‘Rambling’ Biden Gets Nasty With Bronze Star Democrat on Zoom Call
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About an hour before a 20-year-old gunman rattled off three shots at Donald Trump on Saturday, Joe Biden got nasty at times in a “tense” Zoom meeting with dozens of moderate Democratic lawmakers who called his viability on the presidential ticket into question.
Among them was Rep. Jason Crow (D-CO), a former Army Ranger who served three tours in the Middle East, who found himself on the brunt end of a personal attack from Biden after he asked about the importance of national security to voters in November, Puck reported.
“First of all, I think you’re dead wrong on national security,” the president said to Crow. “You saw what happened recently in terms of the meeting we had with NATO. I put NATO together. Name me a foreign leader who thinks I’m not the most effective leader in the world on foreign policy. Tell me! Tell me who the hell that is!”
Biden’s response then got personal with Crow.
“Tell me something you’ve never done with your Bronze Star like my son,” Biden said.
Crow reportedly remained calm, responding, “It’s not breaking through, Mr. President, to our voters.”
“You oughta talk about it!” Biden shot back, according to Puck. “On national security, nobody has been a better president than I’ve been. Name me one. Name me one! So I don’t want to hear that crap!”
The Bronze Star is awarded for either heroic achievement, heroic service, meritorious achievement, or meritorious service in a combat zone.
Biden’s son, Beau Biden, received the medal for his service in Iraq in 2008 and 2009 as a member of the Judge Advocate General (JAG) Corps. Crow received his citation in 2003 for his actions as a platoon leader in the 82nd Airborne Division during the Battle of Samawah—the largest sustained urban combat that paratroopers of the 82nd Airborne had been involved in since World War II.
Calls for Biden to bow out of the presidential race have reduced to a minimum after the assassination attempt on Trump, despite polls showing he’s slated to be soundly defeated in key battleground states.
Biden’s call on Saturday did little to calm the nerves of Democrats in tight races of their own, with lawmakers telling Puck that Biden was “rambling,” “dismissive of concerns,” and “unable or unprepared to present a campaign strategy.”
One lawmaker on the call told the website that they’d lost “a ton” of respect for Biden after the meeting.
“He was rambling,” the unnamed lawmaker said. “He’d start an answer then lose his train of thought, then would just say ‘whatever.’ He really couldn’t complete an answer. I lost a ton of respect for him.”
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The two sides of Biden on display during the call. The rambling idiot and the bullying megalomanic:
Did he call him a lying dogface pony soldier?
Probably also called him "fat" and challenged him to a fist fight. That's how Biden usually deals with being challenged.
If they are African American Biden will bring a length of chain, like he did for Corn Pop.
The assassination attempt probably saved Biden's candidacy:
. “Had the assassination attempt not occurred an hour later, I imagine 50 people on that Zoom were ready to come out publicly against him.”
Pinocchio Joe seems to be a bit full of himself.
You and the rest of the country.
"Name me a foreign leader who thinks I’m not the most effective leader in the world on foreign policy. Tell me! Tell me who the hell that is!”
That's more Trump than Trump.
Biden has done a fine job of being president, and clearly could continue to do so.
He is not the best Democrat to RUN for president though. He has slowed down to the point where he has difficulty taking it to Trump the way it needs to be done.
Do you think a sane person would describe Joe Biden as the best President in American history on foreign policy?
would a sane person think "only trump can fix it" ?
If you want to keep arguing Biden is the same as Trump, I'm not going to disagree with you.
The difference is I won't vote for Trump, yet you'll vote for a senile megalomaniac.
Would a sane person think Biden can fix it when he has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt he can't.
If Biden was on a ventilator with a hundred tubes sticking out of nose and mouth I would vote for him over Trump. Trump is a known traitor. Be happy we have a corrupt corporate media that refuses to address the issue.
They've been too busy covering for the incompetence you boast about supporting.
So John, why won't you answer a simple question? Nobody here has claimed trump is the best president in American history on Foreign policy. So I will try again for Sean.
I dont care if he is the best foreign policy president or not.
He is not running for the position of best foreign policy president in history.
Still a non-answer, you really shouldn't berate trump supporters if you can't be honest about the person you support.
I gave you a complete answer. Whether or not he is the best foreign policy president in history is irrelevant to whether he should be elected over Trump .
So i will ask again, what sane person thinks Biden is the best foreign policy president and the best on National security?
I didn't ask if he should be elected over trump, I asked a simple question, would any sane person believe the above?
Biden and his supporters are telling a big lie: that he’s sharp, fit and ready to govern another four years.
