Questions raised about medically juicing Biden for debate
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Via: vic-eldred • 6 months ago • 37 commentsBy: Paul Bedard
W ith President Joe Biden physically drained by one long European trip and now off to southern Italy for the annual Group of Seven economic summit, expectations are growing that he will return for a long Camp David rest to prepare for the first 2024 debate on June 27 with former President Donald Trump.
Some are speculating that Biden, seen Monday night standing stiff and unconnected to the White House celebration of Juneteenth on the South Lawn, may be medically revitalized during his visit to the Maryland presidential resort.
Kellyanne Conway, a former White House adviser to Trump, suggested on Fox on Wednesday that Biden might get juiced.
"I wonder what's going to happen with him medically at Camp David for 10 days because we have no hard evidence that Joe Biden can stand anywhere, let alone at a podium, intimidated by Donald Trump feet away from him for 90 minutes without a teleprompter," she said, according to a post on X.
Similar suggestions were aired after Biden's recent State of the Union address, in which he appeared engaged and lingered long after to socialize with politicians in the House chamber.
Trump, for example, rumored that Biden was on stimulating drugs. At one point, when the president verbally stumbled, Trump said on social media, "THE DRUGS ARE WEARING OFF!" He has also called for pre-debate drug tests.
Biden spent the weekend in France, attending D-Day anniversary events and a state visit. He returned briefly to the White House, where he was seen frozen on the South Lawn during a musical performance that had those around him dancing in place. He left for Italy on Wednesday.
Biden's plans for debate preparation have not been announced. News reports suggest he plans to spend several days at Camp David, where media are not allowed.
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Biden can put it all to rest once and for all....Take the test.
Okay! Cool as long as we drug test both candidates. What say ye?
Absolutely. One has already offered. Now what do you say????
Trump is a drug addict, already been proven.
Don’t know who’s medical records these are but are you violating HIPAA?
That one has also said that he would testify at all of his trials, which of course was a lie, I think we can take his current offer with a gain of salt, or better yet a shaker of salt.
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Take care everyone. Buh bye.
#34 needs to take something to stop that uncontrolled diarrhea coming from its' mouth
I'll pass on your pro tip at the next seance, see if we can raise Ike.
I like Ike.
His pupils get crazy when the dose is a little off.
Like they are in outer space.
I wonder if that happened to Clark Kent when the Superman shot began to wear off.
They need to find an anti-psychotic drug for Trump to take to combat his schizophrenia and try to stop his hallucinations.
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That's not fair to schizophrenics. #34 is mentally disabled on a whole 'nother level.
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Why should anyone care if he takes medication for energy or improved cognition or anything else? I hope he's taking every medicine that might benefit him. I would want that for any president.
Idiots are trying to turn something benign into an Olympic doping scandal. It's a different situation.
Do you take medicine to control diabetes? COPD? Anxiety? Arthritis? Hay Fever?
If you were at risk for Alzheimers and could take medicine for it, wouldn't you? This is a stupid and frankly obnoxious attempt to invade someone else's medical choices (what else is new, GOP?) and scandalize doing the right thing.
If we are talking about a maintenance drug that a person takes 100% of the time I agree 100%. If it is needed 1% of the time to be able to think/speak coherently I have to wonder what the person is like the other 99% of the time.
It doesn’t make any difference. I drink coffee to get me going, but only in the morning. I take antacids, but only after spaghetti. What matters is the overall performance, not what he has to pull out of his medicine cabinet to accomplish it.
Sounds like you are saying it is OK to take uppers only when you need to be "up". When can a president afford to not be "up"?
Do you think emergencies align with medication schedules? Can they wait to ramp up his cognitive abilities? What if they last more than a couple hours?
Lots of times. All presidents do things to relax. They even sleep. Every night. It's actually a healthy way to be.
I think judging the performance over how he manages it is a perfectly reasonable standard.
You're getting your panties in a twist over vague hypotheses. It's ridiculous to speculate on how any president's particular medication and health status will interact with an unspecified emergency. There are too many variables.
And anyway, all presidents are mentally compromised from time to time. They may be stressed about - or distracted by - the general state of affairs in the world, a specific situation, or something in their family. We have had combat veterans serve as president, and I don't think it would be impossible that every last one of them had some level of PTSD. Or maybe they have some chronic injury or pain situation, and that distracts them.
FDR was president for 12 years and couldn't work his legs the whole time. JFK had Addison's Disease. Ike had Crohn's disease. These men were all perfectly good presidents, but they probably would have preferred not to have the distraction of their conditions.
What matters is the performance of the job.
So, by all means, when you think about voting, consider whether or not you think a candidate can do the job, but disqualifying him on the sole basis that he takes medication is extremely short sighted, in my opinion. If he takes medication and it works, then it makes no difference to me.
And if Biden isn't taking medication to improve his performance, I kind of wish he would.
They may be stressed about - or distracted by - the general state of affairs in the world, a specific situation,
yeah, it’s crazy to think the president of the most powerful country in the world might have to make a decision after dark or before his stimulants kick in. Let’s just hope that never happens becuase asking that the president not suffer from cognitive deficits is just too much to ask.
They may be stressed about - or distracted by - the general state of affairs in the world, a specific situation,
that is such a preposterously dishonest argument. Kudos, Didn’t expect to see Biden’s deteriorating mental state equated to stress, but here we are. Amazing.
You’re engaging in a straw man argument now. I specifically spoke against this kind of hypothesizing but you want to pretend it’s my position. It’s not. I said the performance matters. Again, speculating about a specific situation, a specific mental health condition, and specific meds is pointless. You don’t have that much information.
No, it’s the argument of someone who has studied mental health a little. There is a lot of ignorance about this out there, so your quick skepticism, while disappointing, is not surprising.
Didn’t get the dose right.
here he is wandering off and having to be corralled by the Italian PM
Classic.............
It’s just embarrassing that leaders of other countries have to mind him like a toddler.
“…mind him like a toddler.”
….as opposed to his predecessor and thus beating him like a drum in his oft stated desire to be the unquestioned leader of his very own autocratic regime.
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Ha
Why are you deflecting?
Biden scolds a reporter for asking about Gaza and not a pre-approved question about Ukraine: “I wish you guys would play by the rules”
that’s where we are at. The independent press’s role is to stick to the script and let the president play act like an actual president. It’s just a stage produced play that demeans both the press and the presidency
And our country.