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Cognitive Decline? Trump Short-Circuits During Bonkers Rant

  

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Via:  jbb  •  one month ago  •  67 comments

By:   Yahoo News

Cognitive Decline? Trump Short-Circuits During Bonkers Rant
The former president glitched during a tirade about sharks and batteries.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Ellie Quinlan Houghtaling June 10, 2024 at 10:18 AM

Donald Trump appeared fully unable to articulate a story about electric batteries on Sunday, instead opting to spin a thread in which zero of the underlying premises were actually true.

During his Las Vegas rally, the presumptive GOP presidential nominee told a story that flew a bit off the rails. The tale began by allegedly asking a South Carolinian boat manufacturer, who made boats that were too heavy and "can't go fast," a self-described "very smart" question about the efficacy of electric batteries in water-faring vessels—but then quickly devolved into nonsense about Trump's fear of sharks.

"So I said, 'Let me ask you a question,'" Trump told the crowd. "And he said, 'Nobody ever asked this question.' And it must be because of MIT. My relationship to MIT. Very smart. He goes. I say, "What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? And you're in the boat and you have this tremendously powerful battery, and the battery is now underwater, and there's a shark that's approximately 10 yards over there."

Then, a quick sidenote: "By the way, a lot of shark attacks lately. You notice that? A lot of shark. I watch some guys justifying it today. 'Well, they weren't really that angry. They bit off the young lady's leg because of the fact that they were—they were not hungry, but they misunderstood what-who she was.' These people are crazy."

And back to the story.

"He said, 'There's no problem with sharks. They just didn't really understand a young woman swimming. No really got decimated and other people too, a lot of shark attacks,'" Trump recalled, his voice pitching. "So I said, 'So there's a shark 10 yards away from the boat, 10 yards or here. Do I get electrocuted? If the boat is sinking, water goes over the battery, the boat is sinking. Do I stay on top of the boat and get electrocuted? Or do I jump over by the shark and not get electrocuted?"

"Because I will tell you, he didn't know the answer. He said, 'You know, nobody's ever asked me that question.' I said, 'I think it's a good question. I think there's a lot of electric current coming through that water.' But you know what I'd do if there was a shark or you get electrocuted? I'll take electrocution every single time. I'm not getting near the shark!" Trump said.

Trump: It must be because of my relationship with M.I.T., very smart, I say, what would happen if the boat sank, and you have this tremendously powerful battery, and the battery is now underwater…. Do I get electrocuted or do I jump over by the shark? pic.twitter.com/zAUkDoOBD3 — Acyn (@Acyn) June 9, 2024

Meanwhile, things didn't look so hot for Trump's team behind the scenes. At several points during the rally, Trump actually attempted to read his teleprompter but claimed it wasn't working, suggesting to the crowd that he didn't intend to pay for a "shitty job."

"And then I don't pay the company that does it, right?" Trump said. "And then I end up with a story, 'Trump doesn't pay.' I don't pay contractors that do a shitty job. And that's a shitty job. That's a shitty job. You can't read a word."

Then they'll say, 'Oh, isn't it terrible? Trump takes advantage of his—,'" he continued, before cutting himself off. "No … when I have a good contractor, a subcontractor, nobody gets paid faster. But when I have contractors that do this kind of work? You can have them."

Trump is notorious for stepping out on the check, according to several former employees and contractors who have accused him of failing to pay up, sometimes to the tune of millions of dollars. His former attorney Rudy Giuliani may be one of the most recent instances of a former fixer being left holding the bag, but even before his 2016 presidential win, Trump was involved in more than 3,500 lawsuits for allegedly skirting the bill.


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    one month ago

Every news organization today is talking about Trump's complete mental break down in front of his own rally yesterday. It was that bad! So bad...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.1  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1    one month ago

gee, remember back when unamerican pre-maga scum ridiculed teleprompters and those that used them? 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    one month ago

Trump talks that way all the time, that's why I never pay any attention to what he says. But he's clearly understandable and doesn't mumble and whisper like Biden.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    one month ago

Trump mentally disintegrated before our eyes!

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.2.2  Gsquared  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    one month ago
Trump talks that way all the time

Trump has descended into babbling incoherently in all of his speeches.

 I never pay any attention to what he says

You should.  Then you would know what a psychopath he is.

he's clearly understandable

Odd coming from someone who never pays any attention to what he says.

doesn't mumble

Sure he does.  If you actually listened to any of his speeches you would know.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
1.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Gsquared @1.2.2    one month ago
doesn't mumble

How would Greg know that unless he was listening to him?

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.4  devangelical  replied to  JBB @1.2.1    one month ago
Trump mentally disintegrated before our eyes!

the presidential debates will be hilarious...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.2.5  devangelical  replied to  Gsquared @1.2.2    one month ago

trump's brain dead rambling and a mic that gets cut off ...

