Harris echoes debunked claim about Georgia abortion limits causing woman's death despite pushback from doctors
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Two Georgia doctors, one a congressman and the other a state legislator, weigh in on the tragic case of Amber Nicole Thurman and media claims that state laws regulating abortion led to her death.
Vice President Kamala Harris repeated the left's claim Sunday that a woman in Georgia died due to delayed care as a result of the state's abortion limits, despite doctors previously denouncing the narrative as false.
During an interview on the raunchy and often-sexually explicit "Call Her Daddy" podcast, host Alex Cooper asked Harris about the impact of the overturning of Roe v. Wade, blaming the death of Amber Nicole Thurman on the Supreme Court ruling and the state's abortion limits after she received a chemically induced abortion in 2022.
"So, Amber was a young mother of a six-year-old son. She was a medical assistant who was so excited because she was just getting on her feet to be independent. She got her own apartment in a gated community with a pool that her son could play in. She got accepted to nursing school," Harris told listeners.
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"She was, as described by her family, so excited and so ambitious, and she had plans. Then she found out she was pregnant, and she didn't want to go through with her pregnancy. And she was living in Georgia, and she couldn't receive care there because she was past six weeks. And so she ended up going to another state, and…she couldn't get there on time. And because the other state had been so overwhelmed by all these women coming from all these southern states who couldn't get treatment in their own state, her window for her appointment had closed and instead of having a surgical procedure, she had medication and basically went back home and then had some complications and went to the hospital because she was bleeding."
"And they delayed 20 hours before they treated her," Harris continued, suggesting that Georgia's laws prevented her from receiving lifesaving care.
Her remark comes after ProPublica published an article last month blaming the deaths of two Georgia women, Thurman and Candi Miller, on the overturning of Roe v. Wade and the state's new abortion limits.
Harris and other members of the Democratic Party, including her running mate Tim Walz, have cited their deaths as evidence for the need to expand abortion access after the Supreme Court's 2022 ruling on Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization.
"Here's the thing that's so messed up about this," Harris told Cooper. "Some of these people will say whoa, but I do believe in exceptions, I believe that there should be an exception in terms of the life of the mother. You know what that means in practical terms? She's almost dead before you decide to give her care. What, so we're going to have public health policy that says a doctor, a medical professional, waits until you're at death's door before they gives you care. That's outrageous…where is the humanity?"
Georgia's heartbeat law states that "no abortion shall be performed if the unborn child has a detectable human heartbeat except in the event of a medical emergency or medically futile pregnancy."
OB-GYNs have criticized the Amber Thurman narrative as a misleading story that is being pushed by the media and Democrats.
Charlotte Lozier Institute Vice President and Director of Medical Affairs Dr. Ingrid Skop called out the "fearmongering" and "lies" of the media that are hurting women who don't understand new abortion laws.
"I was not surprised to see this pro-abortion media try to point the blame at Georgia's pro-life laws, but, in fact, Georgia's laws allow doctors to intervene to save the life of the woman," Skop recently told Fox News Digital.
"I think the focus of the Democratic Party upon abortion as an issue is only because the American people do not understand the laws. Many times, women are hurt by abortions. It is not necessary for women to live their best life. And, of course, it's the fearmongering and lies that have led us to this place where we are today, where people even think there would be a reason to point at the law."
U.S. Rep. Rich McCormick, R-Ga., and state Rep. Mark Newton have also come out to say they don't believe Georgia laws had anything to do with Thurman's death, alleging it was caused by complications from abortion pills because doctors may have waited too long to intercede.
"We never deny a woman an abortion because it's going to harm her in some way. She will always be protected," McCormick said in a recent interview with Fox News Digital.
"You have every right to an abortion, even with that heartbeat law," he continued. "So, let's make that very clear right now. When they say there's no exceptions, there's never any law in any state where there's no exceptions. That doesn't exist. That's simply not the way it works. The mother's life is always protected. With that said, it doesn't mean it's easy to get an abortion just because you have a complication or because something goes wrong."
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Dr. Christina Francis, CEO of the American Association of Pro-Life Obstetricians and Gynecologists (AAPLOG), made similar comments on "Fox & Friends" last month.
"We are seeing the direct results of spreading lies and misinformation about these laws. Women are being harmed by that because they are delaying in seeking care. And so I think it's really important, no matter where somebody stands on the issue of abortion, we should all want women to have accurate information so that they seek care immediately if they're experiencing complications from things like these high-risk abortion drugs," Francis said.
ProPublica previously defended their story in a statement to Fox News Digital, saying, "We stand by our reporting. The state's committee of more than 30 experts concluded that the deaths of Amber Thurman and Candi Miller were preventable, a newsworthy finding. Our ongoing reporting is illuminating the challenges doctors face in caring for patients with pregnancy complications in states with restricted access to abortion."
The Harris campaign did not respond to Fox News Digital's request for comment.
Yael Halon is a reporter for Fox News Digital. Story tips can be sent to yael.halon@fox.com.
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U.S. Rep. Rich McCormick, R-Ga., and state Rep. Mark Newton have also come out to say they don't believe Georgia laws had anything to do with Thurman's death, alleging it was caused by complications from abortion pills because doctors may have waited too long to intercede.
"We never deny a woman an abortion because it's going to harm her in some way. She will always be protected," McCormick said in a recent interview with Fox News Digital.
"You have every right to an abortion, even with that heartbeat law," he continued. "So, let's make that very clear right now. When they say there's no exceptions, there's never any law in any state where there's no exceptions. That doesn't exist. That's simply not the way it works. The mother's life is always protected. With that said, it doesn't mean it's easy to get an abortion just because you have a complication or because something goes wrong."
Another bold face lie by Harris and Walz.
