Biden says son Beau 'lost his life in Iraq' during Colorado speech
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President Biden erroneously said on Wednesday that his son, Beau, "lost his life in Iraq" during a speech in Colorado.
President Biden erroneously said that his son, Beau, "lost his life in Iraq" during a speech in Colorado on Wednesday.
"I say this as a father of a man and won the Bronze Star, the conspicuous service medal, and lost his life in Iraq," Biden said.
Beau died of brain cancer in 2015.
President Biden speaks at the IBM factory in Poughkeepsie, New York, on Thursday. (The Image Direct for Fox News Digital)
Biden made the speech on Wednesday near Vail, Colorado, where he designated Camp Hale as a national monument.
Biden said in a 2019 speech that he believes Beau's "exposure to burn pits" in Iraq "in my view, I can't prove it yet, he came back with stage four glioblastoma. Eighteen months he lived, knowing he was going to die."
Fox News Digital has reached out to the White House for clarification on Biden's comment.
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What he hell?
The New York Times defends Biden's blatant lies by calling him a "storyteller."
Your obsession with trying to trip up Biden has become pathetic.
He said his son lost his life in Iraq because that is what he believes.
You never ever win these "arguments". I guess some people never learn.
Claiming someone has an obsession coming from you is hysterical.
Joe Biden is toast....not because his son and Biden himself peddled influence but because of what Biden did to this country.
Trust me John, this November they lose the House and because of the numbers shall barely lose the Senate 51-49.
Every time your foolish seeds are exposed as foolish you start mumbling about November. I guess you cant defend this foolish seed.
Get lost.
Down here on Planet Earth the seed speaks for itself. I'm waiting for your defense...Was there somebody a mile away waiting to shake his hand?
Ugh, vultures picking over Biden's dead son's bones. No shame.
Thats bad, but its just as bad that they actually think they are right. Kind of explains why this country is so fucked up.
Joe Biden is the vulture to blame for "picking over" Beau's bones. He created the lie about where ... and why ... Beau died. There's zero proof that Beau's glioblastoma multiforme was caused by proximity to burn pits.
Fact Check - Beau died at Walter Reed Hospital ... not in Iraq.
You just can't stop, can you ? Sad
Well, this explains why millions of Americans have been questioning Biden's cognitive ability for 2+ years! According to your statement, Joe Biden doesn't know (1) the differences and locations of Walter Reed Hospital and Iraq, and (2) where Beau died.
What should I "stop"? Please list the untruths of my comment 1.1.10. I look forward to your reply.
"Ugh, vultures picking over Biden's dead son's bones. No shame.
No.....Just Joe Biden exploiting his son's death. Ugh, shameful.
Biden believes Beau contracted brain cancer from burn pits in Iraq and he's probably right. And your peevish arguments saying he lied is peculiar and disgusting.
Among his many other "beliefs" ... Biden believes that he earned 3 degrees, graduated at the top of his class, was a full college professor, a civil rights freedom fighter, arrested and jailed, fought off a big bad black dude named Corn Pop, drove a tractor trailer, and was raised in a Puerto Rican neighborhood/society.
"I give you my word as a Biden. No hyperbole. I kid you not. C'mon man!"
Sorry, but you think Biden using his deceased son strictly for political gain is acceptable? No shame is right.
I don't think he used his deceased son at all.
Is he not allowed to bring him into the conversation ?
I did not say he was not allowed to mention his son. It is the context in which he did so that was objectionable.
No one is obsessed with tripping Biden up. He does that well enough on his own. The only ones here that are obsessed are those here with TRD.
I guess you don't
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Exactly, Beau's service and attributes might help cancel Hunter's corruption and self-service.
I'm surprised that we had our lawyers' anywhere near the burn pits.
Probably right does not validate what Biden said. He either lied or is not mentally fit to make such a statement.
Plenty of folk lost their lives in Nam and didn't even know it until they got back stateside. Agent orange (friendly fire) killed over 300,000 troops. Five times as many as the 58,000 who lost their lives to enemy bullets and bombs.
Seems the military can be slow to learn.
