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Russia Captured One Of Ukraine's Dutch APCs, Rode It Back Into Battle

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  jbb  •  one month ago  •  17 comments

By:   David Axe (Forbes)

Russia Captured One Of Ukraine's Dutch APCs, Rode It Back Into Battle
The Russians are increasingly desperate for armored vehicles.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


A destroyed YPR-765 in Russian service.

In 1977, a consortium of Dutch companies led by U.S. firm FMC began building the first of more than 2,000 YPR-765 tracked armored personnel carriers for the Dutch army.

Thirty-five years later, the Dutch retired the last of the 15-ton, 10-person APCs. And 10 years after that, The Netherlands pledged the first of 269 surplus YPR-765s to Ukraine.

In the 29 months since Russia widened its war on Ukraine, Russian troops have captured at least five intact YPR-765s. And on or shortly before Friday, the Russians rode one of their ex-Dutch, ex-Ukrainian APCs back into battle in eastern Ukraine's Donetsk Oblast.

Ukrainian forces hit the YPR-765, burning it and killing at least two Russians. A Ukrainian drone observed the gruesome aftermath.

Besides being an historical oddity with a storied past, the Russian-operated YPR-765 is yet another data point in one of the most important trends as Russia's wider war on Ukraine grinds into its third year: the Russians are running out of armored vehicles. It's not for no reason that they had to repurpose a captured Dutch vehicle from the late 1970s.

The Russian military went to war in Ukraine in early 2022 with around 11,000 infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers—the main vehicles for transporting infantry into battle and supporting them with gunfire.

On the drone-infested, artillery-peppered battlefields in Ukraine, IFVs and APCs are arguably more important than tanks. Which is why, early in the wider war, Carnegie Endowment analyst Michael Kofman warned that "the main Russian shortfall in armored vehicles is not in tanks, but in IFVs."

That shortfall has gotten worse and worse as the war has ground on. In 29 months, the Russians have lost—destroyed, damaged, abandoned or captured—no fewer than 6,500 IFVs and APCs.

To make the good the losses and equip new units, Russian industry has produced maybe a couple of thousand new vehicles—and also retrieved from long-term storage as many as 7,000 old vehicles.

But the storage sites are becoming increasingly bare. In December, analysts scoured satellite imagery and concluded that stocks of BTR-60/70/80 wheeled APCs are down 30 percent. Nearly 40 percent of BMP tracked IFVs are gone. Just 15 percent of MT-LB armored tractors are left.

Vehicle losses, and the withdrawal of old vehicles from storage, have accelerated since December. Worse for the Russians: many of the vehicles remaining in storage are so badly rusted after decades of exposure to rain and snow that they're useless as anything but scrap.

The result of this complicated math is that Russian regiments and brigades are running low on armored vehicles. They've compensated by using—and losing—more Chinese-made golf carts and Chinese and Belarusian motor bikes.

And if that one YPR-765 that showed up on the Russian side of the war in Donetsk is any indication, they're also compensating by rolling into battle in captured Ukrainian vehicles.


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JBB
Professor Principal
1  seeder  JBB    one month ago

And they all died! 

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
1.1  squiggy  replied to  JBB @1    one month ago

I don't get the exclamation mark. It really sucks to be a chess piece.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  squiggy @1.1    one month ago

MAGA are being Putin's Useful Idiots so technically they are Putin's pawns now. Since Speaker Mike Johnson and the gop have finally appropriated the funds Ukraine has been able to finally fight back. Russian soldiers should revolt against being used as pawns too!

 
 
 
squiggy
Junior Silent
1.1.2  squiggy  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    one month ago

Soldier. It sucks to be a soldier. None of them need you as a cheerleader for either side. Their goal is getting through the next five minutes. Nobody needs your political generalizations, either. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  squiggy @1.1.2    one month ago

"Nobody needs your political generalizations,  either.".

Some people have little or nothing more to offer.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  squiggy @1.1.2    one month ago

I am still free to cheerlead for Ukraine against Putin's Russia!

Am I not? The Free World is united. Ukraine is finally winning! 

America is winning. The Free World is winning. Who is losing?

original

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.3    one month ago

And vaguely insulting "Some People" comments are this deep...

original

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JBB @1.1.5    one month ago

If you believe that, then by all means feel free to flag my comment.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.1.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.1.5    one month ago

Why do you consider the ‘Muddy Waters’ moniker as insulting?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Senior Expert
1.1.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.3    one month ago
Some people have little or nothing more to offer.

Cut ‘n paste isn’t as easy for some as it seems.

 
 
 
Igknorantzruls
Freshman Quiet
1.1.9  Igknorantzruls  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.7    one month ago
Why do you consider the ‘Muddy Waters’ moniker as insulting?

for some there are 'muddy waters deep', as opposed to the depths that most will never sea, but I B leave U knew this, so for me, another swing, and a miss, cause igknorantzrulz is sometimes bliss, for those who believe they be rul;ing

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.10  seeder  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.1.7    one month ago

When comments have all the depth and clarity of mud puddles...

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.11  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.6    one month ago

How about instead of personal sniping actually contributing?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
1.1.12  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JBB @1.1.11    one month ago

Sorry, I'm not into silly meaningless memes.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.13  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.12    one month ago

Then what is your point regarding the article other than vaguely dissing me? So far you haven't addressed the topic at all 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.14  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.1.3    one month ago

Bullshit Ed! There were no memes at all until you came onto my seeded article to take a completely gratuitous off topic dig at me?

It is right up there ^ for everyone to see, for fuck sake, fella!

You asked for The Meme. You got The Meme. Do you get it?

We all see, "Some people have little or nothing more to offer".

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2  seeder  JBB    one month ago

MAGA believe this shit...original

 
 

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