulative president and his surrogates try to tell reasonable professionals and reasonable citizens they did not hear or read or discern what is explicitly before them.

Lastly, you could spend better quality time telling your boss, Donald Trump, to spend less time talking and more time doing and maybe he would not have had his non-apologetic and sorry behind on the rally route trolling democrats and tossing out conspiracy theories and misleading pronouncements about fake coronavirus hoaxes.

Your problem is your boss, Donald Trump, not me, not NT, and damn sure not the media.

It does go both ways: respect does that it. Trump likes "yes men and women."  I have no concept of how he thought to come to Washington D.C. and dazzle the media into forgetting their journalistic integrity and history.

Respect works both ways. Trump needs to accept that the media is not now or ever will be in need of a single "father figure." If that is not clear enough: translation: Trump can not do what he wants to anybody he wishes while president - he is discovering this as this virus does not 'listen up' well and the media is taking down notes of the activities.

econd, as to the media against in discussion about what sticks up as questionable, the Negative ("the stupid" "the wrong" "the ignorant") will get its fair share of if not the most airing.

Not true. I pointed out yesterday that Obama said quite a bit of stupid crap over the years and the media glossed over each and every one, even going to the extreme of spinning what he said to make it look positive.

"Lastly, you could spend better quality time telling your boss"

Hate to tell you this but my ONLY boss wakes up with me in the morning, no one else.

Maybe you just got confused with Obama being your messiah and wanted to project that to someone else.

I'm done with you. ,

I knew of President Obama and I know of President Trump and let me assure you Trump is not Obama!

I'm done with you, too.

(Is there an echo in this room?)

Trump is not Obama!

Thank God!!!

It's from the big bang theory...did i mix it up? I think I got it right...

Do you generally get your facts from sit-coms?

Sandy is very good at what she does

Thank you, charger.

Please do not start inhaling ozone, you will die. 

Ozone is safe and effective if used in a controlled method. As a gas ozone will kill you, full stop. In other forms (mostly aqueous) it is very effective as a sanitizer for everything from door handles to vegies, provided it is concentrated in a safe medium.

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Please do not drink or inject it.

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As a gas ozone will kill you,

To much oxygen can kill you...

To much oxygen can kill you

That is true. I work with patients with COPD and are on O2. Their O2 levels are set to ensure their levels remain above 92 or 93 percent. Sometimes these patients think they need a higher amount and turn their O2 up several levels above what is limited.

I don't know how many times I have had to educate the dangers of receiving too much oxygen.

Oddly that is the same with pure water produced by reverse osmosis. It will kill you, painfully.

I've heard that too, which brings me to the obvious...

Drink more beer.

Although I will confess to being a bit contrary, I bought a case of Corona just to help them out

and I grabbed the Premium thinking it was better? than the "regular" Corona,

when the bride saw it she said, Why did you buy watered down lite beer?

LOL ya gotta love it: An entire seed devoted to obliquely defending rump's quackery!

So kind of the opposite of a whole seed dedicated to President Trump said to drink bleach?

When I ran operations and maintenance at a private school we had a small Ozone generator, it was useful when things got wet and for removing odors.  I put in the budget for a bigger one but it always got cut.   

it was useful when things got wet and for removing odors. 

Absolutely 110%

I operated a pet shop many years ago and I bred all sorts of finches in addition to my many fresh water breeding projects

and marine aquariums and snakes and mangrove plants and tubs and tubs of live rock.

( lots of loose crickets and moths, )

I initially bought one of those ozone creating electronic air fresheners to defeat cigarette smoke and cooking odors but everyone groused about the "smell of lightning".  So I bought an even bigger one which we still use occasionally.

But they really worked great in the pet shop and my breeding shop and around salt water aquariums in defeating that zoo odor.

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