In all fairness, said camp(s) were in fact near the burn pits and/or in the path of prevailing winds. As a Army non combatant JAG officer, he could very well have worked at said camps and come in contact with toxic substances. Not picking sides here, just stating fact.
Storyteller? Is that a backhanded way of admitting that Biden is a fictional President?
As a Senator, Biden could be easily ignored. And it looks like Senator Biden became accustomed to getting away with saying anything. Now the press is only doing what it has always done with Biden for decades; ignore what Biden says and twist it to fit their own story.
What we're seeing is the status quo in action.
When I originally spotted this article, I had hopes that for once, the NYT would be completely unbiased. But, again, it disappointed.
Shear (a "veteran WH correspondent") and Qiu (a "fact check reporter") mostly stuck to their Biden "storyteller" vision and exposed their TDS in paragraph 6. Thereafter, they softened Biden's decades of lies and deceit even more as is evidenced in this quote:
That would imply they had integrity.
Biden’s cavalier claim of service-connected brain cancer is little more than a stick in the eye of those who had to fight their own government with incontrovertible proof of Agent Orange’s culpability in disease.
As somebody who lost a adult son myself, I do feel for the president. But to use said death solely for the sake of political pandering is inexcusable! Shame on Joe Biden.
You bet!
First, I hope you'll accept my deepest sympathy for the loss of your son. Even though I have two close friends who've lost their children, I cannot imagine the intense anguish a parent feels when his/her child dies.
Second, I agree that Biden's use of his deceased son for political pandering is inexcusable. In fact, it's despicable, in my opinion. His previous lies and pandering seem almost trivial compared to this one.
“As somebody who lost a adult son myself, I do feel for the president. But…”
Condolences, Doc. Sincerely.
But there is no but…as the loss informs every waking moment, as you sadly know.
Let us chastise away on any other subject…so how about we leave this one alone if for no other reason than to acknowledge the pain no parent should suffer.
Just my opinion. Peace to you and yours.
There is no virtue in lying.
So says the apologist.
My comment was directed to Ed. Yours missed the intent entirely.
Nobody missed it. You, like Biden seek to use sympathy to deflect.
The day we lose any sense of empathy, is the day we lose any sense of humanity and thus the day we are lost.
And for political expediency?
Simply sad, if not pathetic.
I have no empathy for a man who tells tall tales and shamelessly uses the memory of his son.
I think that Biden talks about his son too much. Biden has other fish to fry at this time. HOWEVER, there is nothing wrong with what he says. It is obviously what he believes and he might be right.
For "conservatives" to actually publicly complain about this, constantly, is pitiful.
But many of them are "gone", and not coming back anytime soon. It is up to the rest of us to work things out for the country.
And yet it was you who jumped on every word that came from the former PotUS. Turnabout.........it's fair play.
Your point is painfully obvious.
Lol
“Turnabout.........it's fair play.”
No…it’s but trading grade school taunts…and just how are we better served?
Again, and again, and again…simply pathetic.
Are you comparing Biden talking about his son to the crap that came out of the previous president's mouth 24/7 ?
Nope. Comparing the hypocrisy. That's all.
Trump is not the subject so do please try to stay on topic.
On top of losing my son, I lost his mother four months before him. It was a rough year.
I am sorry for your loss.
That said, there is some non-trivial probability that the president was just confused and misspoke. However, I think I find the pandering theory less worrisome.
This kind of stretching the truth is classic Biden. I do not approve of it, but this instance is largely harmless.
In fact this practice is common among politicians. Skipping over the abundant Trump examples, remember that Al Gore invented ("took the initiative in creating") the Internet? Now that is some impressive stretching.
It's pretty pathetic that a death is used like this. But then again, it is Biden.
Big deal.
Pretty pathetic coming from somebody that's been throwing a hissy fit over another politicians lies.
I dont think Biden was lying, I think he believes his son lost his life because of a cancer he got in Iraq.
Jan 11, 2018 · comments. Joe Biden has acknowledged that toxic military burn pits could have been a 'significant' factor that drove his son to an early death …
oh wait, its actually in the fucking article none of you seem to have read
And what does that have to do with what I said? The man lies ABOUT HOW HIS OWN KID DIES for political purposes and your response is "big deal".
