'Slow-motion insurrection': How GOP seizes election power
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Via: dig • 4 years ago • 224 commentsBy: NICHOLAS RICCARDI (AP NEWS)
In the weeks leading up to the deadly insurrection at the U.S. Capitol on Jan. 6, a handful of Americans — well-known politicians, obscure local bureaucrats — stood up to block then-President Donald Trump's unprecedented attempt to overturn a free and fair vote of the American people.
In the year since, Trump-aligned Republicans have worked to clear the path for next time.
In battleground states and beyond, Republicans are taking hold of the once-overlooked machinery of elections. While the effort is incomplete and uneven, outside experts on democracy and Democrats are sounding alarms, warning that the United States is witnessing a "slow-motion insurrection" with a better chance of success than Trump's failed power grab last year.
They point to a mounting list of evidence: Several candidates who deny Trump's loss are running for offices that could have a key role in the election of the next president in 2024. In Michigan, the Republican Party is restocking members of obscure local boards that could block approval of an election. In Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, the GOP-controlled legislatures are backing open-ended "reviews" of the 2020 election, modeled on a deeply flawed look-back in Arizona. The efforts are poised to fuel disinformation and anger about the 2020 results for years to come.
All this comes as the Republican Party has become more aligned behind Trump, who has made denial of the 2020 results a litmus test for his support. Trump has praised the Jan. 6 rioters and backed primaries aimed at purging lawmakers who have crossed him. Sixteen GOP governors have signed laws making it more difficult to vote. An Associated Press-NORC Center for Public Affairs Research poll showed that two-thirds of Republicans do not believe Democrat Joe Biden was legitimately elected as president.
The result, experts say, is that another baseless challenge to an election has become more likely, not less.
"It's not clear that the Republican Party is willing to accept defeat anymore," said Steven Levitsky, a Harvard political scientist and co-author of the book "How Democracies Die." "The party itself has become an anti-democratic force."
American democracy has been flawed and manipulated by both parties since its inception. Millions of Americans — Black people, women, Native Americans and others — have been excluded from the process. Both Republicans and Democrats have written laws rigging the rules in their favor.
This time, experts argue, is different: Never in the country's modern history has a a major party sought to turn the administration of elections into an explicitly partisan act.
Republicans who sound alarms are struggling to be heard by their own party. GOP Reps. Liz Cheney of Wyoming or Adam Kinzinger of Illinois, members of a House committee investigating the Jan. 6 insurrection, are often dismissed as party apostates. Others have cast the election denialism as little more than a distraction.
But some local officials, the people closest to the process and its fragility, are pleading for change. At a recent news conference in Wisconsin, Kathleen Bernier, a GOP state senator and former elections clerk, denounced her party's efforts to seize control of the election process.
"These made up things that people do to jazz up the base is just despicable and I don't believe any elected legislator should play that game," said Bernier.
LOCAL CONTROL
Bernier's view is not shared by the majority of the Republicans who control the state Legislature in Wisconsin, one of a handful of states that Biden carried but Trump wrongly claims he won. Early in 2021, Wisconsin Republicans ordered their Legislative Audit Bureau to review the 2020 election. That review found no significant fraud. Last month, an investigation by the conservative Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty came to the same conclusion.
Still, many Republicans are convinced that something went wrong. They point to how the nonpartisan Wisconsin Elections Commission — which the GOP-led Legislature and then-Republican governor created eight years ago to run the state's elections — changed guidance for local elections officers to make voting easier during the pandemic.
That's led to a struggle for control of elections between the state Legislature and the commission.
"We feel we need to get this straight for people to believe we have integrity," said GOP Sen. Alberta Darling, who represents the conservative suburbs north of Milwaukee. "We're not just trying to change the election with Trump. We're trying to dig into the next election and change irregularities."
Republicans are also remaking the way elections are run in other states. In Georgia, an election bill signed this year by the GOP governor gave the Republican-controlled General Assembly new powers over the state board of elections, which controls its local counterparts.
The law is being used to launch a review of operations in solidly-Democratic Fulton County, home to most of Atlanta, which could lead to a state takeover. The legislature also passed measures allowing local officials to remove Democrats from election boards in six other counties.