We can all see that just isn’t so.
Joe disagrees and see it as very relevant. Else why would he have said “Name me a foreign leader who thinks I’m not the most effective leader in the world on foreign policy. Tell me! Tell me who the hell that is!” during his teleconference with Dem House members on should he stay or should he go.
I'm sure there are 13 Gold Star families from August of 2021 that think Biden's foreign policy highly questionable.
Denying their deaths was not a great look.
and clearly could continue to do so
even a partisan hack like Adam schiff disagrees with you
There have been a number of "liberals" on NT that have suggested Biden should drop out. Not a single conservative here that I know of has called for Trump to drop out. That is the difference between us and them. Trump is completely unfit for office, and it is quite obvious, but all we hear from you is about Biden.
That comment is absolute bullshit. here is a comment to you in the last 2 days.
How many times are you going to say that when you know it's not true?
give me the links.
george says he did yesterday. I will take his word for it but i did not see it.
Lets have Biden and Trump drop out at the same time and start over.
Problem is Trump has a cult following that would never go along.
He did.
I have never supported Trump in a primary or general and I haven’t kept that a secret here.
I know john likely considers me a conservative , hell more likely he thinks im a pain in the ass.
But I cannot say trump should withdraw from the race . one reason is im not a republican so it is not my place to tell a party i dont belong to who to run as a candidate , the other reason i wouldnt count , is i have already publicly stated im not voting for him .
As for me not being critical of trump, well personally for me , the highest form of critism i can have is simply say publicly the candidate wont get my vote .
Trump should withdraw , not because he is the Republican nominee, but because he might win and he is utterly unfit to serve as president.
John him winning, if he does , is your problem to deal with.
I will admit though, his odds of winning went up dramatically since 7/13, in my view if what i am seeing holds true , but likely not for the reasons you would come up with.
Highly misleading statement there John. I myself have called for it numerous times as have other conservatives on NT along with Biden to do the same. Imo neither one are fit for a second term as president.
The difference is, If and when Biden steps down the left will spin as he is doing it because of some imaginary illness or for the good of the country, they will never admit it is because of mental decline and that he is incapable of continuing to perform even the simplest of duties demanded of a president.
There is no way trump steps down his ego just won't allow for that to happen, lets just hope the democrats pick someone competent to replace him so we have someone we can actually feel good about voting for, and that is nether Harris or Newsome.
“Biden has done a fine job of being president,”
Where the hell have you been? Between food prices, gas prices, afghanistan, his completely stupid war on oil, his push for ev’s when the tech and infrastructure is no where near ready, the embarrassing appointments (sam brinton, richard levine and more), having taxpayers pay irresponsible people’s student loans, his clear signs of dementia dating back to the 2020 debates, the BORDER,? Biden has been a complete fucking disaster.
Although i will give credit where credit is due. Two july 4ths ago hotdogs were 16 cents lower than the year before.
Lets look at some of this. According to the Budget Committee, he's failing. (but we all knew that didn't we?)
Why don't we start with inflation:
Now jobs:
Health Care:
Student loans:
How about the debt:
Only the 25th Amendment can save this election.
The Dems are too chicken shit to use it.
They would have to admit the problem that they spent years covering up.
They're fixing to have to. What do you think that convention is gonna be like?
That's one way of looking at it. Another is
"let's not thank God for not protecting Corey Comperatore and not miraculously turning his head as the shots were fired." amen
Imagine if he said he was waiting for the lord almighty to tell him whether to run for president or not.
you’d really have something to attack him for then
placards being passed out to all the delegates so they can wave them around at the convention tonight
so no criticism of Biden relying on God's intervention to tell him what to do? Seems odd given your obsessive posting about any republican who even so much as suggests God might exist.
Did God want Trump to survive but not the firefighter? What an odd and disturbing thing for people to say. But more and more appear to be saying it every day, including the biggest names in Republican politics.
Did God want Trump to survive but not the firefighter?
I have no idea. It seems to me those who believe in God believe that God's will is not something is challenged or second guessed. It's accepted.
Aren't you a Catholic? Odd that you seemed to have been taught God is answerable to you. Seems directly at odds with what I was taught and my understanding, limited though it may be, of current Catholic doctrine. So your view seems to be that it's wrong to ever thank god for anything, because bad things also happen in the world. That's not at all compatible with my understanding of Christianity, but maybe there's some new sect that I'm unaware of who believes such things.
There is so much unexplainable suffering in this world that I am more than willing to say we dont and cannot know the intentions of God. Yet the Christians in the Republican Party are downright enthusiastic about saying God personally and particularly spared Donald Trump.
