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Democratic Socialists blame US imperialism for Russian invasion of Ukraine

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 years ago  •  29 comments

By:   Carl Campanile (New York Post)

Democratic Socialists blame US imperialism for Russian invasion of Ukraine
The Democratic Socialists of America blamed U.S. and NATO "imperialist expansion" for helping trigger the Russian invasion of Ukraine -- provoking criticism from local political leaders.

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The Democratic Socialists of America blamed US and NATO "imperialist expansion" for helping trigger the Russian invasion of Ukraine — provoking criticism from local political leaders.

"DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict," the DSA said in a statement.

"While the failures of neoliberal order are clear to everyone, the ruling class is trying to build a new world, through a dystopic transition grounded in militarism, imperialism, and war. Socialists have a duty to build an alternative."

The socialist group continued that "much of the next ten years are coming into view through this attack" and closed by saying, "no war but
class war."

The DSA's members who are elected leaders include Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) and Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.).

The Democratic Socialists of America put out a statement placing some blame for the Russia-Ukraine conflict on the United States.Getty Images

Military vet and former Staten Island Democratic Congressman Max Rose said in a tweet, "I am deeply concerned with DSA's statement calling on the US to unilaterally leave NATO in the midst of a level of Russian Aggression on the European Continent that we have not seen since World War 2.

"Now is the time to double down on our alliances, particularly NATO, to send economic and military aid to Ukraine, and to comprehensively punish Russia with crippling and unprecedented sanctions," he added.

Long Island Rep. Tom Suozzi, a Democrat running for governor, tweeted in response, "Well said, @MaxRose4NY ! I adamantly oppose the DSA's statement calling on the US to leave NATO. We must stand by NATO, stand with Ukraine, and stand up against Putin's bullying."

Sen. Bernie Sanders, along with Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, are two of the DSA's most prominent elected officials.AP

The DSA did condemn Russia's invasion of Ukraine and demanded immediate diplomacy and de-escalation to resolve this crisis.

"We stand in solidarity with the working classes of Ukraine and Russia who will undoubtedly bear the brunt of this war, and with antiwar protestors in both countries and around the world who are calling for a diplomatic resolution," the DSA said.

The DSA said the invasion is an "illegal act" under the United Nations Charter.

"There is no solution through war or further intervention. This crisis requires an immediate international antiwar response demanding de-escalation, international cooperation, and opposition to unilateral coercive measures, militarization, and other forms of economic and military brinkmanship that will only exacerbate the human toll of this conflict," the lefty group said.


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Sparty On
Professor Principal
1  Sparty On    2 years ago

Lol and they say it with a straight face as well.....

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
2  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

Some of them may be wrapping themselves in the Ukrainian flag but we know exactly where they stand!

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
2.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    2 years ago

I noticed Tucker bought one of those flags.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
2.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @2.1    2 years ago

The article is about the DSA.  The comment is about members of the DSA.  Your comment is about Tucker.  Sounds like a distraction.  Care to comment on "DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict," the DSA said in a statement.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.1    2 years ago
The comment is about members of the DSA.

Care to provide a link to their roll call?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.1    2 years ago

If some folks can't talk about Trump or Fox then they are seemingly and thankfully speechless.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
2.1.4  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.2    2 years ago

Deflection noted.  

Care to comment on "DSA reaffirms our call for the US to withdraw from NATO and to end the imperialist expansionism that set the stage for this conflict," the DSA said in a statement.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
2.1.5  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.1    2 years ago
The article is about the DSA.

This article is a squirrel hit piece.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
2.1.6  Right Down the Center  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    2 years ago

It says alot that no one from the left wants to denounce the statement.  I didn't think it would be so difficult.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Hallux @2.1.5    2 years ago
This article is a squirrel hit piece.

I think the left should be more appreciative of articles like this.

After all, it deflects away from Biden's lousy poll numbers and his domestic failures.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
2.1.8  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.6    2 years ago
It says alot that no one from the left wants to denounce the statement.

There are two within the article. Now how about the right denounce their own. 

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
2.1.9  Right Down the Center  replied to  Hallux @2.1.8    2 years ago

And the rest will not comment at all.  I am sure many read it.

And you are still deflecting from answering a simple question.

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
2.1.10  Hallux  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.9    2 years ago

Do I have anything to say about the DSA? Not really, they're neither worth it nor would they listen ... and no matter how much fabricated angst they arouse on the right, they are not a threat.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.4    2 years ago
Deflection noted.

Failure to specify who you are talking about is noted.  You will then continue to over generalize.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
2.1.12  Ronin2  replied to  Hallux @2.1.10    2 years ago

Believe the Republicans said the same thing about the Tea Party. 

In case those supporting Democrats haven't noticed they have taken a very hard left; and are still on that far left slide. Driving moderate members out as fast as they can.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Masters Guide
2.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.11    2 years ago

2.14 was a reply to you and you responded, yet you are saying I was not specific as to who I was talking about.  Now that's what I call high quality deflection.

