A British Politician Shocks the Press by Saying a True Thing
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In Britain, an attempt is under way to transmute the impressive MP Kemi Badenoch into the second coming of Bad Enoch . Her crime? To have said aloud what ought to be perfectly obvious to all and sundry: that “not all cultures are equally valid.” “I am not talking about cuisine,” Badenoch told the BBC’s Laura Kuenssberg, “I am talking about customs.” Among the cultures that Badenoch listed as “less valid” were those in which women have fewer rights than men, those that celebrate child marriage, those that foster antisemitism, and those that persecute homosexuality. These, she concluded, ought not to be imported into the United Kingdom....
She was so obviously correct in her suppositions that it is tough to imagine how anyone could earnestly disagree. Within the very first minute of the conversation, Badenoch proposed that “it is extraordinary that people think that’s an unusual or controversial thing to say.” Indeed it is. Preemptively dispensing with the suggestion that her stance had anything to do with race — “I’m a black woman sitting here talking to you,” she noted pointedly — her case consisted of nothing more complex or contentious than that the “values” that made Britain great remain superior to most of their alternatives. Is there anyone in the West who is surprised to hear this claim?
That’s not a rhetorical question. Naturally, most conservatives would agree with Badenoch’s view — as, I suspect, would the vast majority of steadfastly apolitical normies. For us conservatives, such a view is foundational. Liberal democracy is superior to authoritarianism; capitalism is preferable to socialism; equality under the law is better than the rigorous observation of caste; and protection of individual rights is the bedrock of civilized life....
The historical case in support of Badenoch’s conceit is so strong as to defy refutation. Her comments came in the midst of a debate over immigration that exists only because the superior institutions of the Western world have made it a magnet for aspiring outsiders. Both of the core reasons that foreigners hope to move to the United States, Britain, Australia, and other free societies — those being the presence of remarkable economic opportunity and the protections accorded by the rule of law — are the product of historical choices that have borne luscious fruit. The country that Badenoch hopes one day to lead was instrumental in the abolition of slavery, the development of capitalism, the invention of modern industry, the protection of free speech, the evolution of democracy, and the establishment of written law. Britain’s history is not perfect, as none written by man will ever be, but it is sufficiently noble to have created a situation in which the daughter of Nigerian immigrants feels moved to protect and to lionize it on national TV — even when she knows that to do so will invite all the slings and arrows that the country’s ingrates are able to muster.
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Here's the entire interview
here's a representative response from "the Taliban is fine" left wing:
So, she is against today's gop's 'policies'
‘Not all cultures are equally valid,’ said Kemi Badenoch.
That is painting, rather throwing anything that may stick, with the broadest of brushes.
Are there individuals within every culture that act outside of their cultural mores in perpetrating hideous acts? Of course. Always has been the case and always will. And depending on where those acts occur determine the extent of the definition of justice meted out. Hopefully we still live in a society that will not castigate entire communities based on any individual heinous act and strives to adjudicate each case on the specific merits of the same.
That is if we collectively honor the system, which tragically, is equally under attack in our hyperpartisanism. Otherwise her comments, however absurd, take hold.
To our detriment.
Sure. But this is about the norms themselves.
hmmm.. From the article this woman doesn't want the worst of MAGA Populism to be imported into the UK.
“But this is about the norms themselves.”
Norms defined by just whom…. prey [sic] tale [sic]?
That's fine. It's not really the point though, is it?
Are cultures that throw woman on the their husband's funeral pyle better, the same or worse than those that don't?
Are cultures that permit slavery better, the same or worse than those that don't?
The point is who gets to be the one to set those 'norms'?
You can't decide if a culture that practices slavery is better than one that doesn't?
Normally when one ideology becomes used to something, it is hard to get rid of it.
Just what is your fucking point now? Are their cultures that practice slavery today trying to get into the UK?
The point of the article. All cultures are not equal. Is it that hard to understand? Cultural relativism, so popular on the left, is idiotic.
All cultures were not equal in the 19th century , when millions of people from lesser cultures such as Ireland and Italy migrated to America. The difference then and now is those people were white, or close enough to it.
No culture being imported to America could ever be strong enough or persuasive enough to convince Americans to go over to their ways, but that is not the nativists fear. The nativists fear that America will become majority minority (that whites will become a minority population when compared with all non whites. )
What does not equal mean and who gets to decide?
