The View's Joy Behar slams 'enemy' moderate Dems Kyrsten Sinema & Joe Manchin as they block Biden's $4.7tn spend spree
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Via: john-russell • 3 years ago • 50 commentsBy: The US Sun
THE View host Joy Behar slammed moderate Democratic Sens. Kyrsten Sinema, of Arizona and Joe Manchin, of West Virginia as the "ruination of the nation" and called them "the enemies" of democracy.
Behar accused both moderate senators of impeding President Joe Biden's $4.7trillion agenda and preventing a "strong Democratic coalition."
4Joy Behar slammed moderate Democratic Sens. Kyrsten Sinema, of Arizona and Joe Manchin, of West Virginia as "the enemies" of democracyCredit: Twitter / ABC4Behar aimed her frustration against Democratic Sen. Kyrsten Sinema, of Arizona and Sen. Joe Manchin of West Virginia for being "the ruination" of the nationCredit: Getty4Sen. Manchin has remained undecided and raised excessive fiscal spending concerns with Pres. Joe Biden's $4.7trillion agendaCredit: Splash
'THOSE TWO'
"These people are destroying the country in my opinion," Behar said during Wednesday's show.
She continued: "We are so in trouble in this country, I don't know if people understand how dire the situation is.
"If Joe Biden loses, if the Democrats lose, the Republicans, who are so corrupt right now and we all know that - they will move in, Trump will run in 2024 - he might win because of all the cheating that's going on.
"We cannot let this happen!"
She then pointed the finger at the two senators.
"Manchin and Sinema must be brought to task," she said.
"They are the enemies right now of the democracy.
"Yes, we have a great democracy, but it is really on life support right now because of these two people!"
The outspoken host suggested that the Democrats, who control both the House and Senate, "have the numbers" to pass Biden's agenda "but Manchin and Sinema are standing in their way.
"They call themselves Democrats, and they will be the ruination of this nation. Those two."
'JOE CAN'T GET JOB DONE'
Her co-host Sunny Hostin lent her own support for the criticism against the undecided lawmakers.
"Don't you think it's so unfortunate that we've worked so hard... to flip Georgia blue," Hostin said.
"We've got two Democratic senators now, and you have people that are supposed to be a part of a strong Democratic coalition, like Manchin, like Sinema, being so obstreperous that President Biden, who is supposed to be fighting for the soul of this country, can't get the job done."
$4.7TRILLION AGENDA AT STAKE
Behar railed against the holdouts whom they say are preventing the Biden administration from pushing through both a 1.2trillion infrastructure funding package and a $3.5trillion social spending package.
Both Sinema and Manchin have been noncommittal about Biden's agenda.
Each has said they would oppose the $3.5trillion social spending first proposed by their party.
If either of them decides to vote against the Democratic bill in the 50-50 split Senate, it would fail, according to CNBC.
Their lukewarm position to jump on board the bills forced Biden to put on a charm offensive.
WHITE HOUSE 'MOVING BALL'
The talks appeared to be promising.
"The president felt it was constructive, felt they moved the ball forward, felt there was agreement that we're at a pivotal moment," White House press secretary Jen Psaki told reporters after the president's morning meeting with Sinema.
House Speaker Pelosi was confident the indecision wouldn't hold up the president's agenda.
"We will pass both bills," she said.
She's called for a Thursday vote in an attempt to break Democratic disputes over passing Biden's $1.2trillion infrastructure package that gained bipartisan support back in August.
A progressive wing of Democrats has threatened to boycott the vote, demanding instead that the president's pricier $3.5trillion entitlement and tax increase package be voted on first.
Manchin was adamant on Wednesday night that he refused to be cornered one way or another.
Manchin wrote in a statement: "While I am hopeful that common ground can be found that would result in another historic investment in our nation, I cannot - and will not - support trillions in spending or an all or nothing approach that ignores the brutal fiscal reality our nation faces."
