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John Durham Just Made False Statements to Congress - Mother Jones

  

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Via:  jbb  •  last year  •  33 comments

By:   Dan Friedman (Mother Jones)

John Durham Just Made False Statements to Congress - Mother Jones
The former special counsel denied two essential facts of the Trump-Russia scandal.

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Special counsel John Durham is sworn in during a House Judiciary Committee hearing on the FBI's Trump-Russia investigation.Graeme Sloan/Sipa/AP

John Durham—the special counsel who was appointed by then-Attorney General Bill Barr to investigate the FBI's investigation of the Trump-Russia scandal and who utterly failed to produce evidence it was a hoax—testified before the House Judiciary Committee on Wednesday. In doing so, he made false statements to Congress. He might even have lied.

Durham spent four years on a crusade that Donald Trump and others hoped would back up Trump's claim that the Russia investigation was cooked up by his enemies within the supposed Deep State. Yet Durham came up empty on this front, losing two jury trials unrelated to the origins of the FBI's inquiry and winning a guilty plea from an FBI lawyer who had altered an email to support a surveillance warrant for a former Trump campaign adviser. He prosecuted no FBI officials or Obama administration officials for the supposedly big crime of mounting a plot (or witch hunt!) against Trump. Durham even concluded there was justification for the FBI to have initiated a preliminary investigation, just not a full investigation, of Russia's attack on the 2016 election and contacts between the Trump campaign and Russia.

When Durham came before the committee, House Republicans eagerly picked over the scraps in his final report, which has been muchcriticized, and they treated him as a hero. But under questioning from Democratic and Republican members, Durham misrepresented key aspects of the Russia scandal, suggesting he was either unfamiliar with basic facts or was purposefully trying to mislead the committee and the American public.

During his turn to question Durham, Rep. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.) asked Durham about the infamous meeting held in Trump Tower on June 9, 2016, when Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner, and Paul Manafort—three of Trump's top campaign advisers—sat down with an emissary of the Russian government whom they were told had dirt on Hillary Clinton to share. An email sent to Trump Jr. from a business associate that set up this session informed the candidate's son that this meeting was part of a secret Russian scheme to help Trump's campaign. Durham dismissed the matter, remarking, "People get phone calls all the time from individuals who claim to have information like that."

This meeting signaled to Moscow that the Trump camp was receptive to Russian endeavors to intervene in the election to boost Trump's chances, and Schiff expressed surprise that Durham found it insignificant. "Are you really trying to diminish the importance of what happened here?" he asked.

Durham answered: "The more complete story is that they met, and it was a ruse, and they didn't talk about Mrs. Clinton."

That is not true.

The report produced by special counsel Robert Mueller notes that the Russian emissary, a lawyer named Natalia Veselnitskaya, did discuss Clinton: "Participants agreed that Veselnitskaya stated that the Ziff brothers [an American family investment firm] had broken Russian laws and had donated their profits to the DNC or the Clinton Campaign. She asserted that the Ziff brothers had engaged in tax evasion and money laundering in both the United States and Russia." (There was no evidence that Ziff Brothers Investments had engaged in wrongdoing.)

The Mueller report points out that Trump Jr. zeroed in on this: "Trump Jr. asked follow-up questions about how the alleged payments could be tied specifically to the Clinton Campaign, but Veselnitskaya indicated that she could not trace the money once it entered the United States." The report quotes a participant in the meeting recalling "that Trump Jr. asked what they [the Russians] have on Clinton."

Durham's characterization of the meeting—that it had nothing to do with Clinton—lined up with what the Trump camp first claimed when the meeting was revealed a year afterward, in 2017. At that time, Trump Jr. issued a false statement dictated by his father that insisted the conversation had focused "primarily" on the adoption of Russian children by Americans. That was a phony cover story. Later on, when more information came out, even the elder Trump conceded that the point of the meeting was to gather negative information on Clinton from a foreign adversary. "This was a meeting to get information on an opponent," Trump said. Yet years later, Durham was still pushing the original disinformation about the meeting propagated by Trump and his allies.

In a subsequent exchange with Rep. Tom McClintock (R-Calif.), Durham misled the committee about another key element of the Trump-Russia scandal. McClintock observed that the "central charge in the Russia collusion hoax was that Trump campaign operatives were in contact with Russian intelligence sources."

Replying to that remark, Durham said, "There was no such evidence."

That's not true.

While running Trump's campaign in the summer of 2016, Manafort had regular contact with Konstantin Kilimnik, a former Manafort employee in Ukraine who has been repeatedly identified by US government officials as a Russian agent.

