US soldier facing military disciplinary actions flees to North Korea
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Via: vic-eldred • last year • 117 commentsBy: Lolita Baldor (Military Times)
Editor's note: This is a developing story. It was last updated on July 18, 2023 at 1:15 pm EST.
SEOUL, South Korea — An American soldier facing military disciplinary actions fled across the heavily armed border from South Korea into North Korea, U.S. officials said Tuesday, becoming the first American detained in the North in nearly five years.
Two U.S. officials said the soldier detained was Private 2nd Class Travis King, who had just been released from a South Korean prison where he'd been held on assault charges and was facing additional military disciplinary actions in the United States.
King, who's in his early 20s, was escorted to the airport to be returned to Fort Bliss, Texas, but instead of getting on the plane he left and joined a tour of the Korean border village of Panmunjom, where he ran across the border.
At a Pentagon press conference Tuesday, Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin did not name King, but confirmed that a U.S. service member was likely now in North Korean custody.
"We're closely monitoring and investigating the situation and working to notify the soldier's next of kin," Austin said, noting he was foremost concerned about the troop's wellbeing. "This will develop in the next several days and hours, and we'll keep you posted."
Details about King, including his hometown and what additional charges he faced, were not immediately available. It was also unclear how he managed to leave the airport while he was being escorted.
The American-led U.N. Command said he is believed to be in North Korean custody and the command is working with its North Korean counterparts to resolve the incident. North Korea's state media didn't immediately report on the border crossing.
Cases of Americans or South Koreans defecting to North Korea are rare, though more than 30,000 North Koreans have fled to South Korea to avoid political oppression and economic difficulties since the end of the 1950-53 Korean War.
Panmunjom, located inside the 248-kilometer (154-mile) -long Demilitarized Zone, has been jointly overseen by the U.N. Command and North Korea since its creation at the close of the Korean War. Bloodshed and gunfire have occasionally occurred there, but it has also been a venue for numerous talks and is a popular tourist spot.
Known for its blue huts straddling concrete slabs that form the demarcation line, Panmunjom draws visitors from both sides who want to see the Cold War's last frontier. No civilians live at Panmunjom. In the past, North and South Korean soldiers faced off within meters (yards) of each other.
FILE - A general view shows the truce village of Panmunjom inside the demilitarized zone (DMZ) separating the two Koreas, South Korea on July 19, 2022. An American has crossed the heavily fortified border from South Korea into North Korea, the American—led U.N. Command overseeing the area said Tuesday, July 18, 2023. (Kim Hong-Ji/Pool Photo via AP, File)
Tours to the southern side of the village reportedly drew around 100,000 visitors a year before the coronavirus pandemic, when South Korea restricted gatherings to slow the spread of COVID-19. The tours resumed fully last year. During a short-lived period of inter-Korean engagement in 2018, Panmunjom was one of the border sites that underwent mine-clearing operations by North and South Korean army engineers as the Koreas vowed to turn the village into a "peace zone" where tourists from both sides could move around with more freedom.
In November 2017, North Korean soldiers fired 40 rounds as one of their colleagues raced toward the South. The soldier was hit five times before he was found beneath a pile of leaves on the southern side of Panmunjom. He survived and is now in South Korea.
The most famous incident at Panmunjom happened in August 1976, when two American army officers were killed by ax-wielding North Korean soldiers. The U.S. officers had been sent to trim a 40-foot (12-meter) tree that obstructed the view from a checkpoint. The attack prompted Washington to fly nuclear-capable B-52 bombers toward the DMZ to intimidate North Korea.
Panmunjom also is where the armistice that ended the Korean War was signed. That armistice has yet to be replaced with a peace treaty, leaving the Korean Peninsula technically in a state of war. The United States still stations about 28,000 troops in South Korea.
There have been a small number of U.S. soldiers who went to North Korea during the Cold War, including Charles Jenkins, who deserted his army post in South Korea in 1965 and fled across the DMZ. He appeared in North Korean propaganda films and married a Japanese nursing student who had been abducted from Japan by North Korean agents. He died in Japan in 2017.