Your hypocrisy is showing John.
Either way, he still tried to use his son's death for political gain.
He didnt lie. Seriously, do you know how to read? Biden says his son lost his life in Iraq because he believes his son's tour in Iraq caused his fatal illness.
Just this year there was legislation before Congress about the effects of these "burn pits". It's not something Biden made up.
Lol.
Yep that's what he said..........IN 2019. Not yesterday. He said "in Iraq". So I shall ask, do you know how to read?..............or listen?
Do you think he stopped believing it between 2019 and yesterday?
I suppose he could have said "because of Iraq " instead of "in Iraq", but most sensible people will actually understand what he meant. Its not that complicated.
[deleted] I know Biden uses a lot of small words, [deleted] but did you miss where he said "IN IRAQ"? [deleted]
Suppose all you want. What he said was "in Iraq". Now we have the normal fools trying to walk it back and give pathetic excuses for the human fuck up they put in the WH.
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And there it is. The expected personal insults we've come to know from you and those like you when people don't buy into your bullshit.
Facts:
“… I can't prove it yet…”
I read it and he never will prove a cause because sometimes life just sucks and you draw such a shitty hand you’re the first one out.
This seed is complete jackassery.
Biden clearly believes his son "lost his life" because of something that happened to him in Iraq. He may be right about that, he may be wrong, but it is not a "lie'.
Right wingers , please stop embarrassing yourselves , and this site.
Biden clearly stated that his son lost his life IN IRAQ. Watch the video in comment 1 and listen carefully. There's absolutely no credible way to spin what Biden actually said in Colorado.
The walk back of what Biden says continues.
Refusing to accept that Biden used his son's death in his speech solely for political gain, now that is truly embarrassing one's self.
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Also demeaning for those that did lose their lives. His son was not in combat. He was an attorney.
Pretty pathetic for the Commander in Chief.
Yep, serving in a combat zone does not equate to being in combat.
Wow, I didn't know this. Although I'm sad that Beau died at a young age, I didn't know that his time in Iraq from 2008-2009 was an office job and not on the front in actual combat.
Also - according to Biden's math, Beau returned from Iraq in 2009 and died from glioblastoma multiforme 18 months later, which would have been sometime between 2010 and 2011.
Fact check again: Beau Biden died in 2015.
Uh, a little reality check for you -
That is 22 months , more than 18 but much less than what you are trying to say.
More sheer stupidity. The 18 months refers to the time from cancer diagnosis to death (it was actually 22 months) and not to the year Beau Biden left Iraq.
Its just amazing the amount of information these right wingers misinterpret.
The walking back of what Biden says continues
Does it ever end?
Lol. If Trump made the exact claim, you and the fact checkers you cite would absolutely claim he was lying.
If Ivanka was hit by a car in Paris and then flown home to a U.S. hospital and died there, I would not rag on Trump for saying "she lost her life in Paris". It would be ridiculous to do so.
Biden is guessing his son's cancer was caused by being in Iraq. You call Trump a liar for stating facts because you would prefer a different interpretation of those facts. By that standard, it's perfectly justifiable to call Biden a liar for asserting the cause of his son's cancer without knowing the truth of it
You can do whatever you want. This harassment of Biden is petty.
Trump has done far far far more "making things up". They are not even in the same ballpark. They are not even in the same zip code, county state country or planet.
Are you watching the hearing today Sean? More overwhelming evidence that Trump approved of the Jan 6 insurrection as it happened.
“This seed is complete jackassery.”
Indeed. Time to step off before one lose one’s mind.
Peace, all.
He lied about his wife and kids being killed by a drunk driver too.
Exploiting his family tragedies isn't new.
I can't make fun of Joe anymore, I have a relative suffering from dementia.
Biden should not exaggerate this way. It is, in effect, misleading / dishonest even if Biden views Beau's cancer as coming from his tour of duty.
What amazes me though are those who rail on Biden, legitimately, for this gratuitous political dishonesty but give a pass to arguably the most outrageous liar who ever served as PotUS ... Trump.