Is the culture that celebrates Christmas better or less than the culture that celebrates Hanukkah? Is the culture that cooks with baharat greater or less than one that cooks with cracked pepper? Is the culture that insists women wear a burka better or less than the culture that insists in daddy/daughter dances?
What are YOUR defining characteristics of a greater culture? What are YOUR defining characteristics of a lesser culture?
Are all cultures equal now?
You need help deciding that slavery is bad and that cultures that practice slavery are worse than those that don't? Isn't the answer obvious? What's the debate?
I don't but go ahead and avoid my questions and tell me why you think that's more relevant than the questions I asked?
Once you answer whether some cultures are better than others, I'll answer your deflections.
Why are you obsessed with finding ways to justify bigotry?
Please tell me that you are not afraid that throwing women on their husbands funeral pyres will become a "thing" in the United States .
America transforms other cultures, it doesnt submit to them.
Why can't you answer a simple question?
Why can't you just say all cultures are't equal?
All I can say is all cultures are relevant in their own way.............and need to stay that way. History has shown, and we see examples of it all over the world even today, that multiculturalism DOES NOT WORK.
Why can't you admit trying to justify reasons for hate and bigotry?
Lol. Thanks for proving the author's point. Progressivism is such a poisonous ideology that's it believers can't admit the most obvious of truths.
Its not something that I worry about in the United States.
I'm not a progressive populist any more than I'm an alt+right MAGA populist. As I have claimed here for years, populism is a problem no matter which side it comes from, so thanks for proving my point that populism is stupid and it's believers can't admit they are part of the problem.
Your beliefs prevent you from simply speaking an obvious truth, yet you call those who can stupid. Might want to look up the definition of stupid.
that has nothing to do with the question.
A textbook example of irony...
I did, I found this:
Well, she's not wrong.
I understand where she's coming from though saying to someone "Hey, if you're a Muslim, you're not welcome here because your religion teaches that women should have fewer rights than men, you foster antisemitism, have child marriage and persecute homosexuals" then you're discriminating based on the religion. And let's face it, there are many evangelical Christians who push female headship rules where women don't have the same rights in their church or in the home than men do and they also persecute homosexuality, there are Mormon sects that still push child marriage or polygamy and also persecute homosexuality.
So why not simply say that those things, "women having fewer rights than men" "child marriage" "antisemitism" and "persecuting homosexuality" are not allowed, but people aren't being rejected outright based on their religion if they themselves haven't done any of those things.
The discriminatory behavior is what shouldn't be imported. If they simply banned all religions that discriminate then not even Christians from America would be able to move there. Hate the sin, not the sinner as they say.
She called out "women having fewer rights than men" "child marriage" "antisemitism" and "persecuting homosexuality". Now that can cover a wide variety of demographics. The only place where specific demographic is mentioned is your post. There are antisemites right here in the US. The lower IQ people among us call some of them "Pro Palestinian Protestors". As you mention, women don't have the same rights as men in their churches. Look at how many churches persecute homosexuality in the US.
So instead of making it about Muslims we open our eyes and take a good look around.
Clearly you did not read what I said if that was your take away. Again, as I said "let's face it, there are many evangelical Christians who push female headship rules where women don't have the same rights in their church or in the home than men do and they also persecute homosexuality, there are Mormon sects that still push child marriage or polygamy and also persecute homosexuality." "If they simply banned all religions that discriminate then not even Christians from America would be able to move there."
As for the antisemites, the rightwing conservatives count MANY of them as fellow Republican voters and defenders of confederate monuments as shown in Charlottesville where the tiki torch white nationalists and wannabe Nazi's were chanting "Jews will not replace us!". Ignoring those folk among your ranks and trying to claim others who support a two State solution and believe that bombing innocent women and children is wrong no matter what nationality and calling that "antisemitism" is just pure ignorance.
If you read my FULL comment you would see that I did read what you said and responded. I, nor Badenoch, made it about a specific demographic as you did and continue to do.
And why bring in nonsense that hasn't existed for a very long time? What point does that serve?
You want to play games, have fun with that. Don't include me.
What to dislike about this article? Certainly not the subject Kemi Badenoch. The author and his overt partisan praise is a better choice.
Although, the lady does have a penchant to engage in X fisticuffs: