Trump-Era Chinese Spy Balloon Incursions Initially Went Undetected - The New York Times
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Via: jbb • last year • 13 commentsBy: Julian E. Barnes, Helene Cooper and Edward Wong (nytimes)
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Some earlier incidents had been classified as unexplained phenomena and handed over to a Pentagon task force charged with investigating U.F.O.s.
Intelligence officials say that Chinese spy balloons passed over the United States on at least three occasions during the Trump administration.Credit...Larry Mayer/The Billings Gazette, via Associated Press
By Julian E. Barnes, Helene Cooper and Edward Wong
Published Feb. 6, 2023Updated Feb. 7, 2023, 1:33 a.m. ET阅读简体中文版閱讀繁體中文版
WASHINGTON — The top military commander overseeing North American airspace said Monday that some previous incursions by Chinese spy balloons during the Trump administration were not detected in real time, and the Pentagon learned of them only later.
"I will tell you that we did not detect those threats, and that's a domain awareness gap," said Gen. Glen D. VanHerck, the commander of the Pentagon's Northern Command.
One explanation, multiple U.S. officials said, is that some previous incursions were initially classified as "unidentified aerial phenomena," Pentagon speak for U.F.O.s. As the Pentagon and intelligence agencies stepped up efforts over the past two years to find explanations for many of those incidents, officials reclassified some events as Chinese spy balloons.
It is not clear when the Pentagon determined the incidents involved Chinese spying. When the determination was made, officials kept the information secret to avoid letting China know their surveillance efforts were uncovered, the officials said.
In 2021, the intelligence agencies announced an intensified effort to collect more and better data on unexplained incidents near military bases and exercises. While part of a long-term push, those efforts have dramatically increased the percentage of unexplained incidents the Pentagon and intelligence agencies have been able to identify.
Jake Sullivan, the White House's national security adviser, on Monday credited improved surveillance under the Biden administration with detecting the balloon that passed over the United States last week.
"We enhanced our capacity to be able to detect things that the Trump administration was unable to detect," said Mr. Sullivan, speaking at an event hosted by the U.S. Global Leadership Coalition.
American officials, who like others in this article spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive deliberations, have identified at least one other previous incursion during the Biden administration. It is not clear when that incident happened.
John F. Kirby, a National Security Council spokesman, said on Monday that Chinese spy balloons passed over the United States on at least three occasions during the Trump administration.
"From every indication that we have, that was for brief periods of time — nothing at all like what we saw last week in terms of duration," said Mr. Kirby, referring to the balloon that spent much of last week traversing the country before the United States shot it down.
The Chinese Spy Balloon Showdown
The discovery of a Chinese surveillance balloon floating over the United States has added to the rising tensions between the two superpowers.
- A Diplomatic Crisis: How did a Chinese balloon end up triggering a high-stakes dispute between Washington and Beijing? "The Daily" takes a look at the tense saga.
- Xi's Leadership : The balloon flap has raised concerns about how Chinese leader Xi Jinping's government wields its power in a climate where one wrong move could set off a conflict.
- More Than Spying : There's nothing new about superpowers spying on one another — even from balloons. But in terms of pure gall, there was something different this time, David E. Sanger writes.
- Echos of the Cold War : The balloon saga seemed eerily reminiscent of the U-2 spy plane incident in 1960 that provoked a tense confrontation between the United States and the Soviet Union.
Senior Trump administration officials said they were never briefed about incursions by Chinese spy balloons while they were in office. Mr. Trump, on his social media site Truth Social, called the claims of intrusions during his administration "fake disinformation," and his last director of national intelligence, John Ratcliffe, has also denied it.
A Biden administration official said on Sunday that intelligence officials could offer briefings on China's balloon surveillance program — which has sent airborne machines over five continents — to key former officials from the Trump administration.
General VanHerck said U.S. intelligence had figured out that some of the unexplained incidents were in fact spy balloons based on "additional means of collection."
Neither General VanHerck nor Mr. Kirby described how they gathered additional information to determine which of the unexplained incidents involved surveillance balloons.
Balloons account for many of the unexplained incidents the Navy and other military services have tracked in recent years. The previous incidents, like other unexplained events, were handed over to a Pentagon task force charged with investigating U.F.O.s and other aerial phenomena.
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One U.S. official said previous incursions occurred mainly in coastal locations. Multiple kinds of spy balloons have been detected around the world in recent years, the official said. Some were small and fast; others — like last week's intruder — were bigger and slower moving.
The earlier Chinese balloons remained secret because intelligence officials typically do not want adversaries to know their surveillance efforts have been discovered.
The intelligence community issued its first public report on unknown incidents in 2021, but that document failed to offer explanations for all but one of the 144 incidents it looked at.
After that report, the Pentagon and intelligence agencies began to intensify efforts to attribute and explain more incidents. Last year they participated in an open hearing with the House Intelligence Committee, and the Biden administration offered a closed-door briefing to Congress on Chinese surveillance efforts in August, according to a White House spokeswoman.
A follow-up report on the unexplained incidents was delivered to Congress last month and looked at 366 additional reports. While 171 remained unexplained, the report labeled 163 of them as balloons.
Although there has been speculation by the public and lawmakers that some of the unexplained incidents reported by military pilots and recorded by Navy and Air Force sensors could be signs of extraterrestrial activity, U.S. officials working on the issues have said they believe they are surveillance activity or airborne trash.
U.S. officials believe that, in addition to the balloon surveillance, China has used quadcopter drones to spy on the U.S. military. A classified report sent to Congress last month said at least two incidents of surveillance by a foreign power may have involved advanced technology poorly understood by the United States.