In Pennsylvania, the GOP-controlled legislature is undertaking a review of the presidential election, subpoenaing voter information that Democrats contend is an unprecedented intrusion into voter privacy. Meanwhile, Trump supporters are signing up for local election jobs in droves. One pastor who attended the Jan. 6 rally in the nation's capital recently won a race to become an election judge overseeing voting in a rural part of Lancaster County.
In Michigan, the GOP has focused on the state's county boards of canvassers. The little-known committees' power was briefly in the spotlight in November of 2020, when Trump urged the two Republican members of the board overseeing Wayne County, home to Democratic-bastion Detroit, to vote to block certification of the election.
After one of the Republican members defied Trump, local Republicans replaced her with Robert Boyd, who told The Detroit Free Press that he would not have certified Biden's win last year.
Boyd did not return a call for comment.
A similar swap — replacing a traditional Republican with one who parroted Trump's election lies — occurred in Macomb County, the state's third most populous county.
The Detroit News in October reported that Republicans had replaced their members on boards of canvassers in eight of Michigan's 11 most populous counties
Michigan officials say that if boards of canvassers don't certify an election they can be sued and compelled to do so. Still, that process could cause chaos and be used as a rallying cry behind election disputes.
"They're laying the groundwork for a slow-motion insurrection," said Mark Brewer, an election lawyer and former chair of the Michigan Democratic Party.
The state's top election official, Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson, warned: "The movement to cast doubt on the 2020 election has now turned their eyes ... to changing the people who were in positions of authority and protected 2020."
TRUMP'S RETRIBUTION
That includes Benson.
Multiple Republicans have lined up to challenge her, including Kristina Karamo, a community college professor who alleged fraud in the 2020 elections and contended that the Jan. 6 attackers were actually antifa activists trying to frame Trump supporters.
Trump has been clear about his intentions: He is seeking to oust statewide officials who stood in his way and replace them with allies.
"We have secretary of states that did not do the right thing for the American people," Trump, who has endorsed Karamo, told The Associated Press this month.
The most prominent Trump push is in Georgia, where the former president is backing U.S. Rep. Jody Hice, who voted against Biden's Electoral College victory on Jan. 6, in a primary race against the Republican secretary of state, Brad Raffensperger. He rejected Trump's pleas to "find" enough votes to declare him the winner.
Trump also encouraged former U.S. Sen. David Perdue to challenge Gov. Brian Kemp in the GOP primary. Kemp turned down Trump's entreaties to declare him the victor in the 2020 election.
In October, Jason Shepherd stepped down as chair of the Cobb County GOP after the group censured Kemp. "It's shortsighted. They're not contemplating the effects of this down the line," Shepherd said in an interview. "They want their pound of flesh from Brian Kemp because Brian Kemp followed the law."
In Nevada, multiple lawsuits seeking to overturn Biden's victory were thrown out by judges. A suit aimed at overturning his congressional loss was filed by Jim Marchant, a former GOP state lawmaker now running to be secretary of state, and it too was dismissed. The current Republican secretary of state, Barbara Cegavske, who is term limited, found there was no significant fraud in the contests.
Marchant said he's not just seeking to become a Trump enabler, though he was endorsed by Trump in his congressional bid. "I've been fighting this since before he came along," Marchant said of Trump. "All we want is fair and transparent elections."
In Pennsylvania, Republican state Sen. Doug Mastriano, who organized buses of Trump supporters for Trump's rally near the White House on Jan. 6, has signaled he's running for governor. In Arizona, state Rep. Mark Finchem's bid to be secretary of state has unnerved many Republicans, given that he hosted a daylong hearing in November 2020 that featured Trump adviser Rudolph Giuliani. Former news anchor Kari Lake, who repeats Trump's election falsehoods, is running to succeed Republican Gov. Doug Ducey, who stood up to Trump's election-year pressure and is barred from another term.
Elsewhere in Arizona, Maricopa County Recorder Stephen Richer, who defended his office against the conspiratorial election review, has started a political committee to provide financial support to Republicans who tell the truth about the election. But he's realistic about the persistence of the myth of a stolen election within his party's base.
"Right now," Richer said, "the incentive structure seems to be strongly in favor of doing the wrong thing."