But in recent years, some American civilians have been arrested in North Korea after allegedly entering the country from China. They were later convicted of espionage, subversion and other anti-state acts, but were often released after the U.S. sent high-profile missions to secure their freedom.
In May 2018, North Korea released three American detainees -- Kim Dong Chul, Tony Kim and Kim Hak Song -- who returned to the United States on a plane with then-Secretary of State Mike Pompeo during a short-lived period of warm relations between the longtime adversaries. Later in 2018, North Korea said it expelled American Bruce Byron Lowrance. Since his ouster, there have been no reports of other Americans detained in North Korea before Tuesday's incident.
The 2018 releases came as North Korean leader Kim Jong Un was engaged in nuclear diplomacy with then-President Donald Trump. The high-stakes diplomacy collapsed in 2019 amid wrangling over U.S.-led sanctions on North Korea.
Their freedoms were a striking contrast to the fate of Otto Warmbier, an American university student who died in 2017 days after he was released by North Korea in a coma after 17 months in captivity. Warmbier and other previous American detainees in North Korea were imprisoned over a variety of alleged crimes, including subversion, anti-state activities and spying.
The United States, South Korea and others have accused North Korea of using foreign detainees to wrest diplomatic concessions. Some foreigners have said after their release that their declarations of guilt were coerced while in North Korean custody.
Tuesday's border crossing happened amid high tensions over North Korea's barrage of missile tests since the start of last year. A U.S. nuclear-armed submarine visited South Korea on Tuesday for the first time in four decades in deterrence against North Korea.
Copp reported from Washington. Associated Press writers Matthew Lee and Zeke Miller in Washington contributed to this report.
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He fled over that border because he was facing disciplinary actions?
This is unique.
What will Biden do?
My guess is some sort of swap where we let 3 or 4 terrorists or criminals go in exchange for this guy.
I say let them keep the dumb MFer.
This guy seems like a real trouble maker.
Funny, I can't find a picture of him!
You are right they'll go nuts to get him back.
Hum...no picture?
If he's tall, plays basketball and is a minority, Biden's Crime family will do their damnedest to get him back - and soon.
If he's not, well, couple of our non-minority, non-basketball playing, normal sized people are still sitting in Russia waiting for the BCF to try and get them back after 2 years.
Whoever he was, he evidently didn't remember the last guy who came back from North Korea....in a coma...and dead a week later.
He will be deciding what to do.
As we watch this video, who feels reasured about that fact?
Probably a committee of Biden's handlers convening to determine if the soldier had any redeeming value as a campaign ad first.
If not, the guy can stay there!
I'm sure the campaign factors in.
So that is what it took to get someone back. Which part of that do you think is the most important, being tall or a basketball player or (gasp) a minority?
Well, I'm over 6 feet and play a good game of Rez Ball and a 100% minority so I guess that in case I'm in the DMZ and wander across to the other side I'm good to go since I'll be traded for.
Wonder who they would trade for me, I got it, Steve Bannon short/fat/sloppy and white. There ya go.
We are currently facing Biden vs. Trump in 2024. Which of those is more embarrassing for the nation to reelect as PotUS?
All of that makes him a fragile candidate.
I heard a very interesting description of that dreaded matchup a few days ago.
It gos like this:
On the one hand you have a candidate named Trump who resonates with his supporters via his word and actions. His support is four-fifths of a mile wide and four-fifths of a mile deep.
Then you have the candidate who ran simply for those who hated Trump. His support is a mile wide, but only an inch deep.
The more you think about it, the more you realize the wisdom of that statement.
Which of the two is more embarrassing for the nation to reelect as PotUS?
JOE BIDEN
Exactly what I figured you would say.
You would put the only former PotUS who attempted to steal an election through relentless coercion, unconstitutional acts, lying, etc. back into office. An individual who is intentionally divisive with the temperament of an angry child. An individual who plays fast and loose with our nation's classified secrets and who apparently thinks he is above the law. An asshole who allowed his supporters to literally break and enter our Capitol to disrupt the workings of Congress and did nothing for over three hours ... but he did thrown Pence under the bus mid-way through the insurrection with a tweet.
You would have the world observe the USA put this unethical, lying, malicious narcissist who is under several indictments into the most powerful office on the planet because you feel that is less embarrassing than a man who makes excessive verbal mistakes.