4The View hosts Joy Behar and Sunny Hostin shared critical words against both Sens. Manchin and Sinema during Wednesday's showCredit: Twitter / ABC
Joy Behar is completely right, particularly about the dire future the country faces if Biden is seen as a "failure".
start the video from the :30 point.
Joy Behar has jumped aboard the chicken little train.
I personally find Behar to be one of the most worthless people on daytime television right up there with her other cohorts on The View.
Well, Biden certainly has not proved himself to be a success by any stretch if the liberal Democrat's vivid imagination!
She sounds like a lefty version of Trump.
Her accent is the same, she clearly has no idea WTF she's talking about....even with cue cards... and she's attacking far better people just because she isn't getting everything she wants.
Biden is already considered to be a failure, all over the planet
"Behar railed against the holdouts whom they say are preventing the Biden administration from pushing through both a 1.2trillion infrastructure funding package and a $3.5trillion social spending package."
Wrong! Manchin already voted for the $1.5 Trillion infrastructure package. That package could have been voted on and passed Thursday had it not been for the "squad."
You may get your "civil war" if Republicans get put back in power with Trump as the head of the party.
Aw jeez, another sedition investigation.
I am curious. Do you have any idea what you are talking about?
Well, if the Republicans are PUT in power, and there’s a civil war, it would appear that you will have advocated for it. Thus, more investigation for the sake of phony righteousness. I’m sorry you find that so difficult to follow.
Do you think that people will accept Donald Trump in office again, or even as the head of the Republican Party, should they regain power, after he tried to steal the election of last November?
You do understand that he tried to steal the election, dont you ? Why are Republicans even still taking his phone calls ?
If Trump wins the Republican primary and then the presidency then he won the majority of those voting in the Republican primary; as well as the electoral college- which will take how many millions of votes again?
So Democrats and the left will be all in on the next Civil War if Trump should win. Good to know. Will pick up that new gun I was debating on getting to make sure I can defend my home; and those I care about from the seditious left.
You do understand that Democrats are more corrupt, more evil, and more vile than Trump don't you? The whole Russian collusion BS was nothing more than a political hit job paid for by the Clinton Campaign; that was spoon fed to a compliant FBI by Clinton surrogates; and used to spy on a political opponent. It has all been downhill from there with the Democrats and left. The Democrats have spent the last 5 and half plus years proving how full of shit they are; and how they are not qualified to lead. They are working in overdrive now; and fucking up everything as fast as they can.
Besides, how can Democrats try for a third impeachment of Trump if he doesn't get reelected? This time I am sure they will get him!/S
Also, thanks for the current fuck up in chief you (meaning all those that voted for Biden) put in the White House. He has done more to destroy the US in under nine months than Trump did in four years.
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Bingo!
The implication if Biden is a "failure" is a takeover of the national government by a party that turned a blind eye to an attempted theft of the last election. It is highly likely that the Republican Party will never again be the majority party among American voters. If Trump or his lackeys are allowed to come back into government there will be widespread civil unrest.
The media, which is exploiting the current situation for their own benefit, doesn't have the best interest of the nation at heart. They have their own interests at heart.
Until the Republicans shed Trump completely totally and finally , and trumpism, they cannot be allowed back into national power.
It IS true that Manchin and Sinema will cause far more harm than good if they succeed in "embarrassing" Biden.
Thank you for round two of the left are nothing more than seditious assholes if they don't get their way. Guess you didn't think your first post was blunt enough? Democrats seem to have a real problem with the electoral college and are doing everything in their power to get rid of it; or render it useless through amnesty for illegal immigrants. Trying to make flyover country truly worthless and live up to it's name.
The vast majority of the "media" are leftist morons that don't even bother hiding their political bent anymore. The only reason Trump received such media attention before was the media thought he would be the easiest win for Hillary among the Republican primary field. They turned against Trump during the general election; but it seems they couldn't control the Frankenstein they created.
