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Reddit and Elon Musk's GameStop stock rocket: This 'insane' 'Ponzi scheme' can't last

  

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Via:  john-russell  •  3 years ago  •  2 comments

By:   Ian Sherr (CNET)

Reddit and Elon Musk's GameStop stock rocket: This 'insane' 'Ponzi scheme' can't last
Anonymous social media investors are claiming multimillion-dollar paydays while Wall Street funds lose billions. Experts say it can't last.

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GameStop shareholders are watching piles of cash come in. But for how long?

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Many of today's young adults spent their youths in GameStop stores, lining up for new consoles, as well as buying and selling used video games. Now some of those people are making a fortune buying the company's stock and cheerleading their friends on Reddit to buy more of it too.

Though GameStop itself hasn't fundamentally changed much in the past month, its stock has shot up more than $9,700% -- that's not a typo. This dynamic has led Wall Street investors who bet against the company's future to lose billions of dollars, and the excitement is driving the hype even further.

Over the past week, the finance world watched in shock as GameStop stock rose to unthinkable levels. On Wednesday afternoon, the stock hovered around $325 per share, up from from historic lows of around $3.30 per share in the summer of 2019. Even Elon Musk tweeted about it, pointing his 43 million followers to a link of the Reddit community investing in GameStop.


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"We're seeing a phenomenon that I have never seen," Jim Cramer, a Wall Street commentator on CNBC and a former hedge fund manager, said during a segment Monday. And GameStop could be just the start. "It's insane."

This may seem like an oddball story about Wall Street investors being overrun by excited social media users. For some, it's been fun to watch those investors get taken to the cleaners by a bunch of people posting rocket emojis, saying GameStop shares will go "to the moon."

Reddit users are betting they can take GameStop shares "to the moon."

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But for some on Wall Street, it's the latest sign of how social media can upend everyday life. Twitter has changed the worlds of news and politics. YouTube and Instagram have transformed the fashion, beauty and entertainment industries. Now Reddit is taking on Wall Street.

These worlds have overlapped as well. Fans of Korean pop groups, known as K-pop stans, post floods of tweets about their favorite stars to overwhelm racist hashtags on Twitter. And TikTokers banded together in attempts to confuse President Donald Trump's reelection campaign.

Now emboldened Reddit communities are talking about taking on other companies that Wall Street is broadly betting against. The Reddit crowd is already attempting to push up BlackBerry, the once-popular handset maker that now focuses primarily on selling business software. And Redditors are also targeting the struggling movie chain AMC, pushing its stock from hovering around $2 per share to more than $8 in after-hours trading. By Wednesday it was hovering around $17 per share.

The Reddit community's actions have had such an impact that TD Ameritrade took the extraordinary step to limit share trading on Game Stop and AMC stocks, "out of an abundance of caution amid unprecedented market conditions." Nasdaq as well warned it will halt trading on stocks it thinks are being manipulated by social media.

Meantime, traffic to the Reddit community at the center of the drama, WallStreetBets, is breaking records. WallStreetBets counted 73 million page views for its discussion boards on Tuesday, according to a report by Mashable. Over the past week, it's hit about 700 million pageviews. Reddit is already the 46th most popular site on the web, notching more than 78 million unique visitors in December, according to comScore.

But when the memes stop and the excitement goes away, GameStop will go back to being that struggling video game retailer at a time when gaming is increasingly moving toward streaming and the idea of stepping into a physical store is still a nerve-wracking prospect during a pandemic. At that point, stock analysts say, whoever's left holding shares will see their value evaporate.

"This is unnatural, insane and dangerous," Michael Burry, a prominent GameStop investor and one of the subjects of the book and movie The Big Short, wrote in a now-deleted tweet. His roughly $17 million investment in the company has ballooned to $250 million as of Tuesday, Markets Insider reported.

Many gamers spent their childhoods going to GameStop.


Michael Pachter, a longtime video game industry analyst at Wedbush Securities, said he hasn't even bothered to update his stock price expectations for GameStop since shares started going crazy last week. "Who's listening?" he said. "Nobody cares what a sell-side analyst says right now."

To him, there are reasonable explanations why people could be somewhat excited about GameStop. One of its newest board members, Ryan Cohen, helped turn Chewey into one of the largest online pet product sellers in the world, before selling it to PetSmart. GameStop's also on a track to being profitable again.

But that doesn't come close to explaining GameStop's share price now. "It's a Ponzi scheme," Pachter said, referring to a form of fraud that appears to make money but in fact is only propped up by funding from new investors. "There is a point where it'll go down."

He suspects that may happen after the company reports its quarterly results in March, at which point executives and investors on the board are allowed to sell their shares.

In the meantime, the social media hype is continuing on Reddit, where users are declaring their intention to buy and hold more GameStop shares, all to send prices even higher.

"My mom told me it's time to sell," one Reddit user wrote on a post about GameStop's stock moves. "Should I find a new mom?"

"Yes," another user answered. "The answer is yes."


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 years ago

As I understand it, a group from Reddit got together and bought enough stock in GameStop to make it's stock rise dramatically,  causing those "wise guys" on Wall St (hedge fund),  who had been betting on GameStop stock falling, to lose billions. And it was done intentionally for that purpose. Now it will be a question of who is holding the bag when the stock falls back to it's proper level, which is said to be about a 1/30th of what it is now. 

When the stock plunges I wonder if employees at that company will lose their jobs due to this "wall st" manipulation. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 years ago
der if employees at that company will lose their jobs due to this "wall st" manipulation. 

Not sure how that could happen. Returning to it's pre run up level shouldn't effect operations. 

The big losers are the hedge funds that shorted the stock. But they get bailout from their friends, so they'll be fine. 

 
 

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