Biden is too old and should not be running for PotUS, but I think the rest of the world would be convinced the USA electorate has lost its mind if we were to place Trump back in office after what he has done.
As opposed to letting the radical left having another 4 years. You bet!
You would have the world observe the USA put this unethical, lying, malicious narcissist who is under several indictments into the most powerful office on the planet because you feel that is less embarrassing than a man who makes excessive verbal mistakes.
I'd be putting America first.
Biden is too old and should not be running for PotUS,
It doesn't matter. They are going to ram him down our throats again. Today they slandered Robert F Kennedy Jr to that end. They called him everything from a racist to a fucking racist.
Did it ever occur to you that you do not have to vote for Trump? You can vote for every R on the ballot without voting for Trump.
Focus on securing control of Congress rather than vote to put the only former PotUS who attempted to steal an election through relentless coercion, unconstitutional acts, lying, etc. back into office. An individual who is intentionally divisive with the temperament of an angry child. An individual who plays fast and loose with our nation's classified secrets and who apparently thinks he is above the law. An asshole who allowed his supporters to literally break and enter our Capitol to disrupt the workings of Congress and did nothing for over three hours ... but he did thrown Pence under the bus mid-way through the insurrection with a tweet.
You believe that voting Trump into office is putting America first?? As I have noted before: irrational, irresponsible and unpatriotic.
Probably. Just like you are going to willingly vote for Trump, if nominated, to hold the most powerful office on the planet.
Did it ever occur to you that if you don't vote for Trump it is a vote for Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine? You have stated repeatedly that neither should run for PotUS; but this is what our two Establishment Party system is turning the hell out. Are you willing to forgo voting for Brandon; even if you vote for every Democrat down ticket?
Correction- you should not vote for any Democrats down ticket. 99.9% of them are still denying the 2016 election results. Which is a part of the reason we are where we are today.
You might want to do some research. Brandon has a temper equal to Trumps. Challenging union auto worker to a fight in 2019. Berating staffers repeatedly to the point they don't want to talk to him alone. Also the nagging little fact Brandon threatened to us the US military against his political opponents not once; but twice. His dropping his voice to a low whisper and leaning in close to try and seem more threatening during interviews and speeches makes him look really presidential as well. Throw in his fondling of children/women; hair sniffing of women; and embracing Hillary in a hug that lasted so long that she had to tell Brandon several times to let her go. But at least his daughter is getting help she needs for those times he took "inappropriate" showers with her.
What do you call Brandon who has classified documents from both his time as a Senator and VP? I guess storing them in boxes in his garage around his drug addled son who was on the take from foreign countries is considered playing it safe.
Might want to look up who is in charge of DC security. It wasn't Trump. They had more than enough opportunity to plan adequate security; and warnings- which they ignored. Too bad the Jan 6th committee was so focused on sating their rampant TDS that they didn't do what the committee was established for. To identify what went wrong with security and ensure it never happens again.
More crocodile tears for Pence. Might want to go back and reread some of the articles written about Pence. Leftists/Democrats hate him so much they wouldn't do anything to save him. Hell BLM/Antifa would have enjoyed getting their hands on him during their DC riots.
You think keeping Brandon the Human Fuck Up Machine in office is putting America first? He is aging badly; a hate filled mighty mental midget that has lied so often he could challenge Trump for the lying title; a real criminal that has received money from foreign countries in return for political favors; and better still has a VP that will be even worse than he is- should his health fail in his second term. As for patriotism. How many times did he check his watch again during the ceremony for the 13 returned soldiers that died due to his stupidity in Afghanistan? A great patriot and human being!/S
Looking forward to you taking your own advise and either not voting for PotUS; or going third party. But more than likely you will go with what you feel is the lesser of two evils and vote for Brandon again. There is no problem with that. It is what the vast majority of US voters will be doing. Just can the sanctimonious garbage trying to convince people not to vote for Trump.
As usual, you deliver an emotional rant replete with presumption.
Not a single mention of the negatives for Trump but plenty of hyperbolic negatives on Biden.
A pathetic display of irrational blind partisanship.