In a detailed, bipartisan 2020 report, the Senate Intelligence Committee, then chaired by Republican Sen. Marco Rubio, called Kilimnik "a Russian intelligence officer." A year earlier, the Mueller report said, "The FBI…assesses that Kilimnik has ties to Russian intelligence." The US Treasury in 2021 declared Kilimnik was a "known Russian Intelligence Services agent implementing influence operations on their behalf." The department added, "During the 2016 U.S. presidential election campaign, Kilimnik provided the Russian Intelligence Services with sensitive information on polling and campaign strategy." In 2018, Mueller indicted Kilimnik on charges of obstruction of justice.

The contacts between Manafort and Kilimnik have been well chronicled by Mueller, the Senate Intelligence Committee, and media reports. Durham should be well-versed in this. Manafort and Kilimnik met secretly in a Manhattan cigar bar. Manafort handed Kilimnik Trump campaign polling data that were to be passed to an oligarch close to Russian leader Vladimir Putin, and he arranged to continue sharing sensitive campaign information through Kilimnik.

Kilimnik also wanted something from Manafort. He asked Manafort to secure Trump's backing for a Kremlin-approved "peace plan" for Ukraine that would have entailed creating an autonomous zone in eastern Ukraine, a scheme Manafort knew would offer a "'backdoor' means for Russia to control eastern Ukraine," according to the Senate report. This sounds like an early attempt to gain Trump's assistance in securing what Russia later invaded Ukraine to obtain.

The Senate committee also revealed that it had found information, which it did not publicly detail, "suggesting Kilimnik may have been connected to the [Russian] hack and leak operation targeting the 2016 U.S. election." And it referenced "two pieces of information" that "raise the possibility" that Manafort, too, was connected to Russia's "hack-and-leak operations."

The Manafort-Kilimnik connection—which the Senate Intelligence Committee report characterized as a "grave counterintelligence threat"—is one of the most serious and still not fully explained components of the Trump-Russia scandal. It belies all the claims of Trump and his crowd that the Russia investigation was nothing but a hoax orchestrated by a nefarious den of anti-Trump vipers within the law enforcement and national security communities. It is inconceivable that Durham is unaware of this troubling link. But by ignoring the well-documented contacts between Manafort and an identified Russian agent and asserting that there was no evidence of interactions between the Trump campaign and Russian intelligence, Durham was supporting Trump's never-ending coverup.

Durham's investigation and report raised several questions about his aims. Was he running a fair and balanced probe or weaponizing a government inquiry to buttress Trump's self-serving lies about the Russia scandal? Durham's false statements to Congress about essential facts provide more reason for suspicion, and they further undermine his credibility. They might even merit their own investigation.


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    last year

Durham Lied!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1    last year
Durham Lied!

So did Schiff!

 
 
 
Bob Nelson
Professor Guide
1.1.1  Bob Nelson  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1    last year

Both sides!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  Bob Nelson @1.1.1    last year
Both sides!!!!!!!!!

I am so glad (and rather amazed, actually) you can admit that!

 
 
 
cjcold
Professor Quiet
1.2  cjcold  replied to  JBB @1    last year

Everybody with even half a brain knows that Trump is guilty of every crime he's ever been accused of since he's been a teenager. Trump was always a bad seed.

Trump's life has been spent as a scoff-law. He has always thought that he is above the law.

His low IQ sycophants think that they are now above the law because of Trump.

Far right wing fascists now believe that they have a mandate to hate the other.

Fox news told all hate filled morons that their voices mattered. They don't! STFU!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2  Sean Treacy    last year

The "news" site that pushed the Steele Dossier pushes Democratic talking points????

That's crazy. What's next? An exclusive analysis claiming Joe Biden is smarter than Einstein and a better football player than Tom Brady? 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    last year

When you cannot argue the facts attack the source. Fact #1 The CIA and FBI probes (plural) of Trump's Russian connections were legally predicated and predated the 2016 Presidential election by years. Beginning by at least 2014 and continuing right up to election day in 2016 Trump was in constant negotiations with Vlad Putin to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. So, of course every intelligence agency in the world including MI6, Interpol and the Israeli Mossad were watching, listening and taking notes...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1    last year

why do you ALWAYS leave out the mist IMPORTANT part-- that the "investigations" turned up nothing?

it is disingenuous.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.1    last year

It proves Trump was colluding with Putin!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2.1    last year

False, false, false. 

stop making things up.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.3    last year

Why do you think Trump HAD TO pardon Paul Manafort, Roger Stone and Flynn?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2.1.4    last year

He didn’t have to pardon them and none of them were convicted of , or ever charged with,  colluding with Russia with regards to the 2016 election.  

say it again. Not a single American was convicted of conspiring with  Russia to interfere in the 2016 election. No one. You’ve been lied to and manipulated by left wing media, wake up.  The truth has been public for way to long to justify being this ignorant for this long.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.6  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.5    last year

Trump asked Putin to hack Hillary on TV!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.7  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2.1.6    last year

Trump asked Putin to hack Hillary on TV!