This is not said as a true spiritual expression, it is said in order to try and make Trump seem "special", a real Man Of Destiny, so much so that God himself turned Trump's head at that split second.
Most Christians I know thank God for good things that happen. It's the most normal thing in the world. When a Christian hear someone is cancer free, they'll often say "thank god." Do you take that as some sort of attack on those who don't survive cancer?
Fuck Ukraine.
They are Europe's problem; and Europe doesn't want to deal with it.
Name one damn thing that Ukraine supplies than the US can't supply ourselves? Outside of an ultra corrupt government that gives kick backs to politicians, their family members, and cronies.
We have wasted enough money on that fascist shit hole country.
If its such a shithole country why is Putin willing to kill hundreds of thousands of his own young men trying to take it ?
Learn geography.
Did we tolerate Russia moving nukes into Cuba- even though they would have been in soft bunkers and easy for us to take out? Would we allow a pro Russian government to be installed in Canada or Mexico? Ones that would allow Russian forces and equipment to be harbored there?
Ukraine is a very large country located directly on Russia's back door.
Same damn difference.
So much for the US/NATO's promise to Russia not to go flipping every last former Soviet Union buffer state.
Because Putin is a power hungry mad man with his sights set to bring back the Russian empire. I thought you knew that.
Not to mention that Poland also borders Ukraine and is a NATO member. The idea of Russia being able to move nukes, airfields, and large numbers of troops and armor into a conquered Ukraine makes Poland and many European NATO members very nervous about Russia and it's intentions.
The US does that too.
Biden directed this to a 82nd Airborne veteran who won his bronze star in Iraq during combat
“Tell me who did something that you’ve never done with your Bronze Star like my son.”
What does it mean?
i have no idea
"Biden took a swipe at skeptical House Democrat's military service during tense Zoom call, report says (msn.com)"
From the article above....
" During a tense Zoom call with members of the centrist New Democrat Coalition on Saturday, President Joe Biden reportedly took a swipe at Rep. Jason Crow's military service.
The exchange, according to Puck News , took place after Crow, a Colorado Democrat who's been publicly skeptical of Biden's continued viability in the wake of a disastrous debate performance last month, asked the president a question about national security.
Biden reportedly replied:
Crow, a former Army Ranger elected to Congress during the 2018 "Blue Wave," earned the Bronze Star Medal for his service during the Iraq War. The award is given to members of the military who show acts of heroism in the field or had an otherwise praiseworthy tenure.
Biden's son Beau, who died in 2015, also served in Iraq and received a Bronze Star"
personally i wouldnt mind reading the citations that went with both individuals awards
Its not hard to see one awarded for actions during combat like crows . .
it is kind of rare to see one awarded to a JAG officer since they rarely actually see combat .
My thoughts exactly. Crowe actually earned his through his military actions in the 82nd airborne. Beau probably got his for not getting a hangnail and being the Vice President’s son.
Jason Crow's Bronze Star has the ''V'' device Bidn's doesn't.
i think you understand what im thinking , the award itself garners a certain amount of respect , the devices attatched , which i didnt know crow had the V device , tells more of the story .
reading the article , i was somewhat impressed with crows reaction . he gave the respect to the office of president that was due , even if the person holding it was getting "SALTY". and disrespectful .
I for one would not have blamed him for becoming just as salty right back if he had chose to , but all that would have turned into was a pissing match . one not worth the effort , because those that know and understand , do .
Yup, that is my thoughts as well.
here is a story , off topic , when my oldest grand daughter saw my ribbon board she asked what they meant . i told her for the most part there were only 3 ribbons that meant anything to me the rest were given for show .
i pointed to the overseas ribbon and told her what that was for , then the presidential unit citation ribbon , explaining that even though it was more of a morale builder it meant to me i was part of a team that could do its job as expected without exception ,
the last ribbon i pointed to was my good conduct ribbon , i told her what that was for , then i added grinning , what i earned that one for was being able to behave and it showed that i could ...... the meaning of that was not lost on her at that time .
Two hold major importance for me, my CIB and my Jump Wings.
I highly doubt even Biden has any clue. I think certain mental filters he may or may not have once had have since eroded away.
Joe’ big dilemma:
Should I stay, or should I go now?
Should I stay, or should I go now?
If I go, there will be trouble
And if I stay, it will be double
So come on and let me know
Joe canceled his speech in Nevada due to Covid, didn’t he say he would drop out because of illness? Get well soon Joe.
I wonder if this has any relation to the “cold” he had during the debate.