That is highly probably not going to happen and nor should it. It is time to get clear that there is a vast difference between what kind of society and life we will have in this country under an authoritarian government system which republicans are running and putting in place where ever they are in power and a democratic republican where liberals are in charge of government. As you can presume the two systems means different things for the country.
And btw, why is it now okay for conservatives to wish for a "dear leader" in charge of the country? As you well know a republican congress will select Donald J. Trump to be it POTUS without question.
Voted up, but I disagree with the notion that the GoP is attempting to create an authoritarian system. They want power (as do the Ds) but the label 'authoritarian' is too extreme.
That is quite hilarious that you'd be putting 'America first' quite hilarious when your hero, the former 'president' puts him and only himself FIRST.
Are republicans and MAGA attempting to set themselves as the rule of law in this country? That is, where they are in control are they right now working hard to lock themselves into uncontested state and federal control?
Here is just one case (Florida's GOP is another prime example):
TiG, every major action being executed by the GOP is designed to give them just and/or unjust control over the entirety of the country!
Extrapolate from that how long we will operate as a democracy once they have locked up the state and federal systems. The GOP and conservatives are 'ruling' over the citizenry in red states by their demands and insistences of unpopular policies.
The truest check on the GOP has been the courts and as we can see the GOP/conservatives have been 'sewing up' the courts expediently by placing Federalist Society vetted judges and justice candidates on state and federal benches with intend to write conservative thought into legal and SCOTUS majority opinions.
adjective
. authoritarian
favoring complete obedience or subjection to authority as opposed to individual freedom: authoritarian principles; authoritarian attitudes.
of or relating to a governmental or political system, principle, or practice in which individual freedom is held as completely subordinate to the power or authority of the state, centered either in one person or a small group that is not constitutionally accountable to the people.
My reply is the same as before.
The democrats want power to the people and the power to push back against MAGA conservatism. The republicans want raw power to compel the citizenry (including and especially secularists) to obey conservative self-interests. Big difference, my friend. Just ask the girls and women who are unable to move out of red states currently having a baby or babies they don't want nor practically can afford.
Exactly, they are absolutely against big, powerful government.
How does that comment affect what I said. Do you care about people or just ideology? And which ideology do you support either way?
I realize that this country wants so-called small, powerful(?) government, but what did it do when it had small government(s)? It enslaved people, literally. Because that is what the people of those states wished to do with their control (powers). And, these same states politically still want the same or similar control over their citizenry when and where they can restore or resurrect it from the dead.
Time to stand for something. That means CHOOSING to do so. Just 'floating' and selecting from a dwindling 'buffet' table of liberties won't cut it with me and probably won't cut it with you.
And another more thing, get out of your own self-interests for a change and look around you at those who are being and will be constrained and restricted simply because the powerful want to use them as cannon fodder for your vote.
Finally, if Biden, any democratic party officials, or democratic party voters threw in with the GOP to take control over the country for conservative sake - INDEPENDENT voters would be left out in the political wilderness without the liberties they aspire to have one day that they don't see happening in their interest now.
Democrats always want to grow government by size and power.
Both.
Classical liberalism.
For whom? Conservatives or for all?
Democrats grow government because of the needs of the people to achieve equality for all. That is a far cry from republicans trying to limit government and using its limits to keep people trapped in unworkable and impractical realities calling it freedom when it is anything but freedom! Just ask the girls and women who are unable to move out of red states currently having a baby or babies they don't want nor practically can afford.
Classical liberalism is a political ideology that advocates free market and laissez-faire economics; and civil liberties under the rule of law, with special emphasis on individual autonomy, limited government, economic freedom, political freedom and freedom of speech.
I know this. Again, my question to you is this: For whom? Conservatives or for all? Because the way it is being put into practice its for conservative and libertarian self-interests specifically. That is, conservatives and libertarians do not care what liberals think about what they are doing.
I said the same thing a few years ago about that loser Bergdahl in Afghanistan and Obama/ Biden did that for him. Hope they keep young Travis, but NK will use him for propaganda as well.
What about civil liberties under the rule of law confuses you?
Your comment is unremarkable.
Ok.
Ditto. My comment stands. as it is.