Nope. Just a couple of Republican lawmakers who WEREN'T THERE and have ZERO fucking evidence of what actually occurred are claiming that it that's not the way the law was supposed to work. The fact is, as the article above notes, "The state's committee of more than 30 experts concluded that the deaths of Amber Thurman and Candi Miller were preventable".
Conservatives are trying to blame the abortion pill because this woman had complications after taking it and the FACT is that the hospital DID delay care because of their perception of the Georgia law whether the law says they could have helped or not. Because of the uncertainty in the law, they delayed care, and no amount of Republican law makers claiming that's not the way the law was supposed to work is going to change that. Harris was right, and conservative Republicans are wrong, again.
The family says the law has nothing to do with it.
"The state's committee of more than 30 experts concluded that the deaths of Amber Thurman and Candi Miller were preventable".
So what? All that means is they believe the doctors were negligent in treating her. That's it. Hundreds of thousands of people die due to medical negligence each year.
re trying to blame the abortion pill because this woman had complications after taking it
It did kill her.
e hospital DID delay care because of their perception of the Georgia law whether the law says they could have helped or not.
You are making that up.
Nope, repeating what has been said since her death was announced.
Thurman’s family said doctors kept them in the dark about her condition as they waited at the hospital. Her mother, Shanette Williams, said she would have sought medical care elsewhere if she had known doctors were waiting to perform a D&C.
“We would have done anything had we known, but we didn’t,” Williams said. “We didn't have the opportunity to know.
Lawsuit: Doctors to blame for Amber Thurman's death (ny1.com)
We shall see what defense the doctors take during the lawsuit, for now they are staying silent no doubt on advice from council. The fact remains, they delayed care for some reason, and many believe that delay was likely due to the uncertainty of the new anti-abortion law.
Great. Then it should be easy to show where the Committee said the doctors didn't perform the D&C because they didn't understand the law.
Why don't you show us?
Again, they are claiming negligence, which happens hundreds of thousands of times a year in hospitals.
Their own attorney said the law had nothing to do with it.
There is zero evidence , the hopes and wishes of Abortion supporters doesn't count as actual evidence, that the doctors didn't perform the D&C because they were confused about the law. Harris, and whoever else says different, is lying.
The abortion lobby needs a death they can capitalize on for political purposes. This case, with a made up reason for a patient's death a week after her legal abortion, was the best they could do.
From the same article. Why was there a 20 hour delay?
The McClatchy Report once stood by their reporting too, against all the facts to the contrary, when they claimed than Micheal Cohen was in Prague.
We had a member here once who stood by the story long after it was debunked.
We have that happen a lot here.
Are you telling us you will go on the record right now standing by ProPublica?
Who knows? Certainly not pro-publica as they admit in their article.
Are you speaking as the champion of that particular foible?
No I will split that baby in half like Solomon. The doctors will probably be sued for malpractice and settle with the
families as the lesser of two evils and keep their licenses and livelihoods intact while using "seeking legal
advise" as the reason for the delays. Thurman and Miller are just two more victims of a callous system which
sees 251,000 deaths a year from malpractice.
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The family itself says the law had nothing to do with her death. How could they? She got the abortion she wanted.
Harris echoes debunked claim about Georgia abortion limits
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Charlotte Lozier Institute Vice President and Director of Medical Affairs Dr. Ingrid Skop called out the "fearmongering" and "lies" of the media that are hurting women who don't understand new abortion laws.
And just why should one believe anything coming from Dr, Skop?
Can any democrat answer why the Harris campaign has put her out for interviews???
The idea was to sprint to Nov 5th without much exposure.
What changed?
trump's world leader version of pathetic cowardice. he's afraid of a second debate with a black woman and he's afraid of being fact checked by 60 minutes. the heritage foundation and the federalists know all they have to do is get that empty suit and skull over the finish line and it won't matter what happens to him afterwards. they know trump hurts their cause whenever his jaw operates and it's best if he'll stfu.
remember when trump/maga were complaining that harris was too afraid and too stupid to make media appearances? so long ago. she's going to where the other intelligent voters are, those that want to be informed from their preferred sources, outside of what was once considered the norm. the flow of invention, acceptance, and adaptation to the new, modern, and progressive, you know, being american ...
no need for the harris to waste precious campaign time in media spaces where she will never find votes. counterproductive.
And once they see her "performances", it may just backfire on her.
I see a likeable, normal person with many years of government service, still not comfortable with all of the attention paired with a seasoned legislator and governor.
vs
An attention seeking, power seeking angry old man who seems bent on retribution and who's lies get whackier by the day paired with a slick empty suit junior Senator who seems to have had a new job every two years, none of them very successful, who was a rather vile Never Trumper, until he wasn't.
I can easily imagine a President Walz at some point if necessary.
What I fear Is a President Trump or worse, a President Vance
Hate to break it to you, the President of the United States is not a learn on the job position.
Oh yeah......Call her Daddy Howard Stern, The View, you may want to rethink that comment!
Of course it is. One of the candidates had zero governmental experience in 2016 and his 4-year tenure was highlighted by an excessive amount of Team A, Team B and Cabinet turnover, years of tradition, protocol and even long standing treaties broken because he had no experience and didn't care.
His current VP candidate elected Senator is one his 5th job in 10 years and as a Senator has zero accomplishments other than flipping from a Never Trumper in 2020 to an ass kisser in 2023.
A total of not even six years governmental Service
Walz has that much as a governor, ten more years as a US House Rep
Harris, a lawyer, spent 27 years in law enforcement, as a DA, an AG, A state AG, then 4 years as the Senator from California before becoming the VP of the US with a front row seat to the Presidency.
A total of 53 or 54 years of experience in different government capacities, not including Walz military years.
Read the memoirs of Bush and Obama, even in their second four years, they were still leaning on the job.
Silly goose.