And you still don't comment on the actual post.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
2.1.14  Sparty On  replied to  Right Down the Center @2.1.13    2 years ago
And you still don't comment on the actual post.

That’s his M.O. ...... deflect, redirect, obfuscate ..... SOSDD 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3  Ed-NavDoc    2 years ago

If those people were not so pathetic, they would almost be laughable!

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
4  Thomas    2 years ago

Well that is fine for the DSA, but what does Bernie say :

Senator Bernie Sanders (I-Vermont)  on Thursday issued the following statement after Russia invaded Ukraine:

“The Russian invasion of Ukraine that the world is witnessing today is a blatant violation of international law and of basic human decency. It may well kill thousands and displace millions. It could plunge Europe into long-term economic and political instability.

“The United States and our allies must impose severe sanctions on Vladimir Putin and his fellow oligarchs. At a time when thousands may die as a result of his war, Putin, one of the richest people in the world, should not be allowed to enjoy the billions he stole from the Russian people. The United States must also work closely with international partners to provide humanitarian relief for the Ukrainian people.”

BURLINGTON, Vt., Feb. 24 – Senator Bernie Sanders

And A.O.C. has this to say on Twitter :

Russia's invasion of Ukraine is indefensible. The U.S. is right to impose targeted sanctions on Putin & his oligarchs. We also must work with our allies to prepare for a refugee crisis on a massive scale. Finally, any military action must take place with Congressional approval.

So, the inclusion of Bernie Sanders picture at the head of the article is misleading. But, what else could we expect from such a fine journalistic outlet....

And, the DSA is onboard with pretty much all nations around the world outside of Russia when it states unambiguously that the invasion is an "illegal act", so what exactly was your point? Oh, yes. Non sequitur of someone who did not say what you allude to. Classic, underhanded smear.  Better wash your hands.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @4    2 years ago

Sanders and Cortez are members. Like I keep saying "Be careful who you associate with!"

 
 
 
Hallux
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 years ago

You should worry more about members of your entourage. It was nice to see Mitt Romney swat some of them.

 
 
 
Thomas
Masters Guide
4.1.2  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    2 years ago
Sanders and Cortez are members.

They are also individuals who may or may not agree with the organization. 

Like I keep saying "Be careful who you associate with!"

Guilt by association? What is this, a twofer logical fallacy day? 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5  Sparty On    2 years ago

This sounds more like a Russian disinformation campaign than anything else.    

Of course Putin seems to have many willing useful idiots in the DSA ranks.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sparty On @5    2 years ago
This sounds more like a Russian disinformation campaign than anything else.    

Has social media finally shut down the Kremlin posts?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    2 years ago

last time I looked FOX was still on the air and trumpski's truth platform was still up.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Ender  replied to  devangelical @5.1.1    2 years ago

That they say things like that with a straight face is comical, considering...

 
 
 
Nerm_L
Professor Expert
6  Nerm_L    2 years ago

The DSA is correct.  And people better start paying attention.

Ukraine seems to be portrayed as some sort of backwater undeveloped country whose economy depends on growing cabbages.  Ukraine's level of development and economic sophistication is much closer to that of France.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
7  Ronin2    2 years ago

I am far from pro Russian Government. Putin doesn't care about his people, his soldiers, or those working beneath him. For the good of Russia he needs to go; but the problem is the only way to remove him is physically from within- and chances are what will replace him will be far, far, worse.

The US needs to stay in NATO; but NATO needs to step up an honor their obligations militarily. NATO should be able to handle Russia by itself; allowing the US to concentrate all it's resources on containing China.

Also, all of the former Soviet NATO countries need to be held accountable to Democracy standards. Too many of them are Democracies in name only; and have human rights violations, limit political groups in elections,  imprison political opponents, and shut down press that doesn't agree with them. That needs to be corrected. It does not good to shut down Russia; but allow NATO members to carry on with the same old, same old. 

There is no good peaceful solution for Russia for those in power. They feel we have violated the spirit of what was promised by James Baker and Bush Sr after the fall of the Soviet Union; by flipping every former Soviet block country to NATO until now we are at their doorstep along their entire western border with Europe. We have pushed them from moderates that wanted to move Russia forward towards Democracy; and having a real economy- to Putin. I doubt Putin will trust the US/NATO no matter what is promised. We are on his ride until the end. Hopefully it won't be nuclear war.

 
 
 
Moose Knuckle
Freshman Quiet
8  Moose Knuckle    2 years ago

I hate to say it but the Democrat socialist are on the money here. Russia has been warning us for year to stop meddling in the Ukraine. We flipped their government and fanned the flames multiple times. When they were offered a horrible trade deal with the west and EU, we funneled cash into Ukraine to take out the government that passed and made a trade deal with Russia. It would have been foolish to take the deal with the EU. No problem, we will push the government out and get a west friendly one. 

NATO and the US is absolutely behind this conflict.

 
 

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