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Donald Trump Thought US Troops Were in Ukraine in 2017: Book

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  john-russell  •  2 years ago  •  36 comments

By:   Alia Shoaib (Business Insider)

Donald Trump Thought US Troops Were in Ukraine in 2017: Book
In a new book by ex-ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, she said Trump asked if US troops were in Ukraine's Donbas region at a meeting with then-President Poroshenko.

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  • Donald Trump asked if US troops were in Ukraine in 2017 at a meeting with then-President Poroshenko.
  • The revelation was made in a new book by former US ambassador Marie Yovanovitch.
  • "It was disconcerting that he did not seem to know where we had our troops deployed," she wrote.

President Donald Trump asked whether US troops were in Ukraine during an Oval Office meeting with then Ukrainian president Petro Poroshenko in 2017, according to a new book by former US ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, seen by The Guardian.

At the meeting, Trump asked his national security adviser HR McMaster if US troops were in Donbas, a territory in Ukraine claimed by Russian-backed separatists.

"An affirmative answer to that question would have meant that the United States was in a shooting war with Russia," Yovanovitch wrote in the book, according to The Guardian.

"It was disconcerting that he did not seem to know where we had our troops - his troops - deployed. I could only imagine what the Ukrainians were thinking."

In the same meeting, Trump also told Poroshenko that Ukraine "was a corrupt country, which he knew because a Ukrainian friend at Mar-a-Lago had told him," Yovanovitch wrote in the book, according to The Guardian.

She also claims Trump said, "Crimea was Russian, as the locals spoke Russian."

Russia invaded and annexed the Ukrainian peninsula Crimea in 2014 in a move widely condemned by the international community.

Yovanovitch said that others in the meeting "kept a poker face on" as then-President Trump made the cringe-worthy comments.

The former ambassador describes the meeting in her upcoming book, "Lessons from the Edge: A Memoir."

She served as US ambassador to Ukraine until she was removed from her post by Trump in 2019, amid his attempts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political rival Joe Biden by withholding military aid. The scandal ultimately led to Trump's second impeachment.

Yovanovitch writes in the book that she had the impression that "Trump had come into the meeting viewing Ukraine as a 'loser' country, smaller and weaker than Russia."

She added that "Trump's obsequiousness toward [Russian President Vladimir] Putin was a frequent and continuing cause for concern."

However, she wrote that Trump was surprised by Poroshenko, who was "as physically imposing as Trump" and "a billionaire businessman."

The revelations from Yovanovitch's book come weeks after Russian President Vladimir Putin launched a military invasion of Ukraine.

In recent weeks, Trump has continued to praise Putin for being "smart" and described his justification for invading Ukraine as "savvy" and "genius."


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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    2 years ago

There is a seemingly endless supply of anecdotes like this about Trump. How did such a clueless person become president of the United States? 

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

original

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JBB @1.1    2 years ago

Imagine if Joe Biden, or god forbid, Kamala Harris, had asked the president of Poland if the US had troops in Poland. We would never hear the end of it from the right. 

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.2  JBB  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 years ago

Or, just imagine that Obama offered Putin the bribe of a luxury penthouse in a secret deal to enrich himself personally and lied about it?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.1    2 years ago

Speaking of Kamala....the Dems have a real liability to deal with. How did such a clueless person ever become vice president?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.2    2 years ago
Or, just imagine that Obama offered Putin the bribe of a luxury penthouse in a secret deal to enrich himself personally and lied about it?

Tell me more of this tall tale of bribes. etc.!!!

Perhaps a link with FACTS would be helpful in proving this tall tale?

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bugsy
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1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.3    2 years ago
How did such a clueless person ever become vice president?

Race and gender.

No other reason.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.6  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.4    2 years ago
Perhaps a link with FACTS would be helpful in proving this tall tale?

This one has made the same accusation several times over the years, each time being debunked.

Not sure why his handlers have not told him that even they have moved on.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @1    2 years ago

When their base is also clueless, so is the one they elect.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.1  bugsy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.2    2 years ago

Yes..

Biden is the greatest example.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2  Paula Bartholomew    2 years ago

You would think that the CIC would know where our troops are in the world.  Maybe not the number of boots on the ground but at least their presence.  Instead, we had a clueless buffoon who gets his left sock confused with his right one.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2    2 years ago

Trump is not the CIC at the present time

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 years ago

No shit? 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1    2 years ago

Donald Trump asked if US troops were in Ukraine in 2017.

