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Why the U.S. Has the Most to Gain From Supporting Ukraine | TIME

  

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By:   Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven Tian (TIME)

Why the U.S. Has the Most to Gain From Supporting Ukraine | TIME
Supporting Ukraine is not just an act of courage or charity. It is in our self-interest, write Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven Tian.

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By Jeffrey Sonnenfeld and Steven TianFebruary 14, 2024 1:55 PM EST

Donald Trump's invitation for Russia to invade NATO countries catalyzed anxiety that Europe may have to fight Russian aggression alone, as Trump and his followers are becoming increasingly assertive that supporting Ukraine is a bad deal for the U.S.

Earlier this week, Trump, who has long viewed foreign policy from the prism of money, highlighted the defense money he says is supplied by the U.S., comparing it to that paid by other countries. "You don't pay your bills, you get no protection. It's very simple," he said. "Hundreds of billions of dollars came into NATO, and that's why they have money." Trump went on to call Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky "the greatest salesman in history" and promised that he himself will "get the Ukraine war settled."

On the heels of Tucker Carlson's fawning interview with President Vladimir Putin in Moscow, Elon Musk's assertion that "we have to kill" Ukraine aid because "there's no way in hell Putin is going to lose," and flagging public support for Ukraine more broadly, Trump is pressuring his House GOP acolytes, led by Speaker Mike Johnson, to kill the $60 billion funding bill for Ukraine, despite its passage by the Senate, with Marjorie Taylor Greene arguing "Ukraine is not the 51st state."

Having catalyzed 1,200 major global corporations to exit Russia two years ago in protest over the bloody invasion of a peaceful, sovereign nation, we are not surprised to have received scores of alarmed messages. We have been reviewing the economics behind continuing U.S. support to Ukraine, and even setting aside the terrible human suffering amidst thousands of civilian deaths; the fact that helping Ukraine defend itself is saving millions of lives and forestalling World War III given Putin's imperial ambitions; as well as the diplomatic and national security value of such aid, in actuality, the U.S. is the single biggest winner from supporting Ukraine. Here are three tangible reasons why.

90% of Ukraine aid spending stays in the U.S., creating thousands of jobs


Although some may claim U.S. aid vanishes into a cesspool of unchecked Ukrainian corruption, one study has shown that 90% of Ukraine aid dollars are not actually sent to Ukraine after all. Rather, these funds stay in the U.S., where leading defense contractors have invested tens of billions in over 100 new industrial manufacturing facilities, creating thousands of jobs across at least 38 states directly, with vital subcomponents sourced from all 50 states.

Virtually all the munitions Ukraine is most reliant upon are fully built in the U.S., ranging from javelins made in Alabama, to Guided Multiple Launch Rocket Systems (GMLRS) made in West Virginia, Arkansas, and Texas. Not forgetting the smaller-ticket items such as night-vision gear, medical supplies, and small-arms ammunition, all made in the U.S. Any additional Ukraine aid would likely only help the U.S. economy even more, since previous weapons shipments were largely drawdowns of musty old stockpiles and existing inventories rather than new supplies.

The Ukraine conflict has revitalized NATO, lessening the relative economic burden on the U.S.


Though Trump has complained for years that the European countries are not contributing their fair share to NATO—a common gripe of President Obama's as well—and despite Trump's threats to let "Russia do whatever the hell they want" to NATO free-riders, Trump largely failed in his quest to get the E.U. countries to contribute meaningfully more to their own defense, and ironically, only Putin has been able to succeed where Trump failed.

The degree to which Europe is now stepping up to the plate after Putin's invasion of Ukraine and sharing the burden with the U.S. is striking. Prior to Putin's invasion of Ukraine, only two European countries spent more than 2% of their GDP on defense spending. Now, 11 NATO members spend more than 2% of their GDP on defense, with some members such as Poland spending even more than the U.S. as a percentage of GDP. At least six European countries increased their defense spending by over 10% last year alone, including some by up to 30%.