So the Democrats are so much better- despite the last 5 and half years plus of putting party before country by attempting to take down Trump by any means necessary. They have proven themselves to be far more vile, evil, and corrupt than Trump could ever hope to be. They have also done such a great job of fucking everything up since being given absolute power; they deserve to be rewarded with another 4 year rule.
They don't need to embarrass Biden; he is an embarrassment all unto himself. Do you think all voters are going to dismiss all of the crisis he has caused?
So don't worry Biden. He is doing just fine "embarrassing" himself.
They said the same thing in 1977.
Silly people have written the GOP off as dead many times over the years.
Very silly people.
And they never seem to learn.
Ahhh, so Manchin and Sinema are the latest and most dangerous threats to democracy? Gotcha.....
what's really funny here is the Democrats are the majority and won't pass Biden's agenda.
the GOP isn't holding it up.
Hmmm, maybe thats why Joy Behar mentioned Manchin and Sinema and not Mitch McConnell or Kevin McCarthy. Duh.
we see how Democrats govern in the majority.
why would people vote for such ineptitude?
It's hilarious how you think this blithering fool has that kind of pull.
Your comment literally makes no sense.
But beyond that Behar has as much right to her opinion as anyone on Fox News or any other conservative media. She has been giving it on The View for something like 25 years, which predates anyone on Fox News including Hannity, Carlson, etc.
I dont watch The View much, but I do know they discuss political issues for part of the program every single day.
Are Democrats allowed to think for themselves? Apparently blind fealty to Biden is required.
Fealty? To Biden? I don't think that's the problem....
Are Republicans allowed to think for themselves? If your answer is yes, then tell that to the party that ripped apart Liz Cheney for not voting lock step with the Republicans.
Remember this thread the next time you and yours attack Republicans for voting in lockstep.
It's comical how judgmental Democrats get about Republicans and then engage in the exact same behavior. They are going to primary Sinema and Manchin just like Republicans will primary Cheney.
Well, Republicans have proven that if you don't vote lock step with the party, there will be consequences including censure so.....
Republicans were part of that infrastructure bill sitting in the House. And Joe Biden is about to ask Republicans for their support.
They are going to primary Sinema and Manchin just like Republicans will primary Cheney.
They may pass on Manchin. When he's gone his Senate seat will go to a Republican.
Tell Nancy and Chucky that. They tried it with the progressives and it blew up in their faces!
Clean your own house before telling someone else what to do with theirs.
You do not even know what my "house" is so speak for yourself!
You're not as mysterious as you think you are.
You still don't know zip. Nice try but no cigar. Bye now.
You keep thinking that.
I don't think I am mysterious at all. In fact I'm pretty open. Some people here on NT just do not realize it. So you just keep right on fishing.
Since you claim you are so open, you've actually made my point that I do indeed know what your "house" is.
If that is your sneaky way of attempting to infer that I am a Trump supporting Republican you are dead wrong cause I cannot stand the guy. I have made that quite plain in the past. So how about you quit beating around the bush and say what it is you are trying to say.
Where did I say you were a Trump supporter? Where did I even mention Trump as he is not what we were discussing?
Then please elucidate what did you mean by "my house"? Not that hard a question is it?
I guess it was.
Not a chance.
I think it’s extreme partisan drama like this that has a much greater potential to harm the country - and it has been doing so for at least 20 years.
It is so much more productive when the various factions move forward on the agenda items they can agree on. If they did that, then they could move on to the stuff they disagree about, and maybe reach some compromise. Instead, a lot of good stuff that America really does support in a bipartisan way is being held up because some people have to have everything they can imagine.
Stop it. You sound totally out of touch. That's not how things work./s if you need it...
Biden's Plan To Tax Rich People Like Me Is The Best Way To Grow The Economy | The New Republic
Biden’s Plan to Tax Rich People Like Me is the Best Way to Grow the Economy | The New Republic
As one of those rich guys who will pay boatloads of higher taxes under President Biden's plan, I have one thing to say to Congress: Do it! Passing this legislation is the most significant step you can take toward economic prosperity.