No he didn't.

You realize is your complete inability to use actual facts to criticize Trump only serves to make Trump look good, right?  Sometimes it seems like you are actually working for Trump by posting as   a caricature of his conspiracy mad critics. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1.2    last year

It absolutely does not prove any such thing and you know it.

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.7    last year
No he didn't.

Actually he did..

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.1.10  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.7    last year

He did and he met with Russian agents in Trump Tower which was collusion, too...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @2.1.9    last year

Lol.  Try again and pay attention to his  words.  

Here's a hint.  Hillary had already destroyed her emails after they were subpoenaed and the FBI was searching for them when Trump spoke. 

It's amazing how Trump critics can't criticize him without blatant misrepresentations . 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.12  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @2.1.10    last year
He did and he met with Russian agents in Trump Tower which was collusion, too...

A new lie!   As the years go by, your lies get more and more brazen. Not a good trend. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.13  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.8    last year
t absolutely does not prove any such thing and you know it.

All rational people know it.  They just pretend the Mueller Report doesn't exist. 

At this point, it's just about the entertainment of watching the lies about collusion get more and desperate and divorced from reality. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1.10    last year

no it wasn't!

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
3  bbl-1    last year

Manafort.  He is pardoned.  Nothing more to know.  Of course no collusion, right?  Not even going to mention the state dinner in Moscow with Putin, Flynn and presidential candidate Jill Stein sitting at the same table.  Damn sure ain't no collusion there either, right? 

As far as Durham.  His only purpose was to cover, delay and confuse anything related to Trump.  

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  bbl-1 @3    last year

All True!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  bbl-1 @3    last year

Manafort was charged with tax crimes,  no collusion. Are you accusing Jill stein (who colluded with Clinton to try and overthrow the 2016 election in court)  of colluding with Putin as well.

how deep does the stein, Putin, Clinton collusion go? Next thing you know, you are going to discover Russian plutocrats giving millions to the Clintons!!! Then we’ll know they were colluding, right?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2    last year

Joe McCarthy's henchman Roy Cohn "The Worst Person in the World" had four special protégés he groomed to be "Dirty Tricksters".

They were Lee Atwood, Paul Manafort, Roger Stone and Donald Trump. The rest is history!

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
3.2.2  bbl-1  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2    last year

What in the F are you talking about?  Love Trump all you want but you ought to show a little sanity to keep from coming across as a blooming idiot.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.2.3  Sean Treacy  replied to  bbl-1 @3.2.2    last year
Love Trump all you want but you ought to show a little sanity to keep from coming across as a blooming idiot.

I'm just trying to keep up with your batshit crazy conspiracy mongering.   Helsinki! 

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
3.2.4  bbl-1  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.2.3    last year

Do you know who Jill Stein is?  Better question, do you know anything except to cajole, make light of and make things up?

 
 
 
Ender
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4  Ender    last year
"This is embarrassing, " commented former U.S. Attorney Joyce Vance on Twitter after seeing that Durham said, "I really don't read the newspapers" in response to one of Schiff's questions.

National security attorney Bradley Moss, meanwhile, expressed astonishment at Durham's ignorance about Trump's behavior.

"This was the grand savior of Trump's vengeance quest?" he asked. "No offense to Durham, but you don't have to read newspapers to know this stuff. It was in the Mueller Report. It was in the GOP Senate Report. This is why this probe was bungled from the start."

And New York University Law professor Ryan Goodman highlighted how Durham seemed unfamiliar with the Mueller report's findings about how former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort met with a Kremlin-connected agent and gave him internal campaign polling data.

So he supposedly doesn't even know some things he was suppose to be investigating...

Then I had to laugh, Gaetz accused him of a cover up of those he was suppose to be investigating...

 
 
 
Kavika
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4.1  Kavika   replied to  Ender @4    last year
Then I had to laugh, Gaetz accused him of a cover up of those he was suppose to be investigating...

Bull Durham was spreading the bull again.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Ender  replied to  Kavika @4.1    last year

The great Durham turned in to the great dud. Four years of nothing. No wonder they are going after Schiff, they are desperate for anything.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ender @4.1.1    last year

Durham made a fool of himself for Trump!

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
4.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  JBB @4.1.2    last year

No.  Actually, Trump made a fool of Durham.  But, Durham got paid by the taxpayers for his gig and Trump's neverending bullcrap kept the grift going and the MAGAs feeling relevant.  Not much more than that came out of this.

 
 

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