Trump is still a better choice than Biden. We're required to choose between Trump and Biden. We're not allowed to reject Trump without endorsing Biden. We're forced to make a false choice because we can only choose between Trump and Biden.
The litany of Trump's faults, phobias, and transgressions doesn't change the fact that Trump is still a better choice than Biden. Expecting the public to reject Trump depends upon allowing the public to also reject Biden. As long as the public is forced to choose between the two then Trump will still be a better choice than Biden.
In the politics of lesser evils, Trump can win.
There is no one in American politics that Trump is a lesser evil than. There are very few people in the free world that Trump is a lesser evil than.
No, Nerm, anyone who used coercion, lying, authority of office, incitement of supporters, etc., etc. in an attempt to disrupt the proper workings of the government he controlled in order to steal a US presidential election should be given the power of the presidency.
This is an absolute.
Voting to put Trump into office is irrational, irresponsible and unpatriotic.
Trump is still a better choice than this.
Trump is still a better choice than this.
Voting for Trump is irrational, irresponsible and unpatriotic.
Voting for Biden is lazy, selfish, and delusional.
Travis King voted with his feet which is happening more and more in Biden's America. For Travis King, North Korea was a better choice than Biden's America. The current news, highlighted in the seed, demonstrates that Biden ain't necessarily the best choice.
Voting to prevent Trump from becoming PotUS is not voting for Biden. It is a consequence of the Ds failing to produce a good nominee and, worse, the GOP nominating a traitor who demonstrably should never hold public office — much less the presidency.
Voting for Trump is irrational, irresponsible and unpatriotic. If you cannot stomach voting for Biden that is fine (understandable); don't vote for him. But you are obviously going to vote for Trump.
I voted for Biden because he was the best chance of keeping Trump out of office.
You know darned well that's a bullshit statement. A Presidential election is about selecting national priorities, roadmaps for the future, national stances on foreign policy, and a host of other governing directives and guidance. It's not really about the candidates' personalities.
Trump is still a better choice than Biden. Biden's political priorities and agenda for the country's future are wrong. Biden is the greater evil for the future of the United States. Biden's shit could smell like roses but that won't change his politics. Allowing Biden to retain control over the future of the country really is an existential threat.
So you and tig disagree.
Honestly, what has been so bad about Biden?
I despise Trump as a person. There is little, if anything, to admire about Trump. But I voted for Trump in 2020 because I expected Biden to blow up the economy with neoliberal policies, drag the United States into more military quagmires, sell out the United States at every opportunity, and maliciously divide the country to score cheap political points. Biden really has done all that and more. The future of the United States is not brighter because Biden is President. With Biden as President the country is more divided, less competitive, more imperial, and less reliable as an ally. Joe Biden is the epitome of the ugly American. Only a Clinton could do more to wreck the country than Joe Biden. Joe Biden is as damaging to the United States as a Ronnie Raygun Republican.
Trump is still a better choice than Biden. There's nothing Trump can do as a person that would make Biden a better choice. That's because Trump's politics maps out a better future for America than does Biden's politics. Trump is a better choice than anyone defending the establishment politics of the last 40 years.
Break free of simplistic binary reasoning.
Assuming Biden vs. Trump, here are our options:
You do not have to vote for Trump. You could not vote for Trump by voting for Biden, voting for someone else, or abstaining.
In my case, for example, if there is no practical chance that Trump will win, I will vote for someone other than Biden or Trump. And if there is no decent alternative, I will write in a vote for Chris Sununu (expressing the kind of change that the GOP needs). If I wind up casting a vote for Biden it will be a result of me determining that this is the only way I can help ensure Trump is not elected.
Trump is a traitor and is not fit to hold any office, much less the presidency. Any argument to the contrary is demonstrable bullshit. Anyone who pays any attention to what has taken place (especially since his loss) should know that placing him back in office is irrational, irresponsible and unpatriotic.
It is amazing (and sickening) that some are so blinded by partisanship that they would actually vote for Trump.
You despise Trump yet believe he is a better choice than anyone? Cognitive dissonance that severe surely has serious effects!
Didn't you recently say 'fuck Biden'?
What is wrong with 'this'?
Most liberals voted for Biden simply to get Trump out od office.