I fully expect trump to try and weasel out of doing it.

 
 
 
Gsquared
Professor Principal
1.2.6  Gsquared  replied to  devangelical @1.2.5    one month ago

I'm sure he will be just as eloquent as he was when he testified at his trial.

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.3  goose is back  replied to  JBB @1    one month ago
Every news organization today is talking about Trump's complete mental break down i

Just out of curiosity, is every news organization talking about Biden's cognitive decline?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  goose is back @1.3    one month ago

No, because President Biden keeps exceeding expectations...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
1.3.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @1.3.1    one month ago

Those must be some pretty low expectations that being the case.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  goose is back @1.3.3    one month ago

Biden's State of the Union Address is only one example...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.3.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @1.3.4    one month ago

Using the worst  polling state of the union in recorded history as an example of exceeding expectations is some kind of an argument, I’ll give you  that, 

 
 
 
goose is back
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1.3.6  goose is back  replied to  JBB @1.3.4    one month ago
Biden's State of the Union Address is only one example..

Let me correct that for you.

Biden's State of the Union Address was his only example..
 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
1.3.7  MrFrost  replied to  goose is back @1.3.6    one month ago

Even Hanitty said he looked, "very sharp". 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.8  seeder  JBB  replied to  goose is back @1.3.6    one month ago

Yet, stammering Biden makes sense while Trump doesn't!

Like Jimmy Stewart Biden always had his. Trump is failing.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
1.3.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  JBB @1.3.8    one month ago

Biden doesn’t stammer and hasn’t since he was a teen. 
he struggles to  string coherent sentences together without help, which is why most voters don’t expect him to live another four years. They’ve seen seniors decline before and know the symptoms.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.10  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.9    one month ago

original original original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.3.11  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.3.8    one month ago

Always liked Jimmy Stewart.  A patriot who lived a life of integrity and honesty.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.12  seeder  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.3.11    one month ago

Despite his stammer nobody said Mr Smith was inarticulate!

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.3.13  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.3.12    one month ago

No, and no one said that he plagiarized either.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.14  seeder  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.3.13    one month ago

Jimmy Stewart didn't write Mr Smith Goes To Washington! 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.3.15  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.3.14    one month ago

Who accused him of that?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.16  seeder  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.3.15    one month ago

Another Steve Urkel of comments...

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.3.17  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.3.16    one month ago

I think that I was living in Germany and the Mideast when his show was on.  Never saw it, were you  fan?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.3.18  seeder  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.3.17    one month ago

No, not a fan...

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
1.3.19  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.3.9    one month ago
most voters don’t expect him to live another four years. They’ve seen seniors decline before and know the symptoms.

we're watching it happen in real time with the 34x convicted felon candidate...

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.3.20  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.3.19    one month ago

I want to know what the question was from the MIT professor?????????

 
 
 
evilone
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2  evilone    one month ago

To answer the idiotic question what happens to the electrical current of batteries in water - water immediately disrupts the flow of electrons in a battery causing a chemical short. I didn't need to go to MIT to learn that either.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @2    one month ago

That's what I thought

 
 
 
bccrane
Freshman Silent
2.2  bccrane  replied to  evilone @2    one month ago

Which type of battery, lead acid or lithium ion?

A 12 volt battery may give you a close proximity tickle, but I don't think the manufacturer is using 12 volt car batteries, instead they would be using lithium ion in series and parallel combinations to increase voltage and amperage while also installing an inverter to get AC from the DC current of the batteries in able to use the more efficient multiple phase motors to power the boat.  That is where I would be really concerned unless it is all ground faulted on the AC side but you still have a high potential battery possibly discharging into the water.

Using two 12 volt batteries in series for a trolling motor on my pontoon you can get about two miles of use before it starts to slow down from a crawl to a creep. 

 
 
 
evilone
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2.2.1  evilone  replied to  bccrane @2.2    one month ago
Which type of battery, lead acid or lithium ion?

We had separate cells of lead acid tied in series. The system is sometimes referred to as an 'accumulator'. I've read some ships use nickel cadmium grouped together inside a steel casing. Maybe they are using lithium ion these days, those were developed long after I retired.

That is where I would be really concerned unless it is all ground faulted on the AC side but you still have a high potential battery possibly discharging into the water

I think it depends on the volume of water and what the water contains. Pure water is a poor conductor. Saltwater is better but a roomful of salt water would still insulate some.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
2.2.2  evilone  replied to  bccrane @2.2    one month ago

I was actually reading a different article a moment ago about Trump's rant. It was all about EVs, trucks and boats. So know I have to assume he's talking about lithium ion batteries.

Trump's rant claimed EV trucks weigh 2 to 3 times what conventional trucks weigh, which isn't even close to true. The Ford F150 Lightning is only 20% heaver. If he's talking about otr haulers, they are only 2.5% heavier. And electric boats would definitely not sink due to battery weight. Again are not an electrocution concern due to the construction and water volume in an ocean sinking even if we are talking about LI batteries.

