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Hyundai, Kia owners should park outside because vehicles can catch fire, makers warn

  

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Via:  perrie-halpern  •  2 years ago  •  14 comments

By:   The Associated Press

Hyundai, Kia owners should park outside because vehicles can catch fire, makers warn
Hyundai and Kia are telling the owners of nearly 485,000 vehicles in the U.S. to park them outdoors because they can catch fire even if the engines have been

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DETROIT — Hyundai and Kia are telling the owners of nearly 485,000 vehicles in the U.S. to park them outdoors because they can catch fire even if the engines have been turned off.

The recalls from the two Korean automakers are another in a long string of fire and engine failure problems that have dogged the companies for the past six years.

This time the problem is contamination in the antilock brake control module that can cause an electrical short. This increases the risk of fire while the vehicles are being driven or are parked.

Affected are certain Kia Sportage SUVs from 2014 through 2016, and the 2016 through 2018 K900 sedan. Recalled Hyundais include certain 2016 through 2018 Santa Fe SUVs, 2017 and 2018 Santa Fe Sports, the 2019 Santa Fe XL and 2014 and 2015 Tucson SUVs.

The automakers say they have 11 reports of fires in the U.S. but no injuries.

Documents posted Tuesday by U.S. safety regulators say owners should park the vehicles outside and away from structures until repairs are made.

Dealers will replace a fuse. In addition, Hyundai dealers will inspect the control modules and replace them if needed. Hyundai will mail notification letters starting April 5, and Kia will send them March 31.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration says owners can go www.nhtsa.gov and enter their 17-digit vehicle identification number to see if their automobile is being recalled.

Hyundai said that when it finds a safety defect "we act swiftly and efficiently to recall the vehicle and fix the problem at no cost to affected customers."

Kia said there are warning signs that drivers could see or smell. The antilock brake warning light could come on, and they could smell something burning or melting, or see smoke coming from the engine compartment.

Tuesday's recalls come after U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration stepped up a series of investigations into engine compartment fires that have plagued the Korean automakers.

In December, the agency consolidated two investigations from 2017 into a new a new engineering analysis covering more than 3 million vehicles from the 2011 through 2016 model years. At the time, NHTSA had received 161 complaints of engine fires, some of which occurred in vehicles that had already been recalled.

The first recall from the companies related to engine failures and fires reaches to September 2015. Since then they have issued at least eight more recalls for a host of engine problems, according to NHTSA documents.

The agency said it's evaluating whether previous recalls covered enough vehicles. It also will monitor the effectiveness of previous recalls "as well as the long-term viability of related programs and non-safety field actions being conducted by Hyundai and Kia."

At the time, the automakers said they have undertaken numerous recalls to address engine issues, including recalls, new engine monitoring technology and providing extended warranties.

Michael Brooks, chief counsel for the nonprofit Center for Auto Safety, said the recalls Tuesday are different from the engine failure problem that caused most of the previous Hyundai-Kia fire recalls. "Although NHTSA has the authority to order a recall and potentially a buyback of all affected vehicles, the separate fire defects that have plagued millions of Hyundai vehicles across multiple model years makes this a very difficult task," he said.

In November of 2020, NHTSA announced that Kia and Hyundai must pay $137 million in fines and for safety improvements because they moved too slowly to recall more than 1 million vehicles with engines that can fail. The fines resolved a previous probe into the companies' behavior involving recalls of multiple models dating to the 2011 model year.

Kia was to pay $27 million and invest $16 million in safety performance measures. Another $27 million payment will be deferred as long as Kia meets safety conditions, NHTSA said.

Kia denied the U.S. allegations but said it wanted to avoid a protracted legal fight.

Data collected by the Center for Auto Safety show more than 30 U.S. fire and engine-related recalls from Hyundai and Kia since 2015. The recalls involve more than 20 models from the 2006 through 2021 model years totaling over 8.4 million vehicles.

Many of the recalls involved manufacturing defects that stopped oil from flowing through the engine block. Many involved expensive engine replacements.

Hyundai and Kia also did a U.S. "product improvement campaign" covering 3.7 million vehicles to install software that will alert drivers of possible engine failures.


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evilone
Professor Guide
1  evilone    2 years ago

Thankfully our Kia is not one of the vehicles on this recall list.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
1.1  Kavika   replied to  evilone @1    2 years ago
Thankfully our Kia is not one of the vehicles on this recall list.

Same here.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
1.2  zuksam  replied to  evilone @1    2 years ago

I have a 2012 Kia Sedona van and they just replaced the fuel rail last summer, it was a recall because it could crack and leak and the van could catch fire. The fuel rail is partly plastic so it's no big surprise. My vans not on the list but still had a recall so the list is not trustworthy so if I were you I'd still look into it just to be safe. My van has been good, I bought it new and never have had a problem but it only has 76,000 miles in ten years.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  evilone @1    2 years ago

Mine either and I would have been pissed if it was. I just bought it in October.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
1.3.1  zuksam  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.3    2 years ago
I just bought it in October

Give it a couple years and about a thousand heat cool cycles and yours will be a fire hazard too.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2  Tacos!    2 years ago

What the actual . . . ?

How hard is it - in the 21st century - to build a car that won’t catch fire all by itself? How is this even a thing?

 
 
 
goose is back
Junior Guide
2.1  goose is back  replied to  Tacos! @2    2 years ago
How hard is it - in the 21st century - to build a car that won’t catch fire

I am by no way sticking up for the auto industry, but with all of the electronics and computers on cars today it doesn't surprise me. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.1  Tacos!  replied to  goose is back @2.1    2 years ago

My father in law (an aerospace engineer) was never a fan of advancing technology in cars. He always said it was just another thing to break.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Kavika   replied to  Tacos! @2.1.1    2 years ago

Advancing technology is responsible for not having to hand crank a car to get it started. jrSmiley_4_smiley_image.png

I'll stick with the technology.

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Guide
2.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  Kavika @2.1.2    2 years ago
Advancing technology is responsible for not having to hand crank a car to get it started.

Sure, but the hand crank isn’t likely to break. And if it does, you probably don’t need an expert to fix it. And it definitely doesn’t set itself on fire.

The old man was such a prude about technology he bought a truck in 2010 with crank windows.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1.4  Kavika   replied to  Tacos! @2.1.3    2 years ago
Sure, but the hand crank isn’t likely to break. And if it does, you probably don’t need an expert to fix it. And it definitely doesn’t set itself on fire.

The back snap on a hand crank could if it didn't fire properly break your wrist, arm or any body part in contact with the crank.

The old man was such a prude about technology he bought a truck in 2010 with crank windows.

LOL, now that is a prude or really living in the past.

 
 
 
zuksam
Junior Silent
2.1.5  zuksam  replied to  Kavika @2.1.4    2 years ago
The back snap on a hand crank could if it didn't fire properly break your wrist, arm or any body part in contact with the crank.

That's only because back when they had hand cranks the distributor didn't automatically advance and retard the timing, you had a lever in the cab and if it wasn't set to fully retarded when you used the hand crank the engine could turn backwards when it fired. So it was actually operator error or a mis-adjustment.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
2.1.6  Kavika   replied to  zuksam @2.1.5    2 years ago
That's only because back when they had hand cranks the distributor didn't automatically advance and retard the timing, you had a lever in the cab and if it wasn't set to fully retarded when you used the hand crank the engine could turn backwards when it fired. So it was actually operator error or a mis-adjustment.

And that is why I am a proponent of advancing technologies.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
3  devangelical    2 years ago

gee, that puts a whole new spin on planned obsolescence by auto manufacturers. I'll stick with my lexus.

 
 

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