While that report did not attribute those incidents to a specific country, two American officials said it is likely those incidents involved Chinese efforts to spy on military installations.
It is not yet clear what the balloon that transited the United States last week was surveilling. But American officials believe previous incidents of Chinese surveillance involved efforts to learn more about pilot training and how the United States coordinates military weaponry to amplify its combat effects.
American officials said they are continuing to try to recover parts of the balloon that was shot down on Saturday, once it had moved over the Atlantic Ocean.
Mr. Kirby, the National Security Council spokesman, said that finding debris and examining it will take some time. "They have recovered some remnants off the surface of the sea," he said, but he added that weather conditions "did not permit much undersea surveillance of the debris field."
American officials, Mr. Kirby said, have determined that the balloon was maneuverable. "It is true that this balloon had the ability to maneuver itself," he said. "So it had propellers. It had a rudder, if you will, to change direction." He said that the jet stream provided the rest of the balloon's propulsion.
State Department officials said Monday that they would still try to maintain dialogue with senior Chinese officials even as the two nations assess the fallout from the incursion last week and the diplomatic confrontation over it. They said officials in Washington and Beijing have not begun talks to reschedule the trip to China that Antony J. Blinken, the U.S. secretary of state, canceled on Friday during the public uproar. He had been expected to meet with President Xi Jinping of China.
Ned Price, the State Department spokesman, said officials would determine later "when it's appropriate to potentially look to travel to the P.R.C. to have the type of discussion that we think is incumbent for our countries to have" — referring to the People's Republic of China.
Ryan Hass, a former U.S. diplomat and White House official who is a China scholar at the Brookings Institution, said leaders in the two nations would likely adopt a practical approach to managing the relationship despite tense recent episodes.
"The news cycle will move on, and the same challenges in the relationship will remain," he said. "Both leaders recognize the need to manage risk through direct, hard-nosed diplomacy."
Mr. Kirby said Mr. Blinken had been headed to China to begin restoring communications between the two governments — on climate and on military issues — that had been severed by the Chinese in the wake of former Speaker Nancy Pelosi's visit to Taiwan last year. President Biden and Mr. Xi had agreed at a meeting in Bali, Indonesia, in November that the two governments should restart climate discussions.
But the balloon incident has put efforts to restore those communications on hold, Mr. Kirby said, adding that Mr. Blinken's meeting was meant "to work through some of those difficulties and find a way to to get the relationship on a better footing."
"Clearly this incident hasn't helped that process," he said.
Michael D. Shear contributed reporting.
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Yep, the article proves that the Trump administration was not briefed or informed of the alleged observations.
If Trump had been advised of the spying and chose to do nothing, he was disliked enough that the word of a lack of response would have been released to the media.
It also speaks to the competence of the military under Trump.
And the Democrats and the liberal left would launch into even more bullshit than we've already seen.
What new / additional means of detection were created since Trump's time? The balloon was over fifteen miles up, well over twice the altitude for commercial jets.
I'll wait a bit .....
The Chinese made it big enough to be visible to civilians with the naked eye from the ground.
Thanks.
My question is that if they didn't detect them back then, how do they know they were there now?
If your asking questions, don't stop there. Where did they go/end up after their incursion? If they were gathering information and didn't transmit any then where was their collection point going to be? Were the Chinese going to wait until the balloons somehow made it back to China or was there records of Chinese freighters/trollers in international waters at the same time of the incursions? Now was any of this in place for this one? If they weren't intended to transmit data until they left the US then transmit out of US reach where were the receivers ship, planes, land, or satellite? And last (for this is the only time I have) is this the same balloon it just didn't come down yet until it was shot down?
Why in the world would you think they didn't transmit any? You are pulling that assumption out of empty air, and it would go against any and all logic.
Same balloon as during the Trump administration? Again, that is another unfounded and illogical assumption you are making.
If it was transmitting, while it was over the US, wouldn't we have detected it? So far I've not heard about it sending out transmissions and if it wasn't then it would have to be downloaded later.
Being the same balloon was sarcasm, I thought it was kind of obvious, because we do know when this one was launched.
No. We do not have the technology to simultaneously monitor every possible channel that it could use, plus any data would probably be transmitted in bursts of possibly even less than a second each.
Did you really expect the military to announce to the world that it has broken Chinese encryption of its covert radio traffic?
You may have intended it as sarcasm, unfortunately I did not pick up on that. In my defense however, I did have a conversation yesterday with someone else who was convinced that it was the same balloon that just kept passing by as it continuously circled the globe. His thought was that we could back track it by determining its speed to see how many times it had passed by.
So they still don't know what those "unidentified aerial phenomena" really were but it's now politically convenient to reclassify them. Sounds like a solid plan.
Meanwhile no evidence has been presented at all to show that the previous incursions may have even happened. All we have is the word of someone.
So no evidence other than the word of an unidentified senior official and a press secretary from the DOD (not that we've ever seen a press secretary lie, have we?). I'll wait for now, but until evidence is actually presented this remains a partisan political activity.
Which is the reason it was kept secret from the Trump administration completely. What a load of BS.
Which is the reason Brandon waited until the spy balloon meandered it's way across the entire US soaking up everything it could. Instead of shooting it down over the Pacific or Alaska when it first entered US air space. The Brandon administration didn't even acknowledge the spy balloon's existence until it was spotted over Montana and there was no way of denying it.
We can now add the military to the IRS, DOJ, and FBI as parts of the government that have been weaponized by Democrats against their opponents.