 
 
 
devangelical
Professor Principal
2.3  devangelical  replied to  evilone @2    one month ago

some people think AC/DC is only a rock and roll band...

 
 
 
MrFrost
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3  MrFrost    one month ago

It was fucking weird..

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  MrFrost @3    one month ago

No wonder MAGA are already lying about Biden. Let the debate begin!

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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3.1.1  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @3.1    one month ago

There is no debate. Biden mental decline and speed of the decline is an order of magnitude worse than trump's . The only reason dems focus on Trump is to try and divert attention away from joe. Anyone that is non partisan can see that.

 
 
 
George
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3.1.2  George  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.1    one month ago
order of magnitude worse

LOL

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.1    one month ago

That is what the MAGA say but what the voters see and hear is a different story...

Did you ses the video of Trump's speech?

Joe will wipe the floor with Trump's ass at the debate, if Trump even shows up!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  George @3.1.2    one month ago

"Imitatation is the sincerest form of flattery" - JBB and TiG

Now do try to say something original...

 
 
 
George
Junior Expert
3.1.5  George  replied to  JBB @3.1.3    one month ago
Joe will wipe the floor with Trump's ass at the debate

"pause"

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.6  MrFrost  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.1    one month ago
Biden

Oh I'm sorry, we're talking about trump. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  George @3.1.5    one month ago

original

 
 
 
goose is back
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3.1.8  goose is back  replied to  JBB @3.1.7    one month ago

and a few minutes later Biden falls off his bike. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
Professor Guide
3.1.9  MrFrost  replied to  goose is back @3.1.8    one month ago

and a few minutes later Biden falls off his bike. 

Can trump even spell, "bike"?

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.6    one month ago

Right up until 3.1

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.11  Right Down the Center  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.9    one month ago

Do you have any proof that he cant?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
3.1.12  seeder  JBB  replied to  Right Down the Center @3.1.11    one month ago

original

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.13  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @3.1.3    one month ago
That is what the MAGA say but what the voters see and hear is a different story..

Not really.  According to AP on March 4th 80 percent of independents felt Biden did not have the mental capacity to be president compared to Trumps 56 %.  Do you have something showing he fares better with independents?

Joe will wipe the floor with Trump's ass at the debate, if Trump even shows up! 

Wishful thinking is a good thing but that is all it is.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.14  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @3.1.4    one month ago

I think Oscar Wilde beat you to  it.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Senior Guide
3.1.15  Right Down the Center  replied to  JBB @3.1.12    one month ago

You forgot Joe Biden "End of Quote, repeat the line"

 
 
 
afrayedknot
Junior Quiet
3.1.16  afrayedknot  replied to  goose is back @3.1.8    one month ago

“…and a few minutes later Biden falls off his bike. “

….and at the end of his round, trump claims yet another club championship…

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4  Trout Giggles    one month ago
"What would happen if the boat sank from its weight? 

I dunno...aircraft carriers seem to do pretty well out in the open water....

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
4.1  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    one month ago

Several cruise ships are actually larger than our biggest carrier.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @4.1    one month ago

Well there ya go...they manage to stay afloat

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.2  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @4    one month ago

A ship can be sink, not usually from it's own weight, but from being over loaded. Mostly what happens is the freight  shifting during transit. 

We just had a Laker (a laker is a ship moving around the Great Lakes) hauling taconite split it's hull this last weekend. Both the US and Canadian officials are still investigating the cause, but there is a 13 foot tear in the underside of the ship. Early reports suggest it was metal fatigue. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @4.2    one month ago

Thank you for that. I wasn't in the Navy so know next to nothing about ships.

Hell, I was in the Air Force and can really only ID a few aircraft

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.2.2  evilone  replied to  Trout Giggles @4.2.1    one month ago
I wasn't in the Navy so know next to nothing about ships.

I learned a thing or two in the Coast Guard. Mostly that Navy wives are lonely.... hahahaha. JK!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  evilone @4.2.2    one month ago
Navy wives are lonely.

I heard that in the AF, too. After 9/11 airmen were gone from their families for months sometimes over a year

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Professor Participates
4.2.4  Greg Jones  replied to  evilone @4.2    one month ago

Ship was 70 some years old.

 
 
 
evilone
Professor Guide
4.2.5  evilone  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2.4    one month ago
Ship was 70 some years old.

They do have some pretty old ships on the lakes.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  seeder  JBB    one month ago

The Meme Of The Day...

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
5.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @5    one month ago

There’s no way that you can limit yourself to one meme of the day.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
6  seeder  JBB    one month ago

Another good one...

original

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
7  seeder  JBB    one month ago

original

 
 

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