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Ron DeSantis gaining on Trump in Iowa, in virtual tie, internal poll shows

  

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Via:  vic-eldred  •  2 years ago  •  74 comments

By:   Samuel Chamberlain (New York Post)

Ron DeSantis gaining on Trump in Iowa, in virtual tie, internal poll shows
Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is closing the gap on former President Donald Trump in the early nominating state of Iowa.

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Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is closing the gap on former President Donald Trump in the early nominating state of Iowa, according to an internal poll out this week.

The survey by WPA Intelligence for the DeSantis-supporting Never Back Down super PAC showed the 44-year-old governor in a virtual tie with the 76-year-old Trump in a head-to-head contest.

Trump had 45% support, while DeSantis had 43% support and 12% were undecided.

An early May head-to-head poll, taken before the Florida governor formally entered the race, showed Trump with 53% support, DeSantis on 39% and 8% undecided.

DeSantis also made up ground on Trump in an Iowa survey that incorporated the full field.

In that poll, Trump had 39% support, DeSantis had 29%, Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) had 7%, and former Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley had 6% support.

Former Vice President Mike Pence and tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy each had 4% support, while none of the other contenders cracked 1%.

Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis is closing the gap on former President Donald Trump in the early nominating state of Iowa.AP

In early May, the same survey found Trump had 48% support, DeSantis had 24% and Haley had 10% support, with no other candidate topping double figures.

"The Republican presidential caucus is a two-person race between Governor Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump," wrote WPA CEO Chris Wilson and managing director Conor Maguire, both advisers to Never Back Down.

"Despite heavy media attacks against Governor DeSantis, along with some rallying to Donald Trump following the New York indictment, DeSantis' ballot share has grown in the past month while no other candidate exceeds single digits."

The survey by WPA Intelligence for the DeSantis-supporting Never Back Down super PAC showed DeSantis in a virtual tie with Trump in a head-to-head contest as Trump had 45% support and DeSantis with 43% support.AP

The poll also found that three-quarters of likely Iowa GOP caucus-goers had a favorable view of DeSantis, while just 17% had an unfavorable view.

The governor had his highest favorability among men (80%) and women (79%) who held at least a college degree, while his favorability scores among Iowans without college degrees stood at 69%.

The survey also showed DeSantis edging Trump 46% to 45% among self-described Christian conservatives, who Wilson and Maguire said make up nearly half the Iowa Republican electorate.

The poll was released after DeSantis and his wife Casey kicked off his campaign last week with a whirlwind tour of Iowa and the early primary states of New Hampshire and South Carolina.

Trump also visited Iowa last week, holding a town hall with Fox News host Sean Hannity.

Trump still holds a sizable lead over DeSantis in public polling of the Hawkeye State.

The RealClearPolitics polling average in Iowa shows the former president on 47.7%, DeSantis at 25.3%, Haley on 5.3%, Pence on 3.7% and Ramaswamy rounding out the top five at 2.3%.

The 45th president's lead over his competitors is even wider among national Republican voters.

The RealClearPolitics average shows Trump on 53.2%, DeSantis on 22.4%, Haley on 4.4%, Pence on 3.8%, and Ramaswamy again in fifth averaging 2.6% support.

WPA Intelligence surveyed 655 likely Iowa Republican caucus-goers May 30 and June 1.

The poll's margin of error was plus-or-minus 3.8 percentage points.


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Vic Eldred
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1  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

Oh well, this is what many on the radical left feared.

 
 
 
TᵢG
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1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    2 years ago
Oh well, this is what many on the radical left feared.

Why do you call them the 'radical left'?   The D party in general would prefer to run against Trump, not just the 'radical' elements.   And certainly you understand that not all Ds are 'leftists'.

 
 
 
devangelical
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1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @1.1    2 years ago

one notch left of center is considered radical left by the radical right.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  seeder  Vic Eldred    2 years ago

“The grift from this family is breathtaking,” Chris Christie said at a New Hampshire town hall. “It’s breathtaking. Jared Kushner and Ivanka Kushner walk out of the White House, and months later get $2 billion from the Saudis.”

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Christie is a great debater, but he can't seem to control who benefits from his skills. In 2016 he took down Marco Rubio and it benefited Trump. Now he starts in on the Trump family. Where will that lead?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @2    2 years ago
Where will that lead?

...court, prison.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @2.1    2 years ago

For whom?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @2.1    2 years ago
...court, prison.

Trump's going to get a cell mate?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.2    2 years ago

probably not a family member, but hopefully a hardened convict that can fully appreciate a cellmate that can't keep his mouth shut...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.4  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.2    2 years ago
Trump's going to get a cell mate?

I doubt that the Secret Service would allow that.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.4    2 years ago

bad laws get amended all the time...

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @2.1.5    2 years ago

What law are you talking about?

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.7  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.6    2 years ago

lifetime secret service protection, for a convicted and federally incarcerated felon. redundant.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @2.1.7    2 years ago
redundant

Exactly, prisoners are never harmed while in federal prison.

 
 
 
devangelical
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2.1.9  devangelical  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.8    2 years ago

in that particular case, who cares?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @2.1.3    2 years ago

probably not a family member, but hopefully a hardened convict that can fully appreciate a cellmate that can't keep his mouth shut...

Being unable to keep your mouth shut is definitely an attractive quality in most prisons.  Hopefully he will bring his own kneepads.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  devangelical @2.1.9    2 years ago

Those responsible to uphold the Former Presidential Protection Act.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.12  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.10    2 years ago

Is that a homophobic comment?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.13  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.12    2 years ago
Is that a homophobic comment?

Please post the definition for "homophobic" then look at my comment again.