Biden talking about his dead son is "gratuitous political dishonesty" ?
No, Biden suggesting that Beau "lost his life in Iraq" is gratuitous political dishonesty.
It connotes the idea that his son was killed during active duty in Iraq.
You're kidding, right? This story (Biden believing his son died from a cancer contracted in Iraq) is over 4 years old. By this time it is well known that this is what Biden believes. There is no political dishonesty in this at all. Personally I think Biden talks about his dead son too much. Maybe its because the other one is so troubled. But this has nothing to do with trying to take political advantage of something.
Believing that Beau died from cancer contracted in Iraq is not the same as believing Beau "lost his life in Iraq". The latter connotes "Beau died in action in Iraq".
Not necessarily.
Well of course not 'necessarily' but it surely is what most Americans would connote given the claim: "lost his life in Iraq".
"My son 'Fred' lost his life in Iraq." What does that mean to you, John? What is the most obvious meaning you would get if someone made that statement to you?
Well, he was on active duty, and Iraq was even a combat zone. So, he arguably could have said his son lost his life in combat, even though managing the pits is not exactly being under fire.
Even so, it’s still dangerous duty in a combat zone that may have ultimately killed him. Is the fact that it took a while important? I don’t know. Maybe.
Fair or not, there is a lot of comparing of valor (aka dick measuring) in the military and I think both veterans and their families feel it. It goes in both positive and negative directions.
On the one hand, you get loved ones like Joe, who seems to be inflating the valor of his son’s service.
On the other hand, I have known guys who served for years, but don’t think of themselves as “veterans” because no one ever shot at them - or even more extreme, they weren’t wounded in combat.
Do you think that would be accurate or misleading from the actual truth? Because Beau clearly did not die in combat.
I am not suggesting Biden just flat out lied. I am suggesting ... observing actually ... that Biden took a kernel of truth and spun it into a meaning (the natural interpretation) that is not true.
Beau may have died as a result of some kind of exposure in Iraq. It is possible. But Beau absolutely did not die while on duty in Iraq. He returned from Iraq in September, 2009 after finishing his tour of duty and was diagnosed with cancer in 2013 and later died from same in 2015.
I do not know about you, but I am against politicians (anyone) using language which misrepresents the truth.
Of course my underlying point was to note that many making a big stink about this misrepresentation do so after making excuses for Trump who will no doubt be the most dishonest, narcissistic PotUS in our history.
I think it depends on what the speaker is going for with his audience. If it’s an emotional conversation with a Dad, who is basically saying “the war killed my boy,” I don’t have a problem with it.
Sure, but the question is: “does that matter?”
Splitting hairs over this kind of thing is why a lot of Vietnam vets couldn’t get help for their exposure to Agent Orange.
It’s why people in New York who die from respiratory disease might not be thought of as direct victims of 9/11. That’s why we still fight over financial help for them and their families.
But he arguably died as a result of combat. We could spin ourselves round in circles all day over that one.
The political nature of this changes the whole calculus. What is Biden up to? I think it’s fair to speculate that he might be trying to get votes for his allies this November, and for himself two years from now.
On the other hand, maybe he was thinking about the fight to get Congress to grant more aid to veterans suffering from the effects of those burn pits. If that’s what he was up to, then I think I might be ok with it. The problem with that theory is that that victory was already achieved this year.
If you notice what I wrote @9, I started by acknowledging the validity of the complaint against Biden. I then went on to make the point that certain individuals make a big deal out of Biden's stretching the truth while giving arguably the worst liar in PotUS history (Trump) a pass (and even defending him).
Funny how I have spent all my time after my comment @9 dealing with objections to my acknowledging the validity of the complaint.
I would have thought the conservative members would be the one's up in arms. It is amusing that here the non-conservative (more independent, more D) members are the ones raising a stink.
Bingo!
I guess I don’t follow. Are you concerned that I think you haven’t acknowledged it?
I’m sure that’s true. Personally, I try to address each story on its own merits.
I’m afraid I haven’t been concerning myself with all that.
Well, they’re more mad that anyone sought to criticize him at all, aren’t they? That’s sort of par for the course.
