Conservative Media Stalwart Says Trump Is Indeed Completely Delusional

  

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By:  john-russell  •  2 weeks ago  •  17 comments

Conservative Media Stalwart Says Trump Is Indeed Completely Delusional

The National Review famously said in 2016 that Trump was not fit for office and then spent the next four years making excuses for him. 



Now, in 2021 NR has a feature news story (not an op-ed) reporting that their sources indeed say that ex president Trump is delusional. 


The scale of Trump’s delusion is quite startling. This is not merely an eccentric interpretation of the facts or an interesting foible, nor is it an irrelevant example of anguished post-presidency chatter. It is a rejection of reality, a rejection of law, and, ultimately, a rejection of the entire system of American government.

How did the great nation of America get to the point where we have a mentally ill ex president making this much trouble?

Conservatism has grown gutless in the Trump era, believe it or not. 

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JohnRussell
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1  author  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

Donald Trump Belief That “Reinstatement” to Office Coming: Delusional | National Review

Two days ago, the  New York Times ’s Maggie Haberman  reported  that  Donald Trump  “has been telling a number of people he’s in contact with that he expects he will get reinstated by August.” In response, many figures on the right inserted their fingers into their ears and started screaming about fake news.

Instead, they should have listened — because Haberman’s reporting was correct. I can attest, from speaking to an array of different sources, that Donald Trump does indeed believe quite genuinely that he — along with former senators David Perdue and Martha McSally — will be “reinstated” to office this summer after “audits” of the 2020 elections in Arizona, Georgia, and a handful of other states have been completed. I can attest, too, that Trump is trying hard to recruit journalists, politicians, and other influential figures to promulgate this belief — not as a fundraising tool or an infantile bit of trolling or a trial balloon, but as a fact.

It will be tempting for weary conservatives to dismiss this information as “old news” or as “an irrelevance.” It will be tempting, too, to downplay the enormity of what is being claimed, or to change the subject, or to attack the messengers by implying that they must “hate” Trump and his voters. But such temptations should be assiduously avoided. We are not talking here about a fringe figure within the Republican tent, but about a man  who hopes  to make support for his outlandish claims “a litmus test of sorts as he decides whom to endorse for state and federal contests in 2022 and 2024.” Conservatives understand why it mattered that the press lost its collective mind over Russia after Trump’s fair-and-square victory in 2016. They understand why it mattered that Hillary Clinton  publicly described  Trump as an “illegitimate president” who had “stolen” the election. And they understand why it mattered that Jimmy Carter  insisted  that Trump had “lost the election” and been “put into office because the Russians interfered.” They should understand why this matters, too.

The scale of Trump’s delusion is quite startling. This is not merely an eccentric interpretation of the facts or an interesting foible, nor is it an irrelevant example of anguished post-presidency chatter. It is a rejection of reality, a rejection of law, and, ultimately, a rejection of the entire system of American government. There is no Reinstatement Clause within the United States Constitution. Hell, there is nothing even  approximating  a Reinstatement Clause within the United States Constitution. The election has been certified, Joe Biden is the president, and, until 2024, that is all there is to it. It does not matter what one’s view of Trump is. It does not matter whether one voted for or against Trump. It does not matter whether one views Trump’s role within the Republican Party favorably or unfavorably. We are talking here about cold, hard, neutral facts that obtain irrespective of one’s preferences; it is not too much to ask that the former head of the executive branch should understand them.

Just how far out there is Trump’s theory? Consider that, even if it were true that the 2020 election had been stolen — which it is absolutely not — his belief would  still  be absurd. It could be confirmed tomorrow that agents working for a combination of al-Qaeda, Venezuela, and George Soros had hacked into every single voting machine in the country and altered the totals by tens of millions, and it would remain the case there is no mechanism within the American legal order for a do-over of any sort. In such an eventuality, there would be indictments, an impeachment drive, and a constitutional crisis. But, however bad it got, Donald Trump would not be “reinstated” to the presidency. That is not how America works, how America has ever worked, or how America  can  ever work. American politicians do not lose their reelection races only to be reinstalled later on, as might the second-place horse in a race whose winner was disqualified. The idea is otherworldly and obscene.