 
 
 
George
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2.1.14  George  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.12    2 years ago

Yes. Or advice based on personal expierence

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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2.1.15  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.13    2 years ago

Perhaps Heterosexism is more to the point.  Is your belief that being heterosexual is the only "right" or "natural" way to be so you slur homosexual acts?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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2.1.16  Ozzwald  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @2.1.15    2 years ago
Perhaps Heterosexism is more to the point.

Please post the definition for "Heterosexism" then look at my comment again.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3  Greg Jones    2 years ago

Ain't over till the fat lady sings.  

I think Trump is going to get hit from all sides in the coming months. Some like Christie will attack head on. DeSantis will be more subtle and subdued with his responses and retorts to Trump's childish rants. As time goes by I think a growing number of election deniers will come to realize that Trump doesn't have a clue or a plan. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  seeder  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @3    2 years ago
As time goes by I think a growing number of election deniers will come to realize that Trump doesn't have a clue or a plan. 

It's about winning my friend. If Trump is going to bring out every hate-filled moron on the left, we have to go with someone else. We are lucky to have a much younger and more effective model in the wings.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago

DeSantis will never be president. Abortion by itself will sink him. 

Of course there are many other reasons as well. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago
If Trump is going to bring out every hate-filled moron on the left

You consider those who would vote against Trump to be "hate-filled moron"s?   

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.2    2 years ago

Well, here I am a hate-filled moron because I won't be voting for trmp.

Thanks, Vic for telling me what I am. It's always good to get the best information to start the day

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    2 years ago

Same here.   I find it unpatriotic, irrational and irresponsible to vote for Trump.   I could, however, make a case that many who would vote 'for' Trump for PotUS could be described as "hate-filled morons".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.3    2 years ago

always consider the source. it's best not to pay much heed to extremists and fanatics. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    2 years ago

You could, but you won't because you are a decent human being

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.6    2 years ago

Oh I just might.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.5    2 years ago

I want him to come right out and call me a hate-filled lefty moron. He certainly implied I am and everyone else here who won't be voting for trmp

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.8    2 years ago

Actually I think he was referring to what happened in 2020. A total of voters for the record books. Many of whom probably would not have voted otherwise except for the fact it was made easier by new rules supposedly brought on by covid. Mail in.

256

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.10  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.9    2 years ago

Let Vic speak for himself, please

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.10    2 years ago

Not a problem.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.12    2 years ago
If Trump is going to bring out every hate-filled moron on the left

I know you and a few others think I and others here are hate-filled morons. Have the guts to say it. Call us out by name and say what you really feel

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.16    2 years ago

what's that got to do with the price of beer in Texass

 
 
 
TᵢG
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3.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.12    2 years ago
That isn't what he wrote.

It would be pointless for me to simply repeat what he wrote.   That does not establish anything.   So instead I posed a question so that Vic can tell us 'no, that is not really what I meant' or 'yes, that is my position' or something else that is clearer than what he wrote.

See?

Notice the question mark in what you quoted.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.20  Trout Giggles  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.18    2 years ago

there ya go with the name calling

 
 
 
George
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3.1.21  George  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.9    2 years ago

Unfortunately the government doesn’t support “Buy America Act” when purchasing politicians through the mail. We ended up with cheap Chinese knock-offs.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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3.1.22  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  George @3.1.21    2 years ago

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TᵢG
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3.1.25  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.24    2 years ago

Do you truly not comprehend that I asked Vic a question to prompt him to be clearer?    Or are you just trolling?

 
 
 
devangelical
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3.1.27  devangelical  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.25    2 years ago

the latter...

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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3.1.28  Greg Jones  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.14    2 years ago

"Call us out by name and say what you really feel"

No need to do that, which would only generate tickets. 

Judging by the quality, or lack of it in many comments here, the description is pretty accurate 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.29  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.25    2 years ago
Do you truly not comprehend that I asked Vic a question to prompt him to be clearer?    Or are you just trolling?

Take a wild guess. 

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1.33  Ender  replied to  TᵢG @3.1.4    2 years ago

Watching that first one, I can see why we are at the point we are at...

Holy cow...

 
 
 
charger 383
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3.1.34  charger 383  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    2 years ago

To prevent it from getting worse, this thread is locked, charger

 
 
 
MrFrost
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4  MrFrost    2 years ago

I am enjoying watching the radical right eat itself. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5  JohnRussell    2 years ago
DeSantis also made up ground on Trump in an Iowa survey that incorporated the full field.

In that poll, Trump had 39% support, DeSantis had 29%, Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) had 7%, and former Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley had 6% support.

Former Vice President Mike Pence and tech entrepreneur Vivek Ramaswamy each had 4% support, while none of the other contenders cracked 1%.

In other words the New York Post headline is considerably misleading. Trump leads DeSantis by 10 percent.  There is no "head to head" in a primary with 7 or 8 candidates. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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6  Nerm_L    2 years ago

Even Hillary Clinton couldn't save Trump now.   Republicans have the advantage this time.  With a rather diverse field of candidates, Republicans have a chance to address every issue and voter concern with a viable choice.  

Democrats are stuck with Biden till the bitter end.  And as the 6 week Presidential campaign nears (14 months from now) Democrats will have twisted themselves into pretzels.  Democrats are going to try a woke blitz but, inevitably, the woke fringe must be thrown under the bus to appeal to normal independents.  Biden will have to hide his entire cabinet in the basement.

The only way Biden has a chance this time is to become Trump.  The country is growing tired of the stupid woke left-wing extremism; the blowback is becoming too conspicuous to obscure with woke smoke any longer.  Going woke won't be a winner for Biden.  So, Biden has to become Trump.  And Republicans are already primed to run against Trump.  

 
 
 
Hallux
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6.1  Hallux  replied to  Nerm_L @6    2 years ago

My that's a lot of 'wokes', careful the letters on the keys will wear out ... @!@

 
 

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