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Ron DeSantis gaining on Trump in Iowa, in virtual tie, internal poll shows

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  vic-eldred  •  last year  •  74 comments

By:   Samuel Chamberlain (New York Post)

Ron DeSantis gaining on Trump in Iowa, in virtual tie, internal poll shows
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is closing the gap on former President Donald Trump in the early nominating state of Iowa.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is closing the gap on former President Donald Trump in the early nominating state of Iowa, according to an internal poll out this week.

The survey by WPA Intelligence for the DeSantis-supporting Never Back Down super PAC showed the 44-year-old governor in a virtual tie with the 76-year-old Trump in a head-to-head contest.

Trump had 45% support, while DeSantis had 43% support and 12% were undecided.

An early May head-to-head poll, taken before the Florida governor formally entered the race, showed Trump with 53% support, DeSantis on 39% and 8% undecided.

DeSantis also made up ground on Trump in an Iowa survey that incorporated the full field.

In that poll, Trump had 39% support, DeSantis had 29%, Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) had 7%, and former Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley had 6% support.

Former Vice President Mike Pence and tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy each had 4% support, while none of the other contenders cracked 1%.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is closing the gap on former President Donald Trump in the early nominating state of Iowa.AP

In early May, the same survey found Trump had 48% support, DeSantis had 24% and Haley had 10% support, with no other candidate topping double figures.

"The Republican presidential caucus is a two-person race between Governor Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump," wrote WPA CEO Chris Wilson and managing director Conor Maguire, both advisers to Never Back Down.

"Despite heavy media attacks against Governor DeSantis, along with some rallying to Donald Trump following the New York indictment, DeSantis' ballot share has grown in the past month while no other candidate exceeds single digits."

The survey by WPA Intelligence for the DeSantis-supporting Never Back Down super PAC showed DeSantis in a virtual tie with Trump in a head-to-head contest as Trump had 45% support and DeSantis with 43% support.AP

The poll also found that three-quarters of likely Iowa GOP caucus-goers had a favorable view of DeSantis, while just 17% had an unfavorable view.

The governor had his highest favorability among men (80%) and women (79%) who held at least a college degree, while his favorability scores among Iowans without college degrees stood at 69%.

The survey also showed DeSantis edging Trump 46% to 45% among self-described Christian conservatives, who Wilson and Maguire said make up nearly half the Iowa Republican electorate.

The poll was released after DeSantis and his wife Casey kicked off his campaign last week with a whirlwind tour of Iowa and the early primary states of New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Trump also visited Iowa last week, holding a town hall with Fox News host Sean Hannity.

Trump still holds a sizable lead over DeSantis in public polling of the Hawkeye State.

The RealClearPolitics polling average in Iowa shows the former president on 47.7%, DeSantis at 25.3%, Haley on 5.3%, Pence on 3.7% and Ramaswamy rounding out the top five at 2.3%.

The 45th president's lead over his competitors is even wider among national Republican voters.

The RealClearPolitics average shows Trump on 53.2%, DeSantis on 22.4%, Haley on 4.4%, Pence on 3.8%, and Ramaswamy again in fifth averaging 2.6% support.

WPA Intelligence surveyed 655 likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers May 30 and June 1.

The poll's margin of error was plus-or-minus 3.8 percentage points.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

Oh well, this is what many on the radical left feared.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    last year
Oh well, this is what many on the radical left feared.

Why do you call them the 'radical left'?   The D party in general would prefer to run against Trump, not just the 'radical' elements.   And certainly you understand that not all Ds are 'leftists'.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    last year

one notch left of center is considered radical left by the radical right.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  seeder  Vic Eldred    last year

“The grift from this family is breathtaking,” Chris Christie said at a New Hampshire town hall. “It’s breathtaking. Jared Kushner and Ivanka Kushner walk out of the White House, and months later get $2 billion from the Saudis.”

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Christie is a great debater, but he can't seem to control who benefits from his skills. In 2016 he took down Marco Rubio and it benefited Trump. Now he starts in on the Trump family. Where will that lead?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    last year
Where will that lead?

...court, prison.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @2.1    last year

For whom?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @2.1    last year
...court, prison.

Trump's going to get a cell mate?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.2    last year

probably not a family member, but hopefully a hardened convict that can fully appreciate a cellmate that can't keep his mouth shut...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.2    last year
Trump's going to get a cell mate?