HIGH STAKES RACES FOR GOVERNOR
In Michigan, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, Democratic governors have been a major impediment to the GOP's effort to overhaul elections. Most significantly, they have vetoed new rules that Democrats argue are aimed at making it harder for people of color to vote.
Governors have a significant role in U.S. elections: They certify the winners in their states, clearing way for the appointment of Electoral College members. That raises fears that Trump-friendly governors could try to certify him — if he were to run in 2024 and be the GOP nominee — as the winner of their state's electoral votes regardless of the vote count.
Additionally, some Republicans argue that state legislatures can name their own electors regardless of what the vote tally says.
But Democrats have had little success in laying out the stakes in these races. It's difficult for voters to believe the system could be vulnerable, said Daniel Squadron of The States Project, a Democratic group that tries to win state legislatures.
"The most motivated voters in America today are those who think the 2020 election was stolen," he said. "Acknowledging this is afoot requires such a leap from any core American value system that any of us have lived through."
In case anyone was wondering...
The left's relentless attempts to overturn Trump's fairly won election amounted to a de facto insurrection.
What happened on January 6th was an unorganized demonstration that led to a half assed riot that got out of hand.
The left's pathetic attempts to make it more than it was is failing with the public at large...
Hilarious. Right wing lunatics would like you to believe that if Donald Trump would have won his re-election attempt then criminals would have disappeared. What idiots are buying this?
A major portion of this country was not happy with how the 2020 election was prosecuted. Still aren't but no worries.
You're about to find that out the hard way in 2022 and very likely in 2024 as well.
The election was not “prosecuted”. The snowflakes who were so unhappy with the results of the free and fair election that they literally shit in the halls of congress - now they were prosecuted.
I'm referring to the 2016 election.
I guessed I somehow missed all of the “relentless attempts from the left to overturn the 2016 election.” How’s that whole rewriting of history thing going for you?
You understanding of the word "prosecuted" appears to be sophomoric at best.
You and everyone else who lives in the real world.
Magats.
What a "f-ked up" (alternative) reality is Trump 'country.' It says. . .a lot that some conservatives won't let Donald Trump have his little delusion all to himself. Quite telling, indeed.
Similar words came out of a right-wing echo chamber in 2020. But, don't ask me to dredge those articles up, because I am not going to indulge any of it. "A major portion of this country" is not happy with goodness, mercy, compassion, caring, consideration, selflessness, fairness—and we should care because some conservatives can't handle loss? Hey! Some conservatives y'all's perspective and lack of a coherent vision for this country during a major pandemic crisis lost the election! Move on and learn to play fair already!
Not only would they not disappear, but Trump would have appointed them to key positions....his usual MO.
OMG ..... another insurrection? This one in slow motion? Scary.
That said, the projection at play here is epic. People like Levitsky, a Harvard Poli Sci prof, are about as far away from mainstream America as it gets.
They are about to find that out the hard way, once again, in 2022. We'll see how well partisans like him take the butt whipping that's coming in November.
My guess is the red ass will be even more epic than the TDS pandemic of 2016-2020
TDS? One to talk - wow! I know. I know. Some conservatives project the aforementioned on liberals. However, it truly is Trump supporters that demonstrate and 'mouth' the cray-cray-iest things!
This is a problem - Democratic messaging, or lack thereof. The Dems need to make sure, where this is happening, that people know that a good portion of the Republican party is working to make sure the voice of the people counts for nothing, if it opposes the GOP. Elections in those areas will be a facade, as the results will be pre-determined.
Anybody who gives a damn about American values should be alarmed.
I can't believe the anti-American depravity of the R's these days. They should just come out and admit they don't want a republic anymore.
The same could very much be said about the D's as well. It is a double edged sword.
No Ed, it cannot! False equivalencies are false on their faces and at this time in American history only the gop is as a minority actually trying to keep political power away from the majority instead of moving in the direction of the electorate. The problem for the gop is that gerrymandering and voter suppression can only go so far...in a Republic! There has been no liberal equivalent to January 6, 2021!
Yes, people often tell lies, so I guess anything "Could be said". So what? Doesn't make it true!
Uh no. The ( D's ) will never force a 12 year old or anybody else for that matter to bear children against their will. And many other things too.
