Republican wants teacher to undergo 'Patriotic education"
Seems their claims of indoctrination are from themselves....
Ryan Walters, the Republican candidate for state superintendent in Oklahoma, is vowing to force all teachers in the state to undergo what is being described as "patriotic education" at a right-wing college in Michigan.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/oklahoma-gop-candidate-vows-to-make-teachers-undergo-patriotic-education-based-on-judeo-christian-values/ar-AA13mimZ?cvid=d982f1e183bc43a8a31eb749b4bc18fa
Didn't the Viet Cong try something like that and called then Re-Education Camps?
I could go back another 80 years about indoctrination tactics like mentioning the Hitler Youth but I don't want to bring Hitler or Nazism into this discussion
the parallels are unmistakable and consistent ...
Viet Cong? Seriously?
I'm not saying this is a good idea, but let's not get carried away.
Ok...you tell me who ran the re-education camps in Vietnam after the North Vietnamese won the war?
While I don’t think there will be torture and death, if it becomes law, there would have to be some penalty for non-compliance. At minimum, otherwise qualified teachers would be banned from teaching at public schools, yes? They’d lose their jobs?
And then even if they go through the training, they might still teach certain heresies, like Founders owned slaves, America actually does start wars, Natives got repeatedly screwed when the US failed to honor treaties, etc. and so forth. Then what? Fines? Jail time?
Re-education camps..... Riiiiiight.
You are unironically comparing teacher certification programs with "re-education camps". Riiiight.
Because that's not completely batshit or anything.
What does it sound like to you?
Call me batshit all you want but it won't hurt my feelings
Ostensibly. Assuming it passes. And assuming there aren't a million waivers because they already can't find enough teachers.
As I said, I'm certainly not endorsing the idea. I just think comparing it to forced re-education is melodramatic.
But as a former teacher, there is a copious amount of very stupid extraneous "training" you have to endure every year anyway, so I'm not sure this would be distinguishable from the rest.
Speaking of melodramatic....
I dunno.... do we have jail time for that kind of thing in any other job? Let's do remember that the constitution is a real thing.
I guess NFL players get fined for violating employer policies, but nobody seems to mind.
Maybe if they get harrassed enough some of these teachers will do what they should have done years ago.... move to Dallas for double the pay.
It sounds like yet another Oklahoma RWNJ having yet another bad idea that probably won't happen and even if it does will be little more than a mild inconvenience.
I didn't call you batshit. I called your overreaction batshit. Because it's ridiculous.
Your feelings are under your control and therefore are exclusively your concern.
That said, there isn't any way you actually think that this is anywhere close to Viet Cong re-education camps. It's utter nonsense and you know it. Your attempted defense of it indicates your feelings may be more involved than you want to admit.
These sorts of attempts to force "patriotism" are nothing but a last ditch effort to stop multiculturalism.
There are people, mostly on the right , who fetishize the "founding". Why? Because it represents a country founded by and populated by the "right" kind of people.
Exactly, just look at all the history books written about the "founding" and it's participants and ideas. Jon Meacham certainly fetishizes the founding.
Oh I think its possible to discuss and write about the founding without fetishizing it, but that is not what MAGA does. This wingnut candidate from Oklahoma wants all teachers to be brainwashed by Hillsdale College.
At the risk of fetishizing history, Hillsdale has an interesting one:
interesting. what year did the admin and faculty become dominated by thumper fucktards?
I don't know anyone on the faculty.
Clearly a bunch of racist bastards trying to "stop multiculturalism".
You're on the right track.
... yeah, that was my question...
Again, I'm not familiar with the faculty.
You cannot force patriotism.
Sure you can. Just ask the Uyghurs.