Do you think doing that was irrational and irresponsible?
That's not true. That's not why.
You know, that's exactly what I did in 2016. I didn't want either Clinton or Trump so I voted for someone else. And while I could ride around on my self righteous high horse, the country was still going to be stuck with either Clinton or Trump. So, my ethical, moral stance didn't accomplish one goddammed thing.
Fool me once, shame on me. Fool me twice, fuck you.
There is no way on God's green earth that Biden will ever be a better choice. Period. If my only choice to prevent Biden screwing things up worse than he already has is to vote for Trump then it's no contest. Yeah, I'd prefer someone other than Trump but the crooked, rigged political system is going to force me to choose between Trump and Biden. Trump will be the better choice than Biden.
No. Voting against Trump is rational, responsible and patriotic.
Trump is not a choice. Voting for Trump is unpatriotic, irrational and irresponsible.
You would willingly vote to put a traitor into the most powerful office on the planet.
Instead of acquiescing to put a traitor into the presidency you should have worked to detach him from the GOP. Now it is (possibly) too late. Now GOP members are stuck and engage in outrageous rationalization to vote for Trump.
It is pathetic.
Still a better choice than Biden.
So, how do we fight the crooked, rigged political system? The country being forced to choose between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump in 2016 proves that the political system is broken beyond repair.
It's like Travis King defecting to North Korea. No one forced King to run across the border into North Korea. King chose North Korea and Biden is going to play politics to gaslight the public about North Korea. But King's defection ain't about North Korea; it's about making a choice. North Korea was a better choice than Biden's America. And no matter how it's twisted, Trump is a better choice than North Korea. That means Trump is a better choice than North Korea and Biden's America.
If the political system is rigged to force me to choose between Trump and Biden then Trump wins. Biden just ain't a better choice in that contest.
Neither Trump nor Biden is a good choice. I refuse to vote for either one.
Travis King did not think about or vote for squat. He's a clueless petty coward who thought running across to North Korea would get him out of punishment for crimes he committed in both South Korea and in the US. Pretty sure he will find out otherwise.
According to the Biden Bolsheviks, King is a disadvantaged Black who was denied equity by racist justice. In Biden's America, Travis King is the victim. Demand equity for Travis King. Anything else in Biden's America is racist. Peacefully burn Seoul and defund the military police. Send Kamala-lala-ding dong to pound a podium and spout woke nonsense.
I, we, know what you meant to write.
It is. As a matter of fact, there is one lib right here on this seed that has said so.
Pretty much.
Worse is for blind partisans to exaggerate everything to the negative and build a bizarre fantasy of doom and gloom while entirely ignoring the danger of putting a traitor who will throw the nation under the bus if needed to get what he wants.
Take off your partisan blinders; if Trump were a D you would be having a field day and if Biden were an R you would be praising him. Deal with reality.
Oh, I see, I left out a 'not'. Thanks.
Projection, Deflection, Denial, and Delusion.
No, not true.
The Trump political accomplishments (as recognized by supporters) are now history. Plenty of GOP politicians could and would do likewise since Trump basically followed the GOP platform. There is no necessity for the GOP to put forth Trump as their nominee. If you want policies (which certainly is reasonable) pick someone other than Trump who will effect the desired policies.
We are in the present. And in the present, Trump is a demonstrable traitor who told (and continues to tell) the world that the USA electoral system is rigged, that Biden is an illegitimate PotUS, and that tens of millions of voters in the USA were disenfranchised. That Big Lie accompanied Trump's abuse of the authority of his office by attempting to coerce officials (e.g. Raffensperger and Bowers) and even suborn his V.P. to commit an unconstitutional act of tabling certified election results in a misguided attempt to steal the election. The only PotUS in our history who literally attempted to steal an election.
There are people fit to serve as the PotUS and then there are those who should never be allowed any public power. Trump is one of those. One wonders what Trump must do before people like you wake up.
The GOP has allowed Trump to continue to infect it and now we are looking at the likelihood of Trump taking the GOP's only nomination slot. In result, the blind partisans (like you) disregard the historical outrageous acts of Trump and exaggerate the failures of Biden in a feeble attempt to justify their irrational, irresponsible and unpatriotic support of a malignant narcissist, pathological lying traitor.