Furthermore, although, under Trump, the U.S. spent over twice of what the rest of NATO spent on their own defense, combined; now, Europe's financial commitments toward Ukraine exceed that of the U.S., with European aid especially invaluable over the last month as the U.S. funding spigot dried up, with some countries such as Estonia setting aside half their defense budget for Ukraine. This is not to mention the addition of new members paying their own way such as Finland, with Sweden soon to follow.

Russian military might has been severely degraded without a single active duty American military casualty


Although critics point out that both Ukraine and Russia are largely stalemated militarily, with neither side making any substantive territorial gains since fall 2022, the U.S. is the single biggest winner regardless, with one of the world's three most potent militaries severely degraded and humiliated without a single active duty American military casualty, using only 5% of our U.S. defense budget and less than 1% of our total government spending—with a sum equivalent to the amount the U.S. is spending on such mundane items such as software for government agencies; COVID rental relief; and interstate highway traffic signs.

By contrast, Russia is now spending 40% of its government budget on defense, cannibalizing the rest of the productive economy to fund war after losing 50% of its military might over the last two years, not dissimilar to how Ronald Reagan's famed "Star Wars" program disproportionately drove Soviet military spending to unsustainable levels. This trend will likely only continue as Russia continues to embarrass itself over its incompetent prosecution of the war. After all, over the last five months alone, Russia has lost at least a fifth of its prized naval fleet—the most powerful navy in the world by some measures prior to the war—even though its adversary, Ukraine, does not even have a navy, amidst continued heavy casualties numbering over 500,000 by some estimates.

Elsewhere we have shown that the Russian productive economy is imploding under the weight of economic sanctions and historic corporate withdrawals of 1,000+ companies as well as Putin's cannibalization for the war effort. While Putin has concealed most of its required national income statistics to the International Monetary Fund (IMF), through triangulated research we previously found several Russian economic sectors have collapsed up to 90 percent, foreign direct investing into Russian has gone from $100 billion a year to zero, there has been a massive capital outflow matched by millions of top tech professional fleeing, over 2/3 of Russia's exports are energy and energy profits have been sliced in half with a virtual inability to sell its gas to any country and oil sold at breakeven prices. Beyond cannibalizing the 70 percent of the Russian economy he now controls, Putin's only hope for winning is that Trump will shatter the unity of allies which is strangling Russia's aggression.

As the House considers the $60 billion in Ukraine aid approved by the Senate, Speaker Mike Johnson need not be imprisoned by his past, similar to how Richard Nixon used his anticommunist credibility to forge a working relationship with communist China. In facing a similar dilemma eighty years ago, former GOP Senator Arthur Vandenberg, a leading isolationist, pivoted 180 degrees and helped fortify wavering GOP support for the Marshall Plan among his colleagues after World War II. Vandenberg warned in a pivotal speech on the floor of the Senate in 1945,

"We must have maximum Allied cooperation and minimum Allied frictions. We have fabulously earned the right to be heard in respect to the basis of this unity. We need the earliest possible clarification of our relations with our brave allies."

One does not even need to consider what the ripple effect of an appeasement-pleading surrender to Putin's brutal imperial ambitions would mean for Central Europe, not to mention Taiwan, and the global economic crisis that would cause, to see why the U.S is the single biggest winner from supporting Ukraine, with substantial, immediate, and tangible benefits for not just American security but also even the U.S. economy.

We need to not succumb to Trump's pathological career-long fear of partnership and collective action. As isolationist Vanderberg said, we must unify around "the most courageous thinking of which we are capable." We confront such a moment now, but supporting Ukraine is not just an act of courage, or even charity. Supporting Ukraine is in our self-interest, and America is the single biggest winner from supporting Ukraine.


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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    8 months ago

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Igknorantzruls
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1.1  Igknorantzruls  replied to  JBB @1    8 months ago

can this cancerous crouton from Putins' tossed hail Cesear Chavez salad dressing of vinegar and water, ever just elope with some other illegal immigrants teenage daughter, B 4 more Ukrainians' are led to slaughter , cause F the fruit cantaloupe, can't he just temporarily disappear 4 a while after a non fatal overdose on dope, so we , as in US, can have sum hope, as Putin strings him along with dangling rope, cause Trump knose knot of participles, butt, bet he pierced his nipples, and inserted rings, so Putin has a place to dangle His things.... 