There is nothing to be gained for conservatism by pretending otherwise. To acknowledge that Trump is living in a fantasy world does not wipe out his achievements or render anything else he has said incorrect. It does not endorse Joe Biden or hand the Republican Party over to Bill Kristol or knock down an inch of the wall on the border. It merely demands that Donald Trump be treated like any other person: subject to gravity, open to rebuttal, and liable to be laughed at when he becomes so unmoored from the real world that it is hard to know where to begin in attempting to explain him.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 weeks ago

This story, as blunt as it is , is really weak tea. The right has no intention of doing anything at all about this national calamity. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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2  Ronin2    2 weeks ago

Seems the left and media just can't let go of Trump. Of course with the POS currently in the White House with a D behind his name I can see why. They need Trump to take as much attention off of China Joe as possible.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago

The problem in this country is not Joe Biden , it is the millions of conservative cowards who will not confront Donald Trump, a mentally ill clown who is trying to bring this country to ruin. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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2.2  Hallux  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago

Oh, I know, that rag The National Review is such a leftist shit-sheet of Marxist propaganda.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Hallux @2.2    2 weeks ago

The National Review is not even offering this as an op-ed or an editorial. They are presenting it as hard news. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    2 weeks ago
They are presenting it as hard news.

Seems most in the press, and quite a few of our NT brethren, these days get a woody when Trump is mentioned.

Oh not that kind of hard news............never mind.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.2.3  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

Conservatives dont mind debasing themselves these days, which is all fealty to Donald Trump is. 

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @2    2 weeks ago
Seems the left and media just can't let go of Trump.

Actually it is Trump that won't let go.  His ego prevents him from realizing that he lost, so he refuses to slink away.

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3.1  bugsy  replied to  Ozzwald @2.3    2 weeks ago
His ego prevents him from realizing that he lost, so he refuses to slink away

I went back to look at some of your old posts, and I was unable to see where you said the same about Hillary.

Maybe you can direct me in the right direction of your posts that criticized her for rearing her ugly head 2016 to now, every time she thought it would benefit her.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.3.2  author  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @2.3.1    2 weeks ago

Trump lost the election seven months ago and is still telling people he will be reinstated any day now. His two main spokespeople about the election , Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani , are being sued for billions of dollars because they lied so blatantly about the election. 

Nothing like that occurred with Hillary Clinton and you have no credibility. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.3.3  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.2    2 weeks ago
you have no credibility.

Says the guy who posted hundreds, if not thousands, of "I hate Trump" seeds over the past 4 years, and does so even today....and has never shown proof of any of the accusations made.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.3.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.2    2 weeks ago

He is like the old man at a retirement home in an episode of the Twilight Zone.  He waits everyday with his suitcase for the son that never comes.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.3.5  Ozzwald  replied to  bugsy @2.3.1    2 weeks ago
I went back to look at some of your old posts, and I was unable to see where you said the same about Hillary.

2 problems.  

1 Hillary did concede, and did leave the public eye.  

2 show me where someone asked about that, for me to reply to.

Maybe you can direct me in the right direction of your posts that criticized her for rearing her ugly head 2016 to now

Wow, she appeared in interviews, where she was asked the questions.  Trump is just being his usual loud mouthed idiot, doing his best to insert himself where ever he can.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3  Hallux    2 weeks ago

" ... or hand the Republican Party over to Bill Kristol"

I don't see why not, he's a vast improvement over the 74,222,958 who voted for Donnie.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4  Greg Jones    2 weeks ago

Like I mentioned earlier, interest in Trump will slowly go away by years end...except for some isolated and obsessed far left loons. Early in 2022 possible Republican candidates will start going public

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.1  Gazoo  replied to  Greg Jones @4    2 weeks ago

Hopefully those repub candidates aren’t the old, romney, mccain, bush, types. If so repubs will not win the next national election.

 
 
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