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Florida court says teen is not 'mature' enough to have an abortion

  

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Via:  tacos  •  2 years ago  •  7 comments

By:   Corky Siemaszko (NBC News)

Florida court says teen is not 'mature' enough to have an abortion
A pregnant and parentless 16-year-old in Florida may be forced to give birth after an appeals court ruled she was not "sufficiently mature to decide whether to

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Link copied Aug. 16, 2022, 6:37 PM UTC By Corky Siemaszko

A pregnant and parentless 16-year-oldin Florida may be forced to give birth after an appeals court ruled she was not "sufficiently mature to decide whether to terminate her pregnancy."

The teenager, who is identified in court papers as Jane Doe 22-B, was appealing a decision by Circuit Judge Jennifer Frydrychowicz on Aug. 10 that blocked her from having an abortion without the consent of a parent or guardian, as required by Florida law.

At the time, the teenager was 10 weeks pregnant, the court papers state.

But the three-judge panel of the state's 1st District Court of Appeal, which covers northern Florida, sided Monday, for the most part, with Frydrychowicz.

The teenager "had not established by clear and convincing evidence that she was sufficiently mature to decide whether to terminate her pregnancy," the ruling by Judges Harvey Jay, Rachel Nordby and Scott Makar, states. "Having reviewed the record, we affirm the trial court's decision under the deferential standard of appellate review set out (in the consent law)."

Dissenting from the other judges, however, Makar wrote that the appeals court should send the case back to Frydrychowicz for the possibility of further consideration.

"The trial judge apparently sees this matter as a very close call, finding that the minor was 'credible,' 'open' with the judge, and nonevasive," Makar wrote. "The trial judge must have been contemplating that the minor — who was 10 weeks pregnant at the time — would potentially be returning before long — given the statutory time constraints at play — to shore up any lingering doubt the trial court harbored."

Makar noted that the teenager is "parentless," lives with a relative, but also has an appointed guardian. She was also savvy enough to do Google searches "to gain an understanding about her medical options and their consequences."

"She is pursuing a GED with involvement in a program designed to assist young women who have experienced trauma in their lives by providing educational support and counseling," Makar wrote. "The minor experienced renewed trauma (the death of a friend) shortly before she decided to seek termination of her pregnancy."

Makar also noted that in her petition, which "she completed by hand," the teenager insisted "she is sufficiently mature to make the decision, saying she 'is not ready to have a baby,' she doesn't have a job, she is 'still in school,' and the father is unable to assist her."

The "guardian is fine with what [she] wants to do" the teenager claimed, according to Makar.

The teenager's guardian and case worker were with her in court.

But "inexplicably," Makar wrote, the teenager "checked the box indicating she did not request an attorney, which is available by law for free under the statute."

Makar also noted that Frydrychowicz "displayed concern for the minor's predicament throughout the hearing."

"She asked difficult questions of the minor on sensitive personal matters in a compassionate manner," Makar wrote. "The trial judge's tone and method of questioning were commendable."

NBC News has reached out to Frydrychowicz, a registered Republican who also serves on the board of the Escambia Children's Trust, which runs educational and other programs for kids in the county, for comment.

Florida voters approved a constitutional amendment in 2004 that cleared the way for the state Legislature to pass a law requiring that parents or guardians be notified before minors have abortions.

But because some minors faced possible abuse if their parents found out they're pregnant, Florida lawmakers also included a legal process that made it possible for them to go to court to get around the rules.

Then in June of 2020, Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is also a Republican, signed SB 404, legislation which requires written consent from a minor's parent or legal guardian for an abortion.

"Thanks to Ron DeSantis, Florida is now forcing a teenager to give birth against her will," Florida Democratic Party spokesman Travis Reuther said in a statement. "That is an appalling and dangerous overreach by the Governor, who claims to represent the 'free state of Florida,' but wants to make women's healthcare decisions for them."

NBC News has reached out to DeSantis for a response.

Abortion rights in Florida were endangered even before the Supreme Court in June overturned Roe v. Wade. In April, DeSantis signed into law a measure banning abortions after 15 weeks of pregnancy, a measure that is being challenged in court.

190613-corky_siemaszko-byline1016.jpg Corky Siemaszko

Corky Siemaszko is a senior writer for NBC News Digital.


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Tacos!
Professor Guide
1  seeder  Tacos!    2 years ago

See if you can figure this one out.

This girl is apparently mature enough to handle being pregnant and give birth. She has to choose a doctor. She has to decide on pre-natal care. Vitamins. Which hospital. Anesthesia? C-Section? 

And she is apparently mature enough to be a mother. Who will be the pediatrician? Breast feeding or formula? Will the baby sleep on its back, belly, or side? What is the best diaper? How will mom handle a crying baby? The list of decisions is endless for a new parent.

But she’s not mature enough to decide whether or not to have the baby in the first place.

And then there is this apparent contradiction:

a decision by Circuit Judge Jennifer Frydrychowicz on Aug. 10 that blocked her from having an abortion without the consent of a parent or guardian , as required by Florida law.

and yet,

The "guardian is fine with what [she] wants to do" the teenager claimed, according to Makar.

So apparently, the guardian is not mature enough to make this decision, either.

 
 
 
Snuffy
Professor Participates
1.1  Snuffy  replied to  Tacos! @1    2 years ago
The "guardian is fine with what [she] wants to do" the teenager claimed, according to Makar.
So apparently, the guardian is not mature enough to make this decision, either.

yeah, I don't get it either.  If the law states that a minor needs approval from a parent or guardian, the teen in question has no parents and the guardian approves what's the problem?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
1.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tacos! @1    2 years ago
So apparently, the guardian is not mature enough to make this decision, either.

Didn't you hear? According to conservatives here a "woman who lacks the means to manage her fertility lacks the means to manage her life". So if someone gets pregnant, no matter how young, they should have any rights to their privacy and bodily autonomy as well as any parent or guardians rights handed over to right wing religious conservatives, mostly old white men in conservative leadership positions crafting anti-choice laws, who we just have to trust will make the best decisions for them. And rape is no exception, because if that girl didn't "manage" to fight off her rapist she clearly can't "manage" making decisions in her own life, right? /s

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
2  charger 383    2 years ago

But they think she is mature enough to raise a child? 

Who will pay the bills?

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
3  Kavika     2 years ago

JHC, talk about stupidity, what in the world are these judges thinking?

The 15 weeks law in Florida isn't actually 15 weeks it's from the last missed period, which can make it 11 weeks or even less.

I believe that the state court overruled it as the 15 weeks ban is unconstitutional under the Florida constitution.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
4  Gsquared    2 years ago

These judges are insane.  They should resign from the bench immediately and take up something they are qualified to do.  Maybe working at McDonald's.

 
 
 
TOM PA
Freshman Silent
5  TOM PA    2 years ago

Here's a crazy idea.  If you think a 16 year old, or a 10 year old, should have a baby let them adopt.  

 
 

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