Try reading the first line of the seed.  He was the CIC then.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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2.1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1.2    2 years ago

What does that have to do with now?

DUH!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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2.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1.2    2 years ago

Spare me from any further replies Greg.  I only took you off ignore long enough to see what idiocy you came up with.  I was not disappointed.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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3  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

This is good stuff.  Keep piling on about how stupid a President must be to not know where his troops are deployed.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 years ago

People could document one million things wrong with Trump and you would still be doing whataboutism. 

Cut your losses for gods sake. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
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3.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    2 years ago

You should list your 150,000 lies….jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
zuksam
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3.2  zuksam  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    2 years ago

Trump probably confused the CIA presence with a Troop presence.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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4  Sunshine    2 years ago

Has anyone confirmed these accusations?

Sounds like another TDS book by a fired employee with an axe to grind. 

Biden never knows where he is much less where all the troops are.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sunshine @4    2 years ago

lol. Both your arguments fall flat. 

There are dozens of anecdotes about Trump being ignorant or clueless, especially about foreign affairs. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.1.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    2 years ago
There are dozens of anecdotes about Trump being ignorant or clueless, especially about foreign affairs. 

And pretty much every one of them debunked within a day of a book being released.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sunshine @4    2 years ago

Sounds like another TDS book by a fired employee with an axe to grind. 

Funny how the right doesn’t find anything unusual about the tremendous volume Trump’s employees that were fired, other than that they all just have truckloads of axes to grind.  Weird considering how Trump bragged so extensively about how he only hires the best people, drain the swamp, yada yada.  At some point these sycophants have to be asking themselves why the hell they are still defending the world’s most notorious moron.

 
 
 
Sunshine
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4.2.2  Sunshine  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2    2 years ago

Nobody has made up bs about Trump to sell books?  You honestly believe that?  Look at this site alone.  How many stories about Trump have been debunked?  Lot of questions.  Are you capable of answering honestly?

TDS sells more books to the drooling masses than porn from websites.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2.3  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  Sunshine @4.2.2    2 years ago

No, really - the enormous volume of accusations is clearly 100% false slander by axe grinders.  Coming from the guy who publicly, blatantly, and obviously lied on camera tens of thousands of times, how could anyone think otherwise?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.3    2 years ago

Its long past time to simply give up on many Trump supporters. They are hopeless cases. We just have to outlast them. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
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4.2.5  Sunshine  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2.3    2 years ago

Have any of her claims been substantiated?  It is amazing that the TDS sufferers still fall for anything after being duped so many times. 

Biden gives us proof everyday on national tv that he is bumbling idiot.  His staff has to give him picture books to make it through the day.  

Someday Trump will not control you…someday.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.2.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Sunshine @4.2.5    2 years ago

Most Trump supporters are beyond help. 

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
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4.2.7  Hal A. Lujah  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.6    2 years ago

TDS should be a term to describe those who still support Trump.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.2.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Hal A. Lujah @4.2    2 years ago

Trump recently did a phone interview and in only 12 seconds told 4 lies.  Only a really adept liar could accomplish that.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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4.2.9  Ozzwald  replied to  Sunshine @4.2.2    2 years ago
Nobody has made up bs about Trump to sell books?  You honestly believe that?

Why hasn't the extremely litigious Trump sued them?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.2.10  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ozzwald @4.2.9    2 years ago

He has so many failed court cases that Guinness is adding a new record to their book.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5  Texan1211    2 years ago

Gee, how is this relevant TODAY?

Is this posted in an attempt to deflect from the CURRENT mess in the WH?

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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5.1  Nowhere Man  replied to  Texan1211 @5    2 years ago
Is this posted in an attempt to deflect from the CURRENT mess in the WH?

Of course it is...

But for truths sake?

US troops take part in Ukrainian military exercise before Russian war game

From CNN of all places.... (do you think Trump would have not known)

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @5    2 years ago
Gee, how is this relevant TODAY?

It's not relevant in the least and also it's inaccurate.  It's just another "Buuutttt Trrruuummmppp" piece.

US Soldiers WERE in the Ukraine conducting training. But you can't expect the left to do any research on that.  It's straight out freak out mode for them.

 
 

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