Not concerned at all. I was noting that I acknowledged the validity of the complaint against Biden but noted by comparison with Trump how odd it is for people to be so worked up over this event given the over-the-top insanity of the immediately prior PotUS.
Nothing like insisting on splitting hairs on this one.
As I stated above, being in a combat zone does not equate to being in combat. In combat means in actual contact with enemy forces.
No, it is a way of phrasing something that not everyone agrees with.
If someone is buried in an avalanche in Italy , suffers great injury and then is brought back to the US and dies at home, would it be wrong for their family to say "she lost her life in Italy"? Of course not.
This entire thing is silly.
I agree that the uproar is silly. Note that you have jumped all over the Biden portion of my comment where I justifiably deem this to be misleading and gratuitous and thus diluted the impact of this point:
There are folks here who are getting all upset that Biden was misleading / dishonest yet give a pass to Trump who will very likely go down in history as the most dishonest, narcissistic PotUS of all time.
This article is about Biden and what he said, not about Trump.
Brilliant.
My comment was about Biden and what he said in comparison to Trump (the most recent PotUS).
Buy a vowel.
Again, what Biden said about his son has NOTHING to do with Trump.
Trying to make is about Trump is ridiculous.
Wrong. This seed is about Biden (the PotUS) exaggerating. Obviously there is nothing wrong with a PotUS relating to others who have or know sons who lost their lives due to military service. The complaint is not that he mentioned Beau but that he erroneously implied that Beau died in Iraq.
In short: the seed is attacking Biden for stretching the truth; not because he mentioned his son. Given the most recent holder of the office, jumping on Biden for this relatively minor offense is what is ridiculous.
The hypocrisy is from folks (like yourself) who jump all over Biden for a relatively minor stretching of the truth (and he is indeed guilty of that) while defending Trump (the most recent PotUS) who is arguably the record holder for PotUS' in terms of quantity and quality of flat-out lies.
See?
I would say that the hypocrisy is with those who dumped on Trump for every thing he said yet give Biden a pass for no matter what he does.
Your deflection/spin is once again noted
Exactly, both Trump and Biden avoided Military Service through dishonest means.
That’s a point of view I think I could forgive in a father. I’m not sure I would exactly phrase it as “lost his life in Iraq,” but I can see where a parent might come to think of it that way.
What complicates the discussion is the fact that Biden is a politician, and one who is particularly well-known for being full of shit - even about the deaths of his family members.
Biden has said at least twice (in political speeches) that his first wife and his daughter were killed when they were hit by a drunk driver, even though there has never been any evidence that the man was drunk and no charges were ever filed. In fact, the evidence is that Mrs. Biden drove out into the path of the truck.
So would Joe Biden stretch the truth about something so serious for political gain? Absolutely.
Why is it when Trump does it is lying; yet when Brandon does it becomes "stretching the truth"? Or a "Joeism"; or "alternate reality"; or "Joe being Joe"? Any euphemism to avoid what it really is, lying.
Joe has been doing it for decades to serve his own political gain. He needs to be held to the same standards the left and media held Trump to.
That sounds like a generality, unless you have some specific citation to something I have said? Regardless, I hope JR reads your comment so he can see how mean I am to Trump.
If someone takes a kernel of truth and exaggerates, that is what is meant by 'stretching the truth'.
Do you think it accurate to say that Trump 'stretched the truth' when he claimed that he won in 2020?
The reality is that there is no comparison between the lying of Trump — especially his Big Lie campaign — and the lies / exaggerations of Biden.
Trump made history; he will be, by far, the all time leader in flat out lying (both quantity and quality) and narcissism out of all PotUS' and it will be a record that likely will not be broken.
In Trump speak: 'Never has there been a PotUS who has lied more and with a level of dishonesty more than Trump'.
Apparently you missed my point again. My point is that while the criticism is valid, it is nit-picky and remarkable given many of those who would rail on Biden for his stretching the truth, routinely make excuses for the most prolific and extreme lying PotUS in US history (Trump).
My point (stated again @11.1.6) is that while the criticism is valid, it is nit-picky and remarkable given many of those who would rail on Biden for his stretching the truth, routinely make excuses for the most prolific and extreme lying PotUS in US history (Trump).
