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Russian Orthodox leader says Ukraine invasion is part of struggle against 'gay parades' | TheHill

  

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Via:  jbb  •  2 years ago  •  28 comments

By:   Natalie Prieb (TheHill)

Russian Orthodox leader says Ukraine invasion is part of struggle against 'gay parades' | TheHill
A Russian Orthodox leader suggested last weekend that the country's invasion of Ukraine is part of an ongoing conflict to resist liberal pressure to hold gay pride parades, sparking backlash from other Orthodox churches in the region.

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A Russian Orthodox leader suggested last weekend that the country's invasion of Ukraine is part of an ongoing conflict to resist liberal pressure to hold gay pride parades, sparking backlash from other Orthodox churches in the region.

In a sermon on Sunday, Russian Orthodox bishop Kirill, an ally of Russian President Vladimir PutinVladimir Vladimirovich PutinRussian-American charged with illegally acting as an agent in the USOvernight Defense & National Security — More help headed Ukraine's wayHoyer says Russian gas ban is worth political costMORE, said that Ukraine was engaging in the "extermination" of Russian loyalists in the Donbas, a breakaway Ukrainian territory held by two Russian-backed separatist groups since 2014 that is now playing a key role in Russia's strategy.

Kirill made no mention of Russia's attacks on civilian areas, The Associated Press reported.

Kirill said that the Donbas separatists were sacrificing themselves for the "fundamental rejection of the so-called values that are offered today by those who claim world power." Kirill further claimed that liberal forces are presenting a "test for the loyalty" of countries by demanding they hold "gay parades" and join a club of nations with different ideas of freedom, according to the AP.

Kirill had previously avoided criticizing Russia's invasion of Ukraine, angering Ukrainian Orthodox churches that had remained loyal to the Orthodox leader even with geopolitical complications in their own country. A number of these churches have now excluded Kirill's name from public prayers and demanded separation from the Moscow church, the AP reported.

The Rev. Mykola Danilevich, a spokesperson for the Ukrainian Orthodox Church, said days before Kirill's most recent comments that many priests had stopped commemorating Kirill in church services.

"And the reason is obvious," Danilevich wrote before Kirill's sermon this past Sunday, according to the AP. "The treacherous open invasion of Ukraine is a huge mistake of Russia ... People did not hear from the patriarch a clear assessment of this war and his call to stop this madness."

After the religious leader's comments last weekend, officials in the Ukrainian Orthodox Church both in the country and around the world spoke out against the remarks. Clergy in the Lviv and Volodymyr-Volynskaare dioceses called for independence from the Russian Orthodox church on their Facebook pages, according to the AP.

Archbishop Daniel of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church of the USA also condemned Kirill's comments, calling them "incomprehensible."

"Regardless of our beliefs and regardless of our stance on social and moral issues, you cannot use that as a propaganda tool to justify the Russian invasion and the slaughter of innocent people," Daniel said, the AP reported.

The comments come after Putin tried to justify the Russian invasion into Ukraine last week by claiming that Russian forces were defending the country from neo-Nazi forces.


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    2 years ago

Bishop Kirill is the Russian version of Pat Robertson!

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

conservative xtian hypocrisy is consistent world wide...

 
 
 
Steve Ott
Professor Quiet
1.2  Steve Ott  replied to  JBB @1    2 years ago

The Russian Orthodox Church is essentially another state agency. Kirill was a KGB agent and now allowed to be top dog of Putin's church. He also said this was a 'metaphysical' battle. I guess all those civilian dead don't really exist.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
1.2.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Steve Ott @1.2    2 years ago

We all already knew that. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
2  Hal A. Lujah    2 years ago

Bombing maternity wards is an attack on gay pride?  Once again religion shows no respect for life once it has exited the womb.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2    2 years ago

Killing kids is not exactly respect for life either

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
2.1.1  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1    2 years ago

I sometimes if they respect any life at all or if everyone is expendable. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Veronica @2.1.1    2 years ago

The only "life" they respect is the one in the uterus

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
2.1.3  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.1.2    2 years ago

I don't know if they respect the "life" or if they just enjoy the control over women it grants them. 

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
2.1.4  charger 383  replied to  Veronica @2.1.3    2 years ago

I think you are right

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @2    2 years ago

That asshat is probably telling people that dead babies at least won't grow up to be gay.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2    2 years ago

They certainly don't grow up to be congregants in his church....

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
2.2.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2    2 years ago

… and that god made sure to only kill the ones that would grow up to be gay.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3  Kavika     2 years ago

Sad commentary on the Russian Orthodox Church and Kirill.

At least the remaining orthodox are condemning him.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4  Ender    2 years ago

For some reason gay people seem to make certain people quake in their boots.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
5  Trout Giggles    2 years ago

Look at that photo....lots of fancy garb. Even Pope Frank doesn't dress that fancy

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    2 years ago

It almost looks like old military garb.

 
 
 
Steve Ott
Professor Quiet
5.1.1  Steve Ott  replied to  Ender @5.1    2 years ago

That would be the 'armor of god'.

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
5.2  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @5    2 years ago

Think he is missing the ruby slippers.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.1  devangelical  replied to  Veronica @5.2    2 years ago

I was thinking granny panties...

 
 
 
Veronica
Professor Guide
5.2.2  Veronica  replied to  devangelical @5.2.1    2 years ago

Now that is stuck in my head - Thanks.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
5.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Veronica @5.2.2    2 years ago

believe me, that's the 3x edited version of my comment...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.4  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @5.2.3    2 years ago

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bbl-1
Professor Quiet
6  bbl-1    2 years ago

Religion is burden on society.

At least the Russian Orthodox Klan has impressive uniforms though. 

 
 
 
Freefaller
Professor Quiet
7  Freefaller    2 years ago

Sounds like he is simply trying to snuggle deeper into Putin's underpants

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
8  seeder  JBB    2 years ago

The Head Asshat must always have the biggest asshat.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
9  Gsquared    2 years ago

So, Kirill is worried about gay Nazi parades...

Putin has made anti-gay propaganda and policies a major part of his autocratic playbook for many years, including the claim that the so-called "gay agenda" is a Western assault on Russian culture.  Putin's anti-gay propaganda and policies are a primary reason that he has been so popular with many right-wing evangelicals in America.

This article is especially instructive: 

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Professor Guide
10  Thrawn 31    2 years ago

How in the fuck did this become about "the gays"? Not even Putin or Trump said something that retarded.

 
 

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