That's ridiculous. What exactly makes you think that? Seriously, please share.
One party wants to safeguard voting rights, the other is actively trying to undermine them. Do you not know which is which? Read the article for a hint.
I think false equivalence has become a knee-jerk reaction for some. "But the Dems are just as bad" is just something they say as a matter of course when Republicans are criticized. When asked to substantiate their claims, the responses tend to be lacking.
And just where did I say that was the case? The answer is obviously I did not, so please do try to refrain from putting your words in my mouth.
Of course. Why would I expect any less---or any more for that matter.
I've read your posts for quite a while. That is where you stand. You stand with those that do exactly that.
Nice attempt at deflection.
Where is the deflection?
You never answered my question In post #3.1.6 on as to where I stated anything about 12 year olds. Instead you just went off on a tangent in 3.1.7 accusing me of standing with other people. That deflection!
The problem is who's trying to do what.
You get one vote. You should vote where you are registered. You should prove who you are so no one steals your vote. You have a window of time to vote. The voter roles should be cleaned up to remove deceased and people no long in the district.
Not a tangent. You support the party that supports that. That is what it is, isn't it?
I agree. It is time for the democratic party to find its 'rowdy' voice in 2022 and magnify it over its 'cerebral' voice. The republics are messaging bull crap; and democrats should have a field day messaging about republican/conservatives weakness and lack of cohesive policy (or any policy platform at all).
But they probably won't. Dems are weak on messaging. They need to work on that, and they need to start yesterday.
Then how the "h" can democrats build consistency in winning (for the right purposes)? The time is now to learn and immediately deploy new ideas and tactics—yesterday!
No...the American people are discovering that the Democrats have little regard for traditional American values....or the rule of law.
Americans who STILL support a criminal, a tyrant, and an enemy of the republic have no business whatsoever pretending they give a shit about traditional American values or the rule of law.
You are not going to like 2022 come about Nov 9th. Best you start girding your loins now. God knows they are going to need a lot of girding.
What make you think the electorate desires a turn to the right? Most of those expressing dissatisfaction and disappointment with the current administration and Congress want a more aggressive approach, not stagnation...
This meme better sums up current attitudes.
Nah, not even close. Especially the meme.
That meme typifies all the liberal sky screamers we've seem the past five years. The TDS ridden, hate filled, liberal left..
They better stock up on Preparation-h again. 2022 is going to be a very inflamed ride for those fruit-loops.
Whoosh! Americans are not turning towards the right, especially not the far right. The gop as it is today is shrinking. America is getting browner, gayer, less religious and more and more progressive especially economically...
Flat earth supply side knuckle dragging in the modern world is a recipe for future failure...
Face it, intolerance and ignorance are a no go.
Here! Here!
Hmmph. Jarring. You have your work cut out for you for many months reciting. . .lines.
Be wary. The amendment after the First Amendment still stands and its only purpose is citizens protecting themselves from a vengeful, unresponsive, dangerous group of individuals who hold the reins of power.
This too. Those who tout the Second Amendment to further and promote a lie will suffer the consequence that amendment guarantees for truth, justice and freedom. Be wary. Be very-very wary.
'The Western World' will not SUPPORT an America that ignores its own Rule of Law to follow after a psychotic wanna be tyrant! Some conservatives delude themselves into believing that "any old 'America'" will do in the 21st century for Europe and NATO even should it renege on its policies of working for truth over and above error. It is arrogance to think that lying, backstabbing, double-dealings, aka: CORRUPTION is preferred by nations looking to advance in the world. Also, short-sighted. This nation will be 'deserted' by its friendly nations, its contracts will be compromised, and it will be cut out of its treaties. Worse, irreparable harm will be done to the reputation which can no longer feign IGNORANCE of deliberately choosing to return to corruption over fairness while looking the CHOICE squarely in its face!
I never said Americans were turning right.
I said the left is going to get its ass kicked in 2022. And I for one am going to enjoy watch them try rational the ass kicking away somehow.
Better buckle up buttercups ..... you’ve sown the wind and now are about to reap the whirlwind.
I find that ironic. We have our share of the hate filled right here on NT
Nah, that’s not ironic at all but opinions can vary .......