For further info, see TiG @9
Or is it possible that in Biden's possible deterioration of mental acuity he cannot tell the difference between stretching the truth or out and out lying either way?
Hey, GREAT post--------IF THE TOPIC WAS WHAT YOU WANT TO YAK ABOUT.
But--and correct me if I am wrong------the article was NOT about all that shit now was it? What do you say we get back on the topic?
Biden has exaggerated and embellished throughout his political career.
That is true, of course.
On the other hand, They did impeach Trump twice, and there are currently multiple investigations ongoing pursuing some kind of exposure and prosecution of his lies. The worst that is happening to Biden is a little criticism or mockery in the press and on the internet.
So, that all seems pretty fair. I don’t think anyone need be concerned that different behavior is being treated the same. It’s not.
A good example of where 'fair' is not 'right'. It would be 'fair' if every PotUS from here on out was impeached by the opposing party.
Our politicians are collectively a net negative for the health of our nation.
TDS is alive and well in some peoples heads.
TDS is more accurately applied to those who defend and support Trump. Those of us who clearly see the wrongdoing that Trump has done and the damage he has done and continues to do to the GoP and the nation are not the ones who are deranged. Delusion / derangement = supporting / defending Trump.
And note, Dennis, that I am responding to your comment which perpetuates talk of Trump in spite of your 'off topic' whining. If you do not want more Trump talk, don't egg it on.
Tell us all where Biden ranks on that list of lying presidents? Everything he utters is a lie. It just gets reclassified into a lesser offense by the media and his apologists.
Nobody compares to Trump. Amazing that you do not see this.
Further, I do not condone lying by any politician; there is no excusing deception by public officials.
One needs to have perspective and nothing comes close to Trump's Big Lie campaign and that is just his greatest set of lies. His history is replete with lies. So I have no respect for complaints about Biden's stretching of the truth and other harmless lies by those who give Trump a pass.
Yet you say nothing to those who continually dismiss the wrong doing and damage Biden has done. You know the southern border illegal alien crisis, the highest inflation rate in 40 years, the recession we are in, the end of energy independence and being a exporter or energy exporters, the highest gas prices ever, the sharp increase in murders and other violent crimes, all under his watch. None of that was true during Trump term., Quite the opposite was true. Please don't ask me to give thanks to Biden for his fuckups .
Oh and lts not forget his working with his son ton assist foreign governments and covering up his wrong doing.
And the same folks post seeds and articles day after day on any and all topics making Trump look bad true or not. And those same folks defend biden's lies wrongdoings and mistakes to the nth degree.
Even thru your own case of myopia?
Get a new line. The ‘you say nothing’ approach is both wrong and personal.
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That’s a point of view I think I could forgive in a father. I’m not sure I would exactly phrase it as “lost his life in Iraq,” but I can see where a parent might come to think of it that way.
Absolutely agree with that.
So would Joe Biden stretch the truth about something so serious for political gain? Absolutely.
Absolutely agree with that also.
The author of the book says it is likely , in his opinion, that Beau Bidens cancer came from exposure to the burn pits in iraq.
This disgusting article should never have seen the light of day. The notion that anyone, anyone can judge the words of a grieving father or suggest ulterior motives in his words is just obscene to me.
I hope anyone whose lost a loved one or will lose a loved one will never be castigated like this for their words of grief.
Maybe a charitable way to put it is that they cant help themselves.
It is to the left. It like holy water or sun light to a vampire.
I lost my only son and my wife four months apart and had somebody do exactly that to me right here on NT about two years ago so spare me. That person is still a active member to this day even after being reported.
I'm so sorry for your loss. I remember you talking about it. What a terrible thing to go through much less having someone, a stranger basically judge your grief.
So in the last month or so, he’s Asked to speak to a dead congresswoman, claimed he was raised by Puerto Ricans, wandered around and had to be escorted off a stage, wandered away during a hurricane briefing and now this.
Abe Simpson is our president.
Sadly that is true.
Shoot, Homer Simpson would make a better president than what we are stick with now.