 
 
 
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1.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Igknorantzruls @1.1    8 months ago

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Ronin2
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2  Ronin2    8 months ago
90% Of Ukraine Aid Spending Stays In The U.S., Creating Thousands Of Jobs

Unchecked, unpaided for, bloated government spending that increases the debt and inflation. Brilliant! 

The Ukraine Conflict Has Revitalized NATO, Lessening The Relative Economic Burden On The U.S.

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The author was probably spitting all over his keyboard laughing typing this. All the Ukraine war has proven is that NATO countries aren't  even capable of defending themselves. Must the less meeting their commitments to Ukraine.

Olaf Scholz and four other European leaders have admitted that the EU has “fallen short” of its goals to supply Ukraine with artillery ammunition.

On the eve of an emergency EU summit of EU leaders designed to break the deadlock between member states and Hungary’s Viktor Orbán over a £50bn aid package, they have warned that   Europe   needs to intensify and accelerate its supplies to the frontline.

“At the beginning of last year, the EU committed itself to an ambitious goal of supplying   Ukraine   with 1m artillery rounds before the end of March 2024. The hard truth: we have fallen short of this goal.

“Russia doesn’t wait for anybody and we need to act now. If Ukraine loses, the long-term consequences and costs will be much higher for all of us. We Europeans have a special responsibility. Therefore, we must act. Europe’s future depends on it,” they write in a letter published in the   Financial Times on Wednesday.

The letter is signed by Scholz and Mark Rutte, the Dutch prime minister; Kaja Kallas, the Estonian prime minister; Petr Fiala, the Czech prime minister; and Mette Frederiksen, the prime minister of Denmark.

The German chancellor is on a mission to get clarity and hard evidence on what other member states, particularly   France , contribute to the war effort amid concern that his government’s commitments are not being matched elsewhere.

After he raised concerns that there was not enough data on who contributed what, the EU’s diplomatic unit, the European External Action Service, has conducted a survey requesting that each member state disclose their planned expenditure for 2024 and beyond.

Sources say some countries have declined to reveal their commitments, fuelling suspicion that some member states are using confidentiality of military plans for convenience.

Europe’s approach to supporting Ukraine’s war effort is no longer fit for purpose. There is a desperate need for Europe to ramp up its defense industrial production. But despite a clear consensus behind this urgent need, European production lines are not yet maxing out their capacity. The root of the issue is not so much a lack of political will but, as is frequently the case with European defense, a failure to cooperate and a lack of funding.

The EU and NATO the tail that is again wagging the US dog.

Russian Military Might Has Been Severely Degraded Without A Single Active Duty American Military Casualty

That mission was accomplished long ago. Russia is no longer a military threat to Europe. If it wasn't for their nuclear weapons the US/NATO would have already seized Moscow. So why are we still wasting billions propping up a corrupt, pro fascist, Ukrainian government? One that their own people are now reluctant to fight for?

Never forget Putin wants Brandon in charge. So does Xi.

Still waiting for leftists to state what the US gains by supporting Ukraine? Which we wouldn't even need to do if Obama hadn't backed a coup to overthrow a duly elected pro Russian government.

The extent of the Obama administration’s meddling in Ukraine’s politics was breathtaking. Russian intelligence intercepted and leaked to the international media a Nuland  telephone call  in which she and U.S. ambassador to Ukraine Geoffey Pyatt discussed in detail their preferences for specific personnel in a post‐​Yanukovych government. The U.S‑favored candidates included Arseniy Yatsenyuk, the man who became prime minister once Yanukovych was ousted from power. During the telephone call, Nuland stated enthusiastically that “Yats is the guy” who would do the best job.

Nuland and Pyatt were engaged in such planning at a time when Yanukovych was still Ukraine’s lawful president. It was startling to have diplomatic representatives of a foreign country—and a country that routinely touts the need to respect democratic processes and the sovereignty of other nations—to be scheming about removing an elected government and replacing it with officials meriting U.S. approval.