That's getting tiring..."opinions can vary". And if you can't see the hate coming from the right I can't help you
I never said hate didn’t come from the right. I said my comment (that you quoted) wasn’t ironic IMO.
We are a global laughing stock politically right now.
"Traditional American Values"? Like what Greg? (I don't even want to imagine what you label as, 'rule of law.'
Women back in the home, gays back in the closet, brown people back on the plantation, and 12 year olds working the coal mines.
Need I go on?
By all means, keep pushing the hyperbole.
TG is not being hyperbolic. And, though republicans and conservatives no longer have a presentable political platform for any of us to gaze upon, we fall-back on what is being enacted or lack thereof and not (never) what some conservatives say!
Just wait until I get going. If you think that's hyperbole you ain't seen nuttin' yet
They want to deprive women of their free choice in what to do with our bodies. They don't like women pushing them out of the corporate and academic worlds. Hell, they don't think we need minimum wage or child labor laws!
And God forbid we have Pride Parades!
This kind of nonsense is getting tiring ..... yawn ....
Yippee ki yay!
Understatement. I note some conservatives tend to write less when they have nothing (useful) to help build constructive discourse. Between two group or more of Americans.
EXACTLY. Some conservatives want girls and women to simply 'want' more babies "just because." Ignoring the uniquely solid fact that EVERYTHING this world labels human beauty or ugliness comes through the womb of a female. That is, every man or woman I have ever gazed upon or read about through 'countless' histories is a product of female 'love' for birthing and making it so.
Yet, some conservatives want even more babies, but promise not a damn thing to them—as if being alive for alive sake is the thing.
Homosexuals, Blacks? Why should women want to have excess babies just to be abused by culture and society?
I'll need to order more eye-rolls.
Maybe I'll see if they come in a larger size.
I read eye rolls as rib eyes and was going to ask you why you need a larger rib eye
Meh, some us prefer to not bore our audience with long meaningless speech but tend to gravitate towards short and sweet. Others here like the sound of their own voices entirely too much.
Know what I mean?
"Talking loud and saying nothing." Some conservatives insubstantial? Never. /s
Lol .... blah, blah, blah .....
LOL! GOP 'Regulars' waiting in the wings for the GOP Extremists and Insurrectionists to finish performing and exit the stage! A more stable (and viewable) political platform is waiting on the sidelines!
Run Sparty...RUNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!
Reading eye-rolls as ribeyes is an honest mistake.
Askin why a person needs a larger ribeye?? What kind of question is that?
If you answer "ribs", you damn well better change your username.
You could be "Tennessean1211", I suppose.
Did you have a Emily Latilla moment there?
the correct answer is "both " , with a tomahawk steak thrown in for good measure ....
A stupid one
That and blurry eyes
I like ribs a lot if they're done right
Lol .... that sad part is that you probably really do believe that steaming pile of partisan bullshit ..... sad indeed
You might wish those GOP regulars were not there. But, they are there! And they are waiting for your Trump "agitators" all to leave willingly or get the 'boot'!
Lol .... don’t try to put words in my mouth CB. Doubtful you’ll ever get it right ....
Your 'mouth' is not an issue for me, Sparty On. It's January 6, 2022. What significance does it bear for some conservatives? Any event planning? A (high) "hol-i"-day?
I saw a tee shirt the other day....REAL MEN SMELL LIKE BBQ. I want one for a friend of mine.
I'll take the carne asada ribeye myself...
Sous-Vide cooked Filet Mignon to 125 degrees, sear each side and yum!
Rare - of course
Of course, anything else would be uncivilized!
Straight out of the FSB.
FSB?
In the new year, I resolve to do my best to cut through the 'noise' percolating through the political scene. To that end: There is truly something wrong with the republican party which has branded itself property of one stupendously arrogant individual. And what an individual. EVERYBODY with ears and eyes can see EX-president Donald Trump is a prolific liar who has purposed to live out his life in a delusional world of his own creation. It is patently PATHETIC that some conservatives see their fortune living in a 'desolate' mind-melt with a raging fool of a man who is to decency and order what vomit is to fine china. On being a lying 'wonder':
These some conservatives are not stupid people, per se. How do I know this? Because these same people accepting Trump's lies (they want to) will deny me opportunity to have their blessing for lying to them. They would curse me and condemn me immediately.