In your own words, you have solidified a no-confidence vote for the GOP candidate for president, senate and house of representatives. The party volitionally lends itself to aggressive, toxic, opportunists and con-people now-days. And in the process, not only will liberals lose greatly from a republican 'anywhere' making public policy/ies but so will secularists. As the Christian nationalists wing of the republican party is going after unrestricted religious expression in public spaces. That is, every gain made by liberals and secularists to date is up for regression. Gains will become losses in the next republican power grab of the house, senate, and presidency. The courts they have already achieved "takeover" authority for a "generation."
Not sure I have seen a post recently that gets so many things wrong in so few words as this crap from you.
Your style has not changed; when your feeble argument fails you troll on a foundation of ridiculous lies.
Thank you for the refresh of my memory. I, for my part, do not put people on ignore because it "ugliy" up my on screen display with fades. I will honor your request again for as long as I can remember to do so. CB OUT!
since the private doesn't want to face further discipline or imprisonment for his criminal acts, I'd say joe should send him a maga hat.
No, just don't bother to get him back.
After all, it was his choice to go willingly there.
No need for negotiations or trying to trade criminals or terrorists for this cretin.
Oh good afternoon. Thanks for stopping by.
Let me know if you can find a picture of this tough bad ass.
He must be a leftwinger who thought he would be treated better by little Kim.
Biden will kow-tow and grovel to get him back
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What will that tell you?
There are many questions about this strange incident. It would be nice to have a starting spot.
You already have several ... and many more to come.
In a Korean-language version of the message, U.N. Command said the U.S. national had "defected to North Korea," according to an English translation.
He must be a Trumpist who thought he would get as much love as Trump does from his love interest, murderous dictator Kim Jung Un.
-- Donald Trump, September 2018.
Exactly, I'm sure that this was a very political soldier.
Ask Greg.
Ask Greg what?
Perhaps he is just a apolitical soldier that expected to see the Democratic People's Republic of Korea immigrations officers and apply for asylum from the brutal US Army.
meh, you know that'll get deleted...
Out of the frying pan and into the fire. A series of poor decisions.
It is hard to believe!
Out of the frying pan and into the fire
What could he have been thinking?
Lol I doubt much thinking was involved in this decision
He's no genius.
Here's what I still don't get:
Details about King, including his hometown and what additional charges he faced, were not immediately available.
The Army will generally try to get to the family first.
They may have trouble getting him back from the Norks even with the family pleading with him.
If that is the procedure fine.
After release from their border patrol, he will likely see some Democratic People's Republic of Korea immigrations officers who will review his plea for asylum. Then he should get an immigration court date. While awaiting his court date, the soldier should be free to travel and work in the DPRK. Initially he will be eligible for Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, and Medicaid.
Shouldn't he expect to be put up in a hotel room, receive food, drink, clothing, and medical care?
Absolutely, I hear that the Yanggakdo Hotel in Pyongyang or the "Capital of the Revolution" is quite nice.
I can understand the first 4. Chances are all 4 probably served during the Korean War. War does some fucked up things to people both physically and mentally.
After that you would think knowledge of how North Korea operates would be available to everyone; especially in South Korea.
None of the first four fought in the Korean War.
Morning... obviously has a death wish and I am sure North Korea will grant it..
No, history shows that they are used for propaganda purposes.
This just in:
We now have a picture of the bad ass soldier who preferred North Korea:
How is that a help?
The embedded ABC report provided the initial details on this story.
In two ways:
1) As stated in 6.1.1
and
2) I'm afraid my first assumption was correct once again.
Dog whistle.
I heard this story today and all I could say is: Wow. How sad. I have no words. Another forced international incident shoved down an American president's 'throat' for no good reason. He is even being classified as a DESERTER now (and he is exactly so). How could he run across the border? What the "h" could he be looking for in North Korea. Well, here we go again. . . This is "jacked up."
Here's the deal. When some military personnel get in trouble with military law they take the 'heat' and the consequences. Some others simply can't abide the shame. . . so they run and make it worse. Even so. . . crossing the DMZ into a 'closed society'?! This 'kids' family must be in 'shock' right now.