I doubt that the Secret Service would allow that.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.4    last year

bad laws get amended all the time...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @2.1.5    last year

What law are you talking about?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.6    last year

lifetime secret service protection, for a convicted and federally incarcerated felon. redundant.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @2.1.7    last year
redundant

Exactly, prisoners are never harmed while in federal prison.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.8    last year

in that particular case, who cares?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @2.1.3    last year

probably not a family member, but hopefully a hardened convict that can fully appreciate a cellmate that can't keep his mouth shut...

Being unable to keep your mouth shut is definitely an attractive quality in most prisons.  Hopefully he will bring his own kneepads.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @2.1.9    last year

Those responsible to uphold the Former Presidential Protection Act.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.10    last year

Is that a homophobic comment?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.13  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.12    last year
Is that a homophobic comment?

Please post the definition for "homophobic" then look at my comment again.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.14  George  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.12    last year

Yes. Or advice based on personal expierence

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.15  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.13    last year

Perhaps Heterosexism is more to the point.  Is your belief that being heterosexual is the only "right" or "natural" way to be so you slur homosexual acts?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.16  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.15    last year
Perhaps Heterosexism is more to the point.

Please post the definition for "Heterosexism" then look at my comment again.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.12    last year

Maybe the comment caused excitement when the reader looked at the possibilities.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    last year

Ain't over till the fat lady sings.  

I think Trump is going to get hit from all sides in the coming months. Some like Christie will attack head on. DeSantis will be more subtle and subdued with his responses and retorts to Trump's childish rants. As time goes by I think a growing number of election deniers will come to realize that Trump doesn't have a clue or a plan. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @3    last year
As time goes by I think a growing number of election deniers will come to realize that Trump doesn't have a clue or a plan. 

It's about winning my friend. If Trump is going to bring out every hate-filled moron on the left, we have to go with someone else. We are lucky to have a much younger and more effective model in the wings.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year

DeSantis will never be president. Abortion by itself will sink him. 

Of course there are many other reasons as well. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year
If Trump is going to bring out every hate-filled moron on the left

You consider those who would vote against Trump to be "hate-filled moron"s?   

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.2    last year

Well, here I am a hate-filled moron because I won't be voting for trmp.

Thanks, Vic for telling me what I am. It's always good to get the best information to start the day

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    last year

Same here.   I find it unpatriotic, irrational and irresponsible to vote for Trump.   I could, however, make a case that many who would vote 'for' Trump for PotUS could be described as "hate-filled morons".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    last year

always consider the source. it's best not to pay much heed to extremists and fanatics. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    last year

You could, but you won't because you are a decent human being

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    last year

Oh I just might.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    last year

I want him to come right out and call me a hate-filled lefty moron. He certainly implied I am and everyone else here who won't be voting for trmp

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.8    last year

Actually I think he was referring to what happened in 2020. A total of voters for the record books. Many of whom probably would not have voted otherwise except for the fact it was made easier by new rules supposedly brought on by covid. Mail in.

256

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.9    last year

Let Vic speak for himself, please

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.10    last year

Not a problem.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.2    last year
You consider those who would vote against Trump to be "hate-filled moron"s?   

That isn't what he wrote.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.13  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.9    last year

This is a good one!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.12    last year
If Trump is going to bring out every hate-filled moron on the left

I know you and a few others think I and others here are hate-filled morons. Have the guts to say it. Call us out by name and say what you really feel

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.15  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.14    last year
If Trump is going to bring out every hate-filled moron on the left

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.14    last year
I know you and a few others think I and others here are hate-filled morons.

“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

― Ronald Reagan

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.16    last year

what's that got to do with the price of beer in Texass

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.17    last year

Obtuse.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.12    last year
That isn't what he wrote.

It would be pointless for me to simply repeat what he wrote.   That does not establish anything.   So instead I posed a question so that Vic can tell us 'no, that is not really what I meant' or 'yes, that is my position' or something else that is clearer than what he wrote.

See?

Notice the question mark in what you quoted.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.18    last year

there ya go with the name calling

 
 
 
George
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3.1.21  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.9    last year

Unfortunately the government doesn’t support “Buy America Act” when purchasing politicians through the mail. We ended up with cheap Chinese knock-offs.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @3.1.21    last year

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Texan1211
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3.1.23  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.20    last year

I did not call you anything at all.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.24  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.19    last year

Yeah, I won't parse words with you. You either read and comprehended what he wrote or you don't.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.24    last year

Do you truly not comprehend that I asked Vic a question to prompt him to be clearer?    Or are you just trolling?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.26  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.25    last year

I comprehend you asked a question.

I also believe you understood what he wrote but you seem intent on proving me wrong there.