Not dumb people; just deliberate!
When 'the profit' no longer arrives from the ( LIE ), the lie will die a thousand deaths. When that time arrives, to those who promoted it will be the time for them to 'gird' themselves against the following wrath freedom and democracy will wage upon them.
My goodness! It is a LIE exposed and effortlessly occurring in the light of day! Everybody knows it is a LIE! And yet. . . some conservatives' PERSIST with the branded LIE to everyone's faces!
I have to ask. HAVE WE LOSE OUR COUTH IN THIS COUNTRY?! Tired already of doing right by our fellow man, woman, and children?
Whether than live up to our creed, some conservatives are seriously (and hypocritically) thinking about believing delusions of their past GRANDEUR (a lot of it stolen fortunes) from others and crooked deal-making and they buy-in to this **old fart*** that is self-taught in the art of stealing from others (through the help of lawyers and trained enablers).
I NEVER WOULD HAVE BELIEVED IT! I AM SEEING THIS COUNTRY FREE OF GUILE AND DECEIT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ITS HISTORY TURNING BACKWARD AND 'PINING' AFTER A 'F-KED UP "LEADER" WHO PROMISES TYRANNY TO HIS FELLOW AMERICANS AND ALL THE LYING THEY CAN BOTTLE AND SELL AS
MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
I would rather see them holding signs on freeway exits...WILL BELIEVE LIES FOR FOOD.
Apparently the Republican party is more willing than the Democrat Party. Take a look at the actions of the Democrats between 2016 and 2022.
Did the "experts" forget about the Meuller "Investigation" and subsequent "impeachment"?
Didnt the gop lose House, Senate and Presidency?
Yeah they did, but 2022 and 2024 are coming up sooner than most people think. Enjoy it while it lasts, because it won't be for long...
Yes they did. and the democrats still ran false investigations into the POTUS and anybody associated with him.
Ed-NavDoc, is this partisanship on display from you? I'm confused. Are you a centrist? Republican? Republican-leaning? Certainly from what has been coming across your threshold -not a democrat. Clarification needed.
Ridiculous! Wow. Supporting one of the many worse human beings in existence in 'America' (guess who) and doing so without shame. SHAME! It's 2022 you can come back now!
I am neither a Republican nor a Democrat. I am a registered right leaning Independent.
Who knew "right-leaning" is register -able ? Well blow me down! Can you elucidate how this is exchange qualifies as Independent-minded:
Do correct me: You have a decidedly right-wing determinant 'bent' - and additionally if sacking the Capitol building in D.C. won't cause you to rule out some conservatives' no-platform for the future as a 'gain'. . . you're bagged already by republicans! Go ahead, let me know where am I wrong on this?
Agree to disagree.
Just supporting a person who, during his 4 year political career did more for me and my co-workers than Democrats have ever done.
So what don't you like about him? Could it be because he embarrassed the Democrats and the left so quickly and easily? Because he exposed the Democrats and the left's bullshit so quickly and easily? Because, despite a false investigation and partisan bullshit in the media he was still more successful in 4 years than most Democrats are in their entire careers?
You jest. That's all I got for this one. Believe Trump 'truthful hyperbole.' I can't fix. . . that. I like presidents who at least strive to be honest and decent as a general rule, anyway. Suffice it to say - Donald Trump puts the "oo" in cr-oo-ked!
We asked (pleaded even) for some compromise with Trump but no go. You know why? Because he and his CONSTITUENTS wanted and continue to want to try to force us, liberals, no less, to behave and become CONSERVATIVES. Hell, y'all will first have to convince vanishing members of the GOP to return before you can indoctrinate liberals to give in to 'Donald' and his 'menagerie.'
I wouldn't be so sure. Under trump the GOP lost the senate, the house, the WH and 3.5 million jobs.
That is true, but the future and election results are never written in stone.
Crying and stomping your feet isn't asking or pleading. It's a temper tantrum. Something you all have been doing since 2016. Apparently you (as a group) don't fully grasp the problems that the liberals have brought to the table from 2008 - 2016 and since 2020. But hey, at least you don't have mean tweets from "orange man".