It drives me crazy when I hear Democrats say that "for the sake of the economy" we have to cut back on the $3.5 trillion spending in Biden's Build Back Better legislation, or that we can't possibly raise taxes on the wealthy and huge corporations as much as Biden proposed. Those folks have it totally backward. Taxing the rich is the only plan that would increase investment, boost productivity, grow the economy, and create more and better jobs.
As I've written before (and here and here too), "Raise taxes on the rich, and almost anything the federal government does with the revenue will pump more money through the economy than what the wealthy are doing with our hoarded cash today. Tax the rich to put money back in the hands of the American people through middle-class tax cuts, and corporations will expand production and payrolls to meet the resulting spike in consumer demand. Tax the rich to invest in roads, transit, bridges, health care, schools, and to transition to a green energy economy, and we will create millions of good-paying jobs while building the physical and human infrastructure on which our collective prosperity relies."
But Biden's Build Back Better plan is far from "almost anything." It uses the money raised from a modest increase in taxes on big business and zillionaires like me to create the foundation for broad-based prosperity in the twenty-first century. First, it invests in the capacity of our people to realize their highest potential by making raising children more affordable and extending free public education from preschool through the first two years of college. Second, it meaningfully tackles climate change, the biggest long-term threat to our economy. And third, by lowering the cost of health care and providing paid family and medical leave, it puts more money in the pockets of working Americans to spend in their communities.
By now, this should be common sense, but unfortunately some Democrats in Congress—and every Republican—still cling to the failed trickle-down theory that giving money to the rich and big corporations translates into economic growth and prosperity. But the problem with today's economy isn't that rich people like me don't have enough capital to invest; it's that we're not productively investing the glut of capital we already have. We'd have far higher levels of economic growth today if trickle-down policies hadn't taken $42,000 a year in wages from the average American and given that money to the wealthiest 1 percent. When ordinary Americans get more money, they spend it in their local communities, thereby creating jobs through increased consumer demand. When rich people like me get that money instead, we hoard it.
And though we didn't need another lesson about how giving corporations more tax breaks just makes CEOs and wealthy shareholders richer, we got it when the 2017 GOP tax cuts led to corporations spending $927 billion buying back their stocks. Put another way, when handed almost a trillion dollars in tax breaks, corporations chose to enrich their own executives and shareholders, rather than make new investments in products or higher wages for their employees. Corporate taxes are now at record lows as a share of federal revenues and of the economy.
Only inside the Beltway is this even a debate. By now the public, including Republicans, understand that raising taxes on the rich is good for the economy. There is strong bipartisan support not only for the spending provisions in the BBB but also for its tax hikes on the wealthy and corporations. But somehow—campaign cash maybe?—the faded allure of trickle-down economics still has a hold on some Democrats in Congress.
So, no: $3.5 trillion in tax hikes over the next decade for my fellow plutocrats and CEOs isn't too much. If anything, it's too little. Democrats who are pushing to lower that number or who are shying away from raising my taxes are sabotaging an economy that will deliver broad-based prosperity for years to come. They need to pass both the reconciliation and the infrastructure bills ASAP and stop this nonsense. And if they don't, well, as I tweeted the other day, they'd better lose my phone number and stop calling for donations.
So much wrong in such a short space.
No. It isn't. There are plenty of ways to do that.
For "one of those rich guys", he seems to have forgotten how a bank works. Not surprising he thinks this is the "only way".
The overwhelming majority of the money isn't going to any of that.
As well as people who are far from "zillionaires". Not to mention the increased prices to cover the cost of corporate taxes.
The first two years of college is already free almost everywhere in the United States. You just have to fill out the paperwork. If you can't fill out the paperwork, college may not actually be a good fit for you.
I realize this is difficult for devoted leftists to understand, but there are other alternatives to "trickle-down" besides crazy stupid spending.
Incredibly odd that a venture capitalist who made his money helping other people get rich doesn't seem to want to do that.