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.27  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.25    last year

the latter...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.28  Greg Jones  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.14    last year

"Call us out by name and say what you really feel"

No need to do that, which would only generate tickets. 

Judging by the quality, or lack of it in many comments here, the description is pretty accurate 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.29  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.25    last year
Do you truly not comprehend that I asked Vic a question to prompt him to be clearer?    Or are you just trolling?

Take a wild guess. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.29    last year

Did you take time to read Vic's comment?

Did you comprehend it if you read it?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.31  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.20    last year
there ya go with the name calling

Obtuse was a direct reference to what you posted, not you personally.

Everything isn't about you.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.32  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1.28    last year

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Ender
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3.1.33  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    last year

Watching that first one, I can see why we are at the point we are at...

Holy cow...

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1.34  charger 383  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    last year

To prevent it from getting worse, this thread is locked, charger

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4  MrFrost    last year

I am enjoying watching the radical right eat itself. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    last year
DeSantis also made up ground on Trump in an Iowa survey that incorporated the full field.

In that poll, Trump had 39% support, DeSantis had 29%, Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) had 7%, and former Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley had 6% support.

Former Vice President Mike Pence and tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy each had 4% support, while none of the other contenders cracked 1%.

In other words the New York Post headline is considerably misleading. Trump leads DeSantis by 10 percent.  There is no "head to head" in a primary with 7 or 8 candidates. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5    last year
In other words the New York Post headline is considerably misleading. Trump leads DeSantis by 10 percent. 

It is not misleading, one just has to read BEYOND the headlines.

In early May, the same survey found Trump had 48% support, DeSantis had 24% and Haley had 10% support, with no other candidate topping double figures.

Admittedly I never majored in math, but isn't 10% less than 24%?

DeSantis HAS closed the gap according to the poll.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1    last year
And he has a lot of time to close it even further. 
The lefties appear to be so hate filled and angry and full of moronic ideas that they can't seem to discern the truth of what is really going on.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.1    last year

I just don't like when something is called misleading because readers didn't read the article, just the headline, which was created to get clicks.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1    last year
In other words the New York Post headline is considerably misleading. Trump leads DeSantis by 10 percent. 
It is not misleading, one just has to read BEYOND the headlines.

Is that the kind of thinking a Texas education gets you? 

I say the HEADLINE is misleading, and you say "look beyond the headline."

Why would I look beyond the headline when I am talking about the headline? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.2    last year

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Texan1211
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5.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    last year

Because I know headlines don't tell the whole story and I am curious enough to read the whole thing.

let me know after you read the article if it is still misleading to you.

 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.2    last year

Just to make it clear to you, the headline claims Trump and DeSantis are in a virtual tie in Iowa. 

That is true only when you make it a head to head contest, which is NOT what the Iowa caucuses will be. There are 6 to 8 other candidates AND THERE WILL BE ON CAUCUS DAY. 

The New York Post cherry picked which element of the poll they wanted to emphasize, and they chose the misleading element because it made DeSantis look better. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.5    last year

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Texan1211
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5.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.6    last year

Look, JR, it has always been clear to me since I read the article.

I hope the same for you.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.7    last year

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Texan1211
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5.1.10  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.6    last year

You know, people who know polls know that if a spread is around 2, it usually falls within the margin of error.

Now, I can understand your angst over this if you don't think 2% with a margin of error isn't a virtual tie, but I can't change that.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.3    last year
Why would I look beyond the headline when I am talking about the headline? 

So you could speak as an informed person on the entire article, not a cherry-picked HEADLINE?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6  Nerm_L    last year

Even Hillary Clinton couldn't save Trump now.   Republicans have the advantage this time.  With a rather diverse field of candidates, Republicans have a chance to address every issue and voter concern with a viable choice.  

Democrats are stuck with Biden till the bitter end.  And as the 6 week Presidential campaign nears (14 months from now) Democrats will have twisted themselves into pretzels.  Democrats are going to try a woke blitz but, inevitably, the woke fringe must be thrown under the bus to appeal to normal independents.  Biden will have to hide his entire cabinet in the basement.

The only way Biden has a chance this time is to become Trump.  The country is growing tired of the stupid woke left-wing extremism; the blowback is becoming too conspicuous to obscure with woke smoke any longer.  Going woke won't be a winner for Biden.  So, Biden has to become Trump.  And Republicans are already primed to run against Trump.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @6    last year

My that's a lot of 'wokes', careful the letters on the keys will wear out ... @!@

 
 

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