Plus, his supporters are dying in droves due to the CV. There won't enough of them to judge a two man pissing contest.
Yeah let's take a look at those.
Ummm....what actions are we looking at?
Start with the calls for Trump's impeachment before he even took office; and then trying to force delegates to change their votes over to Hillary.
Hillary still hasn't accept that she lost; she and her minions still rant that the election was "stolen from her". She has never recognized Trump as president. She didn't even have a concession speech written.
Now throw in the bullshit Mueller investigation- which the FBI used the debunked Steele Dossier paid for by the Hillary Clinton campaign to gain FISA warrants to tap Trump campaign lines; and those close to him. Mueller couldn't prove collusion; because none existed- so they switched over to obstruction; which they not only failed to prove- but using the Democrat standards during the Clinton impeachment, Trump didn't even come close to committing.
TDS driven Democrats and their lemmings can try to rewrite history all they want. They will forever fail.
Your articles don't mention ANY democrats calling for his impeachment before he took office. It just claimed that some, unnamed ones did.
Now you want to try some specific verifiable actions, or just continue with right wing conspiracy theories? Oh, and BTW, even if you do come up with 1 or 2 quotes, it is a very common thing from opposing parties.
So it is kind of hypocritical to call that action as bad, when you don't call the same action as bad when done by your supported party.
A Brief History of GOP Calls for Obama's Impeachment, From Benghazi to Bergdahl
New group of GOP lawmakers file articles of impeachment against Biden
Come December, the Republican controlled House will start impeachment hearings against Biden. The Republican controlled Senate will vote to impeach.
I hope not. I don't like Biden and really didn't want him in the Oval Office, but this will look too much like playing partisan politics.
And this is one reason (other is republican legislatures have no good and fair policy prescriptions for this nation but are firing from their shameless lips) why republicans and conservatives do not deserve to be in charge of a damn thing.
Independent voters, c'mon be decent and wholesome in 2022. Show republicans and conservatives who are pushing the extremes the 'back' of your votes for a change!
It will be partisan and a true "witch-hunt" and you know something else- in the ensuing two years all of us (old folks) will have paid professionals to bull patty their way through two more years of our life-lines. This, from people who keep harking about millions wasted and not available for the future generations. What a bunch of lousy, hypocrites who are too engaged in "acting" that they do not even recognize the shame that is encrusted on themselves!
Fools! Some conservatives will not get away with any of it!
Sure they will, if that makes you feel better, you go just ahead and keep believing that.
Should any Trump supporter really be talking about ratings? Just asking.
2 different subjects, or 2 different perceptions? (i.e. ratings don't count for Trump, but they do count for Biden?)
Does supporting Biden make Trump's ratings change?
Don't care about Trump, but just absolutely love rubbing hypocrites noses in their hypocritical examples.
And what do "do as we say and not as we do" some conservatives tolerate, please clarify the republican platform ahead of 2022, Texan! Do try (anyway).
I, we, liberals, try to not mind conservatives and even show love in this life, but y'all ain't having any of it from us! It's opposition and trafficking in trashiness and counterprogramming all the time from the Right.
We're not kissing backsides this year (too much at stake for the nation and the world) and we can't get down on the floor to be walked (stomped) on, therefore, I guess COMPROMISE is something we all need to get back (use) to as progress.
Noise: definition: 'A big waste of time and energy.'
Texan, this year I am not into "empty can sounds."
For what? Please be specific.
Yep, Independents be decent. It's almost like hearing just make sure you vote our way or not at all, otherwise you are not relevant! I find that highly comical and hypocritical at the same time...
No problem.
They’ll follow the template created by Democrats in the previous four years and just make some shit up.
So in other words, you have nothing. Got it.
Nah but you are clearly in serious denial there Frosty ..... no other realistic way to look at it.
I asked for specific charges for impeachment. You gave me nothing at all.
Nah, not nothing.
I gave you the Democrat “make shit up” template.
Worked for those crackpots.
Congress - the "people's house" is a damn joke. State houses are a damn joke. Life in 'America' is becoming a proverb! Oh how low the mighty nation that once was has fallen even soon to be the last great nation in a listing of nations.