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John Durham Said Exactly What Trump World Did Not Want To Hear!

  

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Via:  jbb  •  last year  •  27 comments

By:   MSNBC (MSNBC. com)

John Durham Said Exactly What Trump World Did Not Want To Hear!
House Republicans burned hours trying to unpack John Durham's 300-page report he issued last month into the origins of the FBI's 2016 investigation of Trump.

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June 22, 2023, 10:00 AM By Hayes Brown, MSNBC Opinion Writer/Editor

There was a lot of time spent in the weeds during Wednesday's House Judiciary Committee hearing with special counsel John Durham. Lawmakers burned hours trying to spin, parse and unpack the dense, 300-page report he issued last month into the origins of the FBI's 2016 investigation of former President Donald Trump. Names that nobody who hasn't been glued to the coverage of the Russia probe and its aftermath would recognize got thrown around to a degree that at several points even I was left wondering, "Who?"

It wasn't the most riveting of hearings, but here's the bottom line: John Durham found nothing to discredit special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation. At no point in his testimony did he take the bait from Republicans to give credence to Trump's "Russia hoax" rhetoric. If anything, Durham went out of the way to praise his predecessor — even if his grasp on what Mueller found proved to be a bit shaky.

John Durham found nothing to discredit special counsel Robert Mueller's investigation.

Like Durham's investigation itself, the hearing was at times a crude doppelganger of Mueller's testimony about his findings in 2019. Then, as now, a special counsel defended his work before a divided partisan panel. Then, as now, the special counsel tried to stick to the scope of what was actually in the text of his report. And then, as now, Republicans desperately sought to spin the text before them into a full exoneration of Trump. A major difference is that this time, the laundry list of crimes that Trump has been accused of stretches much longer than it did before, including multiple criminal indictments.

Judiciary Committee Chair Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, and his colleagues sought to paint Durham's weak-tea conclusions — that the FBI had the responsibility to investigate claims of Russian collusion but made missteps along the way — as evidence of a vast conspiracy against Trump. Most of the accusations thrown around were relatively incomprehensible, especially since Durham found no specific wrongdoing of note from any particular member of FBI or Justice Department leadership. It was on the whole a rather tepid affair, befitting a rather tepid report that was packed with speculation that Durham couldn't prove in court.

That's not to say that the day was completely pointless. Durham confirmed under Democratic questioning that current Attorney General Merrick Garland didn't interfere with his investigation or tell him that any potential targets were off-limits. He admitted that the reason that former President Obama and former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton still walk free, no matter how much Trumpworld wants them behind bars, is that there's simply no evidence of wrongdoing. Likewise, none of the three individuals he did prosecute, two of whom were acquitted, were accused of taking part in a supposed "deep state" plot to take down Trump. It's a far cry from when the former president was promising that Durham's probe would reveal "the crime of the century."

Durham surely will remain a touchstone for those who never read a word he wrote but are sure that he fully vindicated Trump in the process.

Instead, Durham said in his opening statement that his report "should not be read to suggest in any way that Russian election interference was not a threat; it was." And when it came to Mueller himself, Durham didn't hold back in his praise. "Our object, our aim, was not to dispute Director Mueller," Durham said. "I have the greatest regard, the highest regard for Director Mueller. He is a patriot." That's again not what Trump's most ardent devotees would like to hear coming from the man who they expected to expose Mueller's role in the "witch hunt" against Trump.

But Durham seemed shockingly unprepared to discuss Mueller's actual work and findings under questioning. He also appeared to be blissfully unaware of the way that Trump frequently utilized the material released by the Russians who stole emails from the Democratic National Committee and Clinton campaign. "I don't really read the newspapers or listen to the news," Durham said when confronted with the fact that the Russian interference was meant to help then-candidate Trump.

In the end, Wednesday's hearing offered little fodder for sound bites to rile up the GOP base. The lack of recommendations from Durham beyond what the FBI has already done makes it harder to use him in Trump's ongoing war on the Justice Department for which he has drafted Republicans into fighting. Durham even rejected the idea that Republicans should move to defund the Justice Department and the FBI. And his willingness to admit that there was Russian interference in 2016 means that he has likely outlived his usefulness to Trump.