Washington’s conduct not only constituted meddling, it bordered on micromanagement. At one point, Pyatt mentioned the complex dynamic among the three principal opposition leaders, Yatsenyuk, Oleh Tyahnybok, and Vitali Klitschko. Both Pyatt and Nuland wanted to keep Tyahnybok and Klitschko out of an interim government. In the former case, they worried about his extremist ties; in the latter, they seemed to want him to wait and make a bid for office on a longer‐​term basis. Nuland stated that “I don’t think Klitsch should go into the government. I don’t think it’s necessary.” She added that what Yatseniuk needed “is Klitsch and Tyanhybok on the outside.”

The two diplomats also were prepared to escalate the already extensive U.S. involvement in Ukraine’s  political turbulence . Pyatt stated bluntly that “we want to try to get somebody with an international personality to come out here and help to midwife this thing [the political transition].” Nuland clearly had Vice President Joe Biden in mind for that role. Noting that the vice president’s national security adviser was in direct contact with her, Nuland related that she told him “probably tomorrow for an atta‐​boy and to get the details to stick. So Biden’s willing.”

Both the Obama administration and most of the American news media portrayed the Euromaidan Revolution as a spontaneous, popular uprising against a corrupt and brutal government.

The US sucks at nation building. Yet we keep right on trying.

 
 
 
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3  Nerm_L    8 months ago

90% Of Ukraine Aid Spending Stays In The U.S., Creating Thousands Of Jobs

If this is true then why is it called Aid for Ukraine?  Since Reagan was President, neoliberal war hawks have used brush wars to pad military budgets, funnel Federal dollars to their districts, pay political debts, and grift for themselves.  The argument that aid for Ukraine creates jobs in the United States is nothing more than a continuing of the outright lies told the American people.  Neoliberals only care about the money.  Always have, always will.  War money spent in the US to support a brush war benefits Wall Street and cheats main street.  That's why Ukraine is a quagmire that will drag on for at least a decade; neoliberals won't kill their gravy train.  Right now Ukraine is competing for Federal dollars that could be spent on domestic programs like healthcare, education, alternative energy, border security, and a host of other supposed priorities used to guilt trip the American people. 

Biden lies, Ukrainians die, and the rich get richer.  See why we need to kick the neoliberals out of government?

The Ukraine Conflict Has Revitalized NATO, Lessening The Relative Economic Burden On The U.S.

How can Donald Trump invite Putin to attack NATO countries capable of defending themselves?  The only reason Trump's asinine remarks ruffles political feathers is because it threatens the neoliberal gravy train.  Neoliberals in our own Congress want NATO countries to be completely dependent upon the United States.  That's how the political deadwood leverages taxpayer money, money that is not theirs, for their own benefit.  The chest thumping war hawks are not spending their money; they're spending your money.  NATO couldn't defend itself from an attack by Chechnya (which has threatened an attack) without enormous amounts of support from the United States.  Our own Congress has weakened NATO because the US taxpayer covers all the bills.

Russian Military Might Has Been Severely Degraded Without A Single Active Duty American Military Casualty

The end of the Cold War degraded Russian military might.  Russia lost its navy and most of its air force.  Neoliberals fearmongered the worry of Russia selling its military might to bad actors like North Korea, Pakistan, Iran, and, even, Iraq.  Neoliberals were even trying to scare Americans that Muammar Gaddafi of Libya could one day have a Russian submarine and threaten the Mediterranean - and - NATO.  Russia failed in Afghanistan just like the United States.  Russia had to fight hard to beat Chechnya (which is pimple on Georgia's ass).  Russia hasn't defeated Ukraine's (and Europe's) arsenal of outdated, antiquated Soviet weapons and munitions in two years of fighting.  

The United States could pound Moscow into submission from the North Sea without setting foot on Russian soil.  This brag about someone else fighting an American war reveals the full measure of neoliberal duplicity.  Our own government wanted a war in Ukraine.  The American taxpayer will pay for it, the Ukrainian people with die for it, and our own political deadwood reaps the benefits.  So, wave the flag and kiss Biden's ass because you owe him.

 
 

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