Towards the end of Durham's testimony, Rep. Matt Gaetz, R-Fla., channeled the most diehard MAGA supporters, who had been promised for years now that the special counsel would strike a blow against Trump's enemies. "When you are part of the cover-up, Mr. Durham, then it makes our job harder," Gaetz declared, affecting an air of righteous disappointment.

But that's not to say that Durham's name won't be thrown around over the coming months and years anyway. He surely will remain a touchstone for those who never read a word he wrote but are sure that he fully vindicated Trump in the process. For the MAGA movement, John Durham was always more useful as a vessel for whatever conspiracy needed a kernel of truth than as an actual investigator.

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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    last year

Durham didn't vindicate Trump! Quite the opposite 

 
 
 
JBB
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2  seeder  JBB    last year

As it turned out, the CIA and FBI investigations (plural) into Trump's secretive relationships with clandestine agents of Putin's Russian State Intelligence Services were legally predicated and long predated the 2016 presidential election per both John Durham and The Mueller Report...

Trump got himself investigated by seeking out and meeting with and establishing long term relationships with Russian spies and agents...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2    last year

And what you claim were legally predicated investigations turned up nothing as usual but you forgot to include that rather IMPORTANT bit of info.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    last year

SSDD

SMH

Irv, new material in thread two!!!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    last year

He won't include that.  It destroys that whole unfounded narrative he's been spamming all over the place.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.2    last year

I guess I never saw the point of bragging about some investigations that turned up nothing.

Seems like that would be something to stay silent about.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    last year

Is that why not only the CIA and FBI were investigating Trump's Russian dealings but MI6, Interpol and the Mosad did too?

Durham proved the origins of the CIA and FBI investigations of Trump's Russian connections were all legally predicated...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.1.4    last year
Is that why not only the CIA and FBI were investigating Trump's Russian dealings but MI6, Interpol and the Mosad did too?

I will try just this one last time.

WHAT DID THESE INVESTIGATIONS UNCOVER?

WHERE ARE THE INDICTMENTS STEMMING FROM THESE INVESTIGATIONS?

Until you can answer those satisfactorily, everyone can see you are just blowing smoke.

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.3    last year

They can't keep silent.  They've been embarrassed and have to lash out.  And they'll double down on the stupid like claiming the CIA and FBI were investigating Trump's Russian dealings in 2016.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.1.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.6    last year

SMH...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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2.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @2.1.6    last year

Have you noticed the questions are still unanswered?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.1.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.8    last year

They can't aswer them.  But that's what happens when you run on feelings and zero evidence.  

I think they are in the belief that if you repeat a lie enough times it becomes truth. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3  Trout Giggles    last year

Sounds like Durham is no longer a MAGA hero

 
 
 
Ender
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3.1  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @3    last year

He was made a fool of.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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3.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ender @3.1    last year

so was somebody else

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @3.1.1    last year

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Ronin2
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4  Ronin2    last year

Leftists still living in their own version of bobblehead boy Schiff's reality. Which is the reason that many of them gave Schiff their time.

Democrats proved they had nothing for Durham. He made fools out of them repeatedly. The only thing Democrats have proven is they still haven't given up on the Russian Collusion Hoax.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1  Tessylo  replied to  Ronin2 @4    last year

PD&D plus delusion.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @4    last year

After three years and a thorough gazillion dollar investigation Durham seems to still not know the basics on the origins of the CIA and FBI probes (plural) of Trump's Russian  connections or to have ever even read the Mueller Report... 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2    last year

Except we all know better and pretending we don't isn't going to fly.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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4.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @4.2    last year
the basics on the origins of the CIA and FBI probes (plural) of Trump's Russian  connections or to have ever even read the Mueller Report... 

just bask in the lack of self awareness.  It may be years before we such a perfect example again.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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4.2.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @4.2    last year

How many zeros are in a gazillion dollars investment?  Are you defecting cyber investments?

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @4.2.3    last year

Don't be impertinent!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.1    last year

Barr's 'summary' of the Mueller report was his resume to be the consigliere to the former 'president'

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     last year

We do know that Durham is full of Bull.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1  Tessylo  replied to  Kavika @5    last year

Good one Kav!

Bull Durham!

 
 
 
Hallux
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6  Hallux    last year

Meh, Durham is a Deep State puppet of the